On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 07:52:12PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Apr 03, Michael Stone <mst...@debian.org> wrote:
The issue isn't making a change, the issue is what change is the
right thing to do. IMO, dropping utmp without any kind of a
transition or deprecation period is the wrong thing to do. Hence
this thread.
I think it's a bit late now to disagree with the plan implemented last
year by multiple maintainers.
Except, of course, for the primary consumer of utmp...
I'm the one who gets the complaints that who isn't working right, and
there isn't a solution to that problem, since the systemd facility
doesn't provide the same information. I'd argue that a lot of people
didn't realize how screwed up things were going to be, because the
change didn't impact normal use until after a reboot. So people have
slowly been finding out over time that a decades-old interface is no
longer available, and the answer "well, we decided to drop it" falls a
little flat since there seems to be no actual reason to not just support
both mechanisms.
