Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

Marc Haber left as an exercise for the reader: > (1) > Should Debian allow UTF-8 user names in the first place or should we > restrict names for regular users to some us-ascii near set as well? (I > think yes, we should) I feel strongly yes, despite POSIX admonitions (quoted elsewhere in this thre

Re: Program request.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 09:19:41PM -0800, Mike Coulombe wrote: > Hi. Would it be possible to get dosemu added to Debian? For the record, dosemu was removed from Debian unstable in 2020, after 3 years not in testing. There is dosemu2 but it doesn't look like anybody tried to package that (it's als

Re: Program request.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 10:11:05PM -0800, Mike Coulombe wrote: > On 11/22/2024 9:50 PM, Hank Knox wrote: > > On 11/23/24 00:19, Mike Coulombe wrote: > > > Hi. Would it be possible to get dosemu added to Debian? A lot of > > > visually impaired people myself included still use dos for various > > >

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

Hi, Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2024-11-23 00:09:41) > You can have upstream git and tarballs at the same time, and even have DFSG > cleanup take place and git show you exactly the differences of all the > versions. I'm interested in the DFSG cleanup. How can this be done while having an upstream gi

Re: Program request.

Thanks Hank. I tried dosbox-x a few days ago and while it loads, it doesn't apear to work with Orca or Speakup. Yeah, I think dosemu-2 was the last version, but I thought it might still work. Anyway, thanks so much for looking at it and for the suggestion. Dosbox would be perfect is it worked w

Re: Program request.

I took a quick look at the Dosemu website. It hasn't been updated since 2012. I didn't look at the source so I don't know how much effort it would take to make a Debian package. There is a Debian package that might already do what you are looking for: DOSBox-X (https://dosbox-x.com/). Hope t

Program request.

Hi. Would it be possible to get dosemu added to Debian? A lot of visually impaired people myself included still use dos for various programs and to play the old text based games. Dosemu use to work with Speakup when I tried it several years ago and made an easy way to get dos support in Linux.

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

* Jonas Smedegaard [241122 18:01]: > > All release architectures support Rust. We should not accept > > release architectures without Rust support. > > > > A minor set of ports architectures does not have Rust support > > yet. > > Rust is unsupported on i386 and patched to silently assume i686

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 10:01:24PM +0100, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > On 22/11/24 20:42, Étienne Mollier wrote: > > I tried to consider what it would take to have an émollier or an > > Émollier login, and there is one little blocker : I may have to > > login from environments or keyboards lacking the

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 01:53:11PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 11:52:38PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Nov 21, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > > > I've just finished more or less, adjusting the APT test suite > > > to test gpgv-sq. I plan to upload APT that t

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

Hi! > > I am contemplating if I should also make videos on Debian packaging best > > practices, or have start a new Matrix channel specifically to help > > maintainers setup their git repositories correctly and find the optimal > > git-buildpackage commands for each thing they want to do. > > I'd

Re: [Summary]: Supporting alternative zlib implementations

On 2024-11-22 12:29:51 [+0100], Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! Hi, … > WIP package at . just built that. … > * To consider a switch we'd need to do a mass rebuild of the > archive. Ideally running autopkgtests and similar to exercise th

Bug#1088084: ITP: golang-github-notaryproject-notation-core-go -- Contains support for Notary Project signature envelope, and format specific implementation

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Reinhard Tartler * Package name: golang-github-notaryproject-notation-core-go Version : 1.1.0-1 Upstream Author : Notary Project * URL : https://github.com/notaryproject/notation-core-go * License : Apache-2.0 Programmi

Re: Strategy advice

I was packaging something this week and noticed they hadn't tagged any release on git, despite having releases. I asked them to tag it because it'd be easier for me and they did it within a couple of hours. Often in my experience they're happy to have patches too of they make sense outside of Deb

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

On 22/11/24 20:42, Étienne Mollier wrote: I tried to consider what it would take to have an émollier or an Émollier login, and there is one little blocker : I may have to login from environments or keyboards lacking the necessary i18n and l10n capabilities to transcribe the 'e' acute, let alone t

Re: Strategy advice

It involves more social issues than technical issues that relies on experience, on a per-upstream basis, which is never something that can be effectively documented. I've personally encountered upstreams super happy to hear the bits about inclusion in Debian, as well as improvement suggestions

Re: Kernel 6.13 & choice Init or SystemD for the user on Debian 13

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 02:29:31AM +0100, phil995511 - wrote: > Devuan offers users several init managers to choose from, this is what > Debian should have offered since Debian 8 in 2015... you should never have > argued about this and made the Debian project lose developers who preferred > to stay

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

> 1. The GnuPG upstream forked the OpenPGP standard into his own >thing called LibrePGP, and GnuPG 2.4 implements that new thing >and is by default incompatible with other OpenPGP implementations. Which kind of default incompatibility is implemented in GnuPG 2.4? kind regards Frank

Re: Strategy advice

On Friday, November 22, 2024 12:53:11 PM MST Jérémy Lal wrote: > I'm still trying to understand if it's a good idea to contact upstream > authors and tell them their software is being worked on to be included in > Debian, or not. > My own experience has been that most upstream projects don't care a

Strategy advice

I'm still trying to understand if it's a good idea to contact upstream authors and tell them their software is being worked on to be included in Debian, or not. My own experience has been that most upstream projects don't care about Debian. Some do, of course. But many don't. With my experience, I

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

Hi Marc, Marc Haber, on 2024-11-22: > I might be naive here , but I don't have much experience with non-ascii > names since I have the privilege of being fluent in two languages that > use the latin alphabet. I am not sure whether I am the intended audience here, because my name is almost Ascii b

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

On Nov 22, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > That's correct due to some overlinking in the Rust toolchain, > there needs to be some more crate splitting to make it smaller. Do you have reasons to believe that this is going to happen in time for the next release? The size increase is not trivial. :-(

Re: Kernel 6.13 & choice Init or SystemD for the user on Debian 13

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 02:29:31AM +0100, phil995511 - wrote: > Devuan offers users several init managers to choose from, this is what > Debian should have offered since Debian 8 in 2015... you should never have > argued about this and made the Debian project lose developers who preferred > to stay

Bug#1088071: ITP: notification-position-reloaded -- Configure the place where notifications are shown

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sudip Mukherjee X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, sudipm.mukher...@gmail.com * Package name: notification-position-reloaded Version : git commit sha will be used, which currently is at '720f7e2ec630 ("gnome 47 support")' Upstream

Re: Kernel 6.13 & choice Init or SystemD for the user on Debian 13

phil995511 - writes: you say using backports is for advanced users yet you want users to be able to choose their init systems? that's backwards. most users do not care about the init system they use. adding backports and installing a new kernel is not actually that difficult to do, and is easier

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 09:16:20PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > I've just finished more or less, adjusting the APT test suite > to test gpgv-sq. I plan to upload APT that tests gpgv-sq > tomorrow. This ensures full compatibility between apt and > gpgv-sq going forward. 2.9.14 in unstable co

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

Quoting Julian Andres Klode (2024-11-22 17:36:17) > On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 04:14:59PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > On 2024-11-21, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > As for ports without gpgv-sq, this does not affect them, > > > they can be served by the gpgv alternative. Once a gpgv-sq > > > is a

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 04:14:59PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2024-11-21, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > As for ports without gpgv-sq, this does not affect them, > > they can be served by the gpgv alternative. Once a gpgv-sq > > is available, it's important to note that no migration happens >

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 03:29:24PM +0100, Timo Röhling wrote: > I have no experience with bidirectional attacks, but browsers mitigate > homograph attacks in IDNs by disallowing mixed alphabets such as cyrillic > and latin letters in the same name. That seems to be a reasonable > restriction for us

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

On 2024-11-21, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > As for ports without gpgv-sq, this does not affect them, > they can be served by the gpgv alternative. Once a gpgv-sq > is available, it's important to note that no migration happens To me it looks like we will sligthly grow the base system and have dif

Bug#1088048: ITP: python-scikit-cuda -- Scikit with CUDA support

Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Python Team Owner: Roland Mas Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-scikit-cuda Version : 0.5.1 Upstream Contact: Lev E. Givon * URL : https://github.com/lebedov/scikit-cuda * License : BS

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 5:49 AM Guillem Jover wrote: > > Hi! > > On Tue, 2024-11-05 at 17:35:59 -0600, Aaron Rainbolt wrote: > > With all this in mind, I'd like to call some attention to a feature > > request made by Patrick Schleizer some time ago, whom I've copied on > > this email. The feature

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

Hi, * Richard Lewis [2024-11-21 * 22:05]: would allowing utf-8 enable some of the abuse described at https://lwn.net/Articles/874951/ ? as usernames appear in logs and other output (and are passed to all sorts of commands), it seems a bad idea to be too permissive or to change from historic p

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 09:16:20PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > I've just finished more or less, adjusting the APT test suite > to test gpgv-sq. I plan to upload APT that tests gpgv-sq > tomorrow. This ensures full compatibility between apt and > gpgv-sq going forward. > > After that migrat

Re: [Summary]: Supporting alternative zlib implementations

On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 at 12:29:51 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > depending on the outcome of this discussion, I think other > (probably better) options would be to perhaps name the compat packages > something like libz-ng-compat*, or drop them completely? You might find the history of the sdl12-compa

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 11:52:38PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Nov 21, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > I've just finished more or less, adjusting the APT test suite > > to test gpgv-sq. I plan to upload APT that tests gpgv-sq > > tomorrow. This ensures full compatibility between apt and > >

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 06:25:11PM -0700, Antonio Russo wrote: > On 11/21/24 15:19, Iustin Pop wrote: > > I'm not happy with the heavyness that one gets via gpg just for > > verifying signatures, so I'd be all for a lighter-weight solution. > > gpgv is lighter weight than gpgv-sq. Surprisingly, i

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 11:55:10AM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > On 2024-11-21 Julian Andres Klode wrote: > [...] > >An optimal mechanism would instea > [...] > > Something seems to be missing here. > > cu Andreas Apologies, I started that thought and didn't quite finish it and forgot it

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

Quoting Simon Josefsson (2024-11-22 12:54:02) > Doesn't 'gbp import-orig --uscan' work if you have a watch-file like this: > > version=4 > opts="mode=git, pgpmode=none,\ > dversionmangle=s/\+ds\d*$//,repacksuffix=+ds" \ > https://github.com/withfig/autocomplete-tools.git \ > HEAD debian

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues writes: > Quoting Simon Josefsson (2024-11-22 12:18:36) >> > I like to read of other people's workflows but then I often do not see how >> > their workflows can possibly fit my packages. There seem to be many people >> > who have the upstream git as part of their

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

Hi! On Tue, 2024-11-05 at 17:35:59 -0600, Aaron Rainbolt wrote: > With all this in mind, I'd like to call some attention to a feature > request made by Patrick Schleizer some time ago, whom I've copied on > this email. The feature request suggests the addition of a new field to > Debian's binary d

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

Quoting Simon Josefsson (2024-11-22 12:18:36) > > I like to read of other people's workflows but then I often do not see how > > their workflows can possibly fit my packages. There seem to be many people > > who have the upstream git as part of their packaging git. I'm happy that > > works for them

Re: DEP-0, DEP0 or DEP 0?

Hi! On Thu, 2024-11-14 at 00:48:18 -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > I am the kind of person that gets hugely annoyed by things like this. > Is anyone else feeling it? >· > Can we agree on calling Debian Enhancement Proposals DEP-N with a dash? I'm also all for consistency, although I'm in general

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

Otto Kekäläinen writes: >> in addition to the above: gbp is great if it works, if it doesn't I can >> start to learn to debug a complex system, while on the contrary, if I use >> git and debuild/pbuilder/sbuild manually all the time, I know those tools, >> they are rather easy to debug etc. > > P

[Summary]: Supporting alternative zlib implementations

Hi! [ I'll try to summarize the current discussion and status, what might be blockers, and a potential incremental way forward. ] On Wed, 2024-09-25 at 10:48:50 +0200, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 05:45:49PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 15:58:10 +0200, Ma

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues writes: > I like to read of other people's workflows but then I often do not see > how their workflows can possibly fit my packages. There seem to be > many people who have the upstream git as part of their packaging > git. I'm happy that works for them but I don'

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

On 2024-11-21 Julian Andres Klode wrote: [...] >An optimal mechanism would instea [...] Something seems to be missing here. cu Andreas -- `What a good friend you are to him, Dr. Maturin. His other friends are so grateful to you.' `I sew his ears on from time to time, sure'

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

[Reducing the list to debian-devel. I have omitted to set Reply-To and apologize for that] On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 11:26:48PM +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: > On 2024-11-21 18:45:06, Marc Haber wrote: > > Should Debian allow UTF-8 user names in the first place or should we > > restrict names for regular

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 10:05:49PM +, Richard Lewis wrote: > Marc Haber writes: > > > > For adduser's next release, I would like to discuss the following > > things: > > > > (1) > > Should Debian allow UTF-8 user names in the first place or should we > > restrict names for regular users to s