Hi Ansgar,
On 7/11/24 06:15, Ansgar 🙀 wrote:
It is supported *now*, but the roadmap is unclear -- that support could
be discontinued at any moment, and it would not be the first time a
feature Debian relied on was removed.
I understand your fears about the uncertainty of future developments.
On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:15:24 +0200, Ansgar ? wrote:
>On Thu, 2024-07-11 at 05:14 +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
>> It is supported *now*, but the roadmap is unclear -- that support could
>> be discontinued at any moment, and it would not be the first time a
>> feature Debian relied on was removed.
On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:36:19 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz
wrote:
>yes please, I would love to see Debian switch from ifupdown to
>NM/networkd. ifupdown was the perfect tool for the time it was created
>in, but things have advanced, and imho now is a good time to switch.
I agree. Nothing has yet reached t
On 2024-07-07 15:56, Daniel Gröber wrote:
From where I'm sitting ifupdown2 is completely out of the question as *the*
Debian ifupdown since it doesn't even support *basic* IPv6 use-cases like
DHCPv6. Upstream community seems nonexistant since this is software by a
corp for a corp where communit
On 7/10/24 20:03, Michael Biebl wrote:
Since there is a lot of support for this idea, the next logical step as
smcv said, would be to make d-i/netcfg networkd aware. At the beginning,
this could be opt-in (for testing purposes) and we could make it the
default later on.
Any takers?
If someo
On 7/9/24 12:45, Simon McVittie wrote:
To some extent, we are already there: for new laptop/desktop
installations, NM is already the default (certainly true for GNOME,
and hopefully for most/all of the other tasksel-supported desktops).
Right.
For new server/embedded installations, I think ne
On 7/9/24 13:31, Simon McVittie wrote:
I would tend to count "execute arbitrary user-supplied code on
networking changes" as a specialized requirement - by definition,
for this to happen, someone (the sysadmin) needs to have written and
installed the user-supplied hook script. If the sysadmin has
Hi Simon,
On Thu, 2024-07-11 at 05:14 +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
> It is supported *now*, but the roadmap is unclear -- that support could
> be discontinued at any moment, and it would not be the first time a
> feature Debian relied on was removed.
I understand your fears about the uncertainty
Hi,
On 7/10/24 05:36, Marco d'Itri wrote:
That's my question, essentially: is this an interface with full support from
upstream, or something that may change in an incompatible way later that
will require us to deploy additional infrastructure to support?
Multiple people, one of the systemd
Am 10.07.24 um 18:36 schrieb Bernd Zeimetz:
On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 11:45 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 at 10:57:39 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
   Agreed: either it's drop-in compatible or we may as well switch
the
   default to NM and/or systemd-networkd.
Well, here's
On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 11:45 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 at 10:57:39 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> > Â Â Â Agreed: either it's drop-in compatible or we may as well switch
> > the
> > Â Â Â default to NM and/or systemd-networkd.
> >
> > Well, here's a heretical thought: why don
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