Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Felipe Sateler writes: > I suspect you are setting an impossibly high bar for determining the > license of a work. We can (and do) rely on upstream telling us the truth > when they say the work is of a certain license, and that contributions > from third parties have been accepted under that lice

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 15:41:00 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Felipe Sateler (2017-12-19 14:20:42) >> Sometimes the license requires listing the copyright holders. In those >> cases, the list of holders must be present in the copyright file. In >> the rest, there is no need to list them. O

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 06:44:54PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > What if the author is anonymous then? > Then who granted the license? the anonymous author. this of course can lead to certain problems, _maybe_. > If you buy the Eiffel tower from someone anonymously, then you are in > troub

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Thomas Goirand (2017-12-19 17:23:08) > On 12/19/2017 03:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Quoting Felipe Sateler (2017-12-19 14:20:42) >>> Sometimes the license requires listing the copyright holders. In >>> those cases, the list of holders must be present in the copyright >>> file. In th

Re: [Pkg-citadel-devel] Bug#851086: Bug#859789: RFH: citadel/webcit

2017-12-19 Thread Art Cancro
On 2017-12-12 4:00 AM, Michael Meskes wrote: Actually the problem is I run very low on time right now. Let me make two things clear, I really like citadel despite not using it and upstream (all of them, not just Art) is very nice to work with and more than willing to help. My problem is a very

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-12-19 15:17:56 +0100 (+0100), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > I wish you good luck with that. I attempted *twice* to have the > copyright holder information attached to each upstream project on > upstream OpenStack, and twice this was a failure. Maybe I'm not good > with communication, but I

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/19/2017 03:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Felipe Sateler (2017-12-19 14:20:42) >> Sometimes the license requires listing the copyright holders. In those >> cases, the list of holders must be present in the copyright file. In >> the rest, there is no need to list them. Only the lic

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Felipe Sateler (2017-12-19 14:20:42) > Sometimes the license requires listing the copyright holders. In those > cases, the list of holders must be present in the copyright file. In > the rest, there is no need to list them. Only the license matters. > > .oO( should the copyright file be r

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/19/2017 02:20 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: > Sometimes the license requires listing the copyright holders. In those > cases, the list of holders must be present in the copyright file. In the > rest, there is no need to list them. Only the license matters. > > .oO( should the copyright file be

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/19/2017 10:47 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > We (the Debian Project) don't have to accept being the *only* ones > shouldering this burden. Large upstream organisations have large > shoulders. > > Surely a team responsible for a large code base also must – to avoid > self-delusion – confront the nee

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Ian Jackson (2017-12-19 14:06:14) > Ben Finney writes ("Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?"): > > Surely a team responsible for a large code base also must – to avoid > > self-delusion – confront the need to know, with confidence that comes > > >from standard, verifiable docum

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:47:01 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Marc Haber writes: > >> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 20:01:12 -0500, Jeremy Bicha >> wrote: >> >I was forced to spend a few hours doing a thorough copyright file >> >earlier this year for mozjs52 which is simply the JavaScript engine >> >from Firef

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Finney writes ("Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?"): > Surely a team responsible for a large code base also must – to avoid > self-delusion – confront the need to know, with confidence that comes > >from standard, verifiable documentation, the provenance of works from > which the

Re: Bug#884641: ITP: lwip -- small implementation of the TCP/IP protocol suite

2017-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on mar. 19 déc. 2017 10:37:15 +0100, wrote: > The description should mention which version of IP is supported. While > IPv6 support has been mandatory for a decade, IPv6 not being mentioned > suggests (at least to me) that only the legacy IPv4 protocol is > supported. As you say, IPv6

Bug#884765: ITP: drupal-init-tools -- helper commands to create and install new Drupal projects

2017-12-19 Thread Antonio Ospite
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Antonio Ospite * Package name: drupal-init-tools Version : 0.1.1 Upstream Author : Antonio Ospite * URL : https://git.ao2.it/drupal-init-tools.git/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: Bash Description : helper c

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Ben Finney
Marc Haber writes: > On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 20:01:12 -0500, Jeremy Bicha > wrote: > >I was forced to spend a few hours doing a thorough copyright file > >earlier this year for mozjs52 which is simply the JavaScript engine > >from Firefox 52 ESR. I first tried copying the Firefox 52 ESR's > >copyrig

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 20:01:12 -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: >On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 12/07/2017 05:57 AM, Steve Robbins wrote: >>> So: if I changed the boost copyright file to say "Copyright: $Dates Boost >>> authors", would it pass ftp-master scrutiny? >> >> No,

Re: Bug#884641: ITP: lwip -- small implementation of the TCP/IP protocol suite

2017-12-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 00:12:36 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Package: wnpp >Severity: wishlist >Owner: Samuel Thibault > >* Package name: lwip > Version : 2.0.3 > Upstream Author : Adam Dunkels >Leon Woestenberg >* URL : http://savannah.nongnu.org/pr

Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/19/2017 02:01 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 12/07/2017 05:57 AM, Steve Robbins wrote: >>> So: if I changed the boost copyright file to say "Copyright: $Dates Boost >>> authors", would it pass ftp-master scrutiny? >> >> No, I don't thin

Bug#884758: ITP: r-cran-isoweek -- GNU R week of the year and weekday according to ISO 8601

2017-12-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-cran-isoweek Version : 0.6-2 Upstream Author : Uwe Block * URL : https://cran.r-project.org/package=ISOweek * License : GPL Programming Lang: GNU R Description : GNU R week of the