Re: Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 01 novembre 2011 à 15:23 -0700, Josh Triplett a écrit : > Those packages do not provide the NetworkManager DBus interface expected > by other components of GNOME. And anyway, why care? Metapackages are not a supermarket. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' `- signature.asc

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 11/01/2011 11:23 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: > Bernd Zeimetz wrote: >> And I believe that NM should not be something gnome should depend on as >> there are various other ways to configure your network. Imho it should >> Recommend network-manage | wicd-gtk | similar-tools-if-they-exist. > > Those p

Re: Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Josh Triplett
Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > And I believe that NM should not be something gnome should depend on as > there are various other ways to configure your network. Imho it should > Recommend network-manage | wicd-gtk | similar-tools-if-they-exist. Those packages do not provide the NetworkManager DBus interfa

Re: seeking comaintainer for debmirror

2011-11-01 Thread Joey Hess
Steve McIntyre wrote: > I'd like to help, but I may take a while to find time for it... I would be glad to have you, but there's still room for people with more time than us.. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: seeking comaintainer for debmirror

2011-11-01 Thread Steve McIntyre
Joey Hess wrote: > >I've been maintaining debmirror since we lost fjp. But moving to a cabin >with dialup internet shortly after adopting a mirror program turns out >to be a bad idea for developing it (though a nice use-case for using >it). So I'm seeking comaintainer(s). All that's needed is basic

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Josselin Mouette writes ("Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome"): > Le mardi 01 novembre 2011 à 13:42 +, Ian Jackson a écrit : > > Is there some other metapackage that can be installed to get a useful > > Gnome system but without n-m ? > > Yes: gnome-session or gnome-fallback-session shou

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Jon Dowland writes ("Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome"): > On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 02:56:53PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > We should do it when we judge that the benefits are worth the costs. > > In this particular case the costs seem to be minimal. There isn't > > even a direct patch-car

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Jon Dowland writes: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 02:56:53PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >> We should do it when we judge that the benefits are worth the costs. >> In this particular case the costs seem to be minimal. There isn't >> even a direct patch-carrying cost, since the dependency

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 10:21:04AM -0400, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 01:42:47PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Yes, that much is obvious. So the answer is that there is no harm in > > actually removing network-manager. > > There is harm in diverging from upstream. We're a

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 01 novembre 2011 à 13:42 +, Ian Jackson a écrit : > Is there some other metapackage that can be installed to get a useful > Gnome system but without n-m ? Yes: gnome-session or gnome-fallback-session should now contain the actual dependencies for a minimal desktop to actually work.

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 11/01/2011 05:54 PM, Florian Reitmeir wrote: [...] > i believe a way of installing network-manager, but disabling it > completly would be enough for many people. Although harddisk space is cheap these days, this should not be the preferred way. -- Bernd Zeimetz

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 11/01/2011 03:21 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 01:42:47PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >> Yes, that much is obvious. So the answer is that there is no harm in >> actually removing network-manager. > > There is harm in diverging from upstream. We're a software > distribu

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Florian Reitmeir
On 11/01/2011 04:46 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 02:56:53PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >> We should do it when we judge that the benefits are worth the costs. >> In this particular case the costs seem to be minimal. There isn't >> even a direct patch-carrying cost, since the dep

Re: Advocating the use of RDF for Debian's published metadata

2011-11-01 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Matthias Klumpp writes: […] > It would be very nice, if ftpmasters could tell if they would accept > a new format in the archive or if we should stay with RFC822 which is > used for nearly everything else already. >> Note that the same rationale stands for all metadata to be >> event

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 02:56:53PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > We should do it when we judge that the benefits are worth the costs. > In this particular case the costs seem to be minimal. There isn't > even a direct patch-carrying cost, since the dependency is expressed > in our own control files.

Bug#647285: ITP: musique -- Simple but sophisticated graphical music player

2011-11-01 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jan Hauke Rahm -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, musique is the new name of minitunes which is in unstable and testing at the moment. I maintain it myself. Unfortunately, upstream changed the name of minitunes to musique and released a

Re: Dealing with embedded javascript libraries

2011-11-01 Thread Antonio Terceiro
Michael Gilbert escreveu isso aí: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Zygmunt Krynicki wrote: > > Is there anyone that would like to mentor me for a while to help me get > > started? I'm quite interested in solving this problem. > > You can certainly work on anything in Debian (including this) and

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome"): > On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 01:42:47PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Yes, that much is obvious. So the answer is that there is no harm in > > actually removing network-manager. > > There is harm in diverging from upstream. We'

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Laurent Bigonville writes ("Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome"): > Well as already said, gnome-core meta-package depends on official core > GNOME modules, which network-manager is part of. If you don't want to > install network-manager, don't install gnome-core meta-package. Is there some other

Re: Minified files and source code requirement

2011-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Minified files and source code requirement"): > Paul Wise writes: > > What is the preferred form for modification for a work (aka source) is > > highly context-dependent. > > I'd like to poke a little bit at the assumption that these two things are > the same and that De

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Tue, 1 Nov 2011 12:31:26 +, Ian Jackson a écrit : > Josselin Mouette writes ("Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome"): > > Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 16:37 +, Ian Jackson a écrit : > > > I agree with the original submitter of this bug that > > > network-manager needs to be optional. I

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Luk Claes
On 11/01/2011 01:31 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Josselin Mouette writes ("Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome"): >> Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 16:37 +, Ian Jackson a écrit : >>> I agree with the original submitter of this bug that network-manager >>> needs to be optional. In particular, gnome-c

Bug#647269: RFA: ipplan -- web-based IP address manager and tracker

2011-11-01 Thread Jan Wagner
Package: wnpp Severity: normal X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org I request an adopter for the ipplan package. The long description is: IPplan is an administrative tool for ISPs and network service companies. It goes beyond IP address management to provide DNS administration, configu

Re: /var/lib/transmission-daemon directory ownership

2011-11-01 Thread Leo 'costela' Antunes
Hi, On 01/11/11 11:09, Дмитрий Матросов wrote: > Now in debian squeeze ownership of /var/lib/transmission-daemon folder is set > to 'root:root' > but, i think, it should be set to 'debian-transmission:debian-transmission'. > Also, i think that home folder of user 'debian-transmission' should al

Re: Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome

2011-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Josselin Mouette writes ("Bug#645656: network-manager in Gnome"): > Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 16:37 +, Ian Jackson a écrit : > > I agree with the original submitter of this bug that network-manager > > needs to be optional. In particular, gnome-core should not pull it > > in. What can be do

Re: Debian mailing list related to gnuradio?

2011-11-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Svante Signell wrote: > I wonder if there is a Debian mailing list related to gnuradio/sdcc > issues? Perhaps it would be best to file a bug? Some related lists: http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/ http://lists.debian.org/debian-hams/ -- bye, pabs http://

Debian mailing list related to gnuradio?

2011-11-01 Thread Svante Signell
Hi, I wonder if there is a Debian mailing list related to gnuradio/sdcc issues? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1320147213.3990.84.ca...@s149

Bug#647263: ITP: gpaste -- GPaste is a clipboard management suite for GNOME

2011-11-01 Thread Víctor Seva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Víctor Seva" -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: gpaste Version : 1.6 Upstream Author : Marc-Antoine Perennou * URL : https://github.com/Keruspe/GPaste/ * License : GPL3 Programming Lang: Va

/var/lib/transmission-daemon directory ownership

2011-11-01 Thread Дмитрий Матросов
Hi. Now in debian squeeze ownership of /var/lib/transmission-daemon folder is set to 'root:root' $ ls -la /var/lib/transmission-daemon/ total 16 drwxr-xr-x 4 rootroot4096 Nov 1 13:41 . drwxr-xr-x 80 rootroot4096 Nov 1 13:41 .. drw

Bug#647255: RFA: curl -- A library and a commandline client for HTTP and a number of protocols

2011-11-01 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: wnpp Severity: normal Hi, I am a bit tied up with real life and would like someone to take the maintainance of curl. There is a new upstream version but otherwise the package is in good shape. The packaging is versioned controlled using git

Re: Possible mass bug filling for package depending on "menu".

2011-11-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Tue, 01 Nov 2011, Luk Claes wrote: > On 11/01/2011 08:58 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 13:10 +, Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit : > >> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 08:49:01PM +0200, Frank lin Piat wrote: > >>> Specious "depends" relationship [AFAICT]: > >>> backint

Re: Possible mass bug filling for package depending on "menu".

2011-11-01 Thread Luk Claes
On 11/01/2011 08:58 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 13:10 +, Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit : >> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 08:49:01PM +0200, Frank lin Piat wrote: >>> Specious "depends" relationship [AFAICT]: >>> backintime-gnome - GNOME front-end for backintime >>>

Re: Possible mass bug filling for package depending on "menu".

2011-11-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 13:10 +, Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit : > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 08:49:01PM +0200, Frank lin Piat wrote: > > Specious "depends" relationship [AFAICT]: > > backintime-gnome - GNOME front-end for backintime > > backintime-kde- KDE front-end for backinti