Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 09:56:43PM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote: > I read it as stating that we assume firmwares to be under a DFSG compliant > license that does not violate the GPL when linked into the kernel. The > kernel is GPL and the firmwares may be under a variety of licenses that do > not v

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Ean Schuessler
- "Ean Schuessler" wrote: > I know that some are fixated on the fact that firmware runs on "some > other CPU" but I don't buy that line of reasoning. If this firmware > business passes then I am going to start hunting down some MAME ROMs > that have lapsed into the public domain. Those ROMs,

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Ean Schuessler
- "Steve Langasek" wrote: > The title of ballot option 5 is a complete fabrication on the part of the > Secretary that has nothing to do with its text. If option 5 had actually > said what the title claims it says, then a different supermajority > requirement might be in order, but that's no

Re: Security slightly compromised. Why is lenny-security altering uw-imap_2007b~dfsg.orig.tar.gz?

2008-12-14 Thread Brian May
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If the tarball has changed then how about a 7:2007b~dfsg2-? That way the filename will differ and no conflict will arise. I am a bit surprised that a security update requires modifications to the upstream tar ball. I would speculate this was a mistake, and the be

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:14 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > Boycotting is unlikely to prevent all ballot options from reaching the > quorum requirements, and given the inconsistent application of supermajority > requirements by the secretary it is possible that the vote outcome, as > determined by t

Re: Security slightly compromised. Why is lenny-security altering uw-imap_2007b~dfsg.orig.tar.gz?

2008-12-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
José Luis Tallón writes: > Nico Golde wrote: >> Yes. >> I see two possibilities here, one option is to get >> 8:2007b~dfsg-1 unblocked and let this migrate to lenny >> (there is some weird SONAME change though) or to reupload a >> +lenny2 version to testing-security again. >> > Yuck! >> Opi

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:23:18PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >Debian Project Secretary (13/12/2008): >> >>FIRST CALL FOR VOTES FOR THE Lenny Release General Resolution >>= === = === === = === === == >> >> Voting period starts 00:00:01 UTC on Sund

Re: Security slightly compromised. Why is lenny-security altering uw-imap_2007b~dfsg.orig.tar.gz?

2008-12-14 Thread José Luis Tallón
Nico Golde wrote: > Yes. > I see two possibilities here, one option is to get > 8:2007b~dfsg-1 unblocked and let this migrate to lenny > (there is some weird SONAME change though) or to reupload a > +lenny2 version to testing-security again. > Yuck! > Opinions? > 7:2007b~dfsg-4+lenny2 soun

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le Sunday 14 December 2008 21:19:35 Andreas Barth, vous avez écrit : > > FD will be a mess, but as I've previously posted, I believe that means > > that we fail to override a delegate decision and hence the release of > > lenny proceeds. > > Though I agree with that, voting for option 4 is even mor

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Boycotting is unlikely to prevent all ballot options from reaching the > > Yeah Boycotting is silly, that's why I've voted for FD first, my > "preferred" choices second, the rest third. So in effect you prefer the options that do not require superm

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:14:34PM +, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:49:10PM +0900, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Pierre Habouzit > > wrote: > > > This vote is nonsensical, and I'm hereby calling people to rank FD first > > > or to boycott it. This

Bug#508741: ITP: plexus-maven-plugin -- Maven plugin for the Plexus Component Descriptor Creator

2008-12-14 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Werner * Package name: plexus-maven-plugin Version : 1.3.8 Upstream Author : Codehaus Foundation * URL : http://plexus.codehaus.org/plexus-maven-plugin/ * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Java Descriptio

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 03:43:24PM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote: > > Boycotting is unlikely to prevent all ballot options from reaching the > > quorum requirements, and given the inconsistent application of supermajority > > requirements by the secretary it is possible that the vote outcome, as > >

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Ean Schuessler
- "Steve Langasek" wrote: > Boycotting is unlikely to prevent all ballot options from reaching the > quorum requirements, and given the inconsistent application of supermajority > requirements by the secretary it is possible that the vote outcome, as > determined by the secretary, will not ma

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Debian Project Secretary (13/12/2008): > >FIRST CALL FOR VOTES FOR THE Lenny Release General Resolution >= === = === === = === === == > > Voting period starts 00:00:01 UTC on Sunday, December 14th, 2008 > Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC on S

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Loïc Minier
[ MFU debian-vote@ ] On Sat, Dec 13, 2008, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > [ ] Choice 1: Reaffirm the Social Contract I'm fine with reaffirming the social contract. > [ ] Choice 2: Allow Lenny to release with proprietary firmware [3:1] > [ ] Choice 3: Allow Lenny to release with DFSG vi

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Andreas Barth
* Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) [081214 20:42]: > Pierre Habouzit writes: > > > This vote is nonsensical, and I'm hereby calling people to rank FD first > > or to boycott it. This is a practical joke. > > Please vote FD instead of boycotting it unless you actually want every jot > and tittle of

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:49:10PM +0900, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > >> -- > >> Choice 5: Assume blobs comply with GPL unless proven otherwise > > Why GPL ? Why not BSD ? Why not

Re: Security slightly compromised. Why is lenny-security altering uw-imap_2007b~dfsg.orig.tar.gz?

2008-12-14 Thread Nico Golde
Ccing maintainer. Hi, * Goswin von Brederlow [2008-12-14 20:14]: > I run reprepro to create a local mirror for lenny, lenny-security and > sid. Since I have it setup to put all 3 into a common pool I noticed > the following: [...] > As you can see Lenny-Security has a different orig.tar.gz than

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Pierre Habouzit writes: > This vote is nonsensical, and I'm hereby calling people to rank FD first > or to boycott it. This is a practical joke. Please vote FD instead of boycotting it unless you actually want every jot and tittle of Debian to have source and have all DFSG issues resolved before

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Bastian Venthur
Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:58:57AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: >> Why is this important mail hidden in -devel? I wouldn't have noticed it >> if I hadn't read something about this on planet-debian. >> >> Shouldn't such important mails about voting go to -announce? >

Re: Bug#508725: ITP:pmwiki -- easy of use wiki-based system

2008-12-14 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:46:39PM +0100, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: >[...] > Note that, there is a "long-standing" ITP for pmwiki, maybe you can > merge them, it's http://bugs.debian.org/330117 and a RFP which is > merged with #330117 (http://bugs.debian.org/471816). Sorry ... RFP, not ITP. Kin

Re: Bug#508725: ITP:pmwiki -- easy of use wiki-based system

2008-12-14 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi Kristian Paul On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 02:16:37PM -0500, Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas wrote: > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Package: pmwiki > Severity: wishlist > Owner: cristian paul peñaranda rojas > > * Package name : pmwiki > Version : 2.2.0 > Upstream

Bug#508725: ITP:pmwiki -- easy of use wiki-based system

2008-12-14 Thread Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package: pmwiki Severity: wishlist Owner: cristian paul peñaranda rojas * Package name: pmwiki Version : 2.2.0 Upstream Author : Patrick R. Michaud * URL : http://www.pmwiki.org License : GPL Programming Lang: PH

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:03:17PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Unless I'm mistaken this shouldn't be [3:1] as it's specifically allowed > by the § about delegates in the constitution. "Delegates shall take > decision they see fit". What should be [3:1] is to dis-empower them from > having such

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:58:57AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Why is this important mail hidden in -devel? I wouldn't have noticed it > if I hadn't read something about this on planet-debian. > > Shouldn't such important mails about voting go to -announce? http://lists.debian.org/debian-deve

Security slightly compromised. Why is lenny-security altering uw-imap_2007b~dfsg.orig.tar.gz?

2008-12-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, I run reprepro to create a local mirror for lenny, lenny-security and sid. Since I have it setup to put all 3 into a common pool I noticed the following: Lenny: -- Package: uw-imap Version: 7:2007b~dfsg-3 Files: b52118669abf422f766d14e3e2d69daa 1608456 uw-imap_2007b~dfsg.orig.tar.gz Sid

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> -- >> Choice 5: Assume blobs comply with GPL unless proven otherwise > > Why GPL ? Why not BSD ? Why not "DFSG" ? I believe this is because the GPL requires source code

Bug#508644: general: installing mdadm pulls in citadel-server as depedency

2008-12-14 Thread Hasse Hagen Johansen
> "Eugene" == Eugene V Lyubimkin writes: Eugene> Hasse Hagen Johansen wrote: >> I think it would be better to ask which package to use for a >> virtual if it is installed interactively. In my case actually >> didn't want exim4 neither citadel - not for a mailserver. In most

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 03:02:17AM +, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > -- > Choice 2: Allow Lenny to release with proprietary firmware [3:1] > == == = = == === === = Why on earth doe

Re: bug-squashing party held at MIT SIPB

2008-12-14 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:47:18 -0500 Greg Price wrote: > * Waseem Daher closed #436140 as unreproducible > * Tim Abbott fixed #476525, NMU'd by Sam Hartman > * Evan Broder fixed #507071, NMU'd by Karl Ramm > * Sam Hartman downgraded #507072 > * Nelson Elhage downgraded #504626 with Sam Hartman

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-14 Thread Bastian Venthur
Why is this important mail hidden in -devel? I wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't read something about this on planet-debian. Shouldn't such important mails about voting go to -announce? Cheers, Bastian Debian Project Secretary schrieb: [...] -- Bastian Venthur

bug-squashing party held at MIT SIPB

2008-12-14 Thread Greg Price
As of Friday morning there were 109 RC bugs remaining that affected both testing and unstable. So we held a bug-squashing party today at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, at the office of the student computing group SIPB. The BSP was publicized to computer-science students at MIT. About