Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-16 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 02:38 -0300, Martín Ferrari wrote: > Dear -devel: > > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to > upstream bug t

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Martín Ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to > upstream

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
"Martín Ferrari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to upstream > bug trackers. > > It could be used

Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-16 Thread Martín Ferrari
Dear -devel: Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to upstream bug trackers. It could be used to automatically forward bugs, track which

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:59:52PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > 2 small CDs per arch (business card, netinst) > ~30 CDs per arch for a full CD set > ~4 DVDs per arch for a full DVD set > (total 353 CDs, 51 DVDs, 426 GB) Bluray image? Apparently there's been a winner in the format wars, and w

Re: table view wnpp page now on wnpp.debian.net

2008-03-16 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Tim Cutts wrote: Hm, can you help with creating a good set of colors? There are a number of programs around which can help with this. I use Color Oracle: http://colororacle.cartography.ch/ It sits in a Gnome panel, and will temporarily change your entire display's colours to simulate thr

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-16 Thread Paul Cager
Steve McIntyre wrote: [ Please note Reply-To: to debian-cd... ] Hi folks, It's time for me to ask the question again - what CDs and DVDs will we find useful enough that we should make them for lenny? [...] 1. Is it worth making full sets of CDs at all? Can we rely on people having a net

What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Please note Reply-To: to debian-cd... ] Hi folks, It's time for me to ask the question again - what CDs and DVDs will we find useful enough that we should make them for lenny? The reason I'm asking is that we're looking at a *huge* number of discs, and it's not clear that they'll all be useful.

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Joey Hess
Bas Wijnen wrote: > This does break versions which go from 1 to 1.1 to 1.2 to 2 to 2.1, etc, > but we're talking about native packages, which means we can expect > upstream not to be so crazy. People do this all the time, for completly sane reasons. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Di

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 09:07:48AM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > I think you want the one that uploaded the .orig.tar.gz, so: > > lynx -dump > > http://packages.qa.debian.org/r/rhinote/news/20060625T184700Z.html | gpg > > --verify > > gpg: Signature made Sun 11 Jun 2006 03:11:54 PM CEST using DS

Re: dpkg with triggers support (again)

2008-03-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 16:05 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > OoO Pendant le journal télévisé du jeudi 13 mars 2008, vers 20:00, Russ > Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > > > (I *have* heard of architectures in common use where a pointer to data > > is a different size than a pointer to a

Re: I am confused about configuration files

2008-03-16 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Russ Allbery] >> Is the only way to make sure that conffiles do not clutter filesystem to >> remove them in maintainer's script on upgrade from previous version? > > I believe that's the case, although I'd like to get some confirmation > before adding something to Policy 10.7.3 about this. See Bu

Re: I am confused about configuration files

2008-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
"Artur R. Czechowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, why it still exists? I read Debian Policy, section 10.7.3[1] but it > does not say what shall happen if after upgrade of the package it does > not provide conffile anymore. > > Is the only way to make sure that conffiles do not clutter filesy

Re: I am confused about configuration files

2008-03-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > > Is the only way to make sure that conffiles do not clutter filesystem to > remove them in maintainer's script on upgrade from previous version? That's correct. The only way currently to remove obsolete conffiles is to do it manually in the maintainer scripts [1] I

Re: apt-get and SOCKS

2008-03-16 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Patrick Matthäi] > is there any reason to encrypt your traffic on downloading packages? > I think this will only cause more traffic and cpu overhead on the > mirrors instead of help anything. I took is request to ask for SOCKS support, not encrypted connections. I know that I've used the SOCKS f

IPv6 stack initialization during boot (Was: Status of dependency based boot sequencing release goal 2008-03)

2008-03-16 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Florian Weimer] > This reminds me of an old problem: Does the network dependency > result in initialization of the IPv6 stack? That is up to the network enabling script to decide. :) At the moment, the $network virtual facility is defined to mean the scripts networking and ifupdown. If these s

I am confused about configuration files

2008-03-16 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
Hello developers, Trying to run insserv and dependency based boot sequence on my workstation I run into a phenomenon I cannot understand. Let's see an example: xserver-xorg package. I have latest version from unstable: ii xserver-xorg 1:7.3+10 the X.Org X server Let's see the content of

Re: apt-get and SOCKS

2008-03-16 Thread Patrick Matthäi
xHemi schrieb: > This might not be the correct place but here goes.. > > apt-get provides http_proxy and ftp_proxy support but why not SOCKS? > I have no experience with SOCKS other than that I use it daily in conjunction > with firefox and ssh. I think it is a feature which could be of use > to o

Re: Status of dependency based boot sequencing release goal 2008-03

2008-03-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Petter Reinholdtsen: > Here is a small update on the release goal of converting the Debian boot > sequening to use dynamic and dependency based ordering instead of hardcoded > sequence numbers. > > The latest status information is available from > http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/Dependency

Bug#471235: ITP: python-pysnmp4-apps -- Applications for the Python SNMP library

2008-03-16 Thread Jan Lübbe
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jan Lübbe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-pysnmp4-apps Version : 0.2.6a Upstream Author : Ilya Etingof * URL : http://pysnmp.sourceforge.net/ * License : BSD-style Programming Lang: Python Description

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:19:45PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080315 21:12]: > > $ cat /srv/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject/rhinote_0.7.0-2_i386.reason > > Rejected: md5sum and/or size mismatch on existing copy of > > rhinote_0.7.0.orig.tar.gz. > > Rejected

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sat, 02 Feb 2008, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Is there sombody working on Wig&Pen? Is the format consensual enough > > that it would be accepted in Debian? > > I plan to work on it (but have not done anything yet except thinking about > it and followi

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:13:32PM +, The Fungi wrote: > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 09:07:48AM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > I'm going to contact upstream and ask if they would consider > > releasing a new version so that this can get cleaned up. > Wouldn't prepending an epoch be less drastic? D

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 11:22 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Adam D. Barratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 09:06 +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: [...] > >> Good idea. Even better, IMO, would be to use a system which is in > >> line with non-native packages. How about this rule: > >

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
"Adam D. Barratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 09:06 +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: >> [Adding bug #437392 to Cc, which deals with this issue for normal >> NMUs, because I'm making a suggestion about them.] >> >> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:52:55PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: >>

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:13:32PM +, The Fungi wrote: > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 09:07:48AM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > I'm going to contact upstream and ask if they would consider > > releasing a new version so that this can get cleaned up. > > Wouldn't prepending an epoch be less drastic?

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
The Fungi wrote: > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 09:07:48AM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > I'm going to contact upstream and ask if they would consider > > releasing a new version so that this can get cleaned up. > > Wouldn't prepending an epoch be less drastic? Doesn't sound like the > mistake was upst

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread The Fungi
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 09:07:48AM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: > I'm going to contact upstream and ask if they would consider > releasing a new version so that this can get cleaned up. Wouldn't prepending an epoch be less drastic? Doesn't sound like the mistake was upstream's... -- { IRL(Jeremy_St

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Kevin Coyner
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 01:52:32PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote.. > > > But is there a way to know who the sponsor of rhinote_0.7.0-1 was? > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lynx -dump > > http://packages.qa.debian.org/r/rhinote/news/20080316T114705Z.html | gpg > > --verify > > gpg: Signature made

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 16/03/2008, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > But is there a way to know who the sponsor of rhinote_0.7.0-1 was? Besides the “lynx -dump”-based solutions mentioned in this thread, there's far easier: | $ who-uploads rhinote # from devscripts | Uploads for rhinote: | 0.7.0-2 to unstable: Kevin Coyner <[

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 01:37:29PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > "Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080315 21:12]: > >> $ cat /srv/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject/rhinote_0.7.0-2_i386.reason > >> Rejected: md5sum and/or size mismatch on ex

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080315 21:12]: >> $ cat /srv/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject/rhinote_0.7.0-2_i386.reason >> Rejected: md5sum and/or size mismatch on existing copy of >> rhinote_0.7.0.orig.tar.gz. >> Rejected: can not overwrite exi

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 08:23:43PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:10:13PM +0100, Bas Wijnen a écrit : > > > > This could also lead to a problem in very rare cases: If a program has > > the same version in stable and testing, and gets a security update, then > > they both

broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080315 21:12]: > $ cat /srv/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject/rhinote_0.7.0-2_i386.reason > Rejected: md5sum and/or size mismatch on existing copy of > rhinote_0.7.0.orig.tar.gz. > Rejected: can not overwrite existing copy of 'rhinote_0.7.0.orig.tar.gz' > already

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 09:06 +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: > [Adding bug #437392 to Cc, which deals with this issue for normal > NMUs, because I'm making a suggestion about them.] > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:52:55PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > devscripts 2.10.19 (soon to be uploaded) will modif

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:10:13PM +0100, Bas Wijnen a écrit : > > This could also lead to a problem in very rare cases: If a program has > the same version in stable and testing, and gets a security update, then > they both get a similar version. For the example, say 1.2-5.1+sarge1 in > stable a

Bug#471155: ITP: gnview -- 2ch browser that uses gikonavi's setting and log data

2008-03-16 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: gnview Version: 0.8 Upstream Author: Mitsutoshi Kiuchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL: http://gnview.sourceforge.jp/ License: GPL version2 Programming Lang: Perl Description

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 03:47 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > The current binNMU numbering scheme was selected explicitly to allow > security uploads to sort later by numbering as > +; e.g., 1.2-5.1+etch1. That makes sense, although doesn't seem to match current practice. Was any consideration given

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Sunday 16 March 2008 00:52, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > We're aware that the Developers Reference specifies that the latter > > format should be used, but it is problematic as -0.1 sorts before +b1 > > and, as such, the NMU will not supersede any prev

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 03:47:56AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > The current binNMU numbering scheme was selected explicitly to allow > security uploads to sort later by numbering as > +; e.g., 1.2-5.1+etch1. This could also lead to a problem in very rare cases: If a program has the same version

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sunday 16 March 2008 11:47, Steve Langasek wrote: > The current binNMU numbering scheme was selected explicitly to allow > security uploads to sort later by numbering as > +; e.g., 1.2-5.1+etch1. Ah, I wasn't aware of that (and no-one seems to be using it currently). The release managers know

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:36:20AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Sunday 16 March 2008 00:52, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > We're aware that the Developers Reference specifies that the latter > > format should be used, but it is problematic as -0.1 sorts before +b1 > > and, as such, the NMU will n

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sunday 16 March 2008 00:52, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > We're aware that the Developers Reference specifies that the latter > format should be used, but it is problematic as -0.1 sorts before +b1 > and, as such, the NMU will not supersede any previous binNMUs of the > same package version. > > Whil

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Adam D. Barratt: > Currently, debchange will produce a version number of X-0.1 in such > cases which suffers from the problem described above. It has been > suggested that either one of +s1 / +sec1 / +security1 or 1 > should be used to avoid the issue. For stable and oldstable, we need 1. But

Re: Version numbering for security uploads of native packages

2008-03-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
[Adding bug #437392 to Cc, which deals with this issue for normal NMUs, because I'm making a suggestion about them.] On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:52:55PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > devscripts 2.10.19 (soon to be uploaded) will modify the behaviour of > "debchange --nmu" to version an NMU of a n