Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> Because there is documentation telling what is going behind the scenes? > Like understandable manpages for every debhelper command. Sure. I think that we basically here all agree that, whether we actually like cdbs or not, its documentation has a lot of room for improvement... signature.as

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Is it no longer a requirement of NM that applicants demonstrate > > themselves capable of putting together a source package without the use > > of rules helpers? > > Well, I've never actually done this, a

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> cdbs is top-down because it defines the package build as much as > possible in line with how the cdbs developers think it should be > done. It expects the developer to tweak the countless, > undocumented parameters until it's right. > > debhelper is bottom-up because it gives you smal

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> There are also pretty significant differences in the design goals of > debhelper and cdbs, differences which I believe have a major impact on the > ability of maintainers to understand their own packages and on the > respective helper-induced build failure rates of the two. I think these are >

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:41:34AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > When you make a wishlist bug RC, you are by definition forcing someone > > else to spend time on it, either to fix it or play BTS ping pong with > > you, since their package doesn't need to be kept out of the next stable > > r

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Manoj Srivastava [Fri, Jun 09 2006, 02:02:48PM]: > On 9 Jun 2006, Christoph Berg said: > > This is also my impression. CDBS might be nice to automate the task > > "make a .deb out of this Gnome source", but imho it completely fails > > when you want to deviate from the "standard" in an

Bug#372530: ITP: libhighline-ruby -- High-level interactive IO Ruby library

2006-06-09 Thread Esteban Manchado Velázquez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Esteban Manchado Velázquez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libhighline-ruby Version : 1.2.0 Upstream Author : James Edward Gray II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://highline.rubyforge.org/ * License : Ruby's and GPL

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it no longer a requirement of NM that applicants demonstrate > themselves capable of putting together a source package without the use > of rules helpers? Well, I've never actually done this, and I got through NM. (I've always used debhelper, altho

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.10.0010 +0200]: > Let's compare debhelper to cdbs. ... this makes me think: cdbs is top-down because it defines the package build as much as possible in line with how the cdbs developers think it should be done. It expects the develope

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 02:02:48PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> This is my opinion and others will disagree: > >> Please don't. CDBS is a major pain to use for those who didn't > >> (co-)author it. It's just too much about obfuscation. > > This is also my impression. CDBS might be nice to

Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities

2006-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> I am still puzzled. Imagine for instance that French translators of > OpenOffice are willing to use this infrastructure, whereas Dutch > are not interested. Will this situation be allowed? Well, it is quite likely to happen, yes, so my first reaction is to say that, yes, the system should all

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 02:02:48PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I am surprised to hear you say so, since CDBS is one of the > most configurable build systems out there. You can add commands to > any phase of the build, by just adding targets/dependencies/variables. If you can figure

Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities

2006-06-09 Thread Denis Barbier
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:18:31AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > raw answers... > > > Who does decide which files are being imported? > > I would say the team who administers the server (what we defined as > "Administrators" in the infrastructure targets). This is of course > coordinated with

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 9 Jun 2006, Christoph Berg said: > Re: martin f krafft 2006-06-09 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> also sprach Jean Parpaillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.09.1118 >> +0200]: >>> I want to migrate my package (wormux) to CDBS. >> >> Why? > > I was just about to ask the same. Which packaging scheme do yo

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Christoph Berg [Fri, 09 Jun 2006 19:30:27 +0200]: > Again, I'm fine if you use CDBS for your package, but please never > recommend it to any new maintainer. Full ack, seconded. -- Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es Debian Developer

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: martin f krafft 2006-06-09 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > also sprach Jean Parpaillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.09.1118 +0200]: > > I want to migrate my package (wormux) to CDBS. > > Why? I was just about to ask the same. Which packaging scheme do you use now? > This is my opinion and others will

Re: GBit performance problem with nfs client

2006-06-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bastian Blank: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 12:53:48PM +0200, Gordon Grubert wrote: >> Problematic Debian-Client (structurally identical to Suse-Client): >> - Linux DEBIAN-CLIENT 2.6.15.1 >> - Yukon Gigabit Ethernet with default drivers (Debian Sarge AMD64) > > Sarge don't have a kernel 2.6.15. But

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: >> Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Most maintainers are much more cooperative when you tag the bug as >> > +patch and say something like: >> >> How do you think I should have applied

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-09 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Most maintainers are much more cooperative when you tag the bug as > > +patch and say something like: > > How do you think I should have applied this advice in the case of bug > #360851? In the

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.09.1747 +0200]: > > This is old. Why not switch to debhelper compatibility level 5, > > which includes switching to a new format for *.install files? > > What new format? Sorry, there's no old and new. There's one and two column, the first of

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.09.1724 +0200]: > For my own packages I usually do not use debhelper features > unavailable in stable as I like to be able to make backports > easily. Then use compatibility level 4. Debhelper 5 *is* on backports.org though. -- Please do n

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Most maintainers are much more cooperative when you tag the bug as > +patch and say something like: How do you think I should have applied this advice in the case of bug #360851? > As opposed to writing to demand that the maintainer spend their free > ti

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
* martin f krafft [Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:19:03 +0200]: > This is old. Why not switch to debhelper compatibility level 5, > which includes switching to a new format for *.install files? What new format? -- Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es Debian Developer

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
martin f krafft debian.org> writes: [...] > also sprach Andreas Metzler downhill.at.eu.org> [2006.06.09.1337 +0200]: >> I am using >> DEB_DH_INSTALL_SOURCEDIR = debian/tmp >> for that purpose. > This is old. Why not switch to debhelper compatibility level 5, > which includes switching to a new

Re: GBit performance problem with nfs client

2006-06-09 Thread Gordon Grubert
Problematic Debian-Client (structurally identical to Suse-Client): - Linux DEBIAN-CLIENT 2.6.15.1 - Yukon Gigabit Ethernet with default drivers (Debian Sarge AMD64) Sarge don't have a kernel 2.6.15. But this is a known and unfixed bug in Linux. The fix is sheduled for .18. My fault. The used

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:46:06AM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 10:28:29AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-07 02:20]: > > > We did pick two compiler warnings and scanned the build logs

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: severities of blocking bugs"): > Well, consider this. If there is a feature someone wants from > a package, say kernel-pack^H^H^H^Hfoo. >[most of scenario snipped -iwj] > Can one now change the wishlist bug to grave as well? I think > not, since

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-09 Thread Ian Jackson
John Goerzen writes ("Re: Who can make binding legal agreements"): > The other plausible interpretation is that SPI *is* on the hook, as the > legal entity that owns servers that are distributing software. If you use your shell account at your ISP to distribute software, and the ISP concludes you

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-09 Thread Ian Jackson
John Goerzen writes ("Re: Who can make binding legal agreements"): > * If a member project engages in activities that would jeopardize >SPI's classification as a non-profit entity Things of that kind would be using SPI property or funds for unsuitable activities. Note that if Debian do it se

Re: Renaming a package

2006-06-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Daniel Kobras writes ("Re: Renaming a package"): > but the alternative patch to dpkg is quite simple (see > below). Alas, it changes current behaviour. I don't think it this patch is correct as is, but something similar might not be unreasonable if it had to be turned on with a command line optio

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Jean Parpaillon [Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:18:07 +0200]: > Why do the default behaviour of dh_install is not to get files in > 'debian/tmp' ? That was the default behavior for the old dh_movefiles, which got deprecated in debhelper 4 in favour of dh_install (see the changelog for 4.0.0 for details).

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jean Parpaillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.09.1118 +0200]: > I want to migrate my package (wormux) to CDBS. Why? This is my opinion and others will disagree: Please don't. CDBS is a major pain to use for those who didn't (co-)author it. It's just too much about obfuscation. > In th

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-09 Thread Simon Kelley
Martin Michlmayr wrote: Simon Kelley dnsmasq 2.31-1 Looks pretty trivial, it will fixed in the next upstream/upload. Cheers, Simon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GBit performance problem with nfs client

2006-06-09 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 12:53:48PM +0200, Gordon Grubert wrote: > Problematic Debian-Client (structurally identical to Suse-Client): > - Linux DEBIAN-CLIENT 2.6.15.1 > - Yukon Gigabit Ethernet with default drivers (Debian Sarge AMD64) Sarge don't have a kernel 2.6.15. But this is a known and unfix

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Jean Parpaillon
Le 09.06.2006 13:37, Andreas Metzler a écrit : > Jean Parpaillon altern.org> writes: > >> I want to migrate my package (wormux) to CDBS. >> In the .install files, path are not prefixed by "debian/tmp" so >> the building fail. >> It seems that I can correct this in 2 ways: >> - either I prefix t

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Jean Parpaillon altern.org> writes: > I want to migrate my package (wormux) to CDBS. > In the .install files, path are not prefixed by "debian/tmp" so > the building fail. > It seems that I can correct this in 2 ways: > - either I prefix the paths with debian/tmp > - or I can set a special variabl

Re: mystery of dh_installdirs

2006-06-09 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi, On Fri, Jun 09, 2006, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: > Hi all, I got an FTBFS bug yesterday; > > There was an error while trying to autobuild your package: > > > install -m 755 debian/lynx > > > /build/buildd/lynx-cur-2.8.6dev18/debian/lynx-cur-wrapper/usr/bin/lynx-cur > > > install: cannot cr

Re: debdelta

2006-06-09 Thread A Mennucc
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: The command 'debdelta-upgrade' is meant to be run between 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'; it downloads .debdelta files and recreate the new .deb files from them; always using the *installed* old version of the .deb, and not the old .deb file itself. Is it

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Jean Parpaillon said: > Hi, > I want to migrate my package (wormux) to CDBS. > In the .install files, path are not prefixed by "debian/tmp" so > the building fail. > It seems that I can correct this in 2 ways: > - either I prefix the paths with debian/tmp > - or I can s

CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-09 Thread Jean Parpaillon
Hi, I want to migrate my package (wormux) to CDBS. In the .install files, path are not prefixed by "debian/tmp" so the building fail. It seems that I can correct this in 2 ways: - either I prefix the paths with debian/tmp - or I can set a special variable (DEB_DESTDIR, am I right ?) to debian/tmp

Bug#372268: ITP: valkyrie -- A graphical front-end to valgrind

2006-06-09 Thread Tobias Klauser
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tobias Klauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: valkyrie Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : OpenWorks LLP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.open-works.co.uk/projects/valkyrie.html * License : GPL Programming Lang:

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-09 Thread Joost Yervante Damad
Hi, quite some of the "dereferencing type-punned pointer" problems are really problems in the wxwindows 2.6 library. Greetings, Joost Damad -- The planet Andete is famous for it's killer edible poets. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co