Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 02 December 2004 11:38, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:38:54AM +0100, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: > > I can volunteer to provide some naked photos of myself, but I guess they > > will be more suitable for section "fun" than section "erotic". >

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 02 December 2004 04:54, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was already on time 17 and another time 3 month in prison... > ...for nothing ! I do not like to continue this in Iran. The solution is to not live in Iran. I know it sounds harsh, but we can't adapt the rest of

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 02 December 2004 04:30, Everton da Silva Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's pure anti-speech insanity leading the way > to socialism. That's an amusing statement. Please learn what socialism is before re-joining the discussion. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA S

Bug#283903: ITP: dbconfig-common -- common framework for packaging database applications

2004-12-01 Thread Sean Finney
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package name: dbconfig-common Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://people.debian.org/~seanius/policy/dbconfig-common.html License : BSD

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Re: [OT] God knows what [was Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor]

2004-12-01 Thread William Ballard
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:15:44PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > Killing targetted innocent civilians to promote a political cause is quite > popular on all sides however. What was the political target of killing the woman who'd lived in Iraq for 30 years and screamed the loudest for the sanctio

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2004-12-01 Thread Alexander Wirt
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Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 02 December 2004 09:15, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would not like to be in the position of panderingf to such > insanity. Hmm, if we flood iran with enough pr0n, perhaps they'll > all kill each other off, and we can inject some sanity into the > country. I th

Re: [OT] God knows what [was Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor]

2004-12-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 02 December 2004 07:07, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you claiming that there are NOT, at this time, plenty of people > killing random innocents, and waving the Islamic Crescent to justify it? Random innocents? No, I don't see any evidence of that. Killing targett

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No, that doesn't work. There's some base level of stuff that's so > unlawful we don't include it because it would cut off far too much of > the userbase (or cause them to commit illegal acts). So if you think the package in question is actually illegal

Re: Linux Gaming (Was: Full replacement of MS)

2004-12-01 Thread Brendan
On Tuesday 30 November 2004 01:30, Steve Lamb wrote: > Same here. That's the only reason my game machine is Win2k as the > primary boot instead of Linux. Xbox or PS2. Linux goes on hda1 > > Really? I haven't. I'm still bleary eyed from too much drinking and > > playing Unreal Tourname

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 06:55 pm, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > But by this logic, Debian should include every bit of software it > > can -- if those countries with pesky copyright laws won't let us > > distribute it there, then we hope that portion of the world gets > > better in time.  Debian

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:46:16PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:25:36AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > The Christian Bible ought to be OK by most Islamic scholars - it's the > > Crusader history that has caused most of the problems - but you I stand by this one :

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread John Hasler
William Ballard writes: > After all, we have Christian Syria and Christian Lebanon out of it. There were Christians in Syria and Lebanon _long_ before the Crusades. -- John Hasler

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
William Ballard wrote: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:25:36AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > The Christian Bible ought to be OK by most Islamic scholars - it's the > > Crusader history that has caused most of the problems - but you > > After 9/11 I saw a fellow named Tariq Ramadan on C-Span, an

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread William Ballard
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:25:36AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > The Christian Bible ought to be OK by most Islamic scholars - it's the > Crusader history that has caused most of the problems - but you After 9/11 I saw a fellow named Tariq Ramadan on C-Span, and one of his books was the histo

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And we have no time to set up i judgement over content -- > there is a clear criteria for inclusion of packages in Debian already. We have no need

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:50:08PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think that is the main issue here. I would like to believe that > > Debian is capable of showing more respect for other people than > > including hotbabe in the distribution would indi

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 02/12/2004 Brian May wrote: > This is different from the Bible - if you find the bible offensive you > don't have to install it. > > If you don't want your kids to install nude pictures, they might find > it on a source you hadn't anticipated (a Debian CD of all things) and > install it without

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:32:18PM +, Will Newton wrote: > On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:35, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > Right. We should not have games like quake, doom, or > > nethack,. since they promoite murder and mayhem and eating of > > corpses. > > So far so sarcastic. IMO if it ca

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:38:54AM +0100, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: > I can volunteer to provide some naked photos of myself, but I guess they will > be more suitable for section "fun" than section "erotic". There was discussion on IRC in the last few days about a "Men of Debian" calendar.

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Cesar Martinez Izquierdo
El Miércoles 01 Diciembre 2004 18:01, Michelle Konzack escribió: > Am 2004-12-01 12:30:11, schrieb Cesar Martinez Izquierdo: > > IMHO, we really can't exclude all the programs that *MAY BE* illegal in > > some country. We should only exclude when there is an actual legal > > threaten. > > Nudity an

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:55, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:41:30 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:42, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:01:08 -0600, Joe Wreschnig > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> > >> > On Tue,

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Michelle Konzack | > This program is fully DFSG-compliant. As for the "local law policy", | > unless i'm very wrong, Debian already provides software which is "illegal" | > in some countries (such as cryptographic software). This has never been a | > problem, hopefully, otherwise Debian lawyers

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 00:39:12 +0100, Maciej Dems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > PatrzÄ w ekran, a to Michelle Konzack pisze do mnie: >> > someone maintains it. To the pictures - maybe we could avoid the >> > problem by making the thing theme-able, distribute a >> > unproblematic version (e.g. only dow

Re: New method for Packages/Sources file updates

2004-12-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: [snip] > >> With cumulative patches you run into the problem that you need a new > >> cummulative patch for every day that contains most of what the > >> previous one did. That realy quickly becomes a space issue. > > > > Errm, no, it doesn't need _one_ new cumulative pa

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We need to decide what statutes if any this program could violate if > distributed, and if the risks of alienating/denying that portion of > users (in this case, people under 18/21 in various countries Debia

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:10:59 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 17:12, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> > We need to discuss this point and find a technical way of solving >> > the first. >> >> erotic.debian.org > It seems to me this is the sensible solution. When

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:41:30 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:42, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:01:08 -0600, Joe Wreschnig >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 13:26, Eric Lavarde wrote: >> >> Hi again, >> >> >>

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:35, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Right. We should not have games like quake, doom, or >> nethack,. since they promoite murder and mayhem and eating of >> corpses. > So far so sarcastic. IMO if it

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:38:19 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> There are a number of locations where gambling is illegal, as are >> all games of chance. > That's "gambling" as in "wagering a stake on a game of cards" not > ga

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-12-02 00:39:12, schrieb Maciej Dems: > Patrz? w ekran, a to Michelle Konzack pisze do mnie: > > > someone maintains it. To the pictures - maybe we could avoid the > > > problem by making the thing theme-able, distribute a unproblematic > > > version (e.g. only down to the bikini) along some

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Will Newton
On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 22:15, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Anybody who can't obtain porn using only the tools provided on a > Debian CD is a total moron. You might as well complain that the > internet is bad, just because it's primarily used as a vehicle for > delivering porn. No. We are talking ab

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Will Newton
On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 22:44, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > These nebulous authorities also frown upon various other > things, depending on your jurisdiction -- games of chance, the > bible, games promoting violence, texts promoting freedom .. > > Descending to the lowest common denominator shal

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Maciej Dems
Patrzę w ekran, a to Michelle Konzack pisze do mnie: > > someone maintains it. To the pictures - maybe we could avoid the > > problem by making the thing theme-able, distribute a unproblematic > > version (e.g. only down to the bikini) along some other nice pictures > > (sunrise, tree loosing trees

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-12-01 18:23:47, schrieb sean finney: > then don't give your daughter sudo privileges on your debian machines, > and she can't install it! :) Too late... She is 13 and Administrator already... Had learned very fast how to 'rm -rf /' and reinstall it alone. Now its me which must keep out o

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Will Newton
On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > There are a number of locations where gambling is illegal, as > are all games of chance. That's "gambling" as in "wagering a stake on a game of cards" not gambling as in "playing cards".

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Will Newton
On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:35, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Right. We should not have games like quake, doom, or > nethack,. since they promoite murder and mayhem and eating of > corpses. So far so sarcastic. IMO if it can be demonstrated that distributing something is illegal we should think a

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:38:39PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a > > CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons. > > Agreed. then don't give your daughter sudo privileges on your debian machines, and she can't install it! :) sorry, coul

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Will Newton
On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 11:15, Ron Johnson wrote: > Well, guess what? I live in the American South, and I'd like to > give away disks to young geeks and wannabees without having to > worry about whether his/her parents or teacher would wig out. Subjective. Legal issues are one thing, subjectiv

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 09:10:30PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > The only genuinely neutral content is the output of /dev/random; all > else is subjective. What if /dev/random produce picture of hot-babe :-) [ It is possible, in theory at last. ]

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Will Newton
On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 17:12, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > We need to discuss this point and find a technical way of solving the > > first. > > erotic.debian.org It seems to me this is the sensible solution. When we could not export crypto from the US for legal reasons we created non-US. Now I

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-12-01 16:13:51, schrieb Manoj Srivastava: > > I do not like to go to prison in Iran or may be killed because I > > have such application on one of my Desktops. > > The solution is to change iran, not try to change the rest of > the world to bve implicit in the oppression. Ok, in B

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:49:18 +1100, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > However, I get the impression that giving children access to nude > pictures is generally considered wrong in a number of different > cultures and countries. In a number of countries pictures of women with their ha

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:06:13 +, Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi all, >> Hi all, I read all the thread and I noted you are forgeting a main >> problem about this package. In my point of view: First of all, it's >> a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian in which you >

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:15:16 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Personally, I don't have a problem with the package as-is -- the > pictures aren't exactly the most graphic thing that's likely to pop > up unannounced in a web-browser window, but the authorities frown on > distributin

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:42, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:01:08 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 13:26, Eric Lavarde wrote: > >> Hi again, > >> > >> perhaps to bring down the conversation to something more > >> constructive, I think w

Re: Bug#283751: ITP: fakepop -- fake pop3 server to warn users that only pop3-ssl is available

2004-12-01 Thread Josh Metzler
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 06:46 am, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041201 12:40]: > > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 22:25 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:17:33AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 11:04 +, Steve McIntyre

Re: Bug#283751: ITP: fakepop -- fake pop3 server to warn users that only pop3-ssl is available

2004-12-01 Thread Josh Metzler
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 04:59 pm, Brian May wrote: > > "Petter" == Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Petter> "connection refused" generate a support request from the > Petter> user, and increases the load on the support organisation. > Petter> The users will

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:06:18 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:30:24PM -0200, Everton da Silva Marques wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:12:21PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> > >> > Am 2004-12-01 13:16:11, schrieb Fernanda Giroleti Weiden: >> > >

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:34:34 +0100, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Am 2004-11-30 00:31:57, schrieb Thibaut VARENE: >> Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist >> >> * Package name : hot-babe >> Description : a rather erotic graphical system activity monitor >> >> hot-babe is a small graph

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:54:20 +0100, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > ??? There was a 15 years old Boy for two or three years in Iran and > he was hanged-up because he was searchin for a program, downloaded > it and it was containing a Dialer which had downloaded Erotic > pics...

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:49:18AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > However, I get the impression that giving children access to nude > pictures is generally considered wrong in a number of different > cultures and countries. > > This is different from the Bible - if you find the bible offensive you > do

Re: Bug#283751: ITP: fakepop -- fake pop3 server to warn users that only pop3-ssl is available

2004-12-01 Thread Brian May
> "Petter" == Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Petter> "connection refused" generate a support request from the Petter> user, and increases the load on the support organisation. Petter> The users will ask what the error message mean, and will Petter> have to get

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:35:04 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 21:23 -0500, David Nusinow wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 08:51:55PM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote: >> > I'm not sure, how »pornography« is defined in the US and I really >> > didn't intend to jo

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:06:12 -0500, William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 08:51:55PM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote: >> I'm not sure, how »pornography« is defined in the US and I really >> didn't intend to join your nice discussion, but could you please >> keep in mi

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:17:19 +, Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Rather than argue about morality, legality, whatever, shouldn't we > be considering this in other terms - simple usefulness? Instead of > asking "why shouldn't this go into Debian?", ask "why _should_ this > go into De

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:23:10 -0500, William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 12:31:57AM +0100, Thibaut VARENE wrote: >> Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it! > I don't think things like this belong in the main distribution. > It's funny and all, but

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:01:46 +0100, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And exhibitioning of naked women only is discrimination... It was suggested in irc to provide instead pictures of male genitalia in various stages of tumescense ... Please feel fre to contribute to

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:30:24PM -0200, Everton da Silva Marques wrote: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:12:21PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > > > Am 2004-12-01 13:16:11, schrieb Fernanda Giroleti Weiden: > > > > > > First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian > > >

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Brian May
> "Kalle" == Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kalle> The problem is that Debian is about freedom of speech. If Kalle> we start dropping packages just because they are offensive Kalle> to somebody, we are compromising that ideal. Should we drop Kalle> the Bible packages

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 04:45:27 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 12:30 +0100, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: >> El Miércoles 01 Diciembre 2004 04:22, Simon Law escribió: >> > > But we don't care about legal problems until somebody is coming >> > > to complain to

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:09:48 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > If my wife saw my son with these pictures on a disk that I gave him, > she'd take a frying pan and beat me dead. I am sure I would say the same about the bible. Hard enough to raise a child without false gods be

Bug#283859: ITP: itagalog -- A Tagalog dictionary for ispell

2004-12-01 Thread Jan Alonzo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: itagalog Version : 0.02 Upstream Author : Ramil Sagum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://borel.slu.edu/crubadan/apps.html * License : GPL Description : A Tagalog dictionary for ispell This is the Tagalog di

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:01:08 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 13:26, Eric Lavarde wrote: >> Hi again, >> >> perhaps to bring down the conversation to something more >> constructive, I think we should base decision to have something or >> not in Debian: >> 1.

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:57:07 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > In germany games must be rated for distribution to minors. Anything > that didn't pay and get itself rated is automatically 18+. > So please (NO DONT, irony) remove all games (like tetris, very > dangerous to m

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:43:24 +0100, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 01:06 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 01:58:45PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:26 +0100, Eric Lavarde w

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:58:45 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:26 +0100, Eric Lavarde wrote: >> Hi again, >> >> perhaps to bring down the conversation to something more >> constructive, I think we should base decision to have something or >> not in Debian: >

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:39:49 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > That's also beyond the scope of this discussion. which should be > entirely about the legal risks and obligations (if any) Debian > undertakes when it begins distributing material that may be deemed > pornography. -- J

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:17:37 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a > CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons. I Would be highly upset if anyone gave my kid a CD-ROM with the bible, or even vi on it. manoj -- If f

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hallo Joachim, Am 2004-12-01 21:09:26, schrieb Joachim Breitner: > Hi, > Well, maybe the user-friendlyness. I had a look (at the program, not > only the picures). The blending is pretty nice. Put aside the choise of > picutures, the program is worth having in debian as long as someone > maintain

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Brian May
> "Joe" == Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joe> So what are we going to do with it? Ignoring it, as many here Joe> seems to advocate, is pretty dumb. Bashing the USA for stupid Joe> laws doesn't solve the problem. An "Adult" debtag category Joe> might, but then do we

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 01:17, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 01:06 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 01:58:45PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:26 +0100, Eric Lavarde wrote: > > > > Hi again, > > > > > > > > perhaps to bring down t

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:33:38 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 10:32:37AM +, Tim Cutts wrote: >> >I would ask, for this reason, that the software not be included in >> >Debian main. >> >> I think this is a strong argument. But it probably also applies t

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:08:59 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > However, pornography causes significant legal problems in the US, > and probably moreso in many other countries. If I give a Debian CD > containing this software to a minor, am I distributing pornography? Hmm.

Building package creates broken .diff.gz file

2004-12-01 Thread Uwe Steinmann
Hi, I experienced a strange behaviour when I build a debian package for one of my C libraries. When I run 'dpkg-buildpackage -r fakeroot' the resulting .diff.gz file has entries like the following: --- pxlib-0.4.2.orig/debian/changelog +++ pxlib-0.4.2/debian/changelog @@ -1 +1,187 @@ -/usr/bin/gp

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 04:46:18 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Put such possibly controversial matter in contrib? No. Contrib is meant for things that depend on stuff that is not free, and is not a dumping ground for stuff yuu do not like. > Is contrib on > di

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:50:08PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Yes, hotbabe is sexist (at least in it's current incarnation - if it > included a male theme then it would only be sexually offensive to > some) Anyone who feels that hot-babe would become less sexually offensive because it included

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 19:57 +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 06:17:37PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a > > CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons. > > I'd rather live with this risk than with less freedom. Fortunately

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:50:08PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Even > though we shouldn't exclude offensive packages we have the right to > make moral judgements and try to keep the higher priorities > content-neutral. Moral judgements from a group as large and diverse as Debian are guaranteed t

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Brian Nelson
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Michael Dominok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 09:15, Brian Nelson wrote: > >> > Through SPI's presence? >> >> Well, i didn't search _that_ long but couldn't find anything on >> http://www.spi-inc.org that would give me the

Re: debian kernel 2.6.9 with selinux enabled!

2004-12-01 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:45:58PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > manoj, thank you. thank you thank you *smooch*. uh? could you please elaborate a little? ;) cheers dom -[ Domenico Andreoli, aka cavok --[ http://people.debian.org/~cavok/gpgkey.asc ---[ 3A0F 2F80 F79C 678A

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you're going to give religion credit for the anti-slavery movement, > you have to blame it for the slavers as well. Which just shows what > others in this thread have said: religion is often used to justify > whatever behaviour/belief the individual

Re: [OT] God knows what [was Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor]

2004-12-01 Thread Steve Greenland
On 01-Dec-04, 01:16 (CST), Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 01 December 2004 16:10, William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:48:48PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > > they still have not forgotten or forgiven what the crusaders did while >

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Steve Greenland
On 30-Nov-04, 11:18 (CST), Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *Most* who were Christians. Most of the people in the US were Christians. Most of the slave owners were Christians, and used the same Bible to provide justification. If you're going to give religion credit for the anti-slaver

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 01.12.2004, 15:01 -0500 schrieb Rudy Godoy: > El da 01/12/2004 a 06:28 Steve McIntyre escribio ... > I completely agree on this, what is the reason/usefulness to have a cpu > monitoring program which "main feature" is to show a naked woman (or > man)? Since there are other pro

Re: perl-tk

2004-12-01 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Carlo U. Segre in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I noticed that a number of perl packages and perl-tk in particular have > been orphaned but they do not appear on the "wnpp" list. > > Is this beacause they have not been orphaned by the Maintainer himself? Looking at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkg

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Re: Bug#283717: hasciicam: enhance Description

2004-12-01 Thread jaromil
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi Wouter, first thanks for your explanation, a bit more exhaustive, as well to Christian for his link to the GFDL debate (from another mail). of course i intend to release software free as of speech, so i am evaluating the possibility to remove the

debian kernel 2.6.9 with selinux enabled!

2004-12-01 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
manoj, thank you. thank you thank you *smooch*. l.

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Rudy Godoy
El día 01/12/2004 a 06:28 Steve McIntyre escribio ... > Rather than argue about morality, legality, whatever, shouldn't we be > considering this in other terms - simple usefulness? Instead of asking > "why shouldn't this go into Debian?", ask "why _should_ this go into > Debian?". > I completely

Re: Stress-Testing my Spam filter (Was [OT] God knows what / Re: Bug#283578: ...)

2004-12-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Thomas Bushnell BSG ... and many other wrote: > > [something about hot-babes, porn etc] Actually, I said nothing about hot-babes or porn.

Re: [OT] God knows what [was Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor]

2004-12-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm no fan of the Bush Administration's adventures, but there aren't > > all that many similarities. The current adventure is about oil, about > > Bush's fantasies that he's promoting democracy, and about domestic > > American politics, especially Bus

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Michael Dominok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 09:15, Brian Nelson wrote: > > Through SPI's presence? > > Well, i didn't search _that_ long but couldn't find anything on > http://www.spi-inc.org that would give me the Impression that this a > Organisation only open to USAsia

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:30:24PM -0200, Everton da Silva Marques wrote: > It's VERY oppressive to force hot-babe out of > Debian because of personal feelings about nudity. > It's pure anti-speech insanity leading the way > to socialism. How is this related to socialism at all ? Frank -- "Debu

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think that is the main issue here. I would like to believe that > Debian is capable of showing more respect for other people than > including hotbabe in the distribution would indicate. First, I'm not saying that I personally feel that hotbabe should

Re: Bug#283717: hasciicam: enhance Description

2004-12-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op wo, 01-12-2004 te 16:44 +0100, schreef jaromil: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:43:29PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: > > Re: jaromil in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > in case you are an arrogant person (i don't mean you are, i just don't > > > know yo

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 06:17:37PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a > CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons. I'd rather live with this risk than with less freedom.

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:34:34PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > I do not like to go to prison in Iran or may be killed > because I have such application on one of my Desktops. If you can be killed because you have such application (picture) then you are in big trouble, anyway. I like to have

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Everton da Silva Marques
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:54:20PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > There was a 15 years old Boy for two or three years in Iran and he > was hanged-up because he was searchin for a program, downloaded it > and it was containing a Dialer which had downloaded Erotic pics... Under no sane view Deb

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