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Re: python 2.2 -> python 2.3 transition

2003-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:34:12PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:49, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:44:22PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > > The negative effect for the users is that you can't upgrade python > > > while wxgtk-python is install

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Peter van Rossum
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:29:52PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > But the point is that without the key, anyone can forge mails which seem to > come from me, and thus abuse the trust my work gained me in the mind of some > DDs. > > I see this point as necessary even if not sufficient. Ok, a valid

Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-20 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Since the source goes into Debian main, keeping the sources > together means that we are distributing non-free material in Debian > main, which not only violates the social contract, it may well be > illegal (or have people who distribute deb

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stack protection

2003-08-20 Thread Russell Coker
Who is interested in stack protection? I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack protected packages for Debian. Probably the best way to do this would be to start with ssh-stack and sysklogd-stack being uploaded to experimental. I don't have time to do this, but I would like

Re: python 2.2 -> python 2.3 transition

2003-08-20 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:49, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:44:22PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > The negative effect for the users is that you can't upgrade python > > while wxgtk-python is installed so you can't try out the > > latest-and-greatest python in the meanti

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 20 Aug 2003 16:04:50 -0400, Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 14:46, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 20 Aug 2003 10:51:54 -0400, Adam C Powell IV > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Greetings, Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, >> especial

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 00:16:47 +0200, Martin Quinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mmm. If so, I really cannot understand the big deal with IDs when > signing the key. Knowing my ID is not enough to prove that I won't > upload a rootkit, and it is not even needed... I must be perticulary > dumb.

Re: ftp.gnu.org cracked

2003-08-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 07:59:13PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Since "b" has no effect in Debian anyway, it's not worth thinking about > anymore. :-) ...except to swear under our breath about upstreams who sneak in changes without bumping the version number (I personally find this very annoying).

Re: [rene@debian.org: Bug#205471: devscripts: running debuild could lead to deleting _all_ backup dirs/files on the system]

2003-08-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I do have the following four cases: > > > > It should definitely allow package-upstreamver, since that's more or less canonical. However, generalizing a bit and simply checking that the name of the directory starts with the name of the sourc

Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:03:15 -0400 (EDT), Jaldhar H Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It has source for all the modules including the non-free ones. > However the binary packages for those modules are built from > seperate source packages not this one. > The only reason for having the webmin.ori

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 20 Aug 2003 15:39:18 -0400, Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:02, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Greetings, >> >> Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially >> for newbies, what with

Re: ftp.gnu.org cracked

2003-08-20 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 20:16, Peter Karlsson wrote: > Scott James Remnant: > > > No problem, this is only a quick run -- others may find ways to improve > > this script somewhat. > > What did you use to determine which packages to check? I notice that at > least my package for GNU jwhois is mis

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Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 23:29:52 +0200, Martin Quinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > But the point is that without the key, anyone can forge mails which > seem to come from me, and thus abuse the trust my work gained me in > the mind of some DDs. So start signing your email. I'll download the

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Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:18:24AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, cobaco wrote: > > I'd agree if there had been a rewrite of kdelibs or something, but > > kde 3.1 -> 3.2 is evolutionary without big changes to what was > > already there. > > It does not take a big change to break s

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:49:44PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > What recent change in the KDE releasing schema let you think that they will > manage to get a really stable x.y.0 release [*] when it seems like it took 4 > minor releases in the 3.1 branch ? > > Naturally, no offense intended to th

Packages-arch-specific

2003-08-20 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Hello, One of my package (camstream) was removed from Packages-arch-specific more than one month ago in the CVS [1]. However, as the corresponding file on buildd.debian.org [2] is not updated, my package is still not built on architectures other than i386. Could somebody with a root access on

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:13:11AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:49:03AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > Do you have some Official Opinion(tm)[1] as the RM about what KDE, gcc, X, > > gnome versions will be in sarge? > > An educated guess would produce: [...] > XFree

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 14:46, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 20 Aug 2003 10:51:54 -0400, Adam C Powell IV said: > > > > Greetings, Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, > > especially for newbies, what with hand-editing lilo.conf or config > > Why on earth are you hand edit

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Stephen Frost
* Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Usually the sponsor looks everything over so signing is not realy > neccessary. Of cause if you have the same sponsor repeatetly he might > want to just check your signature and sponsor the changes blindly > knowing you did good work in the past.

Re: [RFC] Debian ruby policy (Re: Fw: Re: Ruby 1.8 transition plan; debian-ruby)

2003-08-20 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 12:53, Fumitoshi UKAI wrote: > Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > libtest-unit-ruby1.8 (<- libtest-unit-ruby) Actually, I now only maintain Test::Unit for Ruby 1.6. Since it became included with 1.8, akira yamada maintains that version, and when 1.8 was packaged I dropped s

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Stephen Frost
* Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:40:02AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > keyring.debian.org has only DDs in it. I think people were suggesting > > using the public keyservers. keyring.debian.org isn't a part of the > > public key servers. > > That's the pa

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Re: ftp.gnu.org cracked

2003-08-20 Thread Joey Hess
Scott James Remnant wrote: > No problem, this is only a quick run -- others may find ways to improve > this script somewhat. > !! xaos: xaos_3.0.orig.tar.gz NOT OK (e0e66a873b6d5193a79bc89345992d6b != > 5a63c3b696821e5d5d566ad9da308117) Diff shows the following differences: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/

Re: Bug#205927: ITP: eggdrop -- Advanced IRC Robot

2003-08-20 Thread Ian Eure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday August 17 2003 09:35 am, Peter Makholm wrote: > "Guilherme de S. Pastore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Package name: eggdrop > > Version : 1.6.15 > > Upstream Author : EggHeads <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * URL :

Bug#206477: ITP: libtunepimp -- MusicBrainz tagging library and simple tagger application

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Jordens
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-21 Severity: wishlist -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: libtunepimp Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Robert Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : ftp://ftp.musicbrainz.org/pub/musicbrainz/ * L

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 14:46, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 20 Aug 2003 10:51:54 -0400, Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Greetings, Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, > especially for newbies, what with hand-editing lilo.conf or config Why

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:02, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Greetings, > > Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially for > newbies, what with hand-editing lilo.conf or config files for other > bootloa

Locales in display managers (Was: Re: Locales in init scripts (about gdm bug #147091))

2003-08-20 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Ok, but /etc/default/language is not created by the locales package which does currently asks the system's default language, but saves it in /etc/environment instead. The question is: Is it ok to a display manager source /etc/environment (at least until another definition is made) into the init sc

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > > > The only problem with that is the current failure to comply to policy, > > > i.e. build from source as they should. > > > > > > > The qu

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 04:34:18PM +0200, cobaco wrote: > > KDE3.2 doesn't miss the deadline by 7 days, it misses the deadline by > > almost two months: > > > > * October 15th > >Final, last-minute, low-risk bug fixes only > > Monday September 29th, 2003: Preparing Beta1 > The HEAD branch is

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 14:25, Josh Lauricha wrote: On Wed 10:51, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > Greetings, > > Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially for > newbies, what with hand-editing lilo.conf or config files for other > bootloaders, from grub to

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Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 20 Aug 2003 10:51:54 -0400, Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Greetings, Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, > especially for newbies, what with hand-editing lilo.conf or config Why on earth are you hand editing the lilo.conf file for every kernel image

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Martin Quinson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:03:17PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:40:02AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > keyring.debian.org has only DDs in it. I think people were suggesting > > > using the public keyservers. keyring.de

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-20 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Why not? Just block binary uploads completely, and let everything get > built by the buildds. I certainly plan to do that with my own uploads. > (I've already set up my own buildds). > > I'd go one step farther and schedule a low-priority rebuild of e

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Teófilo Ruiz Suárez
El 20-ago-2003 a las 09:49:03, Adrian von Bidder escribió: Content-Description: signed data > On Tuesday 19 August 2003 08:49, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > I'm all for aggressive goals, let's aim for sometime in December -- how > > about 2003-12-01 00:00:00 UTC? > > Do you have some Official Opinio

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Martin Quinson
[answer to a private mail on the list with the permission of Christian] On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 02:53:49PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: > On [19/08/03 18:05], Martin Quinson wrote: > > point is that currently, DD is very very strict about who can upload to the > > source and the packages, but when

Re: #206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 07:53:41PM +0200, Gaetan Ryckeboer wrote: > > Not necessary. Web administrators may upload files via FTP, andspip > users never use them onto spip ? If so, the files will stay in place > in upload, instead of beeing integrated onto the spip tree at the > right place, and be

Re: Non-free software on linex [was Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003]

2003-08-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 20:13, Hans Ekbrand wrote: > There's more of it: http://www.linex.org/sources/linex/debian/linex/ > lists acroread_4.05-3, mplayer_0.90pre5-3 > flashplugin-nonfree_6.0.79-1, hsflinmodem-linex_0.5.2-1 ... and j2re, yes, I saw that afterwards... Some are quite badly packa

Re: what about ip's

2003-08-20 Thread Alan Shutko
"David Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > my first assumption is that charter sells their users email addresses. does > anyone on this list know how an unused email address that has never been > used can have spam without the ip giving the address out? Is it a fairly simple username, like dsmit

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
cobaco dijo [Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:08:28AM +0200]: > > KDE 3.1.4 (KDE 2.2 _will not_ stay in sarge!) > > kde 3.2 release is slated for 8th december[1], is there any chance we'll > wait > for it, just so the outdated kde label doesn't apply again immediately after > release? ...And then wa

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-20 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > No he wouldn't. FDL is about free documentation. :-) > > > > > Except it isn't :-) > > According to you :-) According to debian-legal consensus.

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Russell Coker wrote: > Are there any big features you expect from KDE 3.2? > Well it will be built with Qt 3.2 which has proper support of Indian languages. But if a KDE 3.2 beta or 3.1 built against Qt 3.2 goes in, that is good enough for me. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PR

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 07:13:38PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:52:42PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > Will we some day consider seriously the idea of autobuilders compiling > > > against testing those packages which do

Re: ftp.gnu.org cracked

2003-08-20 Thread Peter Karlsson
Scott James Remnant: No problem, this is only a quick run -- others may find ways to improve this script somewhat. What did you use to determine which packages to check? I notice that at least my package for GNU jwhois is missing from your list (although I know that the Debian version is correct

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > The only problem with that is the current failure to comply to policy, > i.e. build from source as they should. > The question remains is simply removing all the extra source from webmin-n.orig.tar.gz except that which is necessary to build the w

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-20 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:30:39PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote: > Quoting Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > No he wouldn't. FDL is about free documentation. :-) > > > > > Except it isn't :-) > > According to you :-) This has been covered to death already. There are a sufficient n

Re: ftp.gnu.org cracked

2003-08-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 04:25:31PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > [ Moved to debian-devel, I don't think this is relevant to private as > the GNU crack is well publicised ] It is, in general, very poor taste to make this choice for others by reposting their content from a private forum to

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Greetings, > > Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially for > newbies, what with hand-editing lilo.conf or config files for other > bootloaders, from grub to yaboot/quik, aboot, palo, you name it. Yes, > the kernel-image po

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Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > The only problem with that is the current failure to comply to policy, > > i.e. build from source as they should. > > > > The question remains is simply removing all the extra source from > web

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Martin Quinson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:08:28AM +0200, cobaco wrote: > On 2003-08-20 10:13, Chris Cheney wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:49:03AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 19 August 2003 08:49, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > > I'm all for aggressive goals, let's aim for sometime in De

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Martin Quinson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:03:32AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:23:47AM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:46:34PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > > * Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-20 10:31]: > > > > > Martin Quinson <[EMA

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 04:34:18PM +0200, cobaco wrote: > > KDE3.2 doesn't miss the deadline by 7 days, it misses the deadline by > > almost two months: > > * October 15th > >Final, last-minute, low-risk bug fixes only > Monday September 29th, 2003: Preparing Beta1 > The HEAD branch is tagg

Re: Debian 10th birthday gear

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I would be interested in two of the steins, if I can make payment without jumping through too many hoops. What are my options? manoj -- A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Josh Lauricha
On Wed 10:51, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > Greetings, > > Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially for > newbies, what with hand-editing lilo.conf or config files for other > bootloaders, from grub to yaboot/quik, aboot, palo, you name it. Yes, > the kernel-image postinst

Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:04:40 -0400 (EDT), Jaldhar H Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Ok. Lets leave aside for a moment the .debs which would go into > contrib or non-free so would have to be built seperately. What Whoa there. Are you telling me that webmin's orig.tar.gz that is in ma

Re: Debian Installation Goals (was: Happy Birthday)

2003-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
cobaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2003-08-19 21:14, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > cobaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On 2003-08-17 09:02, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > > As bad as it might be I would like to have a menu tree containing all > > > > packages that can be configured

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Martin Quinson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:40:02AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > $ LC_ALL=C gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys E145F334 > > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. > > gpg: Total number processed: 0 > > > > This is the ID of my key, available

Non-free software on linex [was Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003]

2003-08-20 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:33:12PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tuesday 19 August 2003 22:12, Martin Schulze wrote: [...] > > [2]Libranet 2.8, which is based on Debian. Richard Stallman [3]said > > he now prefers the [4]GNU/LinEx distribution over Debian because of > > non-free software on our

Bug#206429: ITP: ruby-defaults: Debian default version of ruby, libruby

2003-08-20 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: ruby-defaults Version : 1.6.8 Upstream Author : Fumitoshi UKAI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Akira Yamada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Akira Tagoh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: #206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Gaetan Ryckeboer
Le Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:34:40AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins a écrit : > > Mmm... yes and no. Some of them could be. But a user may upload files > > without using them in the application. So, the files are available, > > but unused, and unreferenced. > > That would appear to be a deficiency of the

[RFC] Debian ruby policy (Re: Fw: Re: Ruby 1.8 transition plan; debian-ruby)

2003-08-20 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
Hi, I've wrote initial draft of debian ruby policy http://pkg-ruby.alioth.debian.org/ruby-policy.html/index.html Comments are welcome. First, I'll intent to package ruby-defaults soon, which provides ruby and libruby packages in which this ruby policy documents is included, and rename current ru

Bug#206421: ITP: gaim-encryption -- Gaim plugin that provides transparent RSA encryption

2003-08-20 Thread Leo Costela
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-20 Severity: wishlist * Package name: gaim-encryption Version : 2.06 Upstream Author : Bill Tompkins * URL : http://gaim-encryption.sourceforge.net * License : GPL Description : Gaim plugin that provide

Re: what about ip's

2003-08-20 Thread John Hasler
David Smith writes: > my first assumption is that charter sells their users email addresses. > does anyone on this list know how an unused email address that has never > been used can have spam without the ip giving the address out? Did you use 'dsmith' as the user name for the charter.net account

Re: #206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:38:42PM +0200, Gaetan Ryckeboer wrote: > Le Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:26:14AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins a ?crit : > > > > Is this uploaded data recorded anywhere? In the MySQL database > > perhaps? If so, the file names can be retrieved from there for > > removal on purge.

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-20 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Andrew Suffield wrote: >> If its hoop-jumping then it must be intentional. Point is it happens. > > Who cares? We cannot build an automated system here that will be able > to stop people doing things like that. Why not? Just block binary uploads completely, and let everything get built by th

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Joel Baker
Hi, I'm Troy McClure - you may remeber me from such threads as "How do we get Debian to have a useful release timeframe", and... *er, wait*. Okay, that sillyness aside... On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:51:16AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > Better to have a hard freeze schedule, and then try to tur

Re: Bug#205471: [rene@debian.org: Bug#205471: devscripts: running debuild could lead to deleting _all_ backup dirs/files on the system]

2003-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:24:25PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) writes: > > > > > How about requiring the debian directory to have an appropriately > > > named parent (as determined by debian/changelog and deb

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, cobaco wrote: > I'd agree if there had been a rewrite of kdelibs or something, but kde 3.1 -> > 3.2 is evolutionary without big changes to what was already there. It does not take a big change to break software... e.g., openssh changed a message and the sftp kioslave broke htt

Re: what about ip's

2003-08-20 Thread Josh McKinney
On approximately Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:06:15AM -0400, David Smith wrote: > i've had cable connectivity with charter.net for more than 1 year. until > yesterday i've never had need of an email acct there. i planned on using the > address at charter when the spam at my top-10 acct became unbearable

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:52:42PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Will we some day consider seriously the idea of autobuilders compiling > > against testing those packages which do not need libraries from > > unstable to be built? > > Do you foresee an

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Martin Quinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:46:34PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > * Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-20 10:31]: > > > > Martin Quinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I just wondered if it would be possible for non-developper >

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok. Lets leave aside for a moment the .debs which would go into contrib > or non-free so would have to be built seperately. What happens if > webmin-squid has an RC bug? As Goswin said, all the webmin-* packages > will be held back from testing.

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Steve Langasek wrote: > KDE3.2 doesn't miss the deadline by 7 days, it misses the deadline by > almost two months: > Uh, you've got that turned around. October is not _missing_ the deadline, that's _beating_ it. > * October 15th >Final, last-minute, low-risk bug fixes only .. which means

Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:16:10 -0400 (EDT), Jaldhar H Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Then the source should be split in a way that the normal >> debian/rules files work and common files (like headers) stuffed >> into a -dev package you can buil

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-20 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > No he wouldn't. FDL is about free documentation. :-) > > > Except it isn't :-) According to you :-) -- Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-20 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 08:35, JÃrÃme Marant wrote: > Quoting Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Le mar 19/08/2003 Ã 23:33, Mike Hommey a Ãcrit : > > > Ok, let's google a bit, and shazaam ! > > > > > http://www.linex.org/sources/linex/debian/linex/nvidia-glx_1.0.4349-1_i386.deb > > > O

Re: ftp.gnu.org cracked

2003-08-20 Thread Scott James Remnant
[ Moved to debian-devel, I don't think this is relevant to private as the GNU crack is well publicised ] On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 14:58, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 12:35:44PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:51, Robert Millan wrote: > > > What do you s

Does anyone use barrendero, or know of an equivalent?

2003-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
Hello, The package barrendero is a candidate for removal from testing. It has two RC bugs, no response from the maintainer, and the upstream website seems to have vanished (the maintainer is also upstream). It seems like a useful tool: Description: Deletes messages on the spool dir depending on

Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-20 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Greetings, Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially for newbies, what with hand-editing lilo.conf or config files for other bootloaders, from grub to yaboot/quik, aboot, palo, you name it. Yes, the kernel-image postinst runs lilo, but lilo.conf is invariably out of date,

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: > Yep. And given that upstream offers webmin as an all-in-one solution to > web-based management needs, I don't really see any reason why they > shouldn't be kept lock-step with one another. As Debian developers our goal is to make an integrated OS whic

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:23:47AM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:46:34PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > * Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-20 10:31]: > > > > Martin Quinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I just wondered if it would be possible

Re: What doing with an uncooperative maintainer ?

2003-08-20 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 04:32:03PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > I don't see why it would be idiotic to fork the package. > If you can package this application better than the > current maintainer then go ahead and do so. Forking packages outside of Debian might or might not achieve the goals

Re: #206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Gaetan Ryckeboer
Le Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:26:14AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins a écrit : > > All right. I understand the problem. But the directories removed by > > the postrm/purge are normaly only used : > > - by user, to upload datas related to his spip installation, > Is this uploaded data recorded anywhere? In t

what about ip's

2003-08-20 Thread David Smith
i've had cable connectivity with charter.net for more than 1 year. until yesterday i've never had need of an email acct there. i planned on using the address at charter when the spam at my top-10 acct became unbearable. when i finally got my log-in info for the charter acct. i logged in and

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Brian May wrote: > When Jaldhar takes about dependancies, I assume he means normal > "Depends", not "Build-Depends"??? > Correct. [...] > Source package has the following files (note: this is called a "source > package" not a "binary package"): > > webmin_1.100.orig.tar.gz

Re: #206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 01:45:09PM +0200, Gaetan Ryckeboer wrote: > > Package: spip > > Version: 1.6.0-2 > > Severity: normal > > > > The prerm script blindly deletes the following directories and all > > subdirectories: > > > >/var/cache/spip > >/usr/share/spip/ecrire/upload > >/usr/

UniteU's AntiVirus scan detected a virus in a message you sent to %2

2003-08-20 Thread nortonsadmin
Recipient of the infected attachment: DC3, UniteU\Mailbox Store (DC3), Paige Obrien/Inbox Subject of the message: Re: Details One or more attachments were intercepted and deleted Attachment document_9446.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus [EMAIL PROTECTED] was found.

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-08-20 15:17, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > You're trying to say that it's impossible for an organization to install > some thousands of X terminals that all run KDE (which, of course, is > installed on the server)? not what I'm trying to say >Or

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:48:51PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > There were pretty major changes between KDE 3 and KDE 3.1. As a Debian > user, I'd be rather miffed if a new version of KDE came out within a > week of sarge being released ... on the other hand, if sarge is to be > frozen in a cou

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:49:33AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:49:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Also make sure to include some leg room if you depend on packages that > > have a tendency to be buggy (glibc, for example). > The new glibc has already stalled the p

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-20 Thread Stephen Frost
* Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > $ LC_ALL=C gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys E145F334 > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. > gpg: Total number processed: 0 > > This is the ID of my key, available from www.keyserver.net and signed by 2 > DD. Did I mess something up ? key

Re: Bug#205471: [rene@debian.org: Bug#205471: devscripts: running debuild could lead to deleting _all_ backup dirs/files on the system]

2003-08-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I really like this idea, thank you! I will accept directory names Thanks. :-) > matching the regexp /^$package(-.*)?$/ - does that seem reasonable? Yep, though I might change the * to a +. -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debi

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