Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from

2003-07-31 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 12:36:52AM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: > If you are both a DD and upstream, why didn't you package it yourself? Because he's also a troll.

Bug#203712: ITP: irqbalance -- Balances irq's for SMP systems

2003-07-31 Thread Eric Dorland
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-31 Severity: wishlist * Package name: irqbalance Version : 0.6 Upstream Author : Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/irqbalance/ * License : OSL 1.1 Description

XD2 for debian woody

2003-07-31 Thread Roberto Majadas
Hi debian-devel : I'm a board member of hispalinux [1] , and actually we are working very hard on metadistros project. This project [1] will be a perfect platform for develop cumstomizated debian distros. Now , we are making the XD2 debian packages for integrate them in the metadistros project. Th

Re: New virtual package: myspell-dictionary?

2003-07-31 Thread Chris Waters
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 07:44:06PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > "Packages MUST NOT use virtual package names (except privately, amongst > a cooperating group of packages) unless they have been agreed upon and > appear in this list." Note that the exception ("except privately...") is large enoug

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from

2003-07-31 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from [Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:48:41PM -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > The idea that valuable Free Software for an important Web standard > isn't available in Debian is unconscionable. If you are bo

Re: Bug#203701: RFP: umbrello -- UML editor and modeller

2003-07-31 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 31 July 2003 23:11, Daniel Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: umbrello > * URL or Web page : http://uml.sourceforge.net/index.php > > There is an unstable .deb on the homepage bu

Bug#203701: RFP: umbrello -- UML editor and modeller

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel Martins
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: umbrello Version : 1.1.1 stable 1.2 and 2 unstable Upstream Author : * URL or Web page : http://uml.sourceforge.net/index.php * License : GPL Description : UML editor and modeller Umbrello UML Modeller is a Unified

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Alan Shutko
Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So am I. To bad it isn't lpr compatible at all (at least not > lprng-lpr). Well, lprng isn't lpr... but if there are clienty things you want, you could probably use lprng's clients with CUPS's lpr server. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Cyrille! You wrote: > I'm mostly using its lpr-compatible command-line interface. So am I. To bad it isn't lpr compatible at all (at least not lprng-lpr). -- Kind regards, ++ | Bas Zoetekouw | GPG key: 0644fab

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Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Joerg Wendland
Fabio Massimo Di Nitto, on 2003-07-31, 21:04, you wrote: > nice to start together. If you force overlapping days than you force > people to choose something when there is no reason to and noone can be in > two places at the same time ;) Did Joey still not manage to implement fork(2)? SCNR, Joerg

Bug#203686: ITP: hawhaw -- a toolkit to create universal mobile applications

2003-07-31 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-31 Severity: wishlist * Package name: hawhaw Version : 5.0.0 Upstream Author : Norbert Huffschmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.hawhaw.de/ * License : LGPL Description : a PHP toolkit to create

Bug#203687: ITP: hawxy -- a script that makes PHP-enabled webservers to HAWHAW proxies

2003-07-31 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-31 Severity: wishlist * Package name: hawxy Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Norbert Huffschmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.hawhaw.de * License : GPL Description : a script that makes PHP-en

Re: Current linux console screen blanking period?

2003-07-31 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 16:07, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I know it is possible to use 'setterm -blank ' to change the > current screen saver timeout value in the linux console. But is it > possible to get the current value out of the console? > > I want to disable the screen saver while some tas

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Jesus Climent wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 06:29:27AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > > > > Some of us do not want/cannot go to linuxtag, but we could be in vienna > > > already friday evening or saturday morning. > > > > Please no. Do not schedule overlapping e

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 03:38:55PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I believe it would be a good idea if the default print system in the > next release of Debian (Sarge) is changed to CUPS. CUPS is a more > complete, more userfriendly and RFC complient printing system. FWIW, I've had very good

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-07-31 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Kemp wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:55:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > I'd like to see us move all of our setgid games (except, perhaps, > > nethack) away from using global score files by default. > > I think that should be a good option, but I can see several > games that migh

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-07-31 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 06:37:53PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:55:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > I also think it would be a good idea for policy to require all > > setuid/gid bit grants to go through this or another list for peer > > review, much as pre-depends are supp

New virtual package: myspell-dictionary?

2003-07-31 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, I forgot that doing before, so forgive me sending this mail now and not earlier... ;) "Packages MUST NOT use virtual package names (except privately, amongst a cooperating group of packages) unless they have been agreed upon and appear in this list." OK, as the procedure describes, here I am

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-07-31 Thread Steve Kemp
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:55:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > I'd like to see us move all of our setgid games (except, perhaps, > nethack) away from using global score files by default. I think that should be a good option, but I can see several games that might suffer by it. I'm loath to

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Evan Prodromou
> "PM" == Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Me> I've used the script to promote freedom. PM> How the hell does you promote freedom by removing stylesheets PM> from html? It's amazing, isn't it? Anyways, the W3C thought the tool was important enough to list on their CSS s

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-07-31 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Kemp wrote: > A long time ago[1] I asked if there was a list of all the setuid/setgid > binaries contained in the previous Debian stable release. > > As there still isn't such a list I've created one and placed it online > with a simple search form. > > (This is the list that my re

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-07-31 Thread Steve Kemp
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 05:30:11PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > If you're just scanning for binaries with s bits set, then you'll > probably miss all the ones that use whatever that tool was > (suidmanager?) that was used by some packages before we had > dpkg-statoverride. Yes I know that I

Re: Bug#203639: ITP: cpudyn -- CPU dynamic frequency control

2003-07-31 Thread Celso González
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 06:01:44PM +0200, CÃdric Delfosse wrote: > > I don't understand why a cpufreq patch is needed for kernel. With a > recent ACPI (like in 2.4.22), you can change CPU performance (for a P4, > I don't know for PPC) like this: > > Why is a cpufreq patch needed for P4 processor

Re: Bug#203639: ITP: cpudyn -- CPU dynamic frequency control

2003-07-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 06:01:44PM +0200, Cédric Delfosse wrote: > I don't understand why a cpufreq patch is needed for kernel. With a > recent ACPI (like in 2.4.22), you can change CPU performance (for a P4, > I don't know for PPC) like this: Well, quite apart from anything else ACPI isn't going

Re: Bug#203639: ITP: cpudyn -- CPU dynamic frequency control

2003-07-31 Thread Cédric Delfosse
Le jeu 31/07/2003 à 17:13, Celso Gonzalez a écrit : > Package: wnpp > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-31 > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: cpudyn > Version : 0.4.0 > Upstream Author : Ricardo Galli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://mnm.uib.es/~gallir/c

Bug#203639: ITP: cpudyn -- CPU dynamic frequency control

2003-07-31 Thread Celso Gonzalez
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-31 Severity: wishlist * Package name: cpudyn Version : 0.4.0 Upstream Author : Ricardo Galli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://mnm.uib.es/~gallir/cpudyn/ * License : GPL Description : CPU dynamic frequ

Current linux console screen blanking period?

2003-07-31 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
I know it is possible to use 'setterm -blank ' to change the current screen saver timeout value in the linux console. But is it possible to get the current value out of the console? I want to disable the screen saver while some task is being done, and then enable it again with the original value

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Josef Spillner
On Thursday 31 July 2003 11:27, Sam Hocevar wrote: >And HTML makes it even harder since very few pages are valid, but > that DeCSS utility uses only regexes anyway. Technically, using RegExps for CSS will not only become maintenance hell, but would also limit the usability of such a script fo

Next time the Gentoo argument starts...

2003-07-31 Thread Ross Burton
Someone did some rather rough timing of Debian vs Mandrake vs Gentoo: http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=227&page=1 Not the best benchmarking, but at least there are numbers. :) Ross -- Ross Burton m

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:17:01PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: > http://www.steve.org.uk/cgi-bin/debian/index.cgi If you're just scanning for binaries with s bits set, then you'll probably miss all the ones that use whatever that tool was (suidmanager?) that was used by some packages before we

Re: package name change (moviemate -> mediamate)

2003-07-31 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:46:43AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > The old DB works fine after the upgrade against it. The questions > > are. Whether removing the configuration files (/etc/moviemate) is a > > taboo, even though the configuration is migrated (/e

Re: package name change (moviemate -> mediamate)

2003-07-31 Thread Ingo Saitz
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:42:32AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > If you make the dummy package of extra priority and section: oldlibs, > the package will be there only until the user runs deborphan to remove > obsolete libraries. Well oldlibs is for libraries, no? And debfoster can automatically f

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Martin List-Petersen dijo [Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 08:02:05AM +0200]: > Actually the bustour from Stockholm to Copenhagen is 8 hours and it is cheaper > than any low price airline (38 EUR, if you are max. 25, it's actually 31 EUR). > It's about 670 km. > > I know of no low cost airline that can match

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Cyrille Chepelov
Le Thu, Jul 31, 2003, à 03:09:15PM +0100, Ross Burton a écrit: > On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 15:00, Cyrille Chepelov wrote: > > if only gnome-cups-manager wasn't leaking memory like a CPU leaks > > heat...) > > Terribly sorry about this. It's only gnome-cups-icon which leaks like > mad, so you can kill

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 15:00, Cyrille Chepelov wrote: > if only gnome-cups-manager wasn't leaking memory like a CPU leaks > heat...) Terribly sorry about this. It's only gnome-cups-icon which leaks like mad, so you can kill that and use eggcups instead (looks almost identical). I'll be removing e

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:52:04PM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:44, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > The last time I tried to use CUPS, I found it to be so user friendly > > that I couldn't get it to do anything useful. Very pretty, less > > functional; and the documentation wa

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Antony Gelberg
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 03:38:55PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > > > I believe it would be a good idea if the default print system in the > > next release of Debian (Sarge) is changed to CUPS. CUPS is a more > > complete, more userfriendly and RFC complient printing system. > > > > htt

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Cyrille Chepelov
Le Thu, Jul 31, 2003, à 09:44:17AM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz a écrit: > The last time I tried to use CUPS, I found it to be so user friendly > that I couldn't get it to do anything useful. Very pretty, less > functional; and the documentation was entirely inadequate. Well, while what you describe

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:44, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > The last time I tried to use CUPS, I found it to be so user friendly > that I couldn't get it to do anything useful. Very pretty, less > functional; and the documentation was entirely inadequate. > > On the other hand, while lprng was anythi

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 03:38:55PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > I believe it would be a good idea if the default print system in the > next release of Debian (Sarge) is changed to CUPS. CUPS is a more > complete, more userfriendly and RFC complient printing system. > > http://www.cups

CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
I believe it would be a good idea if the default print system in the next release of Debian (Sarge) is changed to CUPS. CUPS is a more complete, more userfriendly and RFC complient printing system. http://www.cups.org> Any reason not to change the default?

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Citat Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:25:24AM +0200, Oliver Kurth wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:44:26AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > But trains would be much more expensive, i think, than a common (full) > > > bus. > > > Probably yes. Of course it depe

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Citat Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:22:34AM +0200, Oliver Kurth wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:48:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:29:06AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:12:08AM +0200, Amaya wro

Re: A success story with apt and rsync

2003-07-31 Thread Otto Wyss
> From time to time the question arises on different forums whether it is > possible to efficiently use rsync with apt-get. Recently there has been a > thread here on debian-devel and it was also mentioned in Debian Weekly News > June 24th, 2003. However, I only saw different small parts of a huge

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Riku Voipio
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:25:24AM +0200, Oliver Kurth wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:44:26AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > But trains would be much more expensive, i think, than a common (full) > > bus. > Probably yes. Of course it depends on your preference, and what you can > afford. Tra

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Peter Makholm
Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > PM> How the entertainment industry manages to handle their > PM> copyright has nothing to do with free software. > > You know nothing, pink boy. I know a lot of thing and I know that it is impossible for some people to differenciate between fre

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Evan Prodromou
> "PM" == Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: PM> How the entertainment industry manages to handle their PM> copyright has nothing to do with free software. You know nothing, pink boy. ~ESP -- Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Peter Makholm
Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've used the script to promote freedom. How the hell does you promote freedom by removing stylesheets from html? -- Peter Makholm | Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your [EMAIL PROTECTED] |pants and

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jonathan Walther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > 4 hours to get somewhere is just an enjoyable Sunday drive. Not on german Autobhanen... :-). And especially if this happens during the week.

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-07-31 Thread Steve Kemp
A long time ago[1] I asked if there was a list of all the setuid/setgid binaries contained in the previous Debian stable release. As there still isn't such a list I've created one and placed it online with a simple search form. (This is the list that my recent spate of bug reporting has

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Evan Prodromou
> "SL" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SL> Since you're the upstream author, I'll ask: have you ever SL> actually used this script yourself? If so... why? :) (And is SL> the stripping of class/id attributes a bug?) I've used the script to promote freedom. For that

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Nick Bannon
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 10:52:51PM -0700, Jonathan Walther wrote: > You haven't lived in North America, have you. An 8 hour drive is easy. > I can't even get into the next province in 8 hours; it takes 16 hours. [...] Yeah, we've got cars like that too. Nick. (from Perth, Western Australia, "the

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sven Luther wrote: > But trains would be much more expensive, i think, than a common (full) > bus. Sure, if you compare everybody-pays-for-their-own-train-ticket with everybody-pays-their-share-of-a-bus. I expect the train fare to be somewhat more competitive if you get a group ticket. --

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Martin Schulze [Thu, Jul 31 2003, 08:26:53AM]: > WhereverHeim... *lol* > > > Sunday evening : folks travel to Debcamp in Vienna, Austria > > Monday-Friday : Debcamp > > Saturday, Sunday : Debconf > > Sounds good. Now LinuxTag manages to be at the end of the uni semester > and Debcamp

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | > sed -e > 's%\(]*rel="stylesheet"[^>]*>\|.*\|\(style\|class\|id\)="[^"]*"\)%%g' > > it doesn't handle

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030731 11:20]: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:22:34AM +0200, Oliver Kurth wrote: > > There is also a direct night train, takes 9:30 hours. Just look at > > http://www.bahn.de. > But trains would be much more expensive, i think, than a common (full) > bus. Prices

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:44:26AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:22:34AM +0200, Oliver Kurth wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:48:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:29:06AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:12:

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Sam Hocevar | On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | > |And what is the point of confusing our users and cluttering the package/ | > | executable namespace with a useless program that could be replaced with | > | a sed one-liner? | > | > oh? what sed one-liner would that be? |

Re: package name change (moviemate -> mediamate)

2003-07-31 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > I was thinking about the dummy package approach, but then the dummy > package would just hang around indefinitely, right? If you make the dummy package of extra priority and section: oldlibs, the package will be there only until the user runs deborph

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | I expect anyone with minor common sense and minor sed/ > | awk/perl/whatever practice to understand the triviality of that program. > > It's not possible to parse all valid SGML using regexes, iirc. And HTML makes it even harder since very few

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > |And what is the point of confusing our users and cluttering the package/ > | executable namespace with a useless program that could be replaced with > | a sed one-liner? > > oh? what sed one-liner would that be? That trivial one, for instan

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Keith Dunwoody
Sam Hocevar wrote: I object to this ITP. Not very strongly, but I still object. I think it's a wonderful idea to have a decss package in Debian. If Debian cannot distribute the decss that allows Debian users to view DVD movies (yet), then distributing this one is a good alternative, I'd say.

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Sam Hocevar | On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Emile van Bergen wrote: | | > >And what is the point of confusing our users and cluttering the package/ | > > executable namespace with a useless program that could be replaced with | > > a sed one-liner? | > | > If it's so easy to type in, I'd have ex

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:22:34AM +0200, Oliver Kurth wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:48:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:29:06AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:12:08AM +0200, Amaya wrote: > > > > Martin List-Petersen dijo: > > > > >

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Emile van Bergen wrote: > >And what is the point of confusing our users and cluttering the package/ > > executable namespace with a useless program that could be replaced with > > a sed one-liner? > > If it's so easy to type in, I'd have expected it in your response.

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:48:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:29:06AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:12:08AM +0200, Amaya wrote: > > > Martin List-Petersen dijo: > > > > Something like that sounds sane. It gives even the possibility > > > >

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Jesus Climent
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 06:29:27AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > > Some of us do not want/cannot go to linuxtag, but we could be in vienna > > already friday evening or saturday morning. > > Please no. Do not schedule overlapping events. People interested in both > than will be in tro

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Jesus Climent
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:18:34AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Sven Luther > > It was very nice to have a few guinea pigs to test the organization > with at this year's Debcamp, since making changes when you have a few > people is a lot less work than making changes with 50-60 people. This

Re: package name change (moviemate -> mediamate)

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:47:53PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > I was thinking about the dummy package approach, but then the dummy > package would just hang around indefinitely, right? If the new package replaces all files in the dummy package, dpkg removes it automatically. But cf. #202997.

Re: package name change (moviemate -> mediamate)

2003-07-31 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > The old DB works fine after the upgrade against it. The questions are. > Whether removing the configuration files (/etc/moviemate) is a taboo, > even though the configuration is migrated (/etc/mediamate). Leave it there. What if the user wants to downgrade? -- Mat

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:29:06AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:12:08AM +0200, Amaya wrote: > > Martin List-Petersen dijo: > > > Something like that sounds sane. It gives even the possibility > > > organising a "shuttle"-bus or something likewise from LinuxTag to > > >

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Josip Rodin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Please, let's decide based on facts rather than some hopelessly obsolete > sympathy for the so-called Eastern Europe(TM). Loooks like I've hit some sensitive point here, which I'm really sorry for. I probably shouldn't have specifically mentioned so-call

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Sven Luther [...] | What is the problem with that ? This is exactly the way the | debcamp/debconf in Oslo was scheduled. Debcamp is a somewhat informal | thing, and it is no problem that some people already get there on friday | evening, those that don't want/cant/wahetver attend LinuxTag. I

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Peter Makholm
Emile van Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As soon as we can package the real thing, we should probably rename the > HTML/CSS decss as decss-html and release the real decss using a new > epoch. Whit even more confusion to our users for a weak political statement whit no real relation to the

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:03:00AM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > As soon as we can package the real thing, we should probably rename the > HTML/CSS decss as decss-html and release the real decss using a new > epoch. No need, the real decss will probably be a library or something such. Friendl

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 06:29:27AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Jesus Climent wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:22:57AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > Quoting Karsten Merker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > > > Anyway, that could give the following schedule 

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:01:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:48:55PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:38:12 -0500 > > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:56:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > >

Re: package name change (moviemate -> mediamate)

2003-07-31 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >you should Conflict, Replace, and provide MovieMate. This will ensure a >smooth transition. You instead (may) want to upload a package called >moviemate which is a dummy package that depends on MediaMate. You should do both, with the Con

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Martin Schulze
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Yes, that's what I thought about initially, too. Joey? When does > LT 2k5 happen to be? ,) If I only knew... Pester me when you need to know the date. It's not yet decided but several dates are under discussion already. Regards, Joey -- In the beginning was

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Martin Schulze
Christian Perrier wrote: > > > But close to it would be a good idea also. Dunno whether LinuxTag > > > happens on a week-end or during the week, but it would be ideal to > > > have Debconf one week after LinuxTag (so that people attending LT > > > could come at DebCamp in the between). > > > > Lin

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Regards, Martin List-Petersen martin at list-petersen dot dk -- The surest protection against temptation is cowardice. -- Mark Twain Citat Jonathan Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:29:06AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > >> That sound so appealing that

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-07-31 Thread Jonathan Walther
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:29:06AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: That sound so appealing that I would even consider also attendig LinuxTag :-) Keep in mind, this is 730km and will take up to 8-12h Wien is not exactly close to western europe. You haven't lived in North America, have you. An 8 hour

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