Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-24 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:32:17 -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 01:47:55PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > > > At 21 Jun 2003 00:27:18 +0200, > > Mathieu Roy wrote: > > > RedHat provide glibc for i386, i586 and i686. Why doesn't Debian > > > provide several packages for i*86 w

Bug#198706: ITP: libebml -- Extensible Binary Meta Language access library

2003-06-24 Thread Sam Hocevar
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libebml Version : CVS Upstream Author : Steve Lhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.matroska.org/ * License : dual GPL/QPL Description : Extensible Binary Me

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Marek Habersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2. Modify fakeroot to check the kernel version, the type of fs on which it > is currently working and have it issue a sysctl to enable > restricted_chown. It looks better than #1 but it might incurr Er, is this even possible as an ordinary

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > During some of the discussions lately on debian-devel another usage of > the changelog has risen interest: > > * New upstream release (closes: #123, #124, #125) > > This has also raised some discussions. The thing is this: If #123, > #124 and #125 ar

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:17:36PM -0400, Colin Walters scribbled: > On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 18:34, Marek Habersack wrote: > > > 5. Influence the XFS/kernel maintainers to change the default value of > > restrict_chown to enabled. > > I think they really should do this. Having people be abl

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Dan Jacobson may or may not have written... > I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the > package justice by giving an adequate description. "I have here a 20K package. Should it have a 1/3-line description?" ;-) -- | Darren Salt | nr. Ashington, | l

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-24 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 18:34, Marek Habersack wrote: > 5. Influence the XFS/kernel maintainers to change the default value of > restrict_chown to enabled. I think they really should do this. Having people be able to give away files is something that you usually *don't* want by default.

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > My logic was that, from the basic system, Maildir mailboxes are no > > use. > > Can I have a bit of the weed you are smoking? Seems to be good. They're pine needles. I really do need to get off them, they're keeping my brain in the 70's...

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:07:46AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Anyway, one liner "snob" descriptions just have to go. > > $ apt-cache show emacs21 > Description: The GNU Emacs editor > GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting text editor. > > Oops, I see, it is self-documenting. that's act

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Dan Jacobson
>> avg. bytes per description lines 66321.8 A> Is that just a meaningless number, or is there actually a correlation A> between package size and description length? Somebody with statistics experience might go further and see if little packages have big descriptions and visa versa etc. Anyway, o

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:15:42AM -0700, Keegan Quinn wrote: > On Tuesday 24 June 2003 10:59 am, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:44:51AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > > > Tell me when you upload this, so I can file an rc bug against it, for > > > modifying other pac

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Brian May
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 08:19:35AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > You could start by telling us what maildirmake is supposed to do. Why > do we need it? Any program I know of which can handle Maildir is not > only capable of storing messages in Maildir folders but also of > generating them. This i

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:15:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:41:59PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:17:58PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > > > the worst culprits are usually sets of binary packages from the one > > > > source file > >

Re: EPSON appreciates your feedback by June 30, '03 - Debian

2003-06-24 Thread Farideh Sherbaf
Dear Julien, Thank you for responding to my email. We understand the existing issues which you have explained below and to make this more clear is that EPSON Kowa handles the License agreement. We have nothing to do with the licensing agreement for the Image Scan! for Linux. We're sure that the

Re: Developer Accessible Hurd Machine

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:30:26PM +0200, Mario Lang wrote: > I think such a machine would be valuable to increase the quality > of the Hurd port overall. Maybe. But also keep in mind that porting to GNU/Hurd is a bit more complicated than porting to just another Linux architecture, because of s

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 06:21:18PM -0400, Jim Penny scribbled: [snip] > > > > > Description field is inappropriate, use something like: > > > > > > > > > Description: A GNU/autoconf alternative. > > > > > > Try "an alternative to GNU autoconf" or "a substitute for GNU > > > > autoconf", to avoid

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:52:20PM -0500, Steve Langasek scribbled: > > Try "an alternative to GNU autoconf" or "a substitute for GNU autoconf", > > to avoid confusion with Debian's alternatives syste

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:14:56PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis scribbled: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How > > about "A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Aut

kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
Hey list, Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). The result is that the parts which don't run under fakeroot - e.g. debian/rules won't be able to write to the debian/packagen

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:15:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > Not all of it, but you can't object to duplicating a single sentence saying > > what it is. > > When the sentence in question is the one that goes in the short > description, and already fills the a

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:25:03PM -0700, Neil Spring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > dpkg-souce(1) implies that substitution variables are > limited to a single line (which seems poorly suited to long > descriptions). Then as long as the shared part is a single paragraph you should be

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Jim Penny
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:52:20PM -0500, Steve Langasek scribbled: > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De > > > Vitis wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How > about "A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf"? Sorry for my previous reply to this message, your suggestion is definitely good.

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How > about "A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf"? I see your point, but your suggestion is still too long: it should be rephrased to

Old bugs related to translated debconf templates

2003-06-24 Thread Denis Barbier
Hi, Here is a list of bugs older than a year; most of them are related to translated debconf templates, so fixing them is trivial and I might NMU some of these packages soon. #BRDate Package Maintainer 103324 (03 Jul 2001) diald Jeff Licquia 106150 (21 Jul 2001) ni

Bug#198682: ITP: kernel-patch-2.4-low-latency -- Reduces the latency of the Linux kernel

2003-06-24 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: kernel-patch-2.4-low-latency Upstream Author : Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/schedlat.html * License : GPL Description : Reduces

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:52:20PM -0500, Steve Langasek scribbled: > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis > > wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > >

Re: Developer Accessible Hurd Machine

2003-06-24 Thread Mario Lang
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Benj. Mako Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some time ago, Martin Schulze pointed out that there is no developer > accessible Hurd machine available. > > I am happy to coordinate the donation of hardware for this if it is > this something that you

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-24 Thread Neil Spring
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 03:25:23PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > Use ${description}, and debian/substvars. This is already supported. > RTFM. is there FM in the form of an example package? or can you think of a method of finding packages that use this technique? dpkg-souce(1) implies that substitut

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:41:59PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:17:58PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > > the worst culprits are usually sets of binary packages from the one > > > source file > > > which have package descriptions like libfoo-dev = "dev files for libf

Re: Update re: read-only root filesystem

2003-06-24 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 01:12:20PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > Some progress has been made toward the goal of making > Debian easier to use with a read-only root filesystem. > Action has been taken to remove variable files from /etc/, > or at least to make it possible to do so locally, in th

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:52:20PM -0500, Steve Langasek scribbled: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > [...] > > > Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-24 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Benj. Mako Hill wrote: >>>I don't think that filing a bug saying that "Your extended package >>>description does not meet Debian policy requirements. Please consider >>>writing 4-5 lines to give sysadmins an idea what your package can do >>>for them." means asking too much from a Debian maintainer

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 01:23:25PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Alright, this happened far too often lately to be ignored. This must > stop, pretty please. The developers-reference[1] isn't written just for > fun. [snip] /me stands up _ _ _ _

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:17:58PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > the worst culprits are usually sets of binary packages from the one source > > file > > which have package descriptions like libfoo-dev = "dev files for libfoo", > > libfoo-doc = "documention for libfoo", and libfoo = "runtime

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:46:52PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis > scribbled: > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > [...] > > > Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternativ

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-24 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Josip Rodin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 06:41:21PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > >>>I'd say that writing a meaningful package description is certainly the >>>duty of the individual package maintainer. A package maintainer should >>>usually have an idea of what his/her package is good for, w

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > [...] > > Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to > > GNU/autoconf (configure scripts). > > Description field is inappropri

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis scribbled: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > [...] > > Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to > > GNU/autoconf (configure scripts). > > Description field is inapp

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: [...] > Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf > (configure scripts). Description field is inappropriate, use something like: Description: A GNU/autoconf alternative. ciao, -- Luca - De Whis

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-24 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 06:41:21PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Johannes Rohr wrote: > > I'd say that writing a meaningful package description is certainly the > > duty of the individual package maintainer. A package maintainer should > > usually have an idea of what his/her package is good for,

Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: pmk Version : 0.4.5 Upstream Author : Damien Couderc & Xavier Santolaria * URL : http://premk.sf.net/ * License : BSD Description : The pmk project aims to be an alt

favicon resource

2003-06-24 Thread Henning Moll
Hi! I was just looking for a 'open use' debian favicon. But i can't find it on http://www.debian.org/logos/index.en.html Is it ok to use the resource from http://www.debian.org/favicon.ico ? Shouldn't it also be published on the logo page? Regards Henning

Re: advise for packaging duali "arabic spell checker"

2003-06-24 Thread Mohammed Sameer
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:09:25AM -0700, Keegan Quinn wrote: > On Sunday 22 June 2003 12:48 am, Mohammed Sameer wrote: > > i was thinking about splitting duali itself into 2 packages: > > 1- duali "the main dictionary" > > 2- duali-dev "contain the script" > > duali-data build-depends on duali-dev

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
I've been meaning to write this for a while. I wrote up a procecure and I may have even posted it. I include files indicated by cruft in my backups. I'm also looking at checking md5sums and atimes to help decide if backups of files like conf files is neccisary or if they're just the defaults from t

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 10:59 am, Emile van Bergen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:44:51AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > > Tell me when you upload this, so I can file an rc bug against it, for > > modifying other packages conffiles. > > *g* > > 5 serious replies already -- sorry Adam, I'm

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:44:51AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > Package: wnpp > > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-24 > > Severity: wishlist > > > > * Package name: debbackup > > Version : 0.1 > > Upstream Author : Daniel Sto

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > * Package name: debbackup > > > > - installing/updating required packages, restoring configuration files, > > and more. > > Tell me when you upload this, so I can file an rc bug against it, for > modifying other packages conff

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 06:41:21PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > I'd say that writing a meaningful package description is certainly the > > duty of the individual package maintainer. A package maintainer should > > usually have an idea of what his/her package is good for, while Javier > > would

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Brett Cundal
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:44:51AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: > [snip] > > debbackup is a supplemental, Debian-specific, backup program. It backs > > up only what is needed to restore from a fresh install, with data > > recovered - package information (incl

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:56:03PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > the worst culprits are usually sets of binary packages from the one source > file > which have package descriptions like libfoo-dev = "dev files for libfoo", > libfoo-doc = "documention for libfoo", and libfoo = "runtime files for fo

Re: EPSON appreciates your feedback by June 30, '03 - Debian

2003-06-24 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi Farideh, On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 04:15:25PM -0700, Farideh Sherbaf wrote: > Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Farideh Sherbaf and I > am your contact for EPSON Worldwide Developer Relations for scanners > and All-In-One (Multifunction) products. The EPSON Developer > Relations

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:44:51AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-24 > > Severity: wishlist > > > > * Package name: debbackup > > Version : 0.1 > > Upstream Author : Daniel Stone <[EMAI

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mar 24/06/2003 à 18:44, Adam Heath a écrit : > Tell me when you upload this, so I can file an rc bug against it, for > modifying other packages conffiles. In the meantime, you can still file RC bugs against all text editors that allow to modify conffiles. Hint: maybe this package won't modify

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Andreas Barth
* Adam Heath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030624 18:50]: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-24 > > Severity: wishlist > > > > * Package name: debbackup > > Version : 0.1 > > Upstream Author : Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-24 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Johannes Rohr wrote: > I'd say that writing a meaningful package description is certainly the > duty of the individual package maintainer. A package maintainer should > usually have an idea of what his/her package is good for, while Javier > would probably have to spend a lot more time to figure th

Re: EPSON appreciates your feedback by June 30, '03 - Debian

2003-06-24 Thread Farideh Sherbaf
Dear Matt, Thank you for responding to my email. I will use Julien as scanner contact person. However, if possible I appreciate if I could also obtain your signature info for our database. Best regards, Farideh - Original Message - From: "Matt Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Faride

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: > Package: wnpp > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-24 > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: debbackup > Version : 0.1 > Upstream Author : Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.trinity.unimelb.edu.au/~dsto

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 11:51, Daniel Stone wrote: > Package: wnpp > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-24 > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: debbackup > Version : 0.1 Version 0.1... How much of it does already work? How much is sid specific and won't work on woody/sarge?

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 01:47:55PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > At 21 Jun 2003 00:27:18 +0200, > Mathieu Roy wrote: > > RedHat provide glibc for i386, i586 and i686. Why doesn't Debian > > provide several packages for i*86 when the package can be optimized a > > lot depending on the CPU type? >

Re: no freshness dating inside Packages.gz

2003-06-24 Thread Bill Allombert
Martin Schulze wrote: > Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:29:14PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > He wants to know when a particular package was last updated, > > > without > > > having to download it and examine the gzip time stamp and/or > > > changelog. > > > > It is unfortun

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Alexander Wirt
Am Die, 2003-06-24 um 03.46 schrieb Matthew Palmer: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Now I'm wondering about it even more. IMHO `maildirmake' is _very_ > > necessary for any mail and as it seems to be only a 2-line-shell-script > > why it isn't included anywhere and anyway in

Re: no freshness dating inside Packages.gz

2003-06-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 03:14:26PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:29:14PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > He wants to know when a particular package was last updated, without > > > having to download it and examine the gzip time stamp and/or chang

Re: C++ & Java IDE

2003-06-24 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Tollef, * Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >* Jan Schulz >| sources.list. Unfortunatelly I don't have that much webspace to do >| a woody backport myself... >deb http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/ >deb-src http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/ Was more meant to supply a eclipse backport for woody. :) My web

Re: no freshness dating inside Packages.gz

2003-06-24 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin Schulze wrote: > Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:29:14PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > He wants to know when a particular package was last updated, without > > > having to download it and examine the gzip time stamp and/or changelog. > > > > It is unfortunate, that the

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:10:09PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:56:42AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > Fellas, looking in the Packages files, some big packages have little > > descriptions, some little packages have big descriptions, > > and this package description w

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Stephen Frost
* Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the > package justice by giving an adequate description. The description is adequate. The size of the package has nothing to do with it. > The Packages file could very well be the source

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Stephen Frost
* Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I was hoping large package developers would write longer descriptions. Too bad. The two are not, should not, and should never be related. Stephen pgpiYTdDuqfg2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: CGI:IRC on Debian

2003-06-24 Thread David Leadbeater
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:28, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote: > Hello people! =) > > I became a maintainer recently, when I took the prozilla package from Gustavo > Noronha Silva (kov), a few days ago. I am now trying to finish my second > Debian Package: cgiirc. > > Unfortunately, the program pu

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread John Hasler
Dan Jacobson writes: > I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the > package justice by giving an adequate description. While extremely short descriptions might be a cause for concern regardless of the size of the package, I don't see why larger packages should need longe

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-24 Thread Johannes Rohr
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> I was wondering, should I make a mass filing of bugs for those packages >> who fail to produce a proper description? > [...] > > I doubt that just filing bugs without fix makes sense, OTOH > if you planned to submit 10 reports with "the des

Re: [devel] Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Re: [devel] Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description [Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 03:17:27PM +0800, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > I was hoping large package developers would write longer descriptions. Where are the statistics for that? You only gave the av

Re: Accepted vile 9.3-s1 (sparc source all)

2003-06-24 Thread Thomas Dickey
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Format: 1.7 > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:29:15 +1000 > Source: vile > Binary: xvile vile-filters vile vile-common > Architecture: source sparc all > Version: 9.3-s1 > Distribution: unstable > Urgency: low

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-24 Thread Adam Warner
Hi Arnd Bergmann, > On Tuesday 24 June 2003 02:00, Adam Heath wrote: >> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> > In g++ 3.2, this code was distributed as "i386", and nobody noticed >> > that it doesn't work on i386 for quite some time. In gcc 3.3, an >> > implementation is provided that

Re: EPSON appreciates your feedback by June 30, '03 - Debian

2003-06-24 Thread Julien BLACHE
[Ob-lists: if replying publicly, please reply to -devel only] "Farideh Sherbaf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Linux Developer and Distributor, Hi, > Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Farideh Sherbaf and > I am your contact for EPSON Worldwide Developer Relations for scanners

Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Stone
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: debbackup Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.trinity.unimelb.edu.au/~dstone/debbackup/ (not functional yet) *

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 03:29:23PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the > package justice by giving an adequate description. File wishlist bugs with a patch for the long description then. Michael

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Dan Jacobson
I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the package justice by giving an adequate description. The Packages file could very well be the source for decisions on what gets chosen or not for ones system.

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > You could start by telling us what maildirmake is supposed to do. > > > Why do we need it? Any program I know of which can handle Maildir > > > is not only capable of storing messages in Maildir folders but > > > also of generating them. This includes e.g.

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Sam Clegg
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:45:30AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > * Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > You could start by telling us what maildirmake is supposed to do. Why > > do we need it? Any program I know of which can handle Maildir is not > > only capable of storing messages in Ma

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:45:30AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > * Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > You could start by telling us what maildirmake is supposed to do. Why > > do we need it? Any program I know of which can handle Maildir is not > > only capable of storing messages in Ma

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Koch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 09:45 schrieb Ralf Hildebrandt: > * Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > You could start by telling us what maildirmake is supposed to do. > > Why do we need it? Any program I know of which can handle Maildir > > is not o

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You could start by telling us what maildirmake is supposed to do. Why > do we need it? Any program I know of which can handle Maildir is not > only capable of storing messages in Maildir folders but also of > generating them. This includes e.g. the exim(4)

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Dan Jacobson
I was hoping large package developers would write longer descriptions.

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 01:12:04PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > My logic was that, from the basic system, Maildir mailboxes are no > use. Can I have a bit of the weed you are smoking? Seems to be good. Package: mutt Priority: standard `standard' These packages pro

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Andreas Metzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > But, I was looking around and wondering about that I couldn't find > any `maildirmake' for Debian, excluding qmail-src, courier and > maildrop, which I don't want/don't need to use. [...] You could start by telling us what maildirmake is supposed to do. Why do we n

Re: C++ & Java IDE

2003-06-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Jan Schulz | * David Goodenough wrote: | | >KDevelop comes as part of KDE, Eclipse is only available in unstable at the | >moment (I don't think it has made it into testing yet but I may be wrong). | | Nope... On the other hand it is no problem to recompile it on woody | systems. Only thing is

Re: Can a polish speaker please translate this?

2003-06-24 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Marek Habersack wrote: thanks Marek. Can you ask him if he installed webmin updates without using .debs? This is the most probable cause of his problem. It is a bad idea because the packaging system is unaware of the changes and can, like in this case, accidently overwrite

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, David B Harris wrote: > Given how simple it is, makes more sense to have it in one place. I > don't know where it should be (in all the MTAs?), but there you go :) > Well I have one in dovecot but I don't see why it couldn't be in e.g. debianutils. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EM