Re: Completely OT, just to quickly prove a point.

2001-09-27 Thread Russel Ingram
Thank you all for your kind replies. It is plain to me that while Craigs response was not at all polite, I did not give him enough background information for him to think anything other than that I had not read the documentation. In truth, I had read the docs and they don't state that if you leav

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:28:57AM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: > If a multi-billion dollar company whose employees have all learned > British English decide that their documentation should be in > American English, that's saying something. It says that they feel Americans are too provincial.

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Miros/law Baran
27.09.2001 pisze Bill Wohler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > If a multi-billion dollar company whose employees have all learned > British English decide that their documentation should be in > American English, that's saying something. That's saying nothing. Debian IS NOT multi-billion dollar compan

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
On Thu, 2001-09-27 at 17:28, Bill Wohler wrote: > Sean Middleditch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why such emphasis? The idea is to spell words like "colour" instead of > > > "color", not to write the ls man page in iambic pentameter. > > No, the idea is to spell it "color," not "colour." >

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:28:57AM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: > Sean Middleditch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why such emphasis? The idea is to spell words like "colour" instead of > > > "color", not to write the ls man page in iambic pentameter. > > No, the idea is to spell it "color," not

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Bill Wohler
Sean Middleditch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why such emphasis? The idea is to spell words like "colour" instead of > > "color", not to write the ls man page in iambic pentameter. No, the idea is to spell it "color," not "colour." The mass of writing in the computer world is American Eng

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On 27 Sep 2001, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2001-09-27T00:32:08Z, Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ...the French thinking that French is the lingua franca of the world. It's > > only wishful thinking. > >From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary: > Lingua Franca \Lin"gua Fran"ca\

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2001-09-27T00:32:08Z, Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ...the French thinking that French is the lingua franca of the world. It's > only wishful thinking. >From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary: Lingua Franca \Lin"gua Fran"ca\ (l[i^][ng]"gw[.a] fr[a^][ng]"k[.a]). [It.,

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 09:46:57AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > My two cents... If the bug stayed with wnpp (as opposed to being > reassigned to ftp.debian.org) Keep in mind, these are not the only alternatives. I've modified my proposal in response to a good point that Marcelo Magallon mad

OT: new use of "Open Source"

2001-09-27 Thread Dale Scheetz
I just heard an "analyst" on the radio use the term "Open Source" to refer to intelligence information that could be made public! This struck me as proof that this movement has penetrated the general public more than I suspected. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "Dwarf's Guide to Debian GNU

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 06:38:46PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > > > > Well, the bug could be reassigned to "wnpp,ftp.debian.org". That should > > work with the current BTS without changing anything. > > I think it should be kept to wn

quota utils doesn't support 4-bit uids

2001-09-27 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
Package: quota Version: 3.00pre01-15 Severity: important quota package doesn't work with 4-bit. Please compile it with ./configure --with-ext2direct=no Without this option quota tools overrides kernel. The output for original quota package: # ls -l /mnt total 843556 -rw-r--r-- 1 11 11 8

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > My two cents... If the bug stayed with wnpp (as opposed to being > reassigned to ftp.debian.org) I'd prefer a new title (e.g. ITP-uploaded). > Archive maintainer who reject an upload could then retitle it to > ITP-rejected and document wh

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-27 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Sam Powers wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 04:54:29PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > > > > > closed automatically, but this way it is clear that the matter is out of > > > the (prospective) package maintainer's hands, or those of the W

wxgtk python2 bindings

2001-09-27 Thread Tille, Andreas
Hello, I had a short e-mail exchange with the maintainer of the wxgtk packages Ron Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> because I asked him, whether he would plan a package for python2 because a program I want to pack depends from it. Ron isn“t actually a big user of wxPython himself and he said hi is quite p

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 12:58:31AM -0500, Scott Dier wrote: > * Sam Couter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010926 23:13]: > > only language of the computing world? Pull your head out of your arse (not > > your ass, that's a donkey) and take a good look around. The world is much > > Actually, its a synonym fo

Re: (no subject)

2001-09-27 Thread Paul van Tilburg
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 01:18:23PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously StudPool User wrote: > > I only want to report a bug, on the text console often apears a line > > neighbor table owerflow. > > Kernel bug in the network driver for your card (eepro100 I suspect). I have this when the l

Re: (no subject)

2001-09-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously StudPool User wrote: > I only want to report a bug, on the text console often apears a line > neighbor table owerflow. Kernel bug in the network driver for your card (eepro100 I suspect). Wichert. -- _ / Nothing

Bug#113681: ITP: canna-shion - supporting dictionaries for Canna

2001-09-27 Thread Yoshito Komatsu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist I intend to package Shion. It was downloaded from http://www.coolbrain.net/shion.html Upstream Author: lain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Copyright: 2000 DISTORTION in the SHELL, by lain You are free to redistibute it and/or modify it. Regards, -- Yoshito Komatsu <

(no subject)

2001-09-27 Thread StudPool User
I just installed Debian 3.0 woody prerelase. I only want to report a bug, on the text console often apears a line neighbor table owerflow. I don' t need any support, I'll return to 2.1 until the stable release is available. GRTX aZrael

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread wouter
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 07:44:05AM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: > > Maybe we should just use Debian English or Internet English, wich > > means: produce something legible by other inhabitants of the Internet > > and/or Debian, and who cares abo

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Duncan Findlay wrote: > I also think it's ridiculous that everybody be forced to write Debian > documentation in American English. Nobody is forced to, and everything I write is in real (British) English. Wichert. -- _

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-27 Thread Sam Powers
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 04:54:29PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > > > closed automatically, but this way it is clear that the matter is out of > > the (prospective) package maintainer's hands, or those of the WNPP > > group, and in that of

Re: Mounts with fs type 'none'

2001-09-27 Thread wouter
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Steve Greenland wrote: > > mount -t none -o bind /somewhere /some/where/else > > Thanks. Does anything else use '-t none'? Swapspace. But that's hardly an issue... -- wouter dot verhelst at advalvas in Belgium This is Linux world. On a quiet day, you can hear Windows rebo

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > Well, the bug could be reassigned to "wnpp,ftp.debian.org". That should > work with the current BTS without changing anything. I think it should be kept to wnpp. At least, so that we have a distinction between ITP that has been withdr

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:11:53AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote: > please explain how a symlink /etc/bind -> /var/chroot/bind/etc > would be a security problem? That would suck. Config files belong in /etc only. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 26, Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >AFAIK mount -o ro --bind /etc/ foo/etc does not mount readonly. So It will in future 2.4 releases. >there would be write access to the root partition in the chroot. It does not matter anyway, because the files are owned by root and BIND 9 w

Re: Mounts with fs type 'none'

2001-09-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 27, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >(And why does mount(8) document '--bind' but not '-t none' or '-o >bind'?) Because -o bind is the old API and you are not supposed to use it. -- ciao, Marco

Re: how to get full package url from apt-cache?

2001-09-27 Thread Admar Schoonen
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 02:49:39PM +0200, Piotr Krukowiecki wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Steve Kowalik wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 11:09:54PM +0200, Massimo Dal Zotto uttered: > > > Hi, > > > > > > is it possible to get the full URL of a package (the one which is passed > > > by apt-get

Fwd: .uk ccTLD and ISO 3166-1 (was: discrepancy in ISO 3166-1 country codes)

2001-09-27 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
Hi, about the debate between ISO coutnry code GB and cc TLD, I contacted The Secretariat of the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency. Here's their explanation about the choice that was made. Thought you'd be interested in hearing the "official" reasons. - Forwarded message from CORD WISCHHOEFER <[EM

Re: lintian releases

2001-09-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > a) you declare a relation on a package more than once i.e. Depends: foo, foo > (<< 2.0). Note this check assumes that '|' relations are sane, so Depends: > foo > | bar | baz, foo is ok. This reminds me. The policy does not seem to

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Seems to me that "American English", "Australian English", "British > English", "Singaporese(?) English", "Hong Kong English", "Canadian > English", etc. are most appropriate; there is no reason for one > particular variant to be called "English.

HylaFAX directory structure

2001-09-27 Thread Pavel Tcholakov
Good day, Since version 4.1, upstream HylaFAX changed its default storage directory from /var/spool/fax to /var/spool/hylafax. However, as that location is hard-coded in an awful lot of places, the current Debian version still installs into /var/spool/fax. Apparently this creates a slight conflict

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:04:50AM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: > > Doesn't solve the problem of the default charset though... > > iso8859-1 covers most people, doesn't it? I mean, as a default. I > admit I don't know a lot about charsets - iso8859-1 is enough for me > to comunicate in Italian

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 02:03:29PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > "Well, clearly after making the package from scratch, the next step is to > get it into the archive, and responsibility for that is with ftpmaster, > so let's reassign the bug to ftp.debian.org" ...typically requires human interventi

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread David Starner
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:04:50AM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: > > Doesn't solve the problem of the default charset though... > > iso8859-1 covers most people, doesn't it? I mean, as a default. I > admit I don't know a lot about charsets - iso8859-1 is enough for me > to comunicate in Italian

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread David N. Welton
Martijn van Oosterhout writes: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 07:44:05AM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: > > Maybe we should just use Debian English or Internet English, wich > > means: produce something legible by other inhabitants of the > > Internet and/or Debian, and who cares about the details.

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Scott Dier
* Sam Couter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010926 23:13]: > only language of the computing world? Pull your head out of your arse (not > your ass, that's a donkey) and take a good look around. The world is much Actually, its a synonym for ass, but whos counting? While were on the track of gross generaliza

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 07:44:05AM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: > Maybe we should just use Debian English or Internet English, wich > means: produce something legible by other inhabitants of the Internet > and/or Debian, and who cares about the details. Now there's a definition I can live with.

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread David N. Welton
Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Seems to me that "American English", "Australian English", "British > English", "Singaporese(?) English", "Hong Kong English", "Canadian > English", etc. are most appropriate; there is no reason for one > particular variant to be called "English." As p

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-27 Thread Thomas Strathmann
> Just my 2/100 Euro. (What are fractional Euros called in English > anyway? Cents?) Euro Cents or just Euro... -Thomas -- Thomas S. Strathmann http://www.tstrathmann.de & http://www.pdp7.org pgpFoct9mmF3H.pgp Description: PGP signature