Re: Bug#95801: won't let me upgrade perl from stable to unstable

2001-04-30 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 May 2001, Brian May wrote: > > "Jason" == Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jason> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Brian May wrote: > > >> WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed This > >> should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! >

Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-04-30 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:14:35AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sunday 29 April 2001 06:48, Brandon High wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 11:50:26PM +0200, Andreas Bombe wrote: > > > The IBM SCSI disk I have here has a jumper to delay spin up depending on > > > SCSI ID so that an array of tho

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 11:10:47PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > I think it makes as much sense as the existing task packages. > > Existing brokenness is no excuse for new brokenness though. I have gone > into detail about how the current task system is fubar, and I think I'

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 11:10:47PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > I think it makes as much sense as the existing task packages. > Existing brokenness is no excuse for new brokenness though. I have gone > into detail about how the current task system is fubar, and I think I've >

Fwd: Re: [GB]Conflict with name libgb.so

2001-04-30 Thread Ben Burton
Hi.. just received this from the primary Gnome Basic author. I'll make the suggested changes and merge the Gnome Basic stuff into /usr/lib/libgbrun.so; Stanford GraphBase need not be touched. Ben. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [GB]Conflict with name libgb.so Date: Mon,

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Alan Shutko
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There are billions and billions of ways you can tweak environment > variables to break shell scripts that don't bother. What's your > point? If I can tweak IFS to change parsing, I can also tweak PATH. So far, all I've come up with are programs passing

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Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Joey Hess
Matt Zimmerman wrote: > I think it makes as much sense as the existing task packages. Existing brokenness is no excuse for new brokenness though. I have gone into detail about how the current task system is fubar, and I think I've filed bugs on most of the task packages you mention since they shou

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 11:50:59PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > > > But I'm *not* the maintainer; I'm one of a group of maintainers. If > > > we do this, then every time one of us uploads, we need to change the >

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Alan Shutko
Zack Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Irrelevant. Look up IFS in a bugtraq archive. > I shan't do your homework for you. You're reporting a bug. The standards say this isn't a requirement or a problem. Prove your case or at least take it to private email. There are billions and billions

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Zack Weinberg
severity 95430 critical quit I can keep this up just as long as you can. ... > > (tests) ... except that ash does honor IFS from the environment. You > > realize that this is a gaping security hole, even if IFS is only used > > to split the results of expansion? You realize that it is trivial t

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Rahul Jain wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:06:01PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > The client side of fetchmail will (by default) feed each message into your > > local MTA for delivery, but you'll have to figure a way to get the mail > > into it > > from the remote mailbo

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Herbert Xu
severity 95430 wishlist quit On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 06:35:53PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > > (tests) ... except that ash does honor IFS from the environment. You > realize that this is a gaping security hole, even if IFS is only used > to split the results of expansion? You realize that it i

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Alan Shutko
Zack Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Uh, no it can't. I'm talking about self-contained shell scripts, > not functions. IFS does not inherit through the environment. > Self-contained scripts can count on its being set to > "" when execution begins. Says who? SUS says: IFS Input

Re: Bug#95801: won't let me upgrade perl from stable to unstable

2001-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, xsdg wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the correct answer, but do > you have the newest apt, apt-utils, debconf, > debconf-utils, and dpkg installed on that box? Does that really address the problem? A user upgrading from potato to woody once woody is released will also not h

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Zack Weinberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 07:30:14AM +1000 # Let's try this again reopen 95430 severity 95430 critical retitle 95430 [SECURITY] ash honors IFS in environment quit On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 07:30:14AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > I have consulted the Single Unix Standard and can f

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Rahul Jain
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:06:01PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > The client side of fetchmail will (by default) feed each message into your > local MTA for delivery, but you'll have to figure a way to get the mail into > it > from the remote mailbox without IMAP or POP services (which I don't thi

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:31:48PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In many Linux distributions, Emacs is a high-level installation task, like > > "Games" or "Mail". This makes sense to the average user, who usually either > > wants Emacs or does not.

Re: Bug#95801: won't let me upgrade perl from stable to unstable

2001-04-30 Thread xsdg
I'm not sure if this is the correct answer, but do you have the newest apt, apt-utils, debconf, debconf-utils, and dpkg installed on that box? --xsdg -- ___ / Sun Microsystems. We put the dot in ./exploit \ \

Re: 404's

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:00:18PM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: > It seems like an easy way to prevent the following would be to update the > Packages.gz file LAST, after syncing up the other files, IE: > > rsync --exclude "Packages*" debian/pool > rsync --delete debian/pool (If old packages are e

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 09:17:21AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > "Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Matt> Unless, of course, you can do your filtering on the mail > Matt> server, as I do. > > In my case, my MTA server is on the wrong side of my permanent > 28.8kbp

Re: Bug#95420: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 06:34:19PM -0400, Ben Darnell wrote: > This thread is directed at the wrong bug number - the discussion is about > #95430, but the messages are going to #95420. Please adjust the recipients > appropriately in your replies. My apologies, I mistyped the bug number. zw

Re: Bug#95801: won't let me upgrade perl from stable to unstable

2001-04-30 Thread Brian May
reopen 95801 thanks (note: skip to "rehash of problem" to see what this problem is all about. I am writing this to debian-devel, because I consider this a serious problem which shouldn't be ignored). > "Jason" == Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jason> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Br

Re: looking for missing mail

2001-04-30 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
Hello, The gap has been filled in... thanks to everyone. Regards, Filip -- War does not prove who is right, it proves who is left. pgpCgyOwW683v.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread mdanish
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 11:52:46PM +, Will Lowe wrote: > > > I think it's safe to assume that your system MUST have a working MTA of > > > some sort (even if it's local-only, which is supported by eximconfig). > > This is true, but does it need to be world-accessible? There should > > be a way

Re: problems with atari800

2001-04-30 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:58:42PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > http://atari800.atari.org/ > > is listed as the canonical source for all things atari, but a ping of this > address simply hangs. $ whois atari.org ... NS1.ATARI.ORG212.73.17.43 NS2.GEMSOFT.NET 195.

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Will Lowe
> > I think it's safe to assume that your system MUST have a working MTA of > > some sort (even if it's local-only, which is supported by eximconfig). > This is true, but does it need to be world-accessible? There should > be a way to either have it listen on localhost only, or not listen on Sure

Bug#95890: ITP: gfax -- the GNU HaliFAX Sender

2001-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau
Package: wnpp Version: 0.4.2-1 Severity: wishlist Licence: GNU General Public License version 2 This program is the GNU HaliFAX project's sender. It is able to send ps data and tiff fax files through HylaFAX(tm) systems as well as any other G3/G4-encoded TIFF fax file. Besides this, the package i

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread mdanish
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 08:12:59PM +, Will Lowe wrote: > > Actually there are some packages that depend on a mail-transport-agent, > > (such as lilo->logrotate->mailx), yet one may not want to have an MTA > > running on certain systems. I suppose a dummy or minimal MTA may be > > I think it's

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Brian May
> "Oliver" == Oliver Elphick writes: Oliver> It is indeed the case that ident is needed to allow local Oliver> access without a password. I understand that this Oliver> presents a small security risk on the server. However, Oliver> without it, it is necessary for the postgre

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Alan Shutko
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In many Linux distributions, Emacs is a high-level installation task, like > "Games" or "Mail". This makes sense to the average user, who usually either > wants Emacs or does not. For a little amplification, while "Emacs as an editor" may not make muc

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread John Hasler
Matt Zimmerman writes: > I think it makes as much sense as the existing task packages. Many of which make no more sense than would task-emacs. > Perhaps task-devel-emacs would be the logical analogue. Why would someone who wants emacs so that he can read news and mail with gnus and work on his W

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Brian May
> "Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matt> Unless, of course, you can do your filtering on the mail Matt> server, as I do. In my case, my MTA server is on the wrong side of my permanent 28.8kbps modem link. Of course, I could make master.debian.org my server, too. J

imp broken in unstable?

2001-04-30 Thread Brian May
Hello, Recently, not long after I upgraded imp and horde to unstable, it broke :-( Now whenever I try to use it I can compilation warnings like this: Warning: This compilation does not support pg_cmdtuples() in /etc/horde/db_pgsql.inc on line 122 Warning: PostgresSQL query failed: ERROR: Canno

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* "Vince Mulhollon" | But what happens when people provide / request / demand optimized | versions of Gnome, KDE, and Apache for every possible combination of | optimization? You point them to pentium-builder, or Debian moves to a 'make world' paradigm. Or we bloat the archives a lot. I hope f

Re: Bug#95420: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Ben Darnell
This thread is directed at the wrong bug number - the discussion is about #95430, but the messages are going to #95420. Please adjust the recipients appropriately in your replies. -Ben - Original Message - From: "Zack Weinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian Bug Tracking System" <[EMAIL

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread James Troup
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I am suggesting is that katie has a list of such cases (although > I'm not proposing a particular format): >From my point of view, such information would ideally be: o not centrally controlled, but package/maintainer(s) controlled[0] o trivial

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 11:50:59PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > > But I'm *not* the maintainer; I'm one of a group of maintainers. If > > we do this, then every time one of us uploads, we need to change the > > maintainer name in the control file. > > You nee

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, it seems that this behavior is different from that of traditional > Bourne shell implementations, so I think I have to agree that ash should avoid > diverging from tradition in order to adhere to a relatively new standard. I will probably cha

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 04:36:14PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Matt Zimmerman writes: > > I think Emacs as a task makes good sense. > > I think getting it out of standard makes good sense, but I'm not convinced > that it makes sense as a "task". I think it makes as much sense as the existing tas

problems with atari800

2001-04-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
I've been working on getting the newest atari800 code to build for Debian, and I've run into some problems. (Well, yes, I'm having some compilation problems as well, but this isn't about those...) There are several sites that are pretty critical to the proper opperation of this package that I can'

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > But I'm *not* the maintainer; I'm one of a group of maintainers. If > we do this, then every time one of us uploads, we need to change the > maintainer name in the control file. You needed to do that anyway. The problem you have is that dinstall has no way to fig

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:16:16PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > [whose words are these? unattributed in your mail] > > Sorry, but this is broken. This assumes that IFS is set to begin with > > which may not be the case. > > I have consulted the Single Unix Standard and can find only dubious > j

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:35:54AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > > I've got another request, but I reckon it's a katie one: it would be > > really nice if the Maintainer could be a mailing list (eg, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and that katie would recognise one of a small > > list of names and emails for t

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread John Hasler
Matt Zimmerman writes: > I think Emacs as a task makes good sense. I think getting it out of standard makes good sense, but I'm not convinced that it makes sense as a "task". -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: package servers inconsistent?

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 08:50:06PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Is it possible to keep an eye upon package consistency on the > hosts 'http.us.debian.org'? > > Each time I run 'apt-get update', some of the package lists on my > machine seem to be outdated, even if the last update has been done >

Perl module location

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
(The following is based on the information in the Contents-i386 file on ftp-master.) I just filed bugs on about 5 packages which install Perl modules into /usr/share/perl/5.6.0 against the perl policy. But then I checked to see if there are any packages installing into /usr/lib/perl/5.6.0, and I

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Herbert Xu
Zack Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:22:18AM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: >> > >> > ash 0.3.8-1 incorporates changes in word splitting which break common >> > shell scripts, such as /usr/bin/mktexpk and the 'mklibgcc' script used >> > when compiling GCC. >> > >> >

latex2html/netpbm/undefined symbol: pm_optParseOptions2

2001-04-30 Thread Thomas R. Shemanske
I have a production machine which was 95% potato. I had to update the libc6 libraries to install a couple of woody packages which were needed by others. I found today that latex2html was broken. The error I am trying to track down is: /usr/bin/pnmcrop: error while loading shared libraries:

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Paul Martin
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 05:39:34PM +0200, Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt wrote: > If instead, you were able to type something akin to "update-kernel" or > whatever, and then have a kernel built suited to your arch, but with the > "default" Debian-options (ie. lotsa modules), wouldn't that be better?

Processed: RE: Bug#95875: Package 'console-data' missing in woody

2001-04-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 95875 console-data Bug#95875: Package 'console-data' missing in woody Bug reassigned from package `general' to `console-data'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 10:03:49AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > ...what would people think of making a task-emacs and moving both tetex > > and emacs out from standard? > > As an emacs user I think this is an excellent idea, but I worry that > such stretching of the defin

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 04:25:16AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have just added support to debbugs in cvs, and on master, so that the > > maintainer address for a package can be overriden. This allows the real > > maintainer to be someone diffe

404's

2001-04-30 Thread Adam McKenna
It seems like an easy way to prevent the following would be to update the Packages.gz file LAST, after syncing up the other files, IE: rsync --exclude "Packages*" debian/pool rsync --delete debian/pool (If old packages are even deleted) --Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading P

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Vince Mulhollon
On 04/30/2001 03:21:55 PM "Christopher C. Chimelis" wrote: >> Basically, I can understand everyone's desires for a kernel that covers >> their cases (SMP, UP, 686, 386, etc), but the bloat issue that initially I can't understand that desire for such a small gain, but whatever. >> this thread ge

Bug#95875: Package 'console-data' missing in woody

2001-04-30 Thread Michael Karcher
Package: general Version: N/A; reported 2001-04-30 Severity: important There is no package 'console-data' in the woody distribution. This means no keyboard except US is supported. The package 'console-data' from sid does work. -- System Information Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:22:47AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:29:58PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: > > I suspect it's already been discussed before, so I'll ask instead of > > flaming. (See! I can learn!) > > many times before. > > > Why does a server auto

looking for missing mail

2001-04-30 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
Hi, Due to dissappearance of my mail provider I have missed the mail from this list from friday til sunday (until I resubscribed with another address). I'd be very thankfull if someone could send me a file with the missing mails. For mutt users I can even tell how to do this; in the index view t

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Scott Dier
* Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010424 07:03]: > ONE HUNDRED AND TEN MEGABYTES PER KERNEL RELEASE DOES NOT HELP MIRRORS WHICH > HAVE > OUT OF SYNC PACKAGES FILES AND ACTUAL PACKAGES HALF THE TIME. Being a maint. of two debian mirrors, I don't get your point. :) Could you please turn this in

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Unfortunately it seems that a kernel that supports both i386 and SMP > would have to use very slow methods for locking since instructions > allowing faster locking only came in with the 486 and above. I'm wondering when this whole discussion will in

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 04:25:16AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have just added support to debbugs in cvs, and on master, so that the > maintainer address for a package can be overriden. This allows the real > maintainer to be someone different than the person or list that gets the bugs. >

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Will Lowe
> Actually there are some packages that depend on a mail-transport-agent, > (such as lilo->logrotate->mailx), yet one may not want to have an MTA > running on certain systems. I suppose a dummy or minimal MTA may be I think it's safe to assume that your system MUST have a working MTA of some sort

Re: Keysigning request in New York City

2001-04-30 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
I don't think I'll need it - Dave Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Itai Zukerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> both seem to be able and willing to sign my key. If that fails for some reason, I'll contact you, but don't plan on it. Thanks very much for the offer though. - Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread mdanish
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian > makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you > want to run it. If i install bind, it will assume i want it to run. If > i install

ITP: ardour -- professional multitrack audio editing tool

2001-04-30 Thread ericvb
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist a "professional" multitrack multichannel audio recorder and DAW using ALSA-supported audio interfaces. Supports up to 32-bit samples, 24+ channels at up to 96 kHz, non-destructive, non-linear editing. Licence is GPL. http://ardour.sourceforge.net -- Eric VAN BU

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau
> As always, that would be true if they weren't installed by default. The > current method requires too much prior knowledge. This could be put as a question whenever someone installs Debian GNU/Linux. Something like "Do you want to enable the installed server software by default. Beware that this

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Zack Weinberg
reopen 95420 quit ... > On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:22:18AM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > > > > ash 0.3.8-1 incorporates changes in word splitting which break common > > shell scripts, such as /usr/bin/mktexpk and the 'mklibgcc' script used > > when compiling GCC. > > > > #! /bin/ash > > OIFS=$IF

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Oliver Elphick wrote: >>This works for Unix sockets under Linux 2.2 and Linux 2.4, at least. I don't >>know how portable the interface is beyond that, and lack of portability might >>prevent upstream from adopting it. It would be interesting to see this as an >>option for De

package servers inconsistent?

2001-04-30 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, Is it possible to keep an eye upon package consistency on the hosts 'http.us.debian.org'? Each time I run 'apt-get update', some of the package lists on my machine seem to be outdated, even if the last update has been done just a few jiffies ago. But usually the following 'apt-get ugrad

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: >That's not true for Linux 2.[24].x at least. One can use >getsockopt(..., SO_PEERCRED, ...) to get the uid of the other end. > >It would be nice if you could request that as an upstream feature. The upstream developers are not friendly to non-portable features; I

Re: FWD: Popularity-contest submission doesn't go through to apenwarr-survey@klecker.debain.org

2001-04-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:05:20PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: > > $ host -v -t MX -A debian.org > > Query about debian.org for record types MX > > Found 1 address for debian.org > > Checking debian.org address 198.186.203.20 > > !!! debian.org address 198.186.203.20 maps to klecker.debian.org >

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:51:45PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:36:21AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > > Unless, of course, you can do your filtering on the mail server, as I do. > > and how many isps allow this? Some IMAP servers support server-side filtering, wh

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Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
"Oliver Elphick" writes: > It is indeed the case that ident is needed to allow local access without > a password. I understand that this presents a small security risk on the > server. I think README.Debian or somesuch should tell why ident is necessary, and perhaps also how one can restrict id

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
Steve Langasek wrote: >> In case anyone should ask why the server cannot authenticate directly, >> communication between front- and back-ends is done through a Unix socket >> and therefore it is not possible for the back-end to know the identity >> of the user at the front-end. The only op

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 10:55:22PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Christian Hammers wrote: > > Would it be good to have a package task-debian that had dependencies to such > > "meta" packages (including the latest version of apt,debconf and dpkg) to > > ensure that users always get the latest Debian "

Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-04-30 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:01:16AM +1000, Brian May wrote: ... > I would assume (hope!) the original poster plans to run both power > supplies from the same central switch, in order to minimise problems > here. OP doesn't plan to run anything. OP informed Powers That Be of the options and is waiti

Re: FWD: Popularity-contest submission doesn't go through to apenwarr-survey@klecker.debain.org

2001-04-30 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-04-30 Matthijs Melchior wrote: > Christian Kurz wrote: > > On 01-04-29 Joey Hess wrote: > > > Anyone have a clue? > > > Received: from myhostname.my.isp.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) > > > by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with > > > +ESMTP id f3QDlYZ

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Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:27:38AM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > At Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:59:24 -0400, > Ben Collins wrote: > > > I cannot find out why `libdb-3' is used and spreaded over the gnome > > > packages. Naming soname is sensitive issue, IMHO. > > > > As I said the *upstream* soname is lib

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread james
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:41:22PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > This is the point where I disagree. I really hate having to build my > own kernel just to do some tests with a fresh installation. I think > the standard kernel should support SMP. I don't know if it causes > any problems with UP

Re: Gnome bug 94684

2001-04-30 Thread Christian Marillat
"JB" == Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> Ha, somebody understand me :) JB> In which case, it's perfectly reasonable to just leave the bug open JB> and not fix it. But don't close it. And do forward it upstream. Already done. Christian

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Warren A. Layton
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:28:49AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > 1. ssh and sshd should be split into separate packages. if it bothers you > enough, file a bug report. i'm happy with the way it is. > > or > > 2. the handful of people who want the ssh client but not the ssh daemon > can learn h

Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:59:24 -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > I cannot find out why `libdb-3' is used and spreaded over the gnome > > packages. Naming soname is sensitive issue, IMHO. > > As I said the *upstream* soname is libdb-3.so, and Debian's soname is > libdb3.so.3. The former is not very confo

Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread Christian Marillat
"GM" == GOTO Masanori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It is possible to stop all Cc ? Christian

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Oliver Elphick wrote: > Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > >Package: libpgsql2.1 > >Version: 7.1release-2 > >Severity: normal > >identds are considered mild privacy/security risks, therefore I don't > >think libpgsql2.1 and postgresql-client[1] should depend on > >ident-se

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread John Hasler
Anthony Towns writes: > ...what would people think of making a task-emacs and moving both tetex > and emacs out from standard? As an emacs user I think this is an excellent idea, but I worry that such stretching of the definition of "task" may confuse users. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Danci

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:22:47AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:29:58PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: > > Why does a server automatically get run just because it's installed? > > because if you didn't want it to run, you wouldn't have installed it. As always, th

Re: Gnome bug 94684

2001-04-30 Thread Jules Bean
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 07:04:52PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > "CW" == Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > CW> Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Programs shouldn't gratuitously break configurations which worked. > >> When woody is released, and people upgrade en mas

Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 11:51:55PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > > I cannot find out why `libdb-3' is used and spreaded over the gnome > packages. Naming soname is sensitive issue, IMHO. > As I said the *upstream* soname is libdb-3.so, and Debian's soname is libdb3.so.3. The former is not very c

Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:04:48 -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > I wonder why libdb3 package includes > > /usr/lib/libdb3.so.3.0.2 , > > /usr/lib/libdb-3.so , > > however libdb3-dev package includes > > /usr/lib/libdb3.so . > > That .so is not a link name. It is only there so that things co

Re: X-Medium in /var/lib/dpkg/available

2001-04-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Nils Rennebarth wrote: > Short problem description: > dpkg complains about wrong syntax in /var/lib/dpkg/available, and in > fact there are a lot of package descriptions where the last line > read something like (from memory) Already fixed in dpkg 1.9.1, which will hit the mirroors in a

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Frederico Muñoz
Warren A. Layton wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you want to run it. If i install bind, it will assume i want it to ru

Re: postgresql and libssl - Bug#95146

2001-04-30 Thread PiotR
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:13:49PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > I have to reiterate a query about what to do with postgresql in view of its > now being linked with libssl. > > Since this question is currently being referred to legal advice, do you > want me to move postgresql into non-us, which

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:37:21AM -0500, Warren A. Layton wrote: > Well, not everyone that installs ssh wants to run the server (some may > just want to use the client to connect to other machines). This is > just one example; I'm sure that there are many more. that means either: 1. ssh and sshd

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > If there's nothing that depends on portmap, then default to not > installing portmap. speaking of portmap, debian's portmap is not an insecure thing to run by default because it is compiled with tcp-wrappers support and rejects all

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:29:58PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: > I suspect it's already been discussed before, so I'll ask instead of > flaming. (See! I can learn!) many times before. > Why does a server automatically get run just because it's installed? because if you didn't want it

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:41:22PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:19:12PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > anyone running SMP ought to have enough of a clue to compile their > > own kernel. > > This is the point where I disagree. I really hate having to build my > own

Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-04-30 Thread PiotR
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:14:35AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sunday 29 April 2001 06:48, Brandon High wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 11:50:26PM +0200, Andreas Bombe wrote: > > > The IBM SCSI disk I have here has a jumper to delay spin up depending on > > > SCSI ID so that an array of tho

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 08:34:04AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the new universe (debbootstrap, tasksel, etc) where a user might > never run dselect, what makes sure that in the default configuration, > standard priority packages get install

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