Re: Questions about testing

2001-01-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 02:15:29PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > The idea is that for a package to get into testing it should: > > * be synchronised across architectures > * have all its dependencies met, and not break the dependencies > of other packages > * not have any

Re: Questions about testing

2001-01-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 02:04:51PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes: > Anthony> Well, even Joey Hess has slipped up in his religious debconf > Anthony> uploads and had four or five delays longer than a fortnight > Anthony> between updates. Basically, though,

Re: Problem with pcmcia-modules and kernel-image

2001-01-01 Thread Brian Mays
> Sure ? Actually pcmcia-modules-2.2.18 depends on kernel-image-2.2.18... The pcmcia-modules-2.2.18 package shipped with Debian depends on kernel-image-2.2.18, but pcmcia-modules packages in general -- e.g., those built locally by users to accompany their custom kernels --- do not have this dep

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 12:31:52PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 11:42:22AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:03:45PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > > > Happy new year to everyone! > > > > > > > > > > gcc 2.95.3 appeared in Sid, but it hasn't

Re: ITP kimberlite - was Re: High Availability..

2001-01-01 Thread Russell Coker
Josh Huber from mission critical Linux wants to do it. I think he's in a better position to do it than me so I have let him have it... Russell Coker > > Do you have any patches for creating Debian packages for kimberlite? If > > so > > please send them to me. > > > > I intend to package it.

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Daniel Stone
> On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 11:42:22AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > Ack!(tm). Not shades of rh7, I hope? I know that people using sid (like > > myself) are willingly sado-masochists, but a CVS GCC? > > GCC 2.95.3 is in final testing and due for release RSN, making it a > somewhat different situ

Re: Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Michael Meding
On Tuesday, 2. January 2001 00:07, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:59:19PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > > MM> Of course a quick search in there revealed nothing poping up for > > > > cdda. > > > > > > > > Very strange. I've find that in unstable : > > > > usr/include/cdda_interf

Re: Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Michael Meding
On Tuesday, 2. January 2001 00:07, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:59:19PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > > MM> Of course a quick search in there revealed nothing poping up for > > > > cdda. > > > > > > > > Very strange. I've find that in unstable : > > > > usr/include/cdda_interf

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Daniel Stone
> On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 11:42:22AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:03:45PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > > Happy new year to everyone! > > > > > > > > gcc 2.95.3 appeared in Sid, but it hasn't been announced by the > > > > GCC steering committee yet. Is this some

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Santiago Vila wrote: > First, there is no hurry for this. Second, it would probably take only > one more release if we stop using symlinks right now. I already made a > policy proposal to stop using symlinks, but there were objections from > Manoj and Raul I'm sure they objected since dropping sym

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Joey Hess wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > > No, we don't *need* any script to do this. One thing is that dpkg > > allows this to be done and another different one is that we *have* to > > do it. We agreed to make the transition on a per package basis. If we > > consider the tra

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 11:42:22AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:03:45PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > Happy new year to everyone! > > > > > > gcc 2.95.3 appeared in Sid, but it hasn't been announced by the > > > GCC steering committee yet. Is this some kind of ear

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 11:42:22AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > Ack!(tm). Not shades of rh7, I hope? I know that people using sid (like > myself) are willingly sado-masochists, but a CVS GCC? GCC 2.95.3 is in final testing and due for release RSN, making it a somewhat different situation. It's a

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Daniel Stone
> On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:03:45PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Happy new year to everyone! > > > > gcc 2.95.3 appeared in Sid, but it hasn't been announced by the > > GCC steering committee yet. Is this some kind of early access > > version? > > It's based on the CVS branch, which is note

Re: Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn
Retrieve the relevant Contents-${ARCH}.gz file and search: # wget ftp://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Contents-i386.gz # zgrep cdda_interface.h Contents-i386.gz Cheers, Cristian On 1 Jan 2001, Christian Marillat wrote: > "MM" == Michael Meding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: > Maybe this should be something like: > > if cp -a $OLDDOC/$item $NEWDOC; then > rm -rf $OLDDOC/$item > else > rm -rf $NEWDOC/$item > exit 1 > fi > > That should handle filesystem full errors a bit better. Of course

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > It should handle all the edge cases except: Well it also has a bug in the subdirectory merging code. Merging /usr/doc/HOWTO and /usr/share/doc/HOWTO is difficult. cp alone doesn't cut it. -- see shy jo

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 03:05:14PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > # Move any remaining directories and symlinks from OLDDOC to NEWDOC. > for item in `find $OLDDOC -maxdepth 1 \( -type d -or -type l \) -printf > '%P\n'`; do > if [ "$item" -a -e "$NEWDOC/$item" ]; then > echo "$ite

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:58:07PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > So bugs won't be noticed. Maybe a simple grep in the Contents files > would be enough to find all such packages. > Does lintian check for /usr/[share/]doc? > Yes, lintian does complain about /usr/doc and /usr/man -- ---

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Matthijs Melchior
Josip Rodin wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:58:04PM +0100, Matthijs Melchior wrote: > > > > To read the changelog I have to download and install it. But I don't > > > > like to install unknown compilers on my development machines. Especially > > > > since there is no undo operation for dpkg

Re: Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:59:19PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > MM> Of course a quick search in there revealed nothing poping up for cdda. > > > > > > Very strange. I've find that in unstable : > > > usr/include/cdda_interface.hsound/libcdparanoia0-dev > > > usr/include/cdda_paranoia.h

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Attached is my conversion script. It's parameterized at the top, so you can make copies of /usr/doc and /usr/share doc and point it at them instead. I have done that in my testing and it seems to work perfectly. It should handle all the edge cases except: 1. /usr/share mounted elsewhere and not b

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:58:04PM +0100, Matthijs Melchior wrote: > > > To read the changelog I have to download and install it. But I don't > > > like to install unknown compilers on my development machines. Especially > > > since there is no undo operation for dpkg -i. > > > > To read the chang

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Matthijs Melchior
Ben Collins wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:47:55PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Ben Collins wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:03:45PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > > Happy new year to everyone! > > > > > > To read the changelog I have to download and install it. But

Re: Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:56:21PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:47:51PM +0100, Christian Marillat wrote: > > MM> Of course a quick search in there revealed nothing poping up for cdda. > > > > Very strange. I've find that in unstable : > > usr/include/cdda_interface.hs

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin Brederlow wrote: >> What is the reason for linking /usr/doc to /usr/hare/doc (or >> share/doc)? > So that packages that are not policy complient and contain > files only in /usr/doc still end up installing them in

Re: Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:47:51PM +0100, Christian Marillat wrote: > MM> Of course a quick search in there revealed nothing poping up for cdda. > > Very strange. I've find that in unstable : > usr/include/cdda_interface.hsound/libcdparanoia0-dev > usr/include/cdda_paranoia.h sound/libcdpa

Re: Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Christian Marillat
"MM" == Michael Meding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages [...] MM> that was really funny. I am still laughing. Of course a quick search in there MM> revealed nothing poping up for cdda. But I did the search before I posted to MM> the list. MM>

Re: Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Michael Meding
On Monday, 1. January 2001 23:25, Christian Marillat wrote: > "MM" == Michael Meding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > MM> Hi all, > > Hi, > > MM> in which paket do I find the desired files ? > > Here : > > http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages > > Christian Hi Christian, that was really fun

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: > How can anything that's a "document" only work on a particular arch? If > you are talking about pre-compiled examples, well uh, don't precompile > them. Actually, policy does allow for that: Architecture-specific example files should be installed in a directory `/us

Re: Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:25:58PM +0100, Christian Marillat wrote: > MM> in which paket do I find the desired files ? > > Here : > > http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages And for those who are lazy to type, http://packages.debian.org/ Heck, most browsers will accept simply "packages.debian.o

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Santiago Vila wrote: > No, we don't *need* any script to do this. One thing is that dpkg > allows this to be done and another different one is that we *have* to > do it. We agreed to make the transition on a per package basis. If we > consider the transition almost finished and we want an empty /us

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 02:25:24PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > Maybe I have architecure dependent documentation that should not be in > > share. > > Er. Well policy does not allow for this at all. If you do actually have > such a thing (it seems unlikely), perhaps you

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Santiago Vila
Ben Collins wrote: > We just need a script/program that sanely does this transition, then > creates the /usr/doc -> share/doc symlink. No, we don't *need* any script to do this. One thing is that dpkg allows this to be done and another different one is that we *have* to do it. We agreed to make th

Re: Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Christian Marillat
"MM" == Michael Meding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MM> Hi all, Hi, MM> in which paket do I find the desired files ? Here : http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages Christian

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin Brederlow wrote: > What is the reason for linking /usr/doc to /usr/hare/doc (or > share/doc)? So that packages that are not policy complient and contain files only in /usr/doc still end up installing them in /usr/share/doc. > Maybe I have architecure dependent documentation that should not

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: > Exactly, except '6' should be "Link /usr/doc to share/doc", so chrooted > systems can be more easily maintained. Yes of course. I should have a fairly robust script in anouther half hour or so. -- see shy jo

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So it will need to: > 1. Remove all symlinks in /usr/doc that correspond to symlinks >or directories with the same names in /usr/share/doc > 2. If there are any directories with the same names in /usr/doc >and /

Re: rsync'ing pools (Was: Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!)

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Joey, can you put that where it originally came from? or next to the > original script? Any changes to the script from your side? This is much more complicated than anything I want to maintain. I'm looking forward to making my mirror script simpler as the pool situations

rsync'ing pools (Was: Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!)

2001-01-01 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Tinguaro Barreno Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello again. > On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 02:22:45PM +, Miquel van > Smoorenburg wrote: >> Yes. The structure of the archive has changed because of >> 'package pools'. You need to mirror 'pool' as well.

Where to find cdda_inteface.h and cdda_paranoia.h in ?

2001-01-01 Thread Michael Meding
Hi all, in which paket do I find the desired files ? Thanks in advance Michael Meding

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 12:20:32PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > So it will need to: > > 1. Remove all symlinks in /usr/doc that correspond to >symlinks or directories with the same names in /usr/share/doc > 2. If there are any directories with the same names in /usr/doc and >/usr/share/doc

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: > I think we need to reevaluate this decision based on the fact that the bug > in dpkg that forced this implementation (as opposed to a clean /usr/doc > symlink to share/doc) has been gone for awhile now (the potato dpkg is > fixed). > > For those that do not remember, the bug i

Re: Questions about testing

2001-01-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes: Anthony> Well, even Joey Hess has slipped up in his religious debconf Anthony> uploads and had four or five delays longer than a fortnight Anthony> between updates. Basically, though, at some point the Anthony> maintainer has to decide "I'm happy with this

Re: Linux Progress Patch for Debian available!

2001-01-01 Thread idalton
On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 02:42:25PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > AFAIK there is a problem with this patch since some of the copyright > > messages of the drivers are not displayed anymore. since some of them > > require the Copyright announcement, this is a violation of the l

Re: ITP: ttf-xtt, xfonts-xtt

2001-01-01 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 05:57:35AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: >> > ttf-xtt is Free Japanese TrueType fonts include watanabe-mincho and >> > wadalab-gothic (converted by me, used cb2ttj) >> > >> > xfont-xtt is psu

Re: ITP: ttf-xtt, xfonts-xtt

2001-01-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 05:57:35AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > ttf-xtt is Free Japanese TrueType fonts include watanabe-mincho and > wadalab-gothic (converted by me, used cb2ttj) > > xfont-xtt is psude package to use ttf-xtt on X. It includes > fonts.scale and fonts.alias > > Package: ttf-

Potato r2 ChangeLog issues

2001-01-01 Thread Steve McIntyre
I've finally found the time to investigate further the problems I had with the ChangeLog which cropped up when I started writing the debian-cd update-cd script. The following files have changed in between the 2.2r0 and 2.2r2 release but are NOT listed in the ChangeLog. I've compared the contents of

Re: ITP kimberlite - was Re: High Availability..

2001-01-01 Thread Michael Boman
Quoting Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thursday 28 December 2000 17:23, Michael Boman wrote: > > Nate Duehr wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 01:13:50PM +0200, Roger Abrahamsson wrote: > > > > Hello.. > > > > Has anyone tried to set up any such debian systems?? I'm thinking > of > > >

Re: Problem with pcmcia-modules and kernel-image

2001-01-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 05:07:33PM -0500, Brian Mays écrivait: > > actually the postint does call depmod -a only if the current kernel is > > the one for which the modules have been compiled, shouldn't it call > > depmod -a instead ? > > Well, that only works if the appropriate kernel version has

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:47:55PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Ben Collins wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:03:45PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > Happy new year to everyone! > > > > > > gcc 2.95.3 appeared in Sid, but it hasn't been announced by the > > > GCC steering committee yet.

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Harald Dunkel
Ben Collins wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:03:45PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Happy new year to everyone! > > > > gcc 2.95.3 appeared in Sid, but it hasn't been announced by the > > GCC steering committee yet. Is this some kind of early access > > version? > > It's based on the CVS br

Re: libgd's dependency on xlib stops netsaint from "testing"

2001-01-01 Thread Sander Smeenk \(CistroN Medewerker\)
Quoting Bernd Eckenfels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > It would be nice if you can avoid using xlibs, which > in turn depends in xfree86-common. A simple solution for this would be to make libgd1 *suggest* xlibs, but not depend on it. Since libgd1 will work when xlibs is not installed (eg. purged with --

Re: Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:03:45PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Happy new year to everyone! > > gcc 2.95.3 appeared in Sid, but it hasn't been announced by the > GCC steering committee yet. Is this some kind of early access > version? It's based on the CVS branch, which is noted in the changel

Huh, gcc 2.95.3?

2001-01-01 Thread Harald Dunkel
Happy new year to everyone! gcc 2.95.3 appeared in Sid, but it hasn't been announced by the GCC steering committee yet. Is this some kind of early access version? Regards Harri

lilo 21.6

2001-01-01 Thread Russell Coker
I have accepted Vincent's offer to take over packaging of LILO. I have prepared a test package and it is online on http://www.coker.com.au/lilo/ . I will upload it to unstable shortly if I don't receive any complaints and I don't discover that I have done anything wrong. Currently there is no

Re: default mailbox for Netscape

2001-01-01 Thread Daniel Stone
> On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 02:35:46PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > I am running exim for my local network and would like to be able to pop > > > mail from the mail machine using netscape. What is the defaul t ma > > ilbox netscape tries to open on the mail server? > > > > what the hell is this

Re: default mailbox for Netscape

2001-01-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 02:35:46PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > > I am running exim for my local network and would like to be able to pop > > mail from the mail machine using netscape. What is the default ma > ilbox netscape tries to open on the mail server? > > what the hell is this? > a) it's s

Re: default mailbox for Netscape

2001-01-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 06:33:37PM -0700, developer list wrote: > I am running exim for my local network and would like to be able to pop mail > from the mail machine using netscape. What is the default mailbox netscape > tries to open on the mail server? Art, POP always opens the inbox. The ac

Re: Boxed Penguin Prototype showcases customization of Debian to build infrastructure server

2001-01-01 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello Sam, On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 11:27:44PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: >In order to actually get something done in an electronic office, we >need a certain amount of infrastructure. Thanks for your work. I'm now looking into it. I think besides the packages you are working on, for a prot