Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If glib, gtk, gnome, imlib, etc used versioned symbols then yes you > -might- advoid this. > > -HOWEVER- my understanding how how versioned symbols would need to be > implemented would make this pretty much impossible for a large portion of > the lib

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 Feb 1999, Gordon Matzigkeit wrote: > JG> Exactly what I mentioned during the libtool thread, however that > JG> doesn't seem to be important. Ideally we could have a > JG> /usr/lib/gnome-compat dir > > Bwahahahahah! :D My thoughts exactly :> We are going to do this again when libstdc++

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! > Jason Gunthorpe writes: >> We could change the SONAME to designate the break in >> compatibility. But then it wouldn't match upstream. It really >> isn't the upstream maintainer's fault that we released one version >> compiled against libglib 1.0, and one against libglib 1.1. JG

Re: Intent to package netStreamer

1999-02-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Shaleh wrote: : : On 01-Feb-99 Nathan E Norman wrote: : > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Shaleh wrote: : > : > [ intent to package snipped ] : > : > Is there a URL for this, or is the code only available via supernatural : > revelation? : : Only the truly blessed may wonder

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > > > In fact, imlib is only being pulled in once. The problem is that glib is > > > being pulled in twice (from libraries/binaries that were linked with > > > > The library that does this is imlib according to my investigation. > > Actually, it takes two librari

Re: Proposal for new architecture support/distribution

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
"Phillip R. Jaenke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kernel and hardware incompatibilities can lead to binary > incompatibilities. > Plus, IIRC, the current PowerPC distributions are all > compiled for UP. As I said, most RS/6000's are SMP. You'd have a separate RS/6000 kernel which would be comp

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale E. Martin) writes: > Oscar Levi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In my opinion, this problem is not sufficient to warrant an upload at > > this time since, contrary to the bug reporters claim, it does not > > prevent the packing from functioning. It is annoying, yes. >

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > > > > libgdk-imlib1 in slink did not seem to depend on any glib, in potato it > > > depends on a new and incompatible glib from potato BUT the soname was not > > > changed. So the instant you install this new libgdk-i

Re: Proposal for new architecture support/distribution

1999-02-01 Thread Phillip R. Jaenke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Edward John M. Brocklesby wrote: > Ok, so it has more features - why should it need a seperate distribution? If > you can add the i386 kernel code into the PowerPC, and only compile it in when > compiling a kernel for an RS/6000, that could g

Re: Bug#29166: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Branden Robinson
severity 30852 normal thanks Oh, *this* one. Silly me. On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 02:44:07PM +0100, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > Branden, this fixes a different bug, but it does not fix bug #30852 yet. > Bug #30852 does not have anything to do with the xbase package split > (which is in in fact so

Re: Debian's -rpath policy [was: What hack in ld.so?]

1999-02-01 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Feb 1, 1999, Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 12:19:48PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: >> > to do one of the above, the most sensible is to steal RH's patch so that >> > we are compatible. >> I agree. Option 1 is de

Re: Proposal for new architecture support/distribution

1999-02-01 Thread Phillip R. Jaenke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > Wouldn't that make more sense as a subarchitecture of the PowerPC > port. I gather that the userspace component would be the same. You'd > just need work on the kernel and installation process. Or are the > instruction sets so

Re: Crack? Cops?

1999-02-01 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, Bear Giles wrote: > I noticed in my slink snapshot (from last month) that 'cracklib2' exists, > 'crack-dict' is suggested but *doesn't* exist (either as a package or > in the 'Packages' list), and 'crack' is nowhere to be seen. I packaged cracklib2 and still plan on packagin

Re: Debian's -rpath policy [was: What hack in ld.so?]

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 12:19:48PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > > > In short, we have only three choices, regardless of what happens in > > > libtool: > > > > > > 1) Implement Red Hat's ugly patch in our libc5 ld.so, and thereby be > > >

Re: Proposal for new architecture support/distribution

1999-02-01 Thread Phillip R. Jaenke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > Unless I'm severely mistaken, the userland for all lines of Power* CPUs > should be identical, minus a few hardware-related programs. The major > portion of the work is kernel; if you can get them to boot, we'll >

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 03:30:41PM -0600, Stephen Crowley wrote: > > But that is not the reason why my first guess was non-free. It was > > the fact that mpg123 is in non-free, and x11amp is (according to > > the docs) based on it. > > I already have it packaged. It uses plugins for the decoder so

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 03:30:20PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 10:14:38PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > > I don't see why we ought to let some lawyers trying to make a good bluff > > > scare us. > > > > Fraunhofer institute holds the patent, we shouldn't take any chance

Re: What hack in ld.so?

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Ian Lance Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:52:48 -0700 (MST) >From: Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> That's not what I'd like libtool to do. I agree there is a problem to >> be fixed, I just think that libtool is not the only piece of softwa

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Jay Kominek
> mpg123 is in non-free because of its license. I did not find any > documentation anywhere that indicated that x11amp uses any mpg123 code. > (Where are you looking?) Since it's released as GPL, it's free. [EMAIL PROTECTED] jkominek/tmp]$ tar -tzf x11amp-0.9-alpha1.tar.gz | grep mpg123 x11amp

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > > libgdk-imlib1 in slink did not seem to depend on any glib, in potato it > > depends on a new and incompatible glib from potato BUT the soname was not > > changed. So the instant you install this new libgdk-imlib1 ~40 apps from > > slink silently stop working! >

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Stephen Crowley
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 10:14:38PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 03:05:01PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 04:02:13PM -0500, Shaleh wrote: > > > On 01-Feb-99 John Goerzen wrote: > > > > Why should it be non-free if it's GPL? > > > > > > the mp3 patent

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 10:14:38PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > I don't see why we ought to let some lawyers trying to make a good bluff > > scare us. > > Fraunhofer institute holds the patent, we shouldn't take any chances. The fact that they hold *a* patent does not put Debian in any sort of

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 03:05:01PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 04:02:13PM -0500, Shaleh wrote: > > On 01-Feb-99 John Goerzen wrote: > > > Why should it be non-free if it's GPL? > > > > the mp3 patent > Which nobody has guaranteed is valid or defensable in Germany, let alon

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Dale E. Martin
Samuel Tardieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Will users upgrading from Hamm to Slink suffer from the same problems? If so, > this may be a nightmare for them! FWIW, I've been running slink for months (and months!) and upgrading solely with apt, and this just bit me recently. So, it _could_ effe

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Josip Rodin wrote: > I saw the new alpha version, that has acceptable licence (GPL). > Although it's alpha, I'd like to see it packaged. If you aren't > interested, I'll do it. It would be nice... btw I just downloaded and compiled it... it does not work... I'm investigating n

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread John Goerzen
Which nobody has guaranteed is valid or defensable in Germany, let alone anywhere else. (I believe the EU does not allow software/algorithm patents, IIRC.) And which applies only to encoders. I don't see why we ought to let some lawyers trying to make a good bluff scare us. On Mon, Feb 01, 1999

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Shaleh
On 01-Feb-99 John Goerzen wrote: > Why should it be non-free if it's GPL? the mp3 patent

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread John Goerzen
Why should it be non-free if it's GPL? On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 09:51:35PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > Hi, > > I saw the new alpha version, that has acceptable licence (GPL). > Although it's alpha, I'd like to see it packaged. If you aren't > interested, I'll do it. > > For the -devel readers: s

Re: Proposal for new architecture support/distribution

1999-02-01 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 11:04:38AM -0800, Jim Pick wrote: > > "Phillip R. Jaenke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > A bit of history first, as it is somewhat important. For those of you who > > don't know; Linux runs on PowerPC's. Yes. It does. Now, what big names do > > we know that have PowerPC

x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi, I saw the new alpha version, that has acceptable licence (GPL). Although it's alpha, I'd like to see it packaged. If you aren't interested, I'll do it. For the -devel readers: section should be non-free, right? Thanks. -- enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/

Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs

1999-02-01 Thread Phillip R. Jaenke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 1 Feb 1999, Rob Browning wrote: > > Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely > > intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely > > flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a > > backflip or two midair, and make a p

Debian mention in O'Reilly "Open Sources" book

1999-02-01 Thread Bruce Perens
Debian is mentioned in my chapter of the O'Reilly book. You can read the draft at http://www.hams.com/OSD.html . Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-620-3502 NCI-1001

Re: packages to give away

1999-02-01 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 01:01:57AM +0100, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > hugs - A Haskell interpreter > > no outstanding bugs, there should be a new upstream version coming > > alog with a dfsg free licence, so it should be moved to main then > > I

Re: packages to give away

1999-02-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 01:01:57AM +0100, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > hugs - A Haskell interpreter > no outstanding bugs, there should be a new upstream version coming > alog with a dfsg free licence, so it should be moved to main then If nobody else wants this, I'd be happy to maintain the free ver

Re: stupid stats (was Re: xfree86_3.3.2.3a-9 (source i386 all) uploaded to master)

1999-02-01 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 01:50:53PM -0600, Rob Browning wrote: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ok, you asked for it, you got it. Note this is a count of source package > > uploads, not binary packages which would have inflated the hit count for > > people maintining multiple binary pa

Re: What to do with CPAN ?

1999-02-01 Thread Amos Shapira
On Mon, February 1 1999, Christian Hammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |Hi ! | |I wonder if there was already a discussion about what to do with all those |CPAN libraries. Should we package all of them (naaa...) or only the best, |or none of them (oohhh :-(). | |Or should we create some "Big-Packag

Re: Debian's -rpath policy [was: What hack in ld.so?]

1999-02-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 12:19:48PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > In short, we have only three choices, regardless of what happens in > > libtool: > > > > 1) Implement Red Hat's ugly patch in our libc5 ld.so, and thereby be > >bugwards compatible with everybody else's Linux. > > > 2) Fi

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 06:46:49PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > > > nonus.debian.org 23780 nonus.debian.org: libssl-dev is obsolete [220] > > > > (Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > > ... > > > Will non-us ever be fixed? > > > > It is but I'm afraid the bugs have not been closed. Hei

Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs

1999-02-01 Thread Rob Browning
"Alexander N. Benner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ok .. beat me for this .. but it does not realy meen 'good bye and > thankyou for the fish' ! Dolphins are not more intelligent then paes > or other animals. Intelligence referes also to somewhat of abstract > thinking which no animal has. Um.

Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs

1999-02-01 Thread Rob Browning
"Phillip R. Jaenke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely > intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely > flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a > backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) Right, and t

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > > > > I somehow sense that slink/potato gtk/gnome is going to be painfull.. > > > > I agree. I'm only planning to support Gnome 0.99.x/1.0 on potato. > > Oh, I was just reminded of this on the dpkg list.. The gtk (

Re: dinstall can now announce packages & close bugs for you

1999-02-01 Thread Santiago Vila
[ Congratulations! ] Guy Maor: > dinstall will look for a Format field of 1.6 and a new Closes field. Is the 1.6 format required for the automatic announcement? If yes: Would not be better to always announce it, regardless of the format? -- "a87a357fb4f02064e32569602502da28" (a truly random s

Re: Call for mascot! :-)

1999-02-01 Thread Rob Browning
First, we build this large badger... -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930

Re: Logo contest

1999-02-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 02:26:18PM -0500, Jonathan P Tomer wrote: > i agree, though, that there should be no restriction > that the logos actually chosen must both be drawn by the same person. I sincerley hpoe that we will have enough taste to choose a consistent set, and not two distinct, random

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > > > > And note that it links to libglib twice. Turns out this is because there > > > is two 'gdk-imlib1' packages with the same soname but linked against > > > different versions of glib! By my count we have 72 differ

Re: stupid stats (was Re: xfree86_3.3.2.3a-9 (source i386 all) uploaded to master)

1999-02-01 Thread Rob Browning
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok, you asked for it, you got it. Note this is a count of source package > uploads, not binary packages which would have inflated the hit count for > people maintining multiple binary packages. Well, I might have made it on the list if you weighted by compi

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > > I somehow sense that slink/potato gtk/gnome is going to be painfull.. > > I agree. I'm only planning to support Gnome 0.99.x/1.0 on potato. Oh, I was just reminded of this on the dpkg list.. The gtk (gdk? I forget) library packages have been internationalized

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Steve" == Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> But on the filesystem, the i686 directory is a symlink to Steve> the i586 directory, and i586/green_threads is empty. Steve> Perhaps this is a bug in dpkg? (I suspect that if you Steve> remove the jdk1.1 package and r

Re: Logo contest

1999-02-01 Thread Jonathan P Tomer
the rationale behind two logos is that one is a "debian is cool" logo and another is a "this is official debian" logo. they should look different enough that you can tell whether someone is merely praising debian or actually shipping it. i agree, though, that there should be no restriction that the

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > > And note that it links to libglib twice. Turns out this is because there > > is two 'gdk-imlib1' packages with the same soname but linked against > > different versions of glib! By my count we have 72 different package that > > depend on gdk-imlib1.. > > I made

Re: Debian's -rpath policy [was: What hack in ld.so?]

1999-02-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 Feb 1999, Gordon Matzigkeit wrote: > In short, we have only three choices, regardless of what happens in > libtool: > > 1) Implement Red Hat's ugly patch in our libc5 ld.so, and thereby be >bugwards compatible with everybody else's Linux. > 2) Find some other way to make -rpath on Debi

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is kinda neat, considering what we were talking about with libtool > and all, examine this ldd output: > > Wakko{jgg}~/work/apt#ldd `which wmakerconf ` > libgdk_imlib.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgdk_imlib.so.1 (0x4000f000) > libgtk.so.1

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Julian Gilbey
> > > nonus.debian.org 23780 nonus.debian.org: libssl-dev is obsolete [220] > > > (Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > ... > > Will non-us ever be fixed? > > It is but I'm afraid the bugs have not been closed. Heiko seems really > overloaded (and does not reply a lot even on other subje

Re: Proposal for new architecture support/distribution

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
"Phillip R. Jaenke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A bit of history first, as it is somewhat important. For those of you who > don't know; Linux runs on PowerPC's. Yes. It does. Now, what big names do > we know that have PowerPC based systems? Let's see. Apple. Amiga. UMax. > IBM RS/6000 (RISC Sys

jdk1.1 and checkVersions not fixed by reinstall

1999-02-01 Thread Oscar Levi
The reinstall may coerce some missing files to be properly installed. It doesn't fix the checkVersions warning. On inspecting the source I find the script. It claims to be part of the Linux port of the jdk and not from the sun sources. It is the debian/rules files that deletes it. To make the s

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Richard Braakman wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > > Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > > general 28850 gettext: security problem when used in setuid > > > > programs [0] (debian-devel@lists.debian.org) > > > > > > Everyone who has a package with a setuid program or somethin

Re: Intent to package GoldED

1999-02-01 Thread Andreas Plesner Jacobsen
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 06:04:45PM +0100, Andreas Plesner Jacobsen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 08:23:24AM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: > > > I intend to package GoldED when my developer-application processes > > > > > > From freshmeat appindex: > > > GoldED is a very nice console full-screen m

Re: Intent to package netStreamer

1999-02-01 Thread Shaleh
On 01-Feb-99 Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Shaleh wrote: > > [ intent to package snipped ] > > Is there a URL for this, or is the code only available via supernatural > revelation? Only the truly blessed may wonder upon its blessed page .. No (= http://flits102-126.flit

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Oscar Levi
> jdk1.1 works for me on a slink machine. It is true that Java on Debian seems > poorly supported and the maintainers overloaded. > I'll do an NMU to avoid the warning...but only if we (read as Brian) deem it necessary for release.

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Samuel Tardieu
On 1/02, Steve Dunham wrote: | | I have the same problem. The file does show up in "dpkg -L": | |/usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/i686/green_threads/java | | But on the filesystem, the i686 directory is a symlink to the i586 | directory, and i586/green_threads is empty. Perhaps this is a bug in | dpkg

Re: jdk1.1 grave bug (Was: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Samuel Tardieu
> "Stephane" == Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stephane> Sam's message indicates that the i686 directory is Stephane> used. Since the name includes a ".." could it be a symbolic Stephane> link problem? Sam, any symlink in /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin? Any Stephane> chance when deinstal

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Steve Dunham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale E. Martin) writes: > Oscar Levi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > In my opinion, this problem is not sufficient to warrant an upload at > > this time since, contrary to the bug reporters claim, it does not > > prevent the packing from functioning. It is annoying, yes. > In

Re: libg[dt]k-1.1.so.13? (was gnome-apt)

1999-02-01 Thread Jules Bean
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Thomas Gebhardt wrote: > Hi, > > when I tried to have a look at gnome-apt_0.3_i386.deb > I found that it depends on several potato packages. > I tried to install as much as needed (well, as the deb dependencies > indicate) but still get some missing so dependencies: > > # gno

Re: jdk1.1 grave bug (Was: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Ruud de Rooij
On 1999/02/01, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Monday 1 February 1999, at 10 h 54, the keyboard of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale E. Martin) wrote: > > java was not found in /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../bin/i686/green_threads/java > ... > > The binary is somehow actually missing, and I've not done anything

libg[dt]k-1.1.so.13? (was gnome-apt)

1999-02-01 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi, when I tried to have a look at gnome-apt_0.3_i386.deb I found that it depends on several potato packages. I tried to install as much as needed (well, as the deb dependencies indicate) but still get some missing so dependencies: # gnome-apt gnome-apt: error in loading shared libraries libgtk-1

Re: Intent to package GoldED

1999-02-01 Thread Andreas Plesner Jacobsen
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 08:23:24AM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: > > I intend to package GoldED when my developer-application processes > > > > From freshmeat appindex: > > GoldED is a very nice console full-screen mail/newsreader for > > Fidonet and Internet. It is one of the best of it's kind fo

Debian's -rpath policy [was: What hack in ld.so?]

1999-02-01 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! Speaking for myself as a Debian maintainer (not a libtool maintainer): Alexandre is angry because we have deliberately chosen not to fully implement Red Hat's ugly (and effective) ld.so hack, but yet we also claim that we're ``just following what everybody else is doing,'' and that none of th

Re: Logo contest

1999-02-01 Thread Randy Gobbel
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > ... we would like to have two logos: > one logo with a very liberal license that everyone is free to use (for example > on things like webpages, shirts, etc.), and a more official logo with a > restricted license which can only be used on more official things (like Cd's

Re: Intent to package GoldED

1999-02-01 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 04:16:39PM +0100, Andreas Plesner Jacobsen wrote: > I intend to package GoldED when my developer-application processes > > From freshmeat appindex: > GoldED is a very nice console full-screen mail/newsreader for > Fidonet and Internet. It is one of the best of it's kind f

Re: Call for mascot! :-)

1999-02-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 03:42:06PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. Just like Stampede has it? Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian

What to do with CPAN ?

1999-02-01 Thread Christian Hammers
Hi ! I wonder if there was already a discussion about what to do with all those CPAN libraries. Should we package all of them (naaa...) or only the best, or none of them (oohhh :-(). Or should we create some "Big-Packages" i.e. say the user "ok, you can get CPAN/Networking of CPAN/Databases but

jdk1.1 grave bug (Was: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Monday 1 February 1999, at 10 h 54, the keyboard of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale E. Martin) wrote: > java was not found in /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../bin/i686/green_threads/java ... > The binary is somehow actually missing, and I've not done anything weird as > far as I know. The other folks who are

Re: Intent to package netStreamer

1999-02-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Shaleh wrote: [ intent to package snipped ] Is there a URL for this, or is the code only available via supernatural revelation? -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Brian White
> > Hmmm... If things were installed by hand ("dpkg --install dpkglib...") > > or if install were to fail between the two packages, then you could have > > a problem where the install tool doesn't function, right? > > Right. But since libdpkg is still a part of the dpkg package we > shouldn't nee

Re: `Vedova Linux' (was forwarded message from Ian Murdock)

1999-02-01 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Ian Jackson wrote: > I've had a brief look at this; would anyone like to take a closer look > ? Not only the correct URL seem to be http://WWW.VEDOVANET.BBK.ORG/linux/vedova/, but given the filenames and directory layouts it rather seems based on Slackware than Debian... ;)

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Dale E. Martin
Oscar Levi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In my opinion, this problem is not sufficient to warrant an upload at > this time since, contrary to the bug reporters claim, it does not > prevent the packing from functioning. It is annoying, yes. Interesting that it works for you. It really doesn't fo

Re: Announce (and question): Masquerading PPP server based on Debian

1999-02-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I remember having looked at it but, IIRC, the source was less > comprehensible, which at the time was the most important thing. I don't think you would have to make any changes. It's design to be easily

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sunday 31 January 1999, at 0 h 48, the keyboard of Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > boot-floppies 32269 partion harddisk fails if WIN95_EXTENDED present > > [0] (Enrique Zanardi ) > > The report log is a little unclear. It looks like there is a version of cfdisk > that work

Intent to package GoldED

1999-02-01 Thread Andreas Plesner Jacobsen
I intend to package GoldED when my developer-application processes From freshmeat appindex: GoldED is a very nice console full-screen mail/newsreader for Fidonet and Internet. It is one of the best of it's kind for Fidonet and quite usable for Internet. For Internet mail and news you need a pr

`Vedova Linux' (was forwarded message from Ian Murdock)

1999-02-01 Thread Ian Jackson
I've had a brief look at this; would anyone like to take a closer look ? Ian. --- Begin Message --- --- start of forwarded message (RFC 934 encapsulation) --- Received: from optima.cs.arizona.edu (optima.CS.Arizona.EDU [192.12.69.5]) by baskerville.CS.Arizona.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) wi

Re: What hack in ld.so?

1999-02-01 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Feb 1, 1999, Bernard Dautrevaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Since modifying the next release of libtool won't contribute at all to >> fix the problem in already compiled programs, which are the only >> programs affected by this problem > I usually still build production code with a libc5 se

Re: -rpath with libtool and Debian Linux

1999-02-01 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Feb 1, 1999, Bernard Dautrevaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In general, it's convenient to store the path in the executable any >> time a shared library is installed in a directory which the dynamic >> linker does not search by default. > Especially if it is related to the executable. If it

RE: What hack in ld.so?

1999-02-01 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Alexandre Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 1999 11:39 PM > To: Buddha Buck > Cc: Jason Gunthorpe; Debian Developers; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: What hack in ld.so? > > > On Jan 29, 1999, Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: What hack in ld.so?

1999-02-01 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Feb 1, 1999, Bernard Dautrevaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is that I want to be able to obtain with libtool the > same service I can obtain usually without it (although with a lot > more difficulties): Build shared libraries and executables, that > will work on various libc5 or l

RE: -rpath with libtool and Debian Linux

1999-02-01 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Ian Lance Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 1999 11:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > debian-devel@lists.debian.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: -rpath with libtool and Debian Linux > >

Re: Bug#32595: remove obsolete and confusing acquisition methods: harddisk, mounted, cdrom, nfs

1999-02-01 Thread Martin Mitchell
Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But dpkg-multicd is more than multiple-cds. There's multi-nfs, > multi-mount, ... that replace nfs, mounted, ... > That's why we think dpkg default methods can be removed/extracted to a > different package. Ok, I didn't realize this. If the multi-mou

Re: What hack in ld.so?

1999-02-01 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Feb 1, 1999, Bernard Dautrevaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once more this proves that -rpath is harmful: If Devian use -rpath thsi > will *force* the other distribution makers to place Devian-specific > stuff in /dev (and if Devian was crazy, placing standard stuff in /dev, > their programs

RE: Ian's solution [was: What hack in ld.so?]

1999-02-01 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Gordon Matzigkeit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 1999 5:41 AM > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Ian's solution [was: What hack in ld.so?] > > > Hi, all! > > There's been so much traffic on this thread, th

RE: What hack in ld.so?

1999-02-01 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus Brinkmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 1999 12:53 AM > To: Jason Gunthorpe; Alexandre Oliva > Cc: Debian Developers; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: What hack in ld.so? > > > Hi, > > On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 04:06:04PM -0700, J

Re: Bug#29166: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 10:54:20AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > xbase 30852 X packages do not upgrade automatically due to name change. > > > > [41] (Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > > [...] > > > > There's supposed to be a new versio

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Brian White wrote: > Hmmm... If things were installed by hand ("dpkg --install dpkglib...") > or if install were to fail between the two packages, then you could have > a problem where the install tool doesn't function, right? Right. But since libdpkg is still a part of the dpkg packag

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jonel Rienton wrote: > Slink's latest lprng is broken, it's give me a problem about permission or > something'. Vincent already uploaded a fix for that. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a messa

Re: Call for mascot! :-)

1999-02-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously John Hasler wrote: > Has been taken by... ? Stampede Linux iirc. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leide

RE: What hack in ld.so?

1999-02-01 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Alexandre Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 1999 12:29 AM > To: Jason Gunthorpe > Cc: Debian Developers; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: What hack in ld.so? > > > On Jan 30, 1999, Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If

Re: Debian Security Issues

1999-02-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Saturday 30 January 1999, at 23 h 31, the keyboard of Larry Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The professor asked me to find out : > "What is distinctive about Debian Linux development that affects > its assurance? " As a recent Debian developer (Sep. 1998), let me give my opinion:

Intend to package Net-RawIP-Perl.deb

1999-02-01 Thread Christian Hammers
Hi ! I would like to package the Perl module "Net::RawIP". It is, like the name suggests, a low level Networking module. It allows you to create any kind of IP package and gives special support for TCP, UDP and ICMP. There is even raw Ethernet support. This package makes it possible to write "t

Re: Installation Profiles [was: Re: Reality check!]

1999-02-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Saturday 30 January 1999, at 16 h 41, the keyboard of Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, let's be serious again: unfortunately this actually means that > some of the most obvious installation profiles of slink stay to be > unnecessarily bloated. Giving the size of the current pro

Logo contest

1999-02-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Here is the announcement of the logo contest I intend to send out later today, since the gimp contest starts today. If anyone has commments please tell me about them so I can make changes. -- As you might know Debian GNU

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 12:05:27PM +0100, Richard Braakman wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > > Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > > general 28850 gettext: security problem when used in setuid > > > > programs [0] (debian-devel@lists.debian.org) > > > > > > Everyone who has a package with a setuid

intent to package vstream/rtjpeg

1999-02-01 Thread Robert Edmonds
i intend to package rtjpeg and vstream: rtjpeg is real time jpeg compressor with client/server mechanisms to allow running a BTTV card over a network using ~1/10 of 10BaseT bandwidth; and vstream is an app targeted at making mpeg movies from a BTTV stream. -- Robert Edmonds [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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