Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-27 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:08:03AM +0200, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > Le 27/08/2015 05:33, Michael Gilbert a écrit : > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >> So quite frankly, the fact that Debian people now attack Dirk, who has > >> been bending over backwards over these kinds

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-27 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
Le 27/08/2015 05:33, Michael Gilbert a écrit : > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: >> So quite frankly, the fact that Debian people now attack Dirk, who has >> been bending over backwards over these kinds of stupidities, is not a >> big surprise. I think it's in the Debian DNA

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > So quite frankly, the fact that Debian people now attack Dirk, who has > been bending over backwards over these kinds of stupidities, is not a > big surprise. I think it's in the Debian DNA to care more about rules > than about technical sani

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Mikko Rasa wrote: > > Have you considered in-source copies of the modified libraries? Ehh. That's what subsurface has done since day#1 - even back when I maintained it (long long ago), I refused to link against a dynamic libdivecomputer, because the libdivecompute

Bug#789875: [Pkg-running-devel] Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
Hello, can we please stop? Christoph, if you want to take over subsurface in debian you can. But patches that need to be maintained are going to be huge; it is a lot of work. If you don't intend to do this work you can stop using it, compile their source code or get their binaries. Either way thi

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Mikko Rasa
Since these emails managed to escape my mail filters and catch my attention, I'll butt in with my opinion. Apologies if this has been said already. Have you considered in-source copies of the modified libraries? Perhaps as git submodules? If you take full control of building and installing

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Anton Lundin
On 26 August, 2015 - Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 17:55 -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: ... > > An application should be able to bring its own libraries for those > > libraries that it is so tightly coupled with that it makes no sense > > to > > allow random combinations.

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 09:05 -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Some of us have expressed our dismay with the way distributions work > these days. Well to be honest such dismay comes usually always from the same fraction within open source... which is typically exactly that fraction which tries to put mor

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Dirk Hohndel (d...@hohndel.org): > We have asked SPECIFICALLY Debian to stop providing an out-dated version > of Subsurface to its users as that caused confusion and problems for our > users and support burdon for us. Debian was unwilling to follow our > choices of open source components t

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 04:40:43PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 13:40 +0300, Lubomir I. Ivanov wrote: > > your approach for convincing is offensive and unwise. > Well if upstreams are effectively hostile against core paradigms of the > FLOSS community, it must expe

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 13:40 +0300, Lubomir I. Ivanov wrote: > your approach for convincing is offensive and unwise. Well if upstreams are effectively hostile against core paradigms of the FLOSS community, it must expect that people won't be happy with it. > as a peace of software it now no longer

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Lubomir I. Ivanov
On 26 August 2015 at 05:38, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 17:55 -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: >> Being called stupid and arrogant is usually not a great conversation >> opener, but hey, I've been called worse. > Well I should have probably immediately apologised along the wa

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-25 Thread Christian PERRIER
> libgit,... well I'm not really into the subsurface code, but I never > understood why you introduced that as a storage backend. > Even the most prolific divers I know don't have more then 30k-50k > dives, and usually these people stopped logging there day to day dives > decades ago. > Using a pl

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-25 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 17:55 -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Being called stupid and arrogant is usually not a great conversation > opener, but hey, I've been called worse. Well I should have probably immediately apologised along the way, just for the sake of politeness... But the believe to know it m

Bug#789875: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-06-24 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Source: subsurface Version: 4.3-1~exp1 Severity: serious subsurface FTBFS against recent libgit: compiling save-git.c save-git.c: In function 'new_directory': save-git.c:480:2: warning: implicit declaration of function 'git_treebuilder_create' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] git_treebuilder_