Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2017-08-07 Thread Niko Tyni
Update: here's a related IRC discussion from today prompted by #870472. Apologies for the lack of wrapping. 21:52 < ntyni> Dom: did you see #870472 ? can't recall if dropping prename was intentional or not 21:52 -zwiebelbot:#debian-perl- Debian#870472: rename: Please provide 'prename' as well a

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2016-05-09 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 08:18:50PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: > On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 10:29:30PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 10:04:03PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:53:26PM +0200, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 21,

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2016-05-09 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 03:51:06PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 03:12:32PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > [CCing debian-devel to get feedback on a de facto 'standard' tool]. > > So to summarise: for many years the perl package has provided > > /usr/bin/rename, a

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2016-05-09 Thread Niko Tyni
On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 10:29:30PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 10:04:03PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:53:26PM +0200, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 06:54:01PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > > > > > > JFYI: I

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2016-05-08 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 10:04:03PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:53:26PM +0200, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 06:54:01PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > > > > JFYI: I feel that this search wasn't sufficient. I miss at least two > > > packages co

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2016-05-02 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:53:26PM +0200, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 06:54:01PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > > JFYI: I feel that this search wasn't sufficient. I miss at least two > > packages co-maintained by myself and missing in that list: xymon and > > hobbit-plugins:

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2015-08-24 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 06:54:01PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > Hi Dominic, > > Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > Details of the use of (p)rename in your package follow: > > JFYI: I feel that this search wasn't sufficient. I miss at least two > packages co-maintained by myself and missing in that lis

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2015-08-21 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi Dominic, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > Details of the use of (p)rename in your package follow: JFYI: I feel that this search wasn't sufficient. I miss at least two packages co-maintained by myself and missing in that list: xymon and hobbit-plugins: [...] > Anton Gladky >vtk6 (U) > > Basti

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2015-08-18 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 11:58:07AM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > Hi, > > Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > 3) Submit a new lintian check for things which use rename or prename in > >build scripts, advising of changes needed. > > Please also care about maintainer scripts (postinst, etc.). I'd at >

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-05-06 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > 3) Submit a new lintian check for things which use rename or prename in >build scripts, advising of changes needed. Please also care about maintainer scripts (postinst, etc.). I'd at least check the following files: * debian/rules * debian/{post,pre}{inst,rm}

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-05-05 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 03:12:32PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > [CCing debian-devel to get feedback on a de facto 'standard' tool]. > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 03:34:29PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:59:04PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Jan

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-09 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 05:23:32PM -0500, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > Back in 2004 before I was a debian developer, I was looking to package a > script I wrote called patmv. patmv was inspired by rename perl but has > slightly different behavior. You can find the thread about it here: > > https://li

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-08 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 09:28:03AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> Hi Gregor, >> >> On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 07:31:02PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote: >> > It's the package for the CPAN File::Rename distribution, and >> > therefore named accordingly to >> > https://ww

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-07 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 09:28:03AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Hi Gregor, > > On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 07:31:02PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote: > > It's the package for the CPAN File::Rename distribution, and > > therefore named accordingly to > > https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/p

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi Gregor, On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 07:31:02PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote: > It's the package for the CPAN File::Rename distribution, and > therefore named accordingly to > https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/perl-policy/ch-module_packages.html#s-package_names > in Debian. Thanks for po

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-02 Thread Stuart Prescott
Hi Dominic, One thing to be careful with here is that /usr/bin/prename is currently part of the Build-Essential set (dpkg-dev depends on perl). This means that there are a lot of packages with debian/rules that contain lines like: prename 's/\.py//' $(CURDIR)/debian/…/usr/bin/* If the beha

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2014-02-02 at 19:42 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 03:12:32PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > > > So to summarise: for many years the perl package has provided > > /usr/bin/rename, a stanalone utility implemented in perl. The issue is we > > don't want to provide

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-02 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 02.02.2014, 19:31 +0100 schrieb gregor herrmann: > On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:05:45 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > A > > > maintained version is available as a separate package, > > > libfile-rename-perl. > > This is a frustrating package name for an end user binary. Reminds

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi, I regularly use rename(1) and miss it on non-Debian systems. The fact perl provides it currently doesn't matter to me (or I'd argue any end user) > On 2 Feb 2014, at 15:12, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > A > maintained version is available as a separate package, libfile-rename-perl. This is a

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-02 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:05:45 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > A > > maintained version is available as a separate package, libfile-rename-perl. > This is a frustrating package name for an end user binary. Reminds > me of the difficulty I have remembering which package the LWP-tools > "GET" and "

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 03:12:32PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > So to summarise: for many years the perl package has provided > /usr/bin/rename, a stanalone utility implemented in perl. The issue is we > don't want to provide the utility from the perl package any more because > it's been a

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-02 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
[CCing debian-devel to get feedback on a de facto 'standard' tool]. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 03:34:29PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:59:04PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Niko Tyni wrote: > > > I suggest something like > > > > > > - package

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-01-18 Thread Richard Hartmann
Hi, Personally, I depend on it as part of any base system. To me, a dependency seems cleaner. Plus, it's easier to get rid of if need be. Richard

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-01-18 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:59:04PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Niko Tyni wrote: > > I note that we really ship the script as /usr/bin/prename and manage > > /usr/bin/rename with the alternatives system. This was introduced due > > to #304705 but turned out to be completely us

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-01-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Niko Tyni wrote: > I note that we really ship the script as /usr/bin/prename and manage > /usr/bin/rename with the alternatives system. This was introduced due > to #304705 but turned out to be completely useless: the intention was > to offer the choice of /usr/bin/rename.ul fr

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-01-14 Thread Niko Tyni
[Don: Cc'ing you due to your participation in #304705. See below.] On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:54:10AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote: > Package: perl > Version: 5.18.1-5 > Severity: normal > the rename(1) which ships with perl is located in > > debian/rename > > in the source package and stuc

Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-01-12 Thread Richard Hartmann
Package: perl Version: 5.18.1-5 Severity: normal Hi all, the rename(1) which ships with perl is located in debian/rename in the source package and stuck at a version from 1998: # $RCSfile: rename,v $$Revision: 1.5 $$Date: 1998/12/18 16:16:31 $ CPAN[1] carries a version 1.8 from 2010, but