Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-21 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 03:28:44PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 09:09:37PM -0700, Grant H. wrote: > > Ok, I will preface this by saying I do NOT speak for the FSF. However, > > in my personal opinion the new documentation does in fact clarify the > > position of Debi

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 09:09:37PM -0700, Grant H. wrote: > Ok, I will preface this by saying I do NOT speak for the FSF. However, > in my personal opinion the new documentation does in fact clarify the > position of Debian but I don't think it does enough to fix the "issue" > from LibrePlanet's v

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-20 Thread Grant H.
Ok, I will preface this by saying I do NOT speak for the FSF. However, in my personal opinion the new documentation does in fact clarify the position of Debian but I don't think it does enough to fix the "issue" from LibrePlanet's view. Here are a couple examples of why I think that: 1) The new

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:06:32AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 01:01:56AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: ... > minor communication nitpick, I'd personally just add a couple more > things to the "100% free" pages: 1/ that we _recommend_ running only > free software from

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 01:01:56AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > I think the debian-reference can mention non-free, but should take > > good care of clarifying the risks that the users take in picking > > software from there (lack of freedom and, more practically, lack of > > support from Debian, as

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, Thanks for your comment Stefano. (I have made further efforts as below.) On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 03:48:56PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 02:32:07AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: > > > Sorry, also to just c

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 02:32:07AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: > > Sorry, also to just clarify the bug and what the issue is. > > Thanks. maybe I should have read link in detail so it is partially my > fault too. Excuse me. Let me join the

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 21:43 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:54:12AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 02:32 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: > > [...] > > > > Problem: In 9.7.

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:54:12AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 02:32 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: > [...] > > > Problem: In 9.7.6. "Non-free hardware drivers" states as follows: > > > ===

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 02:32 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: [...] > > Problem: In 9.7.6. "Non-free hardware drivers" states as follows: > > == > > Although most of hardware drivers are available as free softwa

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-06 Thread Grant H.
1) Thank you for the tips regarding the Debian community. I am new so please excuse any faux pas I make. I will surely preface any bug reports with what you mentioned. 2) I can't speak on behalf of the FSF as I am an associate member (I contribute financially) but am not an employee or spokesman

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: > Sorry, also to just clarify the bug and what the issue is. Thanks. maybe I should have read link in detail so it is partially my fault too. Excuse me. I think we need to be clear what stage of action is going on and what actions ar

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-03 Thread Grant H.
Sorry, also to just clarify the bug and what the issue is. If Zak wants to get the Debian project endorsed by the GNU project[1] as of now Debian would have to abide by the Guidelines for Free System Distributions [2]. This particular package is one such bug that would threaten that endorsement b