Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-25 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Santiago Vila) hast geschrieben: > These days, the only sensible way, if any, to "inform" a user that his > email has not been accepted is by giving a SMTP REJECT to the incoming > SMTP connection, and we would not be sending any email by doing that. > > If the email is sent by a true

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-24 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Cord Beermann wrote: > if we send out a notification for each of those, [...] No, no, no. Obviously, I have not explained myself well enough. Sorry for that. I have never, ever, proposed that we send email notifications of any kind, that would be crazy for a lot of reasons,

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-24 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Santiago Vila) hast geschrieben: > What I propose, mainly, is that you do something about the 0% feedback > ratio problem. we silently dropped about 25000 Mails yesterday, so if we send out a notification for each of those, we would produce: * Mails that bloat our mailq, because the D

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-23 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Cord Beermann wrote: > > Except that, in some sense, we are already in the hands of non-Debian > > parties. Just take a look at the spam stored in the list archives. > > No. all filters are is in the Hand of Debian listmasters. It's our > decision how we weight suggestions fr

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-23 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Santiago Vila) hast geschrieben: > > one day every RBL goes away, and how it does this isn't predictable. i > > remember at least one RBL, which started to respond for every request with > > 'Spamrelay' to get rid of the users. That day (weeks) some people > > didn'T get any spam. (they

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Cord Beermann wrote: > Hallo! Du (Santiago Vila) hast geschrieben: > > > I'm sorry about your bad experiences with some DNSBLs, but we should > > judge a DNSBL by their own merits, not by the pitfalls of the others. > > one day every RBL goes away, and how it does this isn't

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-22 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 02:29:31PM -0600, Cord Beermann wrote: > one day every RBL goes away, and how it does this isn't predictable. i > remember at least one RBL, which started to respond for every request with > 'Spamrelay' to get rid of the users. That day (weeks) some people > didn'T get any s

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-22 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Santiago Vila) hast geschrieben: > I'm sorry about your bad experiences with some DNSBLs, but we should > judge a DNSBL by their own merits, not by the pitfalls of the others. one day every RBL goes away, and how it does this isn't predictable. i remember at least one RBL, which starte

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Cord Beermann wrote: > Hallo! Du (Santiago Vila) hast geschrieben: > > > As before, I think it is also time that Debian reconsider the idea of > > "filtering everything after it has been received" which is currently > > working at lists.debian.org. We could use a DNSBL which

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-20 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Santiago Vila) hast geschrieben: > As before, I think it is also time that Debian reconsider the idea of > "filtering everything after it has been received" which is currently > working at lists.debian.org. We could use a DNSBL which lists *just* > open proxies, like cbl.abuseat.org, an

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-17 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 11:38:27PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > However, I bet that if people cared to report each and every of these > "bugs" using the BTS (specially, for every spam email which isn't stopped > by the filters and it's distributed to the lists), the Debian listmasters > would be c

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-17 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Glenn Maynard wrote: > reopen 356152 > retitle Messages being falsely identified as spam > thanks > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 06:04:22AM -0800, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > > >My messages to d-legal aren't being delivered, and I havn't seen > > any bounces. they have

Bug#356152: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered)

2006-03-17 Thread Glenn Maynard
reopen 356152 retitle Messages being falsely identified as spam thanks On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 06:04:22AM -0800, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > >My messages to d-legal aren't being delivered, and I havn't seen any bounces. > > they have been identified as spam. This is a bug, since they are

Bug#356152: Messages from unsubscribed addresses not being delivered

2006-03-09 Thread Glenn Maynard
Package: lists.debian.org Severity: normal My messages to d-legal aren't being delivered, and I havn't seen any bounces. It looks related to the fact that I'm posting from a different address than I'm subscribed--"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" vs "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", and I'll work around it on my end by not