Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2006-06-18 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 05:51:16PM +0100, Stephen Kell wrote: > Is there any reason why Jan's suggested changes haven't been made? I too > would be very happy to see them applied. Lameness of the maintainer. (Oops, that's me) I'm currently testing this. Cheers, Michael -- http://www.worldforge

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2006-06-13 Thread Stephen Kell
Is there any reason why Jan's suggested changes haven't been made? I too would be very happy to see them applied. Stephen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2005-12-17 Thread Jan Schulz
Hi You, Michael Koch wrote: > If there is a constructive patch which is not too hard to maintain and > is not too intrusive to change Eclipse' behavior drastically I will > apply it for sure. AFAIK, there is a easy patch to debian/rules: Just change one debhelper call to add the dependencies of

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-17 Thread Erwan David
Le Sat 17/12/2005, Arnaud Vandyck disait > 1° This is not a bug for me, Eclipse runs fine on Debian... and with > free software; For me the software is not really free if it is a prison for the user. Gnome is a bunch of ill-designed software whose only goal is to do "as windows do". It is just wh

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-17 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 11:55:15AM +0100, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Erwan David wrote: > > Yasd that would make easier for me to explain that eclipse is a > > windows only thing > > > > If you choose to make yoursellf dependant on people who claim

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erwan David wrote: > Yasd that would make easier for me to explain that eclipse is a > windows only thing > > If you choose to make yoursellf dependant on people who claim that > "microsoft waéy is the only way to use a computer",be logical and make >

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Eric
Hi, I don't want to add to the confusion, so I just reply to you. Feel to forward if you think my email is constructive enough to be considered ;-) > On 16-Dec-05, at 3:19 AM, Erwan David wrote: > >We use GNOME-VFS to implement the Program API. It's used to: > > - determine what your sys

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Erwan David
Le Fri 16/12/2005, Billy Biggs disait > On 16-Dec-05, at 3:19 AM, Erwan David wrote: > > >No eclipse (the software) depends on *gtk* libs. Even eclipse.org does > >not cite gnome as a requirements. *YOU* impose gnome. > > Erwan, what part about my description of our use of GNOME is > confusing?

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Billy Biggs
On 16-Dec-05, at 3:19 AM, Erwan David wrote: No eclipse (the software) depends on *gtk* libs. Even eclipse.org does not cite gnome as a requirements. *YOU* impose gnome. Erwan, what part about my description of our use of GNOME is confusing? We use GNOME-VFS to implement the Program API.

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Erwan David
> > OK. I've had enough of this, please. And do you think I'm not fed upo witrh people wanting to impose gnome to me ? > Since the technical side of the bug report has been excessively dealt with, > I suggest closing it as "not a bug", since we have an Eclipse developer's > confirmation. Y

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Dalibor Topic
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 09:19:43AM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Le Fri 16/12/2005, Michael Koch disait > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:32:11AM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > > > Le Wed 14/12/2005, Michael Koch disait > > > > > > > I would like that you check the facts before writing such words. > > > >

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Erwan David
Le Fri 16/12/2005, Michael Koch disait > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:32:11AM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > > Le Wed 14/12/2005, Michael Koch disait > > > > > I would like that you check the facts before writing such words. > > > > > > You are free not to use the Eclipse packaged by Debian but e.g. t

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-15 Thread Erwan David
Le Wed 14/12/2005, Billy Biggs disait > > It needs Mozilla for the embedded browser, as it uses the Gecko > embedding API. Erwan is correct that if this is not available, the > help system will launch in an external web browser. However, this is > a degredation of functionality. We would lik

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-15 Thread Michael Koch
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:32:11AM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Le Wed 14/12/2005, Michael Koch disait > > > I would like that you check the facts before writing such words. > > > > You are free not to use the Eclipse packaged by Debian but e.g. the Help > > system which is a vital system for some

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-14 Thread Billy Biggs
Andrew, you don't need to go to such incredible feats of sleuthing. :) I am an SWT developer and I think I already explained quite clearly in this bug report what dependencies are there and what are needed. I have an eclipse.org binary release (3.1.1) unpacked in ~/bin/ eclipse on my sarge

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-14 Thread Billy Biggs
On 14-Dec-05, at 3:32 AM, Erwan David wrote: I would like that you check the facts before writing such words. You are free not to use the Eclipse packaged by Debian but e.g. the Help system which is a vital system for some users will not work. Other thinks don't work either. Upstream Eclips

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-14 Thread Andrew Vaughan
Hi everyone. [Erwan, this mail is for the eclipse maintainers. I've kept you cc'ed to keep you in the discussion.] On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:32, Erwan David wrote: > And that doies not explain th gnome dependency, which is heavier, and > tottaly inadequate and, I repeat DANGEROUS. I have an eclips

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-14 Thread Erwan David
Le Wed 14/12/2005, Michael Koch disait > I would like that you check the facts before writing such words. > > You are free not to use the Eclipse packaged by Debian but e.g. the Help > system which is a vital system for some users will not work. Other > thinks don't work either. Upstream Eclipse

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-13 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:36:29PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Le Sat 10/12/2005, Michael Koch disait > > I agree with you, Stephan. Tagging it 'wontfix' is the best thing. Or > > just close it. We can either try to ship an Eclipse that works out of > > the box or a an Eclipse that needs much help

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-11 Thread Andrew Vaughan
Hi I'm a debian user, not a debian developer, but I feel the need to chime in here. On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:36, Erwan David wrote: > > So you want to oblige people to use the pile of crap that gnome is. MY > freedom is also to NOT use software I think is ill designed and is a > danger. > So don't

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Erwan David
Le Sat 10/12/2005, Michael Koch disait > I agree with you, Stephan. Tagging it 'wontfix' is the best thing. Or > just close it. We can either try to ship an Eclipse that works out of > the box or a an Eclipse that needs much help from the admin to install > additional stuff that Eclipse not depends

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 02:53:13PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Le Sat 10/12/2005, Stephan Michels disait > > On 12/7/05, Erwan David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Package: eclipse > > > Severity: normal > > > > > > sudo apt-get -u install eclipse > > > Password: > > > Reading package lists... Do

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 02:42:41PM +0100, Stephan Michels wrote: > On 12/7/05, Erwan David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Package: eclipse > > Severity: normal > > > > sudo apt-get -u install eclipse > > Password: > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree... Done > > The follow

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Billy Biggs
On 10-Dec-05, at 8:53 AM, Erwan David wrote: The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine type and icons etc. for a given file. False, eclipse and swt work perfectly without gnome. Hi Erwan, I'm an SWT developer.

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Erwan David
Le Sat 10/12/2005, Stephan Michels disait > On 12/7/05, Erwan David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Package: eclipse > > Severity: normal > > > > sudo apt-get -u install eclipse > > Password: > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree... Done > > The following extra packages will

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Stephan Michels
On 12/7/05, Erwan David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package: eclipse > Severity: normal > > sudo apt-get -u install eclipse > Password: > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jd

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-07 Thread Erwan David
Package: eclipse Severity: normal sudo apt-get -u install eclipse Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform eclipse-p