On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 02:53:13PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Le Sat 10/12/2005, Stephan Michels disait > > On 12/7/05, Erwan David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Package: eclipse > > > Severity: normal > > > > > > sudo apt-get -u install eclipse > > > Password: > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree... Done > > > The following extra packages will be installed: > > > dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde > > > eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-common eclipse-rcp > > > eclipse-rcp-common eclipse-source gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-keyring > > > gnome-mime-data junit libbcel-java libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common > > > libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcommons-beanutils-java > > > libcommons-collections-java libcommons-collections3-java > > > libcommons-dbcp-java libcommons-digester-java libcommons-el-java > > > libcommons-fileupload-java libcommons-launcher-java > > > libcommons-logging-java > > > libcommons-modeler-java libcommons-pool-java libfam0c102 libgconf2-4 > > > libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 > > > libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 > > > libgnomevfs2-common libhal-storage0 libhal0 libjsch-java > > > liblog4j1.2-java > > > liblucene-java liblucene-java-doc libmx4j-java liborbit2 libregexp-java > > > libscrollkeeper0 libservlet2.4-java libsmbclient libswt3.1-gtk-java > > > libswt3.1-gtk-jni libtomcat5-java mozilla-browser scrollkeeper > > > shared-mime-info zenity > > > > > > Which means 195 MB on disk... > > > > > > eclipse does not need gnome, so there is a dependency problem on this > > > side. Same thing with mozilla-browser. > > > > The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example > > org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine > > type and > > icons etc. for a given file. > > False, eclipse and swt work perfectly without gnome. > > > It seems that the SWT libraries handle the case if the > > gnome libs doesn't exist properly. But I don't think it's a good idea > > to remove the dependencies. Maybe a solution is to use recommendations > > instead. > > Is it a good idea to impose gnome to those who do not want it ? > > > And the dependency to mozila-broser is needed for the SWT Browser widget. > > You > > should be able to use firefox instead, but nevertheless a browser is needed. > > eclipse works without a browser installed. You put restrictions on its use... > > > > In any case this makes the package uninstallable here (no gnome). > > > > Sad to hear, but to be honest if you can't spare 195 MB of diskspace > > then you won't > > have much fun with Eclipse. > > Its more a matter of policy : you as maintainer put arbitrary restrictions on > the use of the software. > > > I tend to tag the report as WONTFIX, but wait on an opinion from Michael > > Koch. > > Do debian policy allow maintainers to include dependencies which are not > upstream ? > > I do not want to use gnome, f I follow you I should stop using debian ?
You are wrong. The dependencies ARE upstream too. With the stuff missing Eclipse is just crippled. A not working help system (because the web browser is missing) is a good example for a broken application. Cheers, Michael -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
