> From: Gavin Smith
> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 21:45:03 +0100
>
> And now I have warnings with this manual (patch at the end of this mail):
>
> $ TEXINFO_XS_STRUCTURE=0 ../tta/perl/texi2any.pl info.texi
> info.texi:461: warning: unexpected node `Help-]' in menu
> info.texi:462: warning: unexpected
> From: Gavin Smith
> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 20:47:31 +0100
> Cc: pertu...@free.fr, bug-texinfo@gnu.org
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 02:28:44PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > As an example of a manual whose structure is not a tree, but is
> > well-thought out, see info.texi. I'd expect to see su
On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 02:15:05AM +0200, pertu...@free.fr wrote:
> > Patrice: the
> > "$menu_node_relations->{'associated_section'}->{'section_directions'}->{'next'}->{'associated_node'}->{'element'}"
> > stuff is very verbose. All this is doing is finding the next
> > node based on sectioning.
> > In the default case, when using @documentinfo, the copying text would be
> > output
> > on the verso of the title page in PDF output. No separate command would be
> > necessary.
>
> It is necessary if the user wants a specific formatting different than
> the default.
Could we support input
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 09:45:03PM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote:
> And now I have warnings with this manual (patch at the end of this mail):
>
> $ TEXINFO_XS_STRUCTURE=0 ../tta/perl/texi2any.pl info.texi
> info.texi:461: warning: unexpected node `Help-]' in menu
> info.texi:462: warning: unexpected no
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 10:02:06PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:28:07 +0200
> > From: Patrice Dumas
> >
> Are you talking about info_indices_of_file_buffer? It does this:
>
> /* Grovel the names of the nodes found in this file. */
> if (file_buffer->tags)
>
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 08:47:33PM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote:
> > As an example of a manual whose structure is not a tree, but is
> > well-thought out, see info.texi. I'd expect to see such warnings
> > there as well (unless the few explicit node pointers it has will avoid
> > that), although the s
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 08:53:22PM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote:
> Yes, I believe I said this in another message. I'll try again to explain
> how I think Info should find Info nodes:
D'oh, I keep on saying "Info nodes", I meant "index nodes".
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 10:23:59PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > From: Gavin Smith
> > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 19:54:36 +0100
> >
> > I also don't think it is a huge restriction to have "Index" in the
> > node name. Non-English Info manuals could have English node names, or
> > they could have
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 02:28:44PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > So while the Info output is basically fine, output that doesn't use
> > menus, including the default HTML output and output with TeX, has
> > problems. Hence I believe we should keep the new warnings with
> > CHECK_NORMAL_MENU_STRU
> From: Gavin Smith
> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 19:54:36 +0100
>
> I also don't think it is a huge restriction to have "Index" in the
> node name. Non-English Info manuals could have English node names, or
> they could have the word "Index" in addition to the translation.
Info files that don't sup
> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:28:07 +0200
> From: Patrice Dumas
>
> Hello,
>
> In the Info reader, the node name for "Index" is checked in addition to
> the presence of an index (with (node->flags & N_IsIndex), and possibly
> the presence of non empty menu).
>
> I think that it is wrong to do t
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 07:32:04PM +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 04:39:14PM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote:
> > As I remember, the marker for an index node (^@^H[index^@^H]) was not
> > added by older versions of texi2any/makeinfo. So there are Info files
> > out there that do no
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 04:39:14PM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote:
> As I remember, the marker for an index node (^@^H[index^@^H]) was not
> added by older versions of texi2any/makeinfo. So there are Info files
> out there that do not have such a marker in Info nodes.
Actually, there is a second reason
On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 07:49:58PM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote:
> Coming back to this thread as I was prompted by Patrice:
>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-texinfo/2025-01/msg00066.html
>
> I don't have a complete proposal but will post some comments to help
> get this conversation going a
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 05:28:07PM +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the Info reader, the node name for "Index" is checked in addition to
> the presence of an index (with (node->flags & N_IsIndex), and possibly
> the presence of non empty menu).
>
> I think that it is wrong to do that
Hello,
In the Info reader, the node name for "Index" is checked in addition to
the presence of an index (with (node->flags & N_IsIndex), and possibly
the presence of non empty menu).
I think that it is wrong to do that, firstly because having (node->flags &
N_IsIndex)
is more accurante, an Ind
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