Am Mittwoch, 10. Juni 2009 04:02:18 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net:
> I just realized though that it could be made a bit shorter still by
> replacing "[...] as much control over their computing environment as
> possible" with "[...] maximal control over their computing environment".
> What do the
Am Montag, 8. Juni 2009 20:51:44 schrieb Thomas Schwinge:
> You didn't add the copyright and license boilerplate on that page.
> Intentionally or just forgotten?
Just forgotten - nano doesn't fill them in automatically for me :)
> In general, not neccessarily Hurd-specific, is there consensus ``
Am Montag, 8. Juni 2009 20:54:43 schrieb Thomas Schwinge:
> This is wrong, as -- in my understanding -- these #s are for logical
> grouping and not for stating how big these headlines should be rendered
> on the screen. In my opinion, all pages (this is wrong in other pages as
> well) should use a
Am Montag, 8. Juni 2009 20:42:35 schrieb Thomas Schwinge:
> > (that's the beauty of using the wiki as staging area for the website: I
> > can just change something and upload it, and if it isn't good enough for
> > the website, we can work on it till it is).
>
> That exactly is the idea and I'm gla
Am Montag, 8. Juni 2009 15:34:07 schrieb Da Zheng:
> I don't get it. Why do you think the open source project isn't free?
It's damn semantics: The project he talked about was "free to use *for* open
source projects" (that means, if you write a free software project, you don't
have to pay for teh
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 10:58:28AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> On Monday, 8. June 2009 09:58:03 olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 09:39:51AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 4. June 2009 13:45:55 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > > > And
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 08:58:18PM +1200, Philip Charles wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Jun 2009, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote:
> > I think it's important to make the mission statement as concise as
> > possible. Adding anything more is always a tradeoff. Does it really
> > make the statement clearer a
Hello!
Hijacking this thread again: then, there is this change,
6b7cb4dbb2aa81685f93f1abb9be5251dccf1443, ``debian distro: smaller headings.'',
which does things like that:
diff --git a/hurd/running/debian.mdwn b/hurd/running/debian.mdwn
index bf21740..97d35bd 100644
--- a/hurd/runnin
committing 958bd5447e717d80bc14d4ca7257a55d6638bcc9 is to tell Git who
the original author was: git commit --author="...". But no big deal, as
that's obvious from the commit message as well.
> http://www.bddebian.com:/~hurd-web/community/weblogs/antrik/hurd-mission-
>
Hello!
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 09:36:54AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> I just put the mission stement into the wiki
I only did one tweak (consistently use ``GNU Hurd''), but otherwise I'm
fine with that -- both Olaf's text itself, and the appearance on the
page, so: thanks!
Of course w
Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
And adding these four letters suffices to tell them the essence
without relying on previous knowledge:
I don't agree. People not familiar with GNU philosophy will either
misread it, or ignore it alltogether.
Do you mean the free/gratis/libre part?
I t
On Monday, 8. June 2009 10:00:51 olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote:
> > Which gets me to an important point: We should write once a months or
> > so about improvements of the Hurd. A two line news entry suffices to
> > show people that the Hurd is active and a project worth contributing
> > to.
>
> Ind
On Monday, 8. June 2009 09:58:03 olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 09:39:51AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > On Thursday, 4. June 2009 13:45:55 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > > And I just spotted something missing: The word "free" :)
>
> Well, not exactly hard to s
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote:
> I think it's important to make the mission statement as concise as
> possible. Adding anything more is always a tradeoff. Does it really
> make the statement clearer and more appealing; or does it only make it
> harder to grasp, and distracts
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 09:39:51AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> On Thursday, 4. June 2009 13:45:55 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > And I just spotted something missing: The word "free" :)
Well, not exactly hard to spot, considering that I explicitely mentioned
leaving it out... ;-)
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 04:14:00PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Which gets me to an important point: We should write once a months or
> so about improvements of the Hurd. A two line news entry suffices to
> show people that the Hurd is active and a project worth contributing
> to.
On Thursday, 4. June 2009 13:45:55 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> And I just spotted something missing: The word "free" :)
I forgot to add the reasoning:
Even though people who know GNU should know that GNU only uses free software,
but this mission statement will (hopefully) also be read by peo
dded Olafs explanations in the wiki-weblog section - I hope that's ok
(if not, we can just remove the commits - or refactor them).
http://www.bddebian.com:/~hurd-web/community/weblogs/antrik/hurd-mission-
statement/
Bes
On Wednesday, 27. May 2009 22:37:19 Alessandro Mosca wrote:
> it's just words, anyway..
Words are important, and so is your feedback on them.
Words can excite people for a project or make them shy away from it -
before even looking at its technical details.
And the free software community is
On Saturday, 30. May 2009 08:16:53 olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote:
> > Does "everyday use" imply use as desktop OS? Or does it just say "this
> > is not only for some specific projects"?
>
> Not sure what you mean by "desktop OS"...
I mean an OS I can put on my desktop computer and use for my daunt
Hi,
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:37:19PM +0200, Alessandro Mosca wrote:
> > The mission of the Hurd project is: to create a general-purpose
> > kernel ..
>
> i guess there's something missing in it_
>
> i would say: "a modern general-purpose multiserver microkernel os.."
I intentionally left
hi,
> The mission of the Hurd project is: to create a general-purpose
> kernel ..
i guess there's something missing in it_
i would say: "a modern general-purpose multiserver microkernel os.."
the 'modern' part of it means the will to create the sound system, usb
/ wifi stacks,
>128Gb disk I
Hi,
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 01:08:51AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27. May 2009 16:45:52 Sergiu Ivanov wrote:
> I hope the niches discussion was useful nontheless.
Definitely! It helped me a lot in getting a clearer picture of these
things.
> The only part I am not perf
On Wednesday, 27. May 2009 16:45:52 Sergiu Ivanov wrote:
> An utterly appropriate observation: I hoped that the ``Niches for the
> Hurd'' discussion would provide us with something definite to tend to,
> but it doesn't look like it has happened...
I had hoped to get there, too, but I wasn't deep e
Hi,
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 02:40:34PM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote:
> What do you think? Is this a good mission statement? If so, it should go
> on the Hurd web front page.
It's good, and your reasoning seems pretty spot-on to me. I agree that
it should be on the front page.
Regards,
Hello,
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM, wrote:
>
> For a while I have been thinking about the lack of a roadmap for the
> Hurd; but now I realized that we lack something even more fundamental: a
> simple mission statement -- i.e. saying *where* we want to go, rather
> than how we want to get the
Hi to all,
i think it is a good purpouse, in matter of the fact less UNIX
is needed to complete the purpousal of creating a desktop operating system
that reach the optimal system for end user usage of it. So good work to all
and if is need some traslation from english to italian i'm her
Hi,
For a while I have been thinking about the lack of a roadmap for the
Hurd; but now I realized that we lack something even more fundamental: a
simple mission statement -- i.e. saying *where* we want to go, rather
than how we want to get there. I think many of the problems we have are
directly o
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