Re: What if Sergey dies?

Hi, On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 12:44:02PM +, jbra...@dismail.de wrote: > Apoligies for the click baity title... That's the kinda mail that might've better been sent privately, methinks. Michael

Re: [PATCH 02/14] add basic user-space tests with qemu

Hi, On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 02:51:31PM +0100, Luca Dariz wrote: > > > +$ gdb gnuamch > > > > Typo ;) > > What would be a better command? This is actually how I start gdb from the > build directory, You probably start gnumach though, and not gnuamch? Michael

Re: It runs!

On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 09:30:34PM +0300, Sergey Bugaev wrote: > Hello everyone, I've got some exciting news :) > > /bin/sh runs!!! > > Things start up all the way -- exec, proc, auth, all that. Then > /hurd/startup exec's /libexec/console-run; I placed a little shell > script there. The shell (d

Re: Regarding copyright assignment to FSF

Hi, On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 02:19:12PM +0200, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Michael Banck writes: > > > I don't mind that, but I also think the Hurd is not a tactical FSF asset > > anymore that needs to be kept under tight control. The FSF has enough > > copy

Re: Regarding copyright assignment to FSF

Hi, On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 12:18:20PM +1000, Damien Zammit wrote: > On 11/8/21 11:01 pm, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > It would be interesting to consider dropping the copyright assignment > > requirement for Hurd/Mach/MiG. For what remains primarily a hobby > > project, this looks to me like a hin

Re: real hardware and ethernet cards

Hi, On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:34:48PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Riccardo Mottola, le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 23:32:05 +0100, a ecrit: > > One question: is the issue because the cards are behind PCMCIA/CardBus > > and we don't support that? > > We have some support for this in the cardmgr-gnumac

Re: fosdem talk?

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 01:57:10AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > That's when I miss the nice quarterly reports we used to have: what's > new since last FOSDEM? > > For now I have only noted: > > Fixed native fakeroot > Various optimizations > - Node cache > - Lockless reference coun

Re: HURD and a Laptop

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 06:34:44PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > There are wireless tools on debian-ports. I don't know the details. I guess they are about 10 years old by now. Even back then, they did not work very well, as I recall. Michael

Re: Problem with reinstallation, bootloader

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:37:21AM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > How can I get from HURD something similar to DMESG or lspci? Right > now I don't have any other OSs, thus I can easily list all hardware > Richard B. asked for! Otherwise I'll burn some kind of LiveCD. IMO, it's generally a good i

Re: chroot in its own ext2fs?

Hi, On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:22:01AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Does anybody remember precisely why chroots should have their own > ext2fs? I can build packages fine from inside a chroot which doesn't > have its own ext2fs, for instance. I don't recall why we did that, maybe it was purely

Re: GNU/Hurd DDE talk at FOSDEM

On January 31, 2014 6:35:44 PM CET, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, le Fri 31 Jan 2014 12:31:39 +0100, a écrit : >> What's the status quo of driver support in the Hurd without DDE (very >few linux >> old 2.0 drivers...) > >You mean other than network boards? That's a usual part o

Re: A quarter of the Hurd, Q3/Q4 of 2012: *pthreads*, *hardware* and *porting*.

Hi, On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 09:58:28PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > At the end of the last 2 quarters, Samuel Thibault pushed the [pthread > patches](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-11/msg00088.html) > from Vicente Hernando Ara, Barry de Frese, Thomas Schwinge, Richard It

Re: Imminent Debian GNU/Hurd release

Hi, On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 09:30:12PM +0100, Miguel Figueiredo wrote: > It is with huge pleasure that the Hurd project The Debian GNU/Hurd port and the GNU Hurd project are not exactly the same, even though the member overlap is significant. Just pointing this out here as I am not sure the (GN

Re: A quarter of the Hurd, Q3/Q4 of 2012: *pthreads*, *hardware* and *porting*.

Hi, On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 12:33:27AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > A quarter of the Hurd, Q3/Q4 of 2012: *pthreads*, *hardware* and *porting*. > > At the end of the last 2 quarters, Samuel Thibault pushed the [pthread > patches](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2012-11/msg0008

Re: Porting uptimed: Usage of daemon and replacement of NOFILE

Hi, On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 11:49:48AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > In package uptimed-0.3.16 the following function is defined: BTW, I had a look at uptimed before, and the main problem I faced (IIRC), was making it crash safe. uptimed is writing the current uptime into a file, and even on GN

Re: XKB's keymaps for the Hurd console

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 05:06:40PM -0500, Oz wrote: > awsome sounds like i'll be playing some quake 3 mods in the near > future on the hurd. I suggest you wait for Duke Nukem Forever. Michael

Re: ED error code

On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 11:30:28AM +0100, Manuel Menal wrote: > On 02/11/2010 11:29, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Manuel Menal, le Tue 02 Nov 2010 11:20:27 +0100, a écrit : > >>> “Macros that begin with E and a digit or E and an uppercase letter may > >>> be added to the declarations in the header.”

Re: [tschwinge+n...@gnu.org: Duke Nukem Forever Returns, Will Really Be Released in 2011]

Hi, On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 04:33:22PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > So, there's no escape anymore: we'll have to release next year, 2011. > Finally. As far as I know, *everyone* is expecting Duke Nukem Forever > and the GNU Hurd to appear at the same time, yet to be bundeled (see >

Re: [PATCH 0/8] Bring console-driver-xkb up to date

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 03:03:19AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Diego Nieto Cid, le Wed 04 Aug 2010 04:19:58 -0300, a écrit : > >The past couple of weeks I've been packaging Marco's input driver > > for Arch Hurd and I've found that some changes were necesary to make > > it work

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd installation wizard and live cd

Hi, On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 08:43:13AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Hi Justus, > > On Monday 12 July 2010 15:40:07 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > Do you have an idea why it breaks here? > > Are you still there? Maybe try assigning more RAM to KVM if you assigned much less than 512M

Re: Article - GNU HURD: Altered visions and lost promise

Hi, On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 05:44:37PM +0200, Jure Repinc wrote: > I've just seen a new article about GNU Hurd: > http://www.h-online.com/open/features/GNU-HURD-Altered-visions-and-lost- > promise-1030942.html http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1474941 is an interesting (from a historical/FSF PO

Re: news 2010-03: *bug squashing* and *Hurd in GSoC 2010 with GNU*

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 04:16:11PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Samstag, 27. März 2010 16:00:37 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > Hi, > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 03:03:36PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > > > This month saw bugs dieing as they met hackers like > > > > [J

Re: Generalizing mobility for the Hurd

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:53:04PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > For now it is available from my personal web page provided by my uni: > > but I don't know how long that will last since I'm no longer enrolled. > I guess I'l

Re: FOSDEM 2010

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 04:37:12AM +0100, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:01:41AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > > > FOSDEM 2010 is slowly approaching. > > > > A few Hurd types have shown interest in meeting there, so I created > >

Re: cannot boot subhurd

On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 10:46:20PM +0800, Da Zheng wrote: > I tried crosshurd. It doesn't work. Anyone maintains crosshurd? Yes. Michael

Re: Months of the Hurd 2009-12

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:25:44AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > I prepared the news about this months. If something is missing (or wrong), > please tell me! There was lots of porting activity as well, mostly by Pino Toscano and Emilio Pozuelo Monfort. Maybe asking them for some highlig

Re: learning curve

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 06:16:07PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > I spent some time thinking whether to send this reply to the list or only to > Olaf, but I decided to send it to the list, because the learning curve also > applies to documentation of the Hurd - the Hurd also offers concept

Re: learning curve

This is ridiculous. I am going to unsubscribe from bug-hurd the next time I see such an off-topic thread again. Michael On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:24:21AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag, 17. November 2009 22:38:39 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > The problem with learning

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 01:20:37PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 12. November 2009 13:02:39 schrieb Michael Banck: > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:57:22PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > > @Samuel: Do you have contact with the fvwm people? If y

Re: GNU/Hurd in german news

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:57:22PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > @Samuel: Do you have contact with the fvwm people? If yes: Could you send > them > a link with the status page? I don't think fvwm working is news. Michael

Re: Mercurial vs. git

Hi, On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 03:38:57PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Well, there's Photoshop - and it doesn't yet have a real competitor in free > software. Though Gimp is almost as powerful, it is much harder to use for > newcomers. Give Photoshop to a newbie, and you'll see him/her wor

Re: blubber and grubber down

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:47:24PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > Hello! > > On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 11:45:39AM +0100, I wrote: > > I think I'll reinstall them later today (preserving /home/, of course). > > Sergiu rightfully so reminded me that I had forgotten to do that. > blubber is again up

Re: News 2009-10-31

On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 03:58:57PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Montag, 2. November 2009 15:29:47 schrieb Thomas Schwinge: > > > -> http://www.bddebian.com/~hurd-web/news/2009-10-31/ A lot of people will just ignore this monster thread; so if you plan to actually have people read those

Re: Hurd build fails on my box

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 09:32:25PM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > I'd like to remark, though, that (on my box) the set of patches I get > from apt-get and from svn is different... More exactly, the apt-get > version misses (at least) the ``series'' file and a number of patches > (like the in6_addr.p

Re: A GNU/Hurd Roadmap dream

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 10:22:45PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > This is the Roadmap I dreamt of: Sorry, but this is a wishlist, not a roadmap. Michael

Re: Does the cross toolchain really work?

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:58:56AM +0800, newper wrote: > But when I restart the computer it still hang at Hurd sever > bhootstrap: ext2fs.static[device:hd0s2]exec > You tell me to enable-kdb when compiling gnumach,but I don't know how > to use it. When you --enable-kdb, Mach will drop you into th

Re: Report in Swedish, English or both?

Hi, On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 10:38:48PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > I'm slightly torn however, partly because I'm more proficient in Swedish. > And partly because Swedish is in such a poor state when it comes to > computer science. Often terminology is borrowed form English even though > t

Re: Niche for the Hurd - summary 2 - niches sorted according to necessary work

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 05:42:49PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > I think to make it *the* GNU system we'd need it in a state where I can just > start any desktop on it and work with it just like in a GNU/Linux, because > else people would just shrug and say "This is GNU then, I think I'll

Re: Niche for Hurd - discussion - the power of translators

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 03:58:39AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I wonder what it would take to get this into Debian as default... Uhm, how about starting with a whishlist bug first? Michael

Re: status

Arne, On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 11:26:24AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > If Viengoos fullfills the hopes I have in it since I read the paper from > Neal, > then it's likely that the GNU/Hurd will be ported to it. You can have your hopes however you want, but it is not very productive to

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 07:08:30AM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > However, do you mean that I can download the sources of emacs22 and > they will build successfully on Hurd? Two weeks ago, that was the case: http://buildd.debian-ports.org/fetch.php?&pkg=emacs22&ver=22.2%2B2-4&arch=hurd-i386&stamp=1

Re: Fwd: Gentoo GNU/Hurd thread in Gentoo Forums

On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 08:23:41AM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > I see... Well, I hope I'll have some time to port emacs to Hurd, > because, frankly speaking, it's uncomfortable for me to realize that > *GNU* Emacs does not run on *GNU* Hurd... Maybe you're doing something wrong then, because GNU

Re: Hurd does not want to build

On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 10:33:30PM +0200, Sergiu Ivanov wrote: > cd hurd/; make > > which dies with the following error message: > > ar: creating libshouldbeinlibc.a > libshouldbeinlibc.a > make[1]: libshouldbeinlibc.a: Command not found > make[1]: *** [libshouldbeinlibc.a] Error 127 >

Re: kvm with hurd-k16.img

reassign 498940 linux-2.6 retitle 498940 [patch] linux-2.6.26 KVM fails to boot Mach severity 498940 important tags 498940 +patch tags 498940 +fixed-upstream thanks On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 11:28:53AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Michael Banck, le Mon 03 Nov 2008 11:09:08 +0100, a éc

Re: kvm with hurd-k16.img

On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 09:42:01AM +0530, Vikram Vincent wrote: > 2008/11/2 Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Hi, > > > > --- On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > | kvm -boot a -hda hurd-k16.img -fda grub-0.97-i386-pc.ext2fs -m 512 > > \-- > > >

Re: e2os

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 06:51:18PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > It's safe, it just sets a bit somewhere. It'd be nice if it was part of e2fsprogs or something; it's more useful on GNU/Linux than on GNU/Hurd anyway usually. Did somebody try to get it integrated there at some point? Michael

current CVS libpthread makes trivial programs linked to it hang

Hi, if you compile a trivial program and link it to libpthread from current CVS, it hangs. I bisected it mostly to the following change: 2008-06-22 Neal H. Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * sysdeps/generic/pt-mutex-timedlock.c (__pthread_mutex_timedlock_internal) [! NDEBUG]: Set

dbus porting required

Hello, now that we have a working /proc tree, we discovered that the dbus daemon is not starting up correctly: Setting up dbus (1.2.1-3) ... The system user `messagebus' already exists. Exiting. Starting system message bus: dbusFailed to start message bus: Failed to bind socket "/var/run/dbus/sy

Re: Xen - exec hanging

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:10:55PM +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Should have checked. Anyways, it booted fine. The console response is > quite good! > > I put some documentation here: > http://www.shakthimaan.com/installs/hurd-xen.html Pretty please, with sugar on top, don't make up more docume

Re: [META] Replying to messages, again

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:34:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry, but no. The list-reply feature of Mutt is there to be used, and > I'm going to use it. Personally, I try to hit 'g' if the person I reply to is unknown to me and it a new message (not in the middle of a thread), otherwise

Re: Current state of Xorg on Hurd?

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 08:10:35AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag 16 September 2008 17:07:15 schrieb Thomas Schwinge: > > date: 2003-11-09 20:13:47 +0100; author: tomhart; state: Exp; lines: > > OK, then it's clear why it doesn't work :) > > 5 years is a hell of a lot o

[bug #24278] bad number magic 0 (should be 0xef53)

Follow-up Comment #1, bug #24278 (project hurd): > start (hd0,0)/hurd/ext2fs.static: ext2fs: device:hd0s0 hd0s0 is not a valid device name. Fix your grub config. Michael ___ Reply to this item at:

Re: Code Bounty

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 08:10:56PM +1200, Gregory Plummer wrote: > Hi all, I would like to offer a small cash incentive for tasks needing to be > completed. It would be great if the Hurd could support file systems greater > than 2 GB in size. How would I go about sponsoring this feature? Some input

Re: Current state of Xorg on Hurd?

Hi, On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 02:31:24PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag 02 September 2008 11:43:39 schrieb Neal H. Walfield: > > At Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:15:41 +0200, > > Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > > * For Desktops: Are pthreads fully implemented, now? Can I get KDE or > > > si

Re: New Newsitem for Savannah

Hi, On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 10:18:58PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > The newsitem just says: "News are on the main website (link) and in the wiki > (link). > > Should I activate it myself? That doesn't sound urgent, so we can wait till Thomas Schwinge has time I guess, he's doing most

Re: RPC implementation - Help me please

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:23:36AM +0530, Madhusudan C.S wrote: > apt-get source glibc and dpkg-buildpackage -uc -B fails for some weird > compilation errors in bsd files. I forgot to log the errors. Is this a known > bug or is it necessary to give the build logs to find out what it is? Luckily, g

[patch #6088] Entropy Patch

Follow-up Comment #1, patch #6088 (project hurd): Comments on the 2007/08/28 version of the patch by Samuel Thibault: > Index: device/blkio.c > @@ -149,6 +151,10 @@ > do { > prev = next; > next = prev->io_next; > +#ifdef MACH_ENTROPY > + /* Let's grab the cylind

[patch #6088] Entropy Patch

Additional Item Attachment, patch #6088 (project hurd): File name: entropy_patch.diff Size:28 KB ___ Reply to this item at: ___ Message se

Re: Revision control

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:11:20PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No powerful tool can be properly used without understanding it. The point is: The Hurd doesn't need a powerful source control tool, it just needs something which is much better than CVS and usable by all possible contributors. O

Re: Revision control

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:34:41PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > I like the idea. > > It would lower the barrier to begin coding on the hurd (I think), and it > would > be a good opportunity to clean up the cvs chaos a bit (so newcomers don't get > completely lost in the different repos

Re: Python Script to Retrieve the Uptime

On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 06:50:32PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Just to make sure: you know that there is already a tarfs lying around? > (I can't remember where) It's on hurdextras, see http://sv.gnu.org/p/hurdextras and http://cvs.sv.gnu.org/viewvc/tarfs/?root=hurdextras Michael

Re: Release notes (was: GSoC application deadline passed)

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 03:59:47PM +0100, Pierre THIERRY wrote: > Clearly, documentation is a problem with the Hurd. It's incomplete, > scattered and stale. Working on it is helpful, if done appropriately. In any case, IMHO the most useful documentation improvements would be in the Hurd manual and

Re: Spreading the word (was: GSoC application deadline passed)

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 04:39:44PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:48:50AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > > > > What is to be done now is waiting to see whether I^Hwe get accepted. > > > > We've been. > [...] > > Is there someone to write a short note to be installed

Re: Debian Hurd package dependencies [Was: GSoC application deadline passed]

Please follow-up to debian-hurd, this is really off-topic on bug-hurd. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 01:07:12PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote: > Would setting up more buildds help with this issue? With current boom > of virtualization setting up an obsolete system becomes quite easy ;-) > Plus you get th

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 03:14:53PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Something along the lines of this? > >The Hurd project has been accepted as a mentoring organisation for href="http://code.google.com/soc/2008/";>Google Summer of Code >2008! If you are a student and looking for a job

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:38:51AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If the Hurd gets at least one slot, you'll have contributed as much as > > anyone who regularly dives into code, because you'll have invited a > > new coder. > > Most likely we could have got one slot again through the GNU pro

Package installability and testing (was: Re: GSoC application deadline passed)

(CCing debian-hurd as this is really Debian-specific now) On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 01:15:27PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote: > On 18/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michal Suchanek, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 16:34:42 +0100, a écrit : > > > > > On 17/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Forgot to reply to this part. On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 03:58:33PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > El Friday, 14 de March de 2008 15:08:31 Carl Fredrik Hammar escribió: > > Now to a real issue. While there's nothing wrong with the project as > > such (in fact it's quite a good idea), I think

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 03:58:33PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > * Setup a blog and write your commit messages in there. If there is a git (or > mercurial) repository, also add a link to its web frontend on the website. > People must see, that the Hurd is active. A developer blog (i.e.

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:16:31PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Carl Fredrik Hammar, le Fri 14 Mar 2008 15:08:31 +0100, a écrit : > > Now to a real issue. While there's nothing wrong with the project as > > such (in fact it's quite a good idea), I think most of the project is > > more in the do

Re: FOSDEM 2008

On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:27:36PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There is always some uncertainty in such matters. But I have little > doubt we could get a reasonable number of people together *if* somebody > would actually take up organising it. It's all about taking initiative. > However it s

Re: L4-Hurd or Debian/Hurd

On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 02:59:08PM +, Ashish Gokhale wrote: > There seem to be two ports of Hurd emerging, one is > Debian/Hurd running on Gnu Mach kernel & another > Gnu/Hurd running on top of L4 microkernel. > > 1. Which flavor of Hurd does this mailing list belong? > 2. Which is more compl

Re: gcc/toolchain Hurd maintenance

Hi, On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 06:20:14PM +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > I would like to hear some pointers to get started on how binutils, > GCC, glibc, Hurd servers, etc. are collaborating in a Hurd system? > ('toolchain maintenance') Binutils and GCC do not work much differently than on GNU/Linux

Re: What after cross_gnu?

On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 04:27:20PM +, Ashish Gokhale wrote: > Thanks to thomas for the cross_gnu_env & cross_gnu. I > have been able to run both. Now I have cross-build > environment. How do i proceed to have a running Hurd > System? any links? Install the Hurd, either natively or as a qemu in

pfinet segfaults (was: Re: Making DHCP renew work in pfinet)

On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 11:03:49PM +0200, Christian Dietrich wrote: > * Stefan Siegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Oct 15 2007 23:57] wrote: > > > The whitespaces beetween -a and the ip are missing because -a, -g, -m, > > > -p, -A, -G have only optional arguments. If the argument is no passed > > > the valu

Re: Making DHCP renew work in pfinet

On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 11:03:49PM +0200, Christian Dietrich wrote: > * Stefan Siegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Oct 15 2007 23:57] wrote: > > > But now, when the /etc/dhclient-script calls fsysopts it will override > > > all other device informations, e.g. ipv6 addresses, gateways on other > > > devices.

Re: Build Hurd toolchain

On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 04:10:02PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 06:55:42PM +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > > "azeem" referred this documentation on IRC: > > http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/unsorted/BuildingTheHurd/index.html > > > > I shall give it a try. > > I removed it

Re: Build Hurd toolchain

On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:05:20AM +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > - On 10/30/07, Thomas Schwinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | As building a proper cross compiler is not trivial (as you are > | experiencing), may I ask why you need to build one? > \-- > > So that I can compile (or cross-compi

Re: git for Debian GNU/Hurd (was: Setting ones's priorities)

On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 12:58:02AM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > Michael, again, please apply these two attached patches to the Debian > `git' package, build and upload. Thanks, I've uploaded it to gnuab. I didn't test it though. Michael ___ Bug

Re: switching to SVN ?

Hi, On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:25:34PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > You may question: ``Who needs five checkouts of the same source code?'' > I do. I have five of the Hurd's HEAD, fourteen of GNU Mach's > gnumach-1-branch, four of glibc. Every one with different patches and > changes. Switch

Re: Maintenance of the Hurd parts in glibc (was: about GNU Hurd)

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 12:59:39PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > It would be a good idea to have SVN running on the Hurd before > switching. It is running, at least svn+ssh:// works fine for me. I have also just uploaded subversion packages to ftp.debian.org, they should be available to Debi

Re: Maintenance of the Hurd parts in glibc (was: about GNU Hurd)

Hi, On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 06:49:12PM +0200, Pierre THIERRY wrote: > Maybe it would help to lower entry barriers for the project. A > distributed version control helps technically. What I think is most important is that people can easily locally branch/merge the master (CVS) repository with thei

Re: New VFS being developped for glib/Gnome

On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:02:09PM -0400, Gregg C Levine wrote: > For those of us who are familiar with the other stored resource methods for > storing code, such as subversion, and CVS, but not very familiar with GIT, > please elaborate on how to retrieve the files stored there. It's not like I'm

New VFS being developped for glib/Gnome

Hi, just wanted to point out this presentation done by Alexander Larsson (RedHat) this week at GUADEC on GVFS: http://www.gnome.org/~alexl/presentations/guadec2007-gvfs.odp (temporary PDF version: http://oussik.com/guadec2007-gvfs.pdf ) The code is at http://www.gnome.org/~alexl/git/gvfs.git/ (

Re: New Hurd wiki?

On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 10:46:16PM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: > The Hurd wiki at hurd.gnufangs.org no longer is updated It's getting updated sporadically, at least from me. Michael ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.or

Re: [bug #17644] glibc: support for TLS

On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 06:22:05PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > Hello! > > On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 05:19:59PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 02:09:13PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Here are updated patches, ext2fs.static now work

Re: [bug #17644] glibc: support for TLS

On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 02:09:13PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Here are updated patches, ext2fs.static now works. mach-defpager doesn't, > however. I get "Assertion `ports->ip_srights > 0' failed in file "../ipc/ipc_right.c", line 1411" when I run your hurd/libc0.3 packages in qemu, see the at

Re: Analysis of build failures in Debian GNU/Hurd

On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 11:41:53PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > - PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE_NP: 4 > > Actually fixed in hurd's CVS head. > > > - SOUND_MIXER_*: 4 > > Mmm, should be fixed with the soundcard.h we now ship in debian. Ah, OK. > It's odd we don't have it. IIRC we have a

Analysis of build failures in Debian GNU/Hurd

Hello, this mail is a summary of the different kinds of build failures the Debian GNU/Hurd autobuilder has encountered while building through the Debian archive. I've CC'd it to bug-hurd as this should be of general interest to the GNU Hurd as well. I also skipped over most of the non C/C++ fail

Re: bind() broken for AF_UNIX in chroots

Hi, On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 01:30:37PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 03:00:54AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > > > The following program works fine in a real installation, but fails with > > EADDRNOTAVAIL if run in a chroot: > > I think I get

bind() broken for AF_UNIX in chroots

Hi, (The "use-case" here being that for some funky reason dbus needs to get started in order to build core parts of Gnome in Debian, thus Gnome is broken in Debian GNU/Hurd until this is fixed, or we decide to build Gnome completely manually from now on) The following program works fine in a real

poll() return value problems according to POSIX(?)

(sorry if that is a FAQ, but google didn't find prior discussion) Hi, python2.5 introduced a configure check for a broken poll(), which is positive on GNU/Hurd (thus HAVE_BROKEN_POLL is defined), but not Linux. The code of the check is as follows: #include int main (void) { struct pol

Re: fatfs: slot_status COMPRESS

Hi, On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:31:33AM +0200, christian nastasi wrote: > Just an other one? Could somebody help me with the problem I had had to > compile the translator on the gnubber.bddebian.com machine as reported in > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2007-06/msg00029.html ? Did you

Re: Putting a random translator into the Hurd directly?

On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:51:48AM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: > That makes sense, but why don't we still include a random module in > the source itself so people who are working on one at least can work > >from a common starting point, but make it so it isn't compiled in by > default. I

Re: Putting a random translator into the Hurd directly?

On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 04:23:05PM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: > I've recently started hacking on Hurd again, and I'm curious why a > random translator isn't included by default in the Hurd. Looking at > the wiki, there are at least two different translators; we should > have one of thes

Re: develop hurd on virtual machine

Hi, On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 02:58:51PM +0200, christian nastasi wrote: > Ok, some new questions. > For the previous I understand on my own what can I do (or this is what I > believe). > - For the emulator I will use the bochs, because I see that there's an hurd > image working with such emulator.

[bug #17646] glibc: ``-z relro''

Follow-up Comment #3, bug #17646 (project hurd): If I'm not wrong 2.5 got released a couple of days before this change, my glibc-2.5 tarball doesn't seem to have the change Thomas referenced in comment #1. Did you try with glibc-2.6 from experimental instead (though more work is probably needed

Re: ``No symbol table info available.'' (was: glibc 2.5 on GNU/Hurd with GCC 4.1: `EXC_BAD_ACCESS' in glibc nss code)

On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 01:06:57PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > $ sudo gdb /hurd/password 328 > GNU gdb 6.5-debian > [...] > (gdb) bt full > #0 0x011408f0 in _nss_files_parse_grent () from /lib/libc.so.0.3 > No symbol table info available. > [...] > #v- > > Why is ``no symbol table info availa

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: gnumach ChangeLog config.status.dep.patch [gnumach-1-branch]]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:50:55PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > 12:22:41 up 6 days, 6:00, 20 users, load average: 145.63, 71.19, 28.72 > Does somebody want to try that on a GNU/Hurd system? ;-) I "tried" that when I built the Debian gcc-4.1 package from experimental it had something like "

Re: autoreconf -i breaks

On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:05:20PM +0100, Ashish Gokhale wrote: > I have Debian Linux Kernel 3.1, autoconf-2.59, > automake-1.6.3. As Thomas said, user automake1.9. Michael ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listi

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