Re: qemu linux-user limitations

2025-05-20 Thread Andreas Schwab
On Mai 20 2025, Bruno Haible wrote: > Still, I call it a qemu user-mode limitation, because that's how it > presents itself to the user. Adopting the point of view of the user — > as opposed to the point of view of the implementor — is a technique > for writing more successful software. Lying to

Re: qemu linux-user limitations

2025-05-19 Thread Bruno Haible via Gnulib discussion list
Andreas Schwab wrote: > This issue is not related to a qemu-user environment. You can call it a > Debian or Ubuntu bug, but not a qenu-user limitation. Often issues in one software package resurface (= become visible for the user) as an issue in another software package. I agree with you that th

Re: qemu linux-user limitations

2025-05-19 Thread Andreas Schwab
On Mai 19 2025, Bruno Haible wrote: > Andreas Schwab wrote: >> >> >> > - glibc iconv modules are not installed (on Debian/Ubuntu). >> >> >> >> >> >> How does this have anything to do with qemu? >> >> > >> >> > It's not a bug in qemu itself. >> >> >> >> Thus completely irrelevant. >> > >> > No, i

Re: qemu linux-user limitations

2025-05-19 Thread Andreas Schwab
On Mai 19 2025, Bruno Haible wrote: > Andreas Schwab wrote: >> >> > - glibc iconv modules are not installed (on Debian/Ubuntu). >> >> >> >> How does this have anything to do with qemu? >> > >> > It's not a bug in qemu itself. >> >> Thus completely irrelevant. > > No, it's relevant No, it has no

Re: qemu linux-user limitations

2025-05-19 Thread Bruno Haible via Gnulib discussion list
Andreas Schwab wrote: > >> >> > - glibc iconv modules are not installed (on Debian/Ubuntu). > >> >> > >> >> How does this have anything to do with qemu? > >> > > >> > It's not a bug in qemu itself. > >> > >> Thus completely irrelevant. > > > > No, it's relevant > > No, it has nothing to do with

Re: qemu linux-user limitations

2025-05-19 Thread Bruno Haible via Gnulib discussion list
Andreas Schwab wrote: > >> > - glibc iconv modules are not installed (on Debian/Ubuntu). > >> > >> How does this have anything to do with qemu? > > > > It's not a bug in qemu itself. > > Thus completely irrelevant. No, it's relevant * for m4, because m4 makes indirect use of iconv_open(),

Re: qemu linux-user limitations

2025-05-19 Thread Andreas Schwab
On Mai 19 2025, Bruno Haible wrote: > Andreas Schwab wrote: >> > - glibc iconv modules are not installed (on Debian/Ubuntu). >> >> How does this have anything to do with qemu? > > It's not a bug in qemu itself. Thus completely irrelevant. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, sch...@suse.de GPG Key fi

Re: qemu linux-user limitations

2025-05-19 Thread Bruno Haible via Gnulib discussion list
Andreas Schwab wrote: > > - glibc iconv modules are not installed (on Debian/Ubuntu). > > How does this have anything to do with qemu? It's not a bug in qemu itself. But it manifests itself as a bug, for all the qemu user-mode users who take their cross environment from the Debian/Ubuntu distro (