Re: [Beowulf] [EXTERNAL] Re: Rant on why HPC isn't as easy as I'd like it to be. [EXT]

2021-09-21 Thread Lux, Jim (US 7140) via Beowulf
This is interesting, because the figure of merit is “time to first answer” – that’s much like my iterative antenna modeling task – The cost of the computing is negligible compared to the cost of the engineer(s) waiting for the results. Running the AWS calculator, a EC instance is $74/month when

Re: [Beowulf] Rant on why HPC isn't as easy as I'd like it to be.

2021-09-21 Thread ascheinine
A few years ago I wrote a summary of software for supercomputing with a focus on near-future developments. The Dept. of Energy had a new round of funding for libraries and frameworks for supercomputers. The description of the projects sounded like they could be flexible and efficient w.r.t. compu

Re: [Beowulf] Rant on why HPC isn't as easy as I'd like it to be. [EXT]

2021-09-21 Thread Tim Cutts
I think that’s exactly the situation we’ve been in for a long time, especially in life sciences, and it’s becoming more entrenched. My experience is that the average user of our scientific computing systems has been becoming less technically savvy for many years now. The presence of the cloud

Re: [Beowulf] Rant on why HPC isn't as easy as I'd like it to be.

2021-09-21 Thread John Hearns
Some points well made here. I have seen in the past job scripts passed on from graduate student to graduate student - the case I am thinking on was an Abaqus script for 8 core systems, being run on a new 32 core system. Why WOULD a graduate student question a script given to them - which works. The

Re: [Beowulf] [EXTERNAL] Re: Deskside clusters

2021-09-21 Thread John Hearns
Over on the Julia discussion list there are often topics on performance or varying performance - these often turn out to be due to the BLAS libraries in use, and how they are being used. I believe that there is a project for pureJulia BLAS. On Mon, 20 Sept 2021 at 18:41, Lux, Jim (US 7140) via Beo

Re: [Beowulf] [EXTERNAL] Re: Deskside clusters

2021-09-21 Thread John Hearns
Yes, but which foot? You have enough space for two toes from each foot for q taste, and you then need some logic to decide which one to use. On Mon, 20 Sept 2021 at 21:59, Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf < beowulf@beowulf.org> wrote: > On 9/20/21 6:35 AM, Jim Cownie wrote: > > >> Eadline's Law : Cach