Re: [Beowulf] Accelerator for data compressing

2008-10-02 Thread Bruno Coutinho
2008/10/2 Bill Broadley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <...> Why hardware? I have some python code that managed 10MB/sec per CPU (or > 80MB > on 8 CPUs if you prefer) that compresses with zlib, hashes with sha256, and > encrypts with AES (256 bit key). Assuming the compression you want isn't > substantial

Re: [Beowulf] Accelerator for data compressing

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Hahn
Currently I generate nearly one TB data every few days and I need to pass it Bill's right - 6 MB/s is really not much to ask from even a complex WAN. I think the first thing you should do is find the bottleneck. to me it sounds like you have a sort of ropey path with a 100 Mbps hop somewhere.

Re: [Beowulf] Accelerator for data compressing

2008-10-02 Thread Bill Broadley
Xu, Jerry wrote: Hello, Currently I generate nearly one TB data every few days and I need to pass it along enterprise network to the storage center attached to my HPC system, I am thinking about compressing it (most tiff format image data) tiff uncompressed, or tiff compressed files? If unc

Re: [Beowulf] Accelerator for data compressing

2008-10-02 Thread Rodrigo Grumiche Silva
Hi Jerry I think HDF5 can help you in some way... - http://www.hdfgroup.org/HDF5/ Rodrigo 2008/10/2 Xu, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello, > > Currently I generate nearly one TB data every few days and I need to pass > it > along enterprise network to the storage center attached to my

Re: [Beowulf] Compute Node OS on Local Disk vs. Ram Disk

2008-10-02 Thread Geoff Jacobs
John Hearns wrote: > Damn Small (DSL) is, Puppy is not. I believe Puppy is it's own beast. > > The FAQ on the site says its a Slackware derivative, if I'm not wrong. > What goes around comes around I guess :-) Maybe those kipper ties from > the 70s will be back too. First question on the page

Re: [Beowulf] Accelerator for data compressing

2008-10-02 Thread Reuti
Hi, Am 02.10.2008 um 22:09 schrieb Xu, Jerry: Currently I generate nearly one TB data every few days and I need to pass it along enterprise network to the storage center attached to my HPC system, I am thinking about compressing it (most tiff format image data) is it plain tiff or alread

Re: [Beowulf] Accelerator for data compressing

2008-10-02 Thread Nifty niftyompi Mitch
On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 04:09:36PM -0400, Xu, Jerry wrote: > > Currently I generate nearly one TB data every few days and I need to pass it > along enterprise network to the storage center attached to my HPC system, I am > thinking about compressing it (most tiff format image data) as much as I c

Re: [Beowulf] Accelerator for data compressing

2008-10-02 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 05:40:31PM -0400, Joe Landman wrote: > I have heard of some "xml accelerators" in the > past (back when XML was considered a good buzzword) that did on-the-fly > compression. Well, given how wordy the tags are, simply compressing those is inexpensive and is a big win,

Re: [Beowulf] Accelerator for data compressing

2008-10-02 Thread Joe Landman
Xu, Jerry wrote: Hello, Currently I generate nearly one TB data every few days and I need to pass it along enterprise network to the storage center attached to my HPC system, I am thinking about compressing it (most tiff format image data) as much as I can, as fast as I can before I send it cr

Re: [Beowulf] Has DDR IB gone the way of the Dodo?

2008-10-02 Thread NiftyOMPI Mitch
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 04:07:39PM -0500, Alan Louis Scheinine wrote: > NiftyOMPI Mitch wrote >> QDR is interesting... in all likelyhood the >> QDR game will be optical for any link further away than a single rack. >> Once IB goes optical there will be a lot of reason to install IB in > > machine r

[Beowulf] Accelerator for data compressing

2008-10-02 Thread Xu, Jerry
Hello, Currently I generate nearly one TB data every few days and I need to pass it along enterprise network to the storage center attached to my HPC system, I am thinking about compressing it (most tiff format image data) as much as I can, as fast as I can before I send it crossing network ...

Re: [Beowulf] Linux Magazine - What He Said

2008-10-02 Thread David Simas
> When I tried to ressurect my thing a couple years ago, I realized my > original code was all wrong in trading time for space (plenty of time on the > 386, then SunOS servers; not enough space, but new machine had plenty of > unused RAM). I thought some about redesigning to reverse the trade-off

Re: [Beowulf] Compute Node OS on Local Disk vs. Ram Disk

2008-10-02 Thread John Hearns
> > Damn Small (DSL) is, Puppy is not. I believe Puppy is it's own beast. > > The FAQ on the site says its a Slackware derivative, if I'm not wrong. What goes around comes around I guess :-) Maybe those kipper ties from the 70s will be back too. Actually, and here I toss in a handgrenade, if we a

Re: [Beowulf] Linux Magazine - What He Said

2008-10-02 Thread Ellis Wilson
In the article: "What if a high level programing description language was developed. Note I did not say programming language. This description language would allow you to “describe” what you needed to do and not how to do it (as discussed before)." I would ask then, how does one "describe what

Re: [Beowulf] Compute Node OS on Local Disk vs. Ram Disk

2008-10-02 Thread Geoff Jacobs
stephen mulcahy wrote: > John Hearns wrote: >> H can I forsee Puppy Linux HPC Edition >> http://www.puppylinux.org/ >> >> >> Being half serious here, is it worth trying to get one of these >> slimmed-down distros to the state where it will run an HPC job? >> Oh, and in addition to

Re: [Beowulf] Linux Magazine - What He Said

2008-10-02 Thread Peter St. John
John, When I tried to ressurect my thing a couple years ago, I realized my original code was all wrong in trading time for space (plenty of time on the 386, then SunOS servers; not enough space, but new machine had plenty of unused RAM). I thought some about redesigning to reverse the trade-off, wh

Re: [Beowulf] Linux Magazine - What He Said

2008-10-02 Thread John Hearns
2008/10/2 Peter St. John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > John, > After I first thought up my nutty GA scheme, I was then astonished by the > John Holland Scientific American artifcle. I was aghast that anyone could > even imagine thinking along those lines with 1960's hardware, as he had > done. > > I belie

Re: [Beowulf] Linux Magazine - What He Said

2008-10-02 Thread Peter St. John
John, After I first thought up my nutty GA scheme, I was then astonished by the John Holland Scientific American artifcle. I was aghast that anyone could even imagine thinking along those lines with 1960's hardware, as he had done. I got my first working version done on a 386 (daughtercard on a 28

Re: [Beowulf] Compute Node OS on Local Disk vs. Ram Disk

2008-10-02 Thread James Braid
2008/10/2 Bogdan Costescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Eric Thibodeau wrote: > >> the NFS root approach only does changes on the head node and changed files >> don't need to be propagated and are accessed on a as-needed basis, this >> might have significant impacts on large deployment

Re: [Beowulf] precise synchronization of system clocks

2008-10-02 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008, Lux, James P wrote: If one considers that a single wire is about 1 uH/meter (typical electrical wiring will be much less, because it's a pair, with currents flowing opposite directions), the series L might be a few tens of uH. At, say, 20 A, there's just not much energy stor

Re: [Beowulf] precise synchronization of system clocks

2008-10-02 Thread Lux, James P
Rgb wrote: > > I understand inductive surge when powering up, I understand in detail > browning out a primary power transformer, but I think those are > different issues and irrelevant here. Inductive surge -> magnetizing current in large iron core inductors (depends on where you are in line frequ

Re: [Beowulf] Linux Magazine - What He Said

2008-10-02 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
To comment a bit on the article: >What if a high level programing description language was developed. Note I did not say programming language. >This description language would allow you to “describe” what you needed to do and not how to do it (as >discussed before). This draft description wou

Re: [Beowulf] Compute Node OS on Local Disk vs. Ram Disk

2008-10-02 Thread stephen mulcahy
John Hearns wrote: H can I forsee Puppy Linux HPC Edition http://www.puppylinux.org/ Being half serious here, is it worth trying to get one of these slimmed-down distros to the state where it will run an HPC job? Oh, and in addition to a barebones install for our contemplative

Re: [Beowulf] Compute Node OS on Local Disk vs. Ram Disk

2008-10-02 Thread John Hearns
2008/10/1 Donald Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > It's foreseeable that holding an 8GB install > image in memory will be trivial, but that will be a few years in the > future, not today. And we will need better VM and PTE management to make > it efficient. > > > H can I forsee Puppy Lin

Re: [Beowulf] Compute Node OS on Local Disk vs. Ram Disk

2008-10-02 Thread Bogdan Costescu
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Eric Thibodeau wrote: the NFS root approach only does changes on the head node and changed files don't need to be propagated and are accessed on a as-needed basis, this might have significant impacts on large deployments NFS-root doesn't scale too well, the implementation

Re: [Beowulf] Compute Node OS on Local Disk vs. Ram Disk

2008-10-02 Thread Bogdan Costescu
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Donald Becker wrote: That's correct. Our model is that a "cluster" is a single system -- and a single install. That's the idea that I've also started with, almost 10 years ago ;-) Not using Beo*/bproc, but NFS-root which allowed a single install in the node "image" to be

Re: [Beowulf] Re: MOSIX2

2008-10-02 Thread Tony Travis
Vincent Diepeveen wrote: [...] Supporting a thing like openmosix requires a lot more than 1 guy who in order to modify 3 bytes needs 1000 dollar. Hello, Vincent. I've been involved in the openMosix project from the start, and I still use it. My comment about the $1,000 for 'updates' concerne

[Beowulf] Linux Magazine - What He Said

2008-10-02 Thread John Hearns
I just read Douglas Eadline's article on Linux Magazine, entitled "What He Said" http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7087 Very thought provoking article, and took me back to thinking about genetic algorithms, a subject I flirted with 20 years ago. I didn't find it worthwhile on a Sparc1 system with a whop