Re: [Beowulf] Re: Religious wars

2008-07-23 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Bob Drzyzgula wrote: Although it wasn't my first machine [1], I did work with an admittedly-old-at-the-time PDP-8 for a while in the early 1980s. It was used to run a Perkin-Elmer microdensitometer (think quarter-million-dollar film scanner). IIRC it had no non-volatile mem

Re: [Beowulf] Drive screw fixed with LocTite

2008-07-23 Thread Gerry Creager
Perry E. Metzger wrote: "David Mathog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: A vendor who shall remain nameless graced us with a hot swappable drive caddy in which one of the three mounting screws used to fasten the drive to the caddy had been treated with blue LocTite. This wasn't obvious from external

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Religious wars

2008-07-23 Thread Bob Drzyzgula
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:06:03PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > "Robert G. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Note that Bob and I started out on systems with far less than 100 MB > > of DISK and perhaps a MB of system memory on a fat SERVER in the > > latter 80's. And the P(o)DP(eople)

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Religious wars

2008-07-23 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Kilian CAVALOTTI wrote: On Wednesday 23 July 2008 01:37:16 pm Robert G. Brown wrote: But show me a "programmer" who cannot work without their mouse and a GUI-based text editor, who has to scroll slowly up and down or constantly move hands from the keys to the mouse and back

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Religious wars

2008-07-23 Thread Gerry Creager
Too much information. Robert G. Brown wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Peter St. John wrote: Fair enough, I'll settle for Gary Oldman. We'll let RGB have Anthony Hopkins. No, no, no. John Malkovitch. The resemblance is actually fairly striking. Bald, pudgy, whiny sardonic voice, sexy as all he

Re: [Beowulf] Drive screw fixed with LocTite

2008-07-23 Thread Bob Drzyzgula
If the hot-swappable drives are sold by the nameless vendor pre-installed in the caddy, it is possible that the LocTite's primary purpose was for tamper evidence, as in "if you pulled that screw you must have been messing with the drives and we don't have honor the warranty no more". Perry E.

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Religious wars

2008-07-23 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"Robert G. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Note that Bob and I started out on systems with far less than 100 MB > of DISK and perhaps a MB of system memory on a fat SERVER in the > latter 80's. And the P(o)DP(eople) made do with even less in the > early 80's. My first machine was a PDP-8. 4

Re: [Beowulf] Drive screw fixed with LocTite

2008-07-23 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"David Mathog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A vendor who shall remain nameless graced us with a hot swappable drive > caddy in which one of the three mounting screws used to fasten the drive > to the caddy had been treated with blue LocTite. This wasn't obvious > from external inspection, but th

Re: [Beowulf] Strange SGE scheduling problem

2008-07-23 Thread Shannon V. Davidson
Schoenefeld, Keith wrote: My cluster has 8 slots (cores)/node in the form of two quad-core processors. Only recently we've started running jobs on it that require 12 slots. We've noticed significant speed problems running multiple 12 slot jobs, and quickly discovered that the node that was runni

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Religious wars

2008-07-23 Thread Kilian CAVALOTTI
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 01:37:16 pm Robert G. Brown wrote: > But show me a "programmer" who cannot work without their mouse > and a GUI-based text editor, who has to scroll slowly up and down or > constantly move hands from the keys to the mouse and back to select > even elementary functions, and

Re: [Beowulf] Green Cluster?

2008-07-23 Thread Matt Lawrence
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Huw Lynes wrote: The advantage of smart PDUs is that they can switch off anything whereas IPMI and other lights-out systems usually only exist on computers. All things being equal I'd rather have both. It's also entertaining watching upper management do a doubletake when y

[Beowulf] Drive screw fixed with LocTite

2008-07-23 Thread David Mathog
A vendor who shall remain nameless graced us with a hot swappable drive caddy in which one of the three mounting screws used to fasten the drive to the caddy had been treated with blue LocTite. This wasn't obvious from external inspection, but the telltale blue glop was on the threads when the scr

Re: [Beowulf] Green Cluster?

2008-07-23 Thread Lombard, David N
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 01:40:59PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for your suggestions. Let me be more specific. > I would like to have nodes automatically wake up when > needed and go to sleep when idle for some time. My > ganglia logs tell me that there is considerable idle > time on ou

Re: [Beowulf] Strange SGE scheduling problem

2008-07-23 Thread Reuti
Hi, Am 22.07.2008 um 23:54 schrieb Schoenefeld, Keith: My cluster has 8 slots (cores)/node in the form of two quad-core processors. Only recently we've started running jobs on it that require 12 slots. We've noticed significant speed problems running multiple 12 slot jobs, and quickly disc

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Religious wars

2008-07-23 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Peter St. John wrote: Fair enough, I'll settle for Gary Oldman. We'll let RGB have Anthony Hopkins. No, no, no. John Malkovitch. The resemblance is actually fairly striking. Bald, pudgy, whiny sardonic voice, sexy as all hell. Might even fool my wife...;-) rgb Pe

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Religious wars

2008-07-23 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Greg Lindahl wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:54:47AM -0400, Bob Drzyzgula wrote: It is not even certain that the default, base install of a Linux system will include Emacs This just indicates a conspiracy of vi users. Or, more likely, vi users complained that emacs was

[Beowulf] Strange SGE scheduling problem

2008-07-23 Thread Schoenefeld, Keith
My cluster has 8 slots (cores)/node in the form of two quad-core processors. Only recently we've started running jobs on it that require 12 slots. We've noticed significant speed problems running multiple 12 slot jobs, and quickly discovered that the node that was running 4 slots on one job and 4

Re: [Beowulf] Green Cluster?

2008-07-23 Thread Huw Lynes
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 21:20 -0400, Joe Landman wrote: > Greg Lindahl wrote: > That said, we like IPMI in general, and even better when it works :( > Sometimes it does go south, in a hurry (gets into a strange state). In > which case, removing power is the only option. Agreed. Currently my most

[Beowulf] problem with binary file on NFS

2008-07-23 Thread Jörg Saßmannshausen
Dear all, I have a problem with a selfwritten program on my small cluster. The cluster nodes are PIII 500/800 MHz machines, the /home is distributed via NFS from a PIII 1 GHz machine. All nodes are running on Debian Etch. The program in question (polymc_s) is in the users /home directory and is

Re: [Beowulf] Green Cluster?

2008-07-23 Thread Alex Younts
A graduate student at Purdue did research into this topic. He presented his work at the 2007 Linux Cluster Institute conference and the professor he works with still uses the same technique to dynamically add or remove nodes from his cluster. His paper can be found at: http://www.linuxcluster

Re: [Beowulf] Green Cluster?

2008-07-23 Thread Brian Oborn
[snip] Generally speaking, if you have a large cluster, and you have enough work for it, it is going to be running flat out 24x7. If it isn't, you've bought more hardware than you need. There are many cases where a cluster is not used for continuously for calculations, but rather to reduce tu

Re: [Beowulf] Green Cluster?

2008-07-23 Thread fkruggel
Thanks for your suggestions. Let me be more specific. I would like to have nodes automatically wake up when needed and go to sleep when idle for some time. My ganglia logs tell me that there is considerable idle time on our cluster. The issue is that I would like to have the cluster adapt *automati