Hi all,
I've used Arch for the last 4 years and I'm increasingly comfortable using it
On the switch to systemd, people interested in the topic should give a
look at the Fosdem presentation about the project a year ago ;)
systemd, beyond init
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyMLi8QF6sw&feature=plcp
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
> On Sunday 22 Jul 2012 15:14:13 Myra Nelson wrote:
>> My comparison to file size was meant to be extended to the complete
>> removal of rc.d and conf.d or the removal of several files in those
>> directories. Maybe that concept is not that
> systemd is not difficult to use;
But it isn't as easy untill the gui comes along is it. I'd guess an
ncurses gui is planned but apparently Fedora is only meant as a desktop?
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> i don't have any figures/proof but i think systemd is gaining quite a
> bit of populatiry on the embedded linux market -- where space and
> minimalist is king -- at least ii feel like i've read that a few times
> recently :-)
You must mean a fraction of the embedded world as.
Systemd is larger
On Sunday 22 Jul 2012 15:14:13 Myra Nelson wrote:
> My comparison to file size was meant to be extended to the complete
> removal of rc.d and conf.d or the removal of several files in those
> directories. Maybe that concept is not that important. I didn't mean
> to imply the KISS principle was abou
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On 07/22/2012 04:04 PM, Karol Babioch wrote:
> Am 22.07.2012 22:59, schrieb David C. Rankin:
>> > If the systemd benefits outweigh the benefits of the current init and the
>> > time-cost to the community to undergo the change is small, then it is wor
Hi,
Am 22.07.2012 22:59, schrieb David C. Rankin:
> If the systemd benefits outweigh the benefits of the current init and the
> time-cost to the community to undergo the change is small, then it is worth
> doing.
Once again: The proposed change is not about systemd. The maintainer(s)
plan to su
On 07/22/2012 02:38 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> probably beating a dead horse here, bu IMO it's just blatantly
> superior all ways imaginable ... this becomes increasingly obvious the
> longer you work with it (check out user-sessions! yay!).
With anything like this consideration all I care
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Karol Babioch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 22.07.2012 21:26, schrieb Nicholas MIller:
>> Though your(Karol) right, that a few bytes doesn't matter in the days of
>> TB+ hard drives, it might be something worth looking at (how much more
>> space will systemd use/save). And
Hi again,
Am 22.07.2012 21:54, schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas:
> In modern filesystems (Btrfs, NTFS, Reiserfs), sufficiently small
> files can be stored in the inode itself, taking up zero blocks.
Offtopic: Calling NTFS "modern" is quite ironic ;).
Best regards,
Karol Babioch
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Hi,
Am 22.07.2012 21:54, schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas:
> In modern filesystems (Btrfs, NTFS, Reiserfs), sufficiently small
> files can be stored in the inode itself, taking up zero blocks.
But even then: With a bunch of more files, you'll need a bunch of more
inodes. So unless your original file itse
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Karol Babioch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 22.07.2012 21:26, schrieb Nicholas MIller:
>> Though your(Karol) right, that a few bytes doesn't matter in the days of
>> TB+ hard drives, it might be something worth looking at (how much more
>> space will systemd use/save). And
Hi,
Am 22.07.2012 21:26, schrieb Nicholas MIller:
> Though your(Karol) right, that a few bytes doesn't matter in the days of
> TB+ hard drives, it might be something worth looking at (how much more
> space will systemd use/save). And on some systems (mostly older) it may
> matter.
No, it doesn't
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Nicholas MIller wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Karol Babioch wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am 22.07.2012 21:11, schrieb Myra Nelson:
>> > On my system rc.conf is 716 B. The three files
>> > (hostname 8 B, vconsole.conf 47 B, and locale.conf 30 B) take up less
>
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Karol Babioch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 22.07.2012 21:11, schrieb Myra Nelson:
> > On my system rc.conf is 716 B. The three files
> > (hostname 8 B, vconsole.conf 47 B, and locale.conf 30 B) take up less
> > space. Granted at the moment it's more but that will be offset
Hi,
Am 22.07.2012 21:11, schrieb Myra Nelson:
> On my system rc.conf is 716 B. The three files
> (hostname 8 B, vconsole.conf 47 B, and locale.conf 30 B) take up less
> space. Granted at the moment it's more but that will be offset when
> the move to systemd can be completed.
You don't really tr
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Myra Nelson wrote:
> I've followed this discussion closely and, as can be seen in one of
> the posts below, I initially objected to it. I had previously tried
> systemd with little success. Next I carefully re-read all the
> objections, complaints, rants, raves, e
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