Re: [arch-general] udev realtime group

2011-12-02 Thread Ignacio Galmarino
> > > I start using testing again a couple of days ago and now on every boot i > > get this error msg: > > > > localhost udevd[313]: specified group 'realtime' unknown > > > > realtime group does not exist in my computer > > > > Any idea ? > > > > Thanks > > > > Ignacio > > FS#26343? > Yes, thanks

Re: [arch-general] udev realtime group

2011-12-02 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:56:35 -0600 Ignacio Galmarino wrote: > I start using testing again a couple of days ago and now on every boot i > get this error msg: > > localhost udevd[313]: specified group 'realtime' unknown > > realtime group does not exist in my computer > > Any idea ? > > Thanks >

[arch-general] udev realtime group

2011-12-02 Thread Ignacio Galmarino
I start using testing again a couple of days ago and now on every boot i get this error msg: localhost udevd[313]: specified group 'realtime' unknown realtime group does not exist in my computer Any idea ? Thanks Ignacio

Re: [arch-general] udev rules from hplip are invalid after update

2011-11-21 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote: > In my case I solve the problem by installing the package hplip-plugin > from AUR. Somehow when the rules where installed by the hp-setup > program something goes wrong. Yeah, the upstream rules are wrong, you need the Arch supplied o

Re: [arch-general] udev rules from hplip are invalid after update

2011-11-21 Thread Hector Martinez-Seara
Hi, In my case I solve the problem by installing the package hplip-plugin from AUR. Somehow when the rules where installed by the hp-setup program something goes wrong. Hector On 21 November 2011 21:12, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > Excerpts from Tom Gundersen's message of 2011-11-20 14:13:05 +0100

Re: [arch-general] udev rules from hplip are invalid after update

2011-11-21 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Tom Gundersen's message of 2011-11-20 14:13:05 +0100: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara > wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > My system is fully updated so I guess that I have to assume  that I > > should file a bug against hplip. > > There are no /etc/udev/rules.d/* file

Re: [arch-general] udev rules from hplip are invalid after update

2011-11-20 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote: > Hi Tom, > My system is fully updated so I guess that I have to assume  that I > should file a bug against hplip. There are no /etc/udev/rules.d/* files in the official hplip package, maybe they are some old stale files that you shoul

Re: [arch-general] udev rules from hplip are invalid after update

2011-11-20 Thread Hector Martinez-Seara
Hi Tom, My system is fully updated so I guess that I have to assume that I should file a bug against hplip. Hector On 20 November 2011 14:19, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara > wrote: >> After yesterday update I get the following message when reboot

Re: [arch-general] udev rules from hplip are invalid after update

2011-11-20 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote: > After yesterday update I get the following message when rebooting the > computer (the computer boots fine): > > # > Sun Nov 20 12:45:34 2011: :: Triggering UDev uevents    [BUSY]  

[arch-general] udev rules from hplip are invalid after update

2011-11-20 Thread Hector Martinez-Seara
Hi, After yesterday update I get the following message when rebooting the computer (the computer boots fine): # Sun Nov 20 12:45:34 2011: :: Triggering UDev uevents[BUSY][DONE] Sun Nov 20 12:45:34 2011: :: Loading User-specified Modules

Re: [arch-general] Udev Automounting Rule

2011-09-12 Thread Bastien Dejean
Bastien Dejean wrote: > What the... ?! It seems that the Popcorn Hour I'm plugging my drive to is chowning and chmoding it. Any Popcorn Hour experts out there? -- Bastien

Re: [arch-general] Udev Automounting Rule

2011-09-10 Thread Bastien Dejean
Jesse Jaara a écrit : > No those are the the user/group of the device node FILE > /dev/sdc1 and teell who is allowed to interact with the disk. I solved it with: # chown -hR root:storage /media/foo # chmod 775 /media/foo Cheers, -- Bastien

Re: [arch-general] Udev Automounting Rule

2011-09-10 Thread Jesse Jaara
2011/9/10 Bastien Dejean : > Jesse Jaara a écrit : > >> To put it simply the ext filesystem supports UNIX file attributes >> and stores the owner and group of the file in the disk > > % ls -l /dev/sdc1 > brw-rw 1 root storage 8, 49 Sep 10 12:48 /dev/sdc1 > > Shouldn't /media/foo have the same u

Re: [arch-general] Udev Automounting Rule

2011-09-10 Thread Bastien Dejean
Jesse Jaara a écrit : > To put it simply the ext filesystem supports UNIX file attributes > and stores the owner and group of the file in the disk % ls -l /dev/sdc1 brw-rw 1 root storage 8, 49 Sep 10 12:48 /dev/sdc1 Shouldn't /media/foo have the same user/group ? -- Bastien

Re: [arch-general] Udev Automounting Rule

2011-09-10 Thread Bastien Dejean
Jesse Jaara a écrit : > To put it simply the ext filesystem supports UNIX file attributes > and stores the owner and group of the file in the disk, unlike > FAT does. So currently the user/group the ext3 says the file > is owned by, doesn't exist in the current system. All right, but I did: # chow

Re: [arch-general] Udev Automounting Rule

2011-09-10 Thread Jesse Jaara
To put it simply the ext filesystem supports UNIX file attributes and stores the owner and group of the file in the disk, unlike FAT does. So currently the user/group the ext3 says the file is owned by, doesn't exist in the current system. -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help h

[arch-general] Udev Automounting Rule

2011-09-10 Thread Bastien Dejean
Hi, I'm using the first rule given here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev When I plug a USB (fat32) stick, the permissions of the corresponding directory under /media are fine (root:users), but when I plug an external HD (ext3, also through USB), I get the following user:group settings:

Re: [arch-general] udev slow to start up

2011-01-25 Thread sand_man
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:20:37 +1030 "Ty John (sand_man)" wrote: > On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 19:28 -0500, Alexander Lam wrote: > > A potential solution would be to make udev startup in parallel - > > but this is kinda hacky because all your devices might not be ready > > in time for login or fsck or...

Re: [arch-general] udev slow to start up

2011-01-20 Thread Ty John (sand_man)
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 19:28 -0500, Alexander Lam wrote: > A potential solution would be to make udev startup in parallel - but this is > kinda hacky because all your devices might not be ready in time for login or > fsck or... > you get what I mean. > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Ty John (sa

Re: [arch-general] udev slow to start up

2011-01-16 Thread Alexander Lam
A potential solution would be to make udev startup in parallel - but this is kinda hacky because all your devices might not be ready in time for login or fsck or... you get what I mean. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Ty John (sand_man) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm concerned about this line: > >

Re: [arch-general] udev slow to start up

2011-01-15 Thread Ty John (sand_man)
> Hi, > > I'm concerned about this line: > > Am 10.01.2011 09:44, schrieb Ty John (sand_man): > > ata2.00: failed command: IDENTIFY PACKET DEVICE > > Either your device is not behaving normally, or there is something weird > going on. Have you the latest firmware on your drive? Is the problem >

Re: [arch-general] udev slow to start up

2011-01-11 Thread Dario
Hi! In data lunedì 10 gennaio 2011 09:44:23, Ty John ha scritto: > ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen > ata2.00: failed command: IDENTIFY PACKET DEVICE I have too random similar errors, I don't remember exactly, but they sure looks like yours. In my case I solved by

Re: [arch-general] udev slow to start up

2011-01-11 Thread Karol Babioch
Hi, I'm concerned about this line: Am 10.01.2011 09:44, schrieb Ty John (sand_man): > ata2.00: failed command: IDENTIFY PACKET DEVICE Either your device is not behaving normally, or there is something weird going on. Have you the latest firmware on your drive? Is the problem gone, when you disat

[arch-general] udev slow to start up

2011-01-10 Thread sand_man
Hi guys, I have a brand new computer and every time it boots it stalls for a while at "starting udev". Maybe about 10-15 seconds. Then when it gets to the part "Waiting for udev events to be processed" it then stalls for another 30 seconds or so. When I boot from the Arch install disk I don't get

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.06.2010 16:45, schrieb Juan Diego Tascón: > modprobe --resolve-alias usb:v0AC8p305Bd0100dcFFdsc00dp00icFFiscFFipFF > > it shows nothing. This works for me on 2.6.34-ARCH. Maybe something went wrong during depmod. See if the problem persists if you run 'depmod' as root. signature.asc Desc

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.06.2010 16:45, schrieb Juan Diego Tascón: > modinfo gspca_zc3xx > > and I got this line among a lot more: > > alias: usb:v0AC8p305Bd*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip* > > which obviously matches with mine: > > usb:v0AC8p305Bd0100dcFFdsc00dp00icFFiscFFipFF > > however when I run > > modprobe

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-09 Thread Juan Diego Tascón
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 09.06.2010 15:11, schrieb Juan Diego Tascón: >>> In the above case, you would run: >>> modprobe --resolve-alias usb:v0AC8p305Bd0100dcFFdsc00dp00icFFiscFFipFF >> >> I ran that and it didn't return anything, are these ids stored inside >> t

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.06.2010 15:11, schrieb Juan Diego Tascón: >> In the above case, you would run: >> modprobe --resolve-alias usb:v0AC8p305Bd0100dcFFdsc00dp00icFFiscFFipFF > > I ran that and it didn't return anything, are these ids stored inside > the modules (*.ko)? Yes, visible with modinfo. signature.as

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-09 Thread Juan Diego Tascón
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Alexander Duscheleit wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:55:33 +0900 > Juan Diego Tascón wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jan de Groot >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:49 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: >> >> Actually it is installed, it is called gsp

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-09 Thread Juan Diego Tascón
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 09.06.2010 02:38, schrieb Matthew Monaco: >> On 06/08/2010 02:41 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: >>> On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:16 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: Good day, I'm getting an error every time I plug-in my webcam as a resu

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.06.2010 02:38, schrieb Matthew Monaco: > On 06/08/2010 02:41 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:16 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: >>> Good day, >>> >>> I'm getting an error every time I plug-in my webcam as a result the >>> corresponding module is not being loaded automatica

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-08 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 06/08/2010 02:41 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:16 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: Good day, I'm getting an error every time I plug-in my webcam as a result the corresponding module is not being loaded automatically so I have to load it by myself. Any one knows a way to fix

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-08 Thread Madhurya Kakati
2010/6/8 Juan Diego Tascón : > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Jan de Groot wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:16 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: >>> Good day, >>> >>> I'm getting an error every time I plug-in my webcam as a result the >>> corresponding module is not being loaded automatically so

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-08 Thread Alexander Duscheleit
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:55:33 +0900 Juan Diego Tascón wrote: > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jan de Groot > wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:49 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: > >> Actually it is installed, it is called gspca_zc3xx, if I load it > >> the webcam works, the thing is it is not b

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-08 Thread Juan Diego Tascón
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jan de Groot wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:49 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: >> Actually it is installed, it is called gspca_zc3xx, if I load it the >> webcam works, the thing is it is not being loaded automatically >> >> > All modules have device aliases for t

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-07 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:49 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: > Actually it is installed, it is called gspca_zc3xx, if I load it the > webcam works, the thing is it is not being loaded automatically > > > All modules have device aliases for the devices it supports. Udev just > > tries to load a modu

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-07 Thread Juan Diego Tascón
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Jan de Groot wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:16 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: >> Good day, >> >> I'm getting an error every time I plug-in my webcam as a result the >> corresponding module is not being loaded automatically so I have to >> load it by myself. Any

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-07 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:16 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: > Good day, > > I'm getting an error every time I plug-in my webcam as a result the > corresponding module is not being loaded automatically so I have to > load it by myself. Any one knows a way to fix this? > > This is the error: > > l

[arch-general] udev

2010-06-07 Thread Juan Diego Tascón
Good day, I'm getting an error every time I plug-in my webcam as a result the corresponding module is not being loaded automatically so I have to load it by myself. Any one knows a way to fix this? This is the error: load-modules.sh: 'usb:v0AC8p305Bd0100dcFFdsc00dp00icFFiscFFipFF' is not a valid

Re: [arch-general] udev and/or device-mapper problem

2010-02-11 Thread Vincent Van Houtte
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 12:50 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 11.02.2010 11:56, schrieb Karolina Lindqvist: > >> Your custom kernel is misconfigured, the most likely candidate being: > >> > >> $ zgrep CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED /proc/config.gz > >> # CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 is not set > >> > >> If

Re: [arch-general] udev and/or device-mapper problem

2010-02-11 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 11.02.2010 11:56, schrieb Karolina Lindqvist: >> Your custom kernel is misconfigured, the most likely candidate being: >> >> $ zgrep CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED /proc/config.gz >> # CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 is not set >> >> If this option is set to yes, udev will fail to create devices properly. >

Re: [arch-general] udev and/or device-mapper problem

2010-02-11 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
Wednesday 10 February 2010 skrev Thomas Bächler: > Your custom kernel is misconfigured, the most likely candidate being: > > $ zgrep CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED /proc/config.gz > # CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 is not set > > If this option is set to yes, udev will fail to create devices properly. > I

Re: [arch-general] udev and/or device-mapper problem

2010-02-10 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 10.02.2010 16:00, schrieb karolina.lindqv...@kramnet.se: > I updated my system, and then on reboot it could not find the disk /dev/sda > anymore. A pity, since it hold the boot and root file systems. I have a > custom > kernel, for various reasons, but now I could not get my custom kernel, of

Re: [arch-general] udev and/or device-mapper problem

2010-02-10 Thread karolina . lindqvist
Thursday 28 January 2010 skrev Hussam Al-Tayeb: > I updated to udev, cryptsetup and device mapper from testing the > installed kernel 2.6.32.6 and rebooted. Something similar, or the same thing, happened to me. I updated my system, and then on reboot it could not find the disk /dev/sda anymore.

Re: [arch-general] udev and/or device-mapper problem

2010-01-28 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 18:25 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 28.01.2010 18:00, schrieb Hussam Al-Tayeb: > > I updated to udev, cryptsetup and device mapper from testing the > > installed kernel 2.6.32.6 and rebooted. > > now /dev/mapper/root and /dev/dm-0 are not there but /etc/mtab > > mentions /

Re: [arch-general] udev and/or device-mapper problem

2010-01-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 28.01.2010 18:00, schrieb Hussam Al-Tayeb: > I updated to udev, cryptsetup and device mapper from testing the > installed kernel 2.6.32.6 and rebooted. > now /dev/mapper/root and /dev/dm-0 are not there but /etc/mtab > mentions /dev/mapper/root > /dev/mapper/home and /dev/dm-1 exist > The compu

[arch-general] udev and/or device-mapper problem

2010-01-28 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
I updated to udev, cryptsetup and device mapper from testing the installed kernel 2.6.32.6 and rebooted. now /dev/mapper/root and /dev/dm-0 are not there but /etc/mtab mentions /dev/mapper/root /dev/mapper/home and /dev/dm-1 exist The computer boots till the fsck part then stops because there is n

[arch-general] Udev rules

2009-12-17 Thread Majikinszzz
Hi I'm coming from an ubuntu background where this line in the udev.rule file worked. SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="0fd1", ATTR{idProduct}=="1000", ATTR{bConfigurationValue}=="1",RUN+="/bin/bash -c 'echo 3 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/%b/bConfigurationValue'" However this does not work in Arch

[arch-general] Udev rules

2009-12-17 Thread Majikinszzz
Hi I'm coming from an ubuntu background where this line in the udev.rule file worked. SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="0fd1", ATTR{idProduct}=="1000", ATTR{bConfigurationValue}=="1",RUN+="/bin/bash -c 'echo 3 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/%b/bConfigurationValue'" However this does not work in Arch

Re: [arch-general] udev replacing hal? WAS xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread LI Ye
It seems that devicekit will replace some functions of hal, while udev replaces some other parts. But I don't know much further details either. Maybe a roadmap would make all these stuff clear~ Regards 2009/12/2 Ng Oon-Ee : > On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 03:09 +0100, vlad wrote: >> Why is hal dead? >> Mo

[arch-general] udev replacing hal? WAS xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 03:09 +0100, vlad wrote: > Why is hal dead? > More information on this and on "libudev"? > > Vlad I'd like to know more about this as well. The articles I've found online seem more marketing than details orientated (udev will cook your lunch while paying your income tax stuf

Re: [arch-general] udev and high load.......

2009-10-21 Thread David C. Rankin
On Wednesday 21 October 2009 01:02:15 pm Dario wrote: > The udev daemon was possessed:D > rotflmao :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

Re: [arch-general] udev and high load.......

2009-10-21 Thread Dario
In data mercoledì 21 ottobre 2009 15:08:43, David Houston ha scritto: > Rebooted today and the problem is gone?!?! The udev daemon was possessed:D ciao! Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com

Re: [arch-general] udev and high load.......

2009-10-21 Thread David Houston
Rebooted today and the problem is gone?!?! Dave - r...@crankyadmin.net cra...@archlinux.us On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM, David Houston wrote: > Hi all, > > Over the last day or so, udev has been sending my system load though the > roof?!? Nothing has changed on the system. I ha

[arch-general] udev and high load.......

2009-10-20 Thread David Houston
Hi all, Over the last day or so, udev has been sending my system load though the roof?!? Nothing has changed on the system. I have included a screencap of htop for your viewing pleasure. Anybody got any idea why udev is freaking out? It is now loagging my system. Oh yeah, problem presists after a

Re: [arch-general] udev rules policy

2009-04-23 Thread David C. Rankin
Aaron Griffin wrote: > Actually, that's not the same. I have a suspicion suse's udev is far > older, but the dir we're looking at should be /lib/udev/rules.d vs > /etc/udev/rules.d > Ahah!, Your right Aaron. I missed the /lib/udev/'rules.d'. I know it has been that way for a while, at least sinc

Re: [arch-general] udev rules policy

2009-04-23 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:22 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > Tobias Powalowski wrote: >> Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 schrieb Damjan Georgievski: >>> What is the policy for Udev rules in ArchLinux? >>> >>> There are 2 places where udev rules can be placed, /lib/udev/rules.d/ >>> and /etc/udev/rules.d/.

Re: [arch-general] udev rules policy

2009-04-23 Thread David C. Rankin
Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 schrieb Damjan Georgievski: >> What is the policy for Udev rules in ArchLinux? >> >> There are 2 places where udev rules can be placed, /lib/udev/rules.d/ >> and /etc/udev/rules.d/. >> Now, I think the /lib/ directory should be only for the rules

Re: [arch-general] udev rules policy

2009-04-22 Thread Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > >> Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 schrieb Damjan Georgievski: >> >>> What is the policy for Udev rules in ArchLinux? >>> >>> There are 2 places where udev rules can be placed, /lib/udev/rules.d/ >>> and /etc/udev

Re: [arch-general] udev rules policy

2009-04-22 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 schrieb Damjan Georgievski: >> What is the policy for Udev rules in ArchLinux? >> >> There are 2 places where udev rules can be placed, /lib/udev/rules.d/ >> and /etc/udev/rules.d/. >> Now, I think the /lib/ dire

Re: [arch-general] udev rules policy

2009-04-22 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 schrieb Damjan Georgievski: > What is the policy for Udev rules in ArchLinux? > > There are 2 places where udev rules can be placed, /lib/udev/rules.d/ > and /etc/udev/rules.d/. > Now, I think the /lib/ directory should be only for the rules coming > from upstream udev, an

[arch-general] udev rules policy

2009-04-22 Thread Damjan Georgievski
What is the policy for Udev rules in ArchLinux? There are 2 places where udev rules can be placed, /lib/udev/rules.d/ and /etc/udev/rules.d/. Now, I think the /lib/ directory should be only for the rules coming from upstream udev, and the /etc/ directory is for rules coming from ArchLinux packages

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Attila
On Dienstag, 10. März 2009 22:20 Thomas Bächler wrote: > I have root:disk in /lib/udev/devices/loop/ and in /dev/loop/. What a silly error of mine, i look only for the links and not inside of the loop directory ... sorry. > I am thinking about creating only /dev/loop/0 and /dev/loop0, as that is

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Thomas Bächler
Attila schrieb: These devices are simply copied in rc.sysinit line 23: /bin/cp -a /lib/udev/devices/* /dev/ udev rules are not applied until the module is loaded and a uevent for creating the device is issued, then udev reads the rule(s) and acts accordingly. The funny thing what i recognized t

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Attila
On Dienstag, 10. März 2009 21:06 Thomas Bächler wrote: First, thank you very much for the excellent informations. > The permissions of /dev/net/tun do not matter at all. If you access the > device, you will only be able to use those interfaces that you own. Yes, that is what i now understand bet

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Thomas Bächler
Attila schrieb: If the default group of some of these devices should be changed (looks like tun should be in the network group by default), please file a bug report Oh, i don't know if tun should have this permissions or if the file mask 666 is needed from another application. Until udev-139 th

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Attila
On Dienstag, 10. März 2009 19:43 Jan Spakula wrote: > This reminds of a problem Dusty had and discussed on forums: > http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=60060 > Result: the device node was created before the rule was applied. Thanks for the information. So i can stop searching in which star

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Attila
On Dienstag, 10. März 2009 20:05 Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: > The tun dev is statically created, and the perms are adjusted in > /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules then if you need to adjust these > perms make a file >50 in /etc/udev/rules.d/ like this: Oh, i forgot to post the whole line

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Attila
On Dienstag, 10. März 2009 19:49 Aaron Griffin wrote: > If the default group of some of these devices should be changed (looks > like tun should be in the network group by default), please file a bug > report Oh, i don't know if tun should have this permissions or if the file mask 666 is needed f

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Thomas Bächler
Allan McRae schrieb: Files are removed then the new one extracted, so you should end up with the package permissions. Shared directories are more interesting... (you will get a warning about permission differences). Can this be overridden with NoUpgrade or NoExtract? I would guess so. sign

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Allan McRae
Thomas Bächler wrote: Aaron Griffin schrieb: tun and a few other devices (loopX) are created statically in /lib/udev/devices/ and then placed on top of /dev/ when udev starts up. You can modify the initial permissions of these devices there How does pacman handle this on updates? Does it prefe

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Thomas Bächler
Aaron Griffin schrieb: tun and a few other devices (loopX) are created statically in /lib/udev/devices/ and then placed on top of /dev/ when udev starts up. You can modify the initial permissions of these devices there How does pacman handle this on updates? Does it prefer the mode of the on-d

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
Attila wrote: > Hi, > > i use a script to prepare a bridged network for a kvm session and therefore i > have this line in /etc/udev/rules.d/01-attila.rules: > > KERNEL=="tun", NAME="net/%k", MODE="0660", GROUP="network" > > After upgrading udev my file permissions of the new persistent /dev/net/tun

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Attila wrote: >> Hi, >> >> i use a script to prepare a bridged network for a kvm session and therefore i >> have this line in /etc/udev/rules.d/01-attila.rules: >> >> KERNEL=="tun", NAME="net/%k", MODE="0660

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Attila wrote: > Hi, > > i use a script to prepare a bridged network for a kvm session and therefore i > have this line in /etc/udev/rules.d/01-attila.rules: > > KERNEL=="tun", NAME="net/%k", MODE="0660", GROUP="network" > > After upgrading udev my file permissions

Re: [arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Jan Spakula
Excerpts from Attila's message of Di Mär 10 18:51:15 +0100 2009: > Hi, > > i use a script to prepare a bridged network for a kvm session and therefore i > have this line in /etc/udev/rules.d/01-attila.rules: > > KERNEL=="tun", NAME="net/%k", MODE="0660", GROUP="network" > > After upgrading udev

[arch-general] udev-139 and file permissions of /dev/net/tun

2009-03-10 Thread Attila
Hi, i use a script to prepare a bridged network for a kvm session and therefore i have this line in /etc/udev/rules.d/01-attila.rules: KERNEL=="tun", NAME="net/%k", MODE="0660", GROUP="network" After upgrading udev my file permissions of the new persistent /dev/net/tun looks so after booting up:

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aaron Griffin schrieb: >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Amanai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:27:32 -0700, Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Amanai

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-27 Thread 甘露(Lu Gan)
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aaron Griffin schrieb: >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Amanai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:27:32 -0700, Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Amanai

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-27 Thread Thomas Bächler
Aaron Griffin schrieb: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Amanai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:27:32 -0700, Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Amanai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there no maintaince on udev anymore? This is my fault. I grab

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Amanai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:27:32 -0700, Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Amanai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Is there no maintaince on udev anymore? >>> >> >> Could you be even more obscure

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-26 Thread from Saanichton BC
There was a recent news story about udev and how they want people to just use the vanilla rules rather than go off naming all their devices in their own way. http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;605162254;fp;4194304;fpid;1 C

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-26 Thread Xavier
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Roman Kyrylych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wouldn't say there are *exciting* changes > (these are rare for this type of software) > but here are the latest changes > v125 - http://lwn.net/Articles/291028/ > v126 - http://lwn.net/Articles/292596/ > > I think ud

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-26 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/8/26 Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Amanai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I was just wondering, it is outdated and I didn't see any udev release >> updates anymore. That's all. >> >> There is no problem with the latest version, it works. > > Cool, so what is

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-26 Thread Xavier
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Amanai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was just wondering, it is outdated and I didn't see any udev release > updates anymore. That's all. > > There is no problem with the latest version, it works. Cool, so what is so exciting in the latest version?

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-26 Thread Bjørn Hamra
hamra (Disclaimer: I did little to no research prior to posting this. HA-HA.) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanai > Sent: 26. august 2008 22:35 > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux > Subject: Re: [arch-genera

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-26 Thread Amanai
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:27:32 -0700, Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Amanai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there no maintaince on udev anymore? Could you be even more obscure? Are you simply referring to the fact that udev 119 is outdated? Did you at least t

Re: [arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-26 Thread Xavier
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Amanai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there no maintaince on udev anymore? > Could you be even more obscure? Are you simply referring to the fact that udev 119 is outdated? Did you at least try the latest version on your system and can confirm it works? And what

[arch-general] UDEV

2008-08-26 Thread Amanai
Is there no maintaince on udev anymore?

Re: [arch-general] udev-118-5 udev.rules.pacsave

2008-03-13 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 schrieb Neil Darlow: > Hi, > > Is it safe to delete /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules.pacsave following the > update? > > Regards, > Neil Darlow yes all shoould be covered by the new rules files, if you have concerns or breakage keep it as backup. greetings tpowa -- Tobi

[arch-general] udev-118-5 udev.rules.pacsave

2008-03-13 Thread Neil Darlow
Hi, Is it safe to delete /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules.pacsave following the update? Regards, Neil Darlow