On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote:
> [2012-10-14 10:19:10 +0200] Menachem Moystoviz:
>> So in essence, what you're proposing is to only upgrade from VPS to private
>> hosting when the resiliency of my private server is good enough - i.e. not
>> most
>> naive setups? It does ma
[2012-10-14 10:19:10 +0200] Menachem Moystoviz:
> So in essence, what you're proposing is to only upgrade from VPS to private
> hosting when the resiliency of my private server is good enough - i.e. not
> most
> naive setups? It does make sense, and would make backups more urgent
> and important.
>> > That's debateable, DOS sure, but you have much greater control and speed
>> > of access with a local mail server and past mail will still be
>> > accessible during any attack.
>> I wasn't referring to DOS/DDOS-style reliability. In my mind,
>> reliability ~= uptime > 99.999%
>> Of course, you'
[2012-10-14 00:21:15 +0200] Menachem Moystoviz:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > Sending to you directly as this mail was rejected by the list!!!
> That's a pity, this mail is informative, however the mods might
> disagree with the tone you used with respect to Yahoo an
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
>> My other option is to host my own mail server, either at home or on a
>> VPS (which would cost more),
>> which means much lowered reliability, which means much lowered
>> reliability
>
> Sending to you directly as this mail was rejected by
2012/10/12 Menachem Moystoviz
> From the responses I've received, I gather the following:
> - Crypto is only going to get me so far, unless I can coerce all
> incoming email to use TLS
> - Until I have a steady income, my best bet is to use Google Apps for my
> domain
> and to download all inco
>From the responses I've received, I gather the following:
- Crypto is only going to get me so far, unless I can coerce all
incoming email to use TLS
- Until I have a steady income, my best bet is to use Google Apps for my domain
and to download all incoming mail - probably deleting it from
Googl
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 02:13:54PM -0400, Dave Reisner wrote:
> Google has no interest in singular people. Moreover, Googlers who take
> an interest in data or logs belonging to singular people find themselves
> no longer working at Google.
I would believe that googlers who are "caught" peeking at
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 07:49:00PM -0500, sung...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 02:13:54PM -0400, Dave Reisner wrote:
>
> > Really, just add two-factor auth to a gmail account and be done with
> > it. Google has no interest in singular people.
>
> It should be noted that Gmail's two-
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:23:08AM +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:49 AM, wrote:
>
> > Neither of these things would stop a truly determined
> > government-level attacker (unencrypted mail is still vulnerable
> > in-flight for instance), but it would be useful if you have not
On 10/11/2012 07:35 PM, Menachem Moystoviz wrote:
Therefore, I think I should go with the first route, possibly
searching for ways to ensure end-to-end encryption
and to make the email address's domain my own.
Both are easy to do. Fetchmail supports SSL encryption on your
connection to the ho
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:49 AM, wrote:
>
> Neither of these things would stop a truly determined government-level
> attacker (unencrypted mail is still vulnerable in-flight for instance),
> but it would be useful if you have not yet been identified as someone of
> interest.
>
> guns
Being O
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 02:13:54PM -0400, Dave Reisner wrote:
> Really, just add two-factor auth to a gmail account and be done with
> it. Google has no interest in singular people.
It should be noted that Gmail's two-factor authentication provides
no extra security if you're planning on using it
On 10/11/2012 09:14 AM, Taylor Hedberg wrote:
And I've never set up DKIM, SPF, etc. and yet I've never had problems
with people receiving mail from my domain. Results may vary, of
course, but I don't think it's a big deal as long as you aren't
hosting your MTA on a PC in your basement with a dy
Reading through the responses, I find that my previous evaluation of
my options was correct.
The most reliable and easiest solution, by far, would be to set up a
standard account,
and to download a copy of all emails. The only problems with this are
the lack of control and privacy.
My other option
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:39:17 +0200
Menachem Moystoviz wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:29 PM, phanisvara wrote:
> > On Thursday 11 Oct 2012 18:18:10 Menachem Moystoviz wrote:
> >> Basically, the suggestion I'm seeing here is: go, work, get a VPS -
> >> can probably get one for cheap - and setu
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 06:18:10PM +0200, Menachem Moystoviz wrote:
> Basically, the suggestion I'm seeing here is: go, work, get a VPS -
> can probably get one for cheap - and setup Arch on it.
> Sounds good. Will only have to figure out how to get money...
>
> Gesh
Yes, and then spend the rest
On 10/11/2012 11:50 AM, Menachem Moystoviz wrote:
Aye, but I have the following concerns regarding hosting the server myself:
- Only have one server - no redundancy or reliability
This was a big concern for me. It's nice that when my server is down
emails just collect over at Dreamhost until
On Thursday 11 October 2012 13:23:32 Menachem Moystoviz wrote:
> The alternatives I'm aware of are:
> 2) Host my own server, paranoia demanding multiple redundant backups.
>
> Pros:
> 2) Gain vast amounts of power over my email
>
> Cons:
> 2) Hard to maintain, can crash at any moment, will drive
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Menachem Moystoviz wrote:
Recently, my paranoia levels have been ratcheted up by reading about
companies' treatment of their users, along with an increasing awareness
of my powerlessness with respect to most content providers.
I therefore curbed most online activity and have
> Use cheap vps with static ip, it will be much easier. I doubt anyone
> keeps their mail server in home with dynamic ip.
Why should you doubt that, I've read many a blog where that is the case.
A few also block any dsl ip even though there are far better ways of
detecting spamming viruses which
> Aye, but I have the following concerns regarding hosting the server myself:
> - Only have one server - no redundancy or reliability
> - No source of income -> no possibility of VPS AFAIK
> - DKIM, PTR, SPF, rDNS all require money and static IP (more money)
>
Easydns is cheap for spf but charges
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:29 PM, phanisvara wrote:
> On Thursday 11 Oct 2012 18:18:10 Menachem Moystoviz wrote:
>> Basically, the suggestion I'm seeing here is: go, work, get a VPS -
>> can probably get one for cheap - and setup Arch on it.
>> Sounds good. Will only have to figure out how to get m
On Thursday 11 Oct 2012 18:18:10 Menachem Moystoviz wrote:
> Basically, the suggestion I'm seeing here is: go, work, get a VPS -
> can probably get one for cheap - and setup Arch on it.
> Sounds good. Will only have to figure out how to get money...
seen this on G+ today. no idea if it can help yo
Basically, the suggestion I'm seeing here is: go, work, get a VPS -
can probably get one for cheap - and setup Arch on it.
Sounds good. Will only have to figure out how to get money...
Gesh
Menachem Moystoviz, Thu 2012-10-11 @ 17:50:20+0200:
> Aye, but I have the following concerns regarding hosting the server
> myself: - Only have one server - no redundancy or reliability
You can set up more than one if you're that worried about reliability,
but it's almost certainly overkill for a
Problem - as a high school graduate, I don't exactly have a steady source
of income. I could try to find income sources, but I'm not aware of what
cheap VPSs exist.
in the wiki, you can find some vps provider providing arch. check their
prizes, some are below 10€/month.
as i'm in germany, i use
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Taylor Hedberg wrote:
> Menachem Moystoviz, Thu 2012-10-11 @ 13:23:32+0200:
>> Which do you suggest? Do you have an alternative?
>
> I use Postfix + Dovecot on an Arch Linux Linode VPS and I'm pretty happy
> with it.
>
>
>> 2) Hard to maintain, can crash at any mom
> I do a combination of #1 and #2.
>
> I have a (cheap!) web hosting account (with Dreamhost) which also provides
> me with an email address on their mail system. I have the DNS entries for
> my domain point to Dreamhost, so any mail for my domain gets delivered
> there.
>
> But I only use Dreamho
Thank you. The questions posed were quite enlightening, and showed me
that this needs a bit more thought.
> I believe first question you need to answer is: what is your threat model?
>
> Are you afraid of losing all your mails (backups)? Losing control over
> your email address? What are you going
Menachem Moystoviz, Thu 2012-10-11 @ 13:23:32+0200:
> Which do you suggest? Do you have an alternative?
I use Postfix + Dovecot on an Arch Linux Linode VPS and I'm pretty happy
with it.
> 2) Hard to maintain, can crash at any moment, will drive me to early
> grave
It is a bit of a pain to initi
On 10/11/2012 07:23 AM, Menachem Moystoviz wrote:
Also, I've seen many users with email
addresses issued by their own domain, which leads me to believe some of
you may have gone through this before.
The alternatives I'm aware of are:
1) Do what most people do, and just sign up for webmail, par
I believe first question you need to answer is: what is your threat model?
Are you afraid of losing all your mails (backups)? Losing control over
your email address? What are you going to do if you can't login to
your mailbox tommorow? How much do you mind if someone else gain
access to your old m
Le Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:23:32 +0200,
Menachem Moystoviz a écrit :
> Recently, my paranoia levels have been ratcheted up by reading about
> companies' treatment of their users, along with an increasing
> awareness of my powerlessness with respect to most content providers.
> I therefore curbed most
Recently, my paranoia levels have been ratcheted up by reading about
companies' treatment of their users, along with an increasing awareness
of my powerlessness with respect to most content providers.
I therefore curbed most online activity and have attempted to host those
services I used on my own
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