On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 08:31:21 +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
>On 08/03/17 08:14, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>> On 03/07/2017 05:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> I confirm that apulse-git works with Firefox 52.0-1 and an asoundrc
>>> isn't required :).
>>
>> Keep in mind that firefox 52.0-2 us
On 08/03/17 08:14, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
> On 03/07/2017 05:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:18:19 +0100, LoneVVolf wrote:
>>> On 07-03-17 21:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:00:18 +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote:
> As a workaround, have y
On 03/07/2017 05:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:18:19 +0100, LoneVVolf wrote:
>> On 07-03-17 21:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:00:18 +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote:
As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio
emulation for A
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:18:19 +0100, LoneVVolf wrote:
>On 07-03-17 21:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:00:18 +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote:
>>> As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio
>>> emulation for ALSA. Some time ago, I used it successfully to run
>
On 07-03-17 21:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:00:18 +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote:
As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio
emulation for ALSA. Some time ago, I used it successfully to run Skype
(which also depends on pulseaudio) without having pulseaud
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:00:18 +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote:
>As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio
>emulation for ALSA. Some time ago, I used it successfully to run Skype
>(which also depends on pulseaudio) without having pulseaudio installed.
I don't know, if the r
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 05:32:30PM +0100, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
> So what? Is linux now about restricting user choice?
> While I generally agree with the referenced text, using it to justify
> restricting user chouce without reason is just
> nonsence. The way it is used, it is also one
>
> So what? Is linux now about restricting user choice?
>
Arch is a pragmatic distribution, both for the users and developers.
Upstream decided to make pulseaudio a hard dependency specifically to
reduce maintenance costs on their end. Arch devs really aren't in the
business of adopting such main
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 05:23:42PM +0100, Christian Rebischke wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:26:55AM +0100, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
> > Building firefox takes hours making this not really an option for many
> > users.
> > Arch has deviated before from the upstream default, I see no re
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:26:55AM +0100, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
> Building firefox takes hours making this not really an option for many users.
> Arch has deviated before from the upstream default, I see no reason why we
> should follow upstream by restricting the
> choice of the user.
And make a package for firefox-esr[1]? It could maintain the ALSA support
and plugins support.
[1]: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/
2017-03-07 16:14 GMT+01:00 jjgaris via arch-general <
arch-general@archlinux.org>:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 04:00:18PM +0100, Carlchristian Ec
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 04:00:18PM +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote:
> As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio emulation
> for ALSA. Some time ago, I used it successfully to run Skype (which also
> depends on pulseaudio) without having pulseaudio installed.
>
I was just
As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio
emulation for ALSA. Some time ago, I used it successfully to run Skype
(which also depends on pulseaudio) without having pulseaudio installed.
Am 07.03.2017 um 10:49 schrieb SanskritFritz via arch-general:
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 14:09:16 +0100, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
>One solution I could think of is an alternative firefox package (not
>in AUR) that still allows users to make their own choice. Would that
>be a possibility?
Hi,
I build with
[rocketmouse@archlinux firefox]$ grep enable-alsa PKG
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 01:58:15PM +0100, Damjan Georgievski via arch-general
wrote:
> > Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken.
>
> nope, it works fine.
>
> alas, ALSA support in Firefox has become unmaintained …
> this means if Arch reverts to ALSA it'll be shipping w
On 07/03/17 23:09, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
> One solution I could think of is an alternative firefox package (not in AUR)
> that still allows users to make their own
> choice. Would that be a possibility?
No.
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 12:48:59PM +0100, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote:
> On 2017-03-07 10:26, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 07:00:12PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
> >> On 07/03/17 18:29, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
> >>> Since the update to firefox 52 the audio suppo
> Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken.
nope, it works fine.
alas, ALSA support in Firefox has become unmaintained …
this means if Arch reverts to ALSA it'll be shipping worse code just
for the few people that choose to not use Pulseaudio (for their own
reasons).
> Th
On 03/07/17 at 12:15pm, LoneVVolf wrote:
> if we really want to follow firefox upstream, we should :
> - stop replacing the libraries upstream bundles with system libs,
> - disable gold linker
> - disable pie
> - disable rust support
>
> etc.
>
> We don't follow upstream firefox now, do you have
On 2017-03-07 10:26, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 07:00:12PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
>> On 07/03/17 18:29, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
>>> Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken.
>>> This seems to be because pulse audio is now a dependenc
On 07-03-17 10:00, Allan McRae wrote:
Upstream changed to pulseaudio by default. Arch follows upstream
You can compile firefox yourself to set it being alsa only.
A
Allan,
if we really want to follow firefox upstream, we should :
- stop replacing the libraries upstream bundles with syste
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:26:55 +0100, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
>Building firefox takes hours making this not really an option for many
>users.
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:49:25 +0100, SanskritFritz via arch-general wrote:
>Does a kind soul provide an alternative build of Firefox?
Assuming time shou
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:26 AM, jjgaris via arch-general <
arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 07:00:12PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
> > On 07/03/17 18:29, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
> > > Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken.
> > > This se
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 07:00:12PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
> On 07/03/17 18:29, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
> > Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken.
> > This seems to be because pulse audio is now a dependency by default in
> > firefox.
> > However firefox can st
On 07/03/17 18:29, jjgaris via arch-general wrote:
> Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken.
> This seems to be because pulse audio is now a dependency by default in
> firefox.
> However firefox can still be build with ALSA support.
>
> Without getting into any dicussion
Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken.
This seems to be because pulse audio is now a dependency by default in firefox.
However firefox can still be build with ALSA support.
Without getting into any dicussion about issues about pulseaudio itself, I
believe it should be p
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