Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-03 Thread 魏銘廷
For people still care about this issue, I made a reply in a related issue of django-countries here: https://bitbucket.org/smileychris/django-countries/issue/16/capitalization-and-diacritics-in-some It is actually a fork of the original long-and-unmaintained project at google code, and is versioned

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-02 Thread Damjan
I didn't mean to imply that this was a simple problem to solve (and I agree with your aim for what that's worth). Simply that we do not want to make political decisions at all. I didn't want to get into this discussion, but I've seen this claim made several times. Siding with UN (or any other p

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-02 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/07/12 18:20, Loui Chang wrote: > On Mon 02 Jul 2012 19:28 +1200, Jason Ryan wrote: >> On 02/07/12 at 07:20am, Zero Cho wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for your support. You're right. This is not intended to be a >>> political debate, so I have been using a neutral word, Taiwan, rather than >>> other mo

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-02 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-02 04:20:57 -0400] Loui Chang: > An alternative has already been suggested. There's no reason we need to > keep coming back to ISO/UN. I'm not sure what the issue is anymore and > why this can't be fixed. This is silly. Exactly. Why did nobody submit a patch to ArchWeb [1] implementing th

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-02 Thread Loui Chang
On Mon 02 Jul 2012 19:28 +1200, Jason Ryan wrote: > On 02/07/12 at 07:20am, Zero Cho wrote: > > > > Thanks for your support. You're right. This is not intended to be a > > political debate, so I have been using a neutral word, Taiwan, rather than > > other more official but sensitive, less common

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-02 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 02.07.2012 01:47, schrieb Tom Gundersen: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Loui Chang wrote: >> But as has been suggested maybe Arch should choose a different upstream >> for this kind of information. Please open your mind a little, a false >> standard is no standard at all. > > I had a look a

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-02 Thread anti
ple do fork to provide a better version. > > Dear all ArchLinux developers, please think it through again. Thanks. If > possible, use Devon's suggestion. > > -- > *From:* "Devon Sawatzky" > *To:* "General Discussion about Arch Linux&

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-02 Thread Jason Ryan
On 02/07/12 at 07:20am, Zero Cho wrote: > > Thanks for your support. You're right. This is not intended to be a > political debate, so I have been using a neutral word, Taiwan, rather than > other more official but sensitive, less common name. It's the fact that ISO > is not reflecting how most of

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-02 Thread Zero Cho
If possible, use Devon's suggestion. -- *From:* "Devon Sawatzky" *To:* "General Discussion about Arch Linux" *Sent:* July 2, 2012 1:26 PM *Subject:* Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues As Gaetan pointed out, it is not the job o

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Devon Sawatzky
As Gaetan pointed out, it is not the job of Linux distribution maintainers to decide country names. But it seems to me this whole issue is not really about deciding what to name a country as that decision has already been made by many. The fact is simply that the data being used does not accurately

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-02 12:33:17 +0800] albertsong: > But please kindly put yourself in our shoes, what would you feel when you > try to download iso image of ArchLInux, > and find out the name of you're country has ", Province of China" fallowed > by it? Thanks but I already understand the issue. Honestly,

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Hills wrote: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >> I have found a solution. All mirrors in countries with disputed names >> are just removed from the official mirrorlist. > > I believe servers south of the Mason-Dixon line should be liste

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread albertsong
I could totally understand that you think this is none of your business. But please kindly put yourself in our shoes, what would you feel when you try to download iso image of ArchLInux, and find out the name of you're country has ", Province of China" fallowed by it? You know there's no offense, i

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-02 10:52:27 +0800] Zero, Chien-An Cho: > That being said, let's continue to have a constructive conversation. :) No. This is a Linux distribution; deciding what countries should be called is just not what we do. Our website uses the django country list; please direct any complaints there.

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Zero, Chien-An Cho
Well... Given the action taken by some developers in this thread, I can't imagine what will happen if we take this issue to the maintainer privately. I understand there is no insult intention by everyine, but by using that word, it IS offending. I am not asking everyone to be educated about our h

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 15:49:46 -0400 Loui Chang wrote: > On Sun 01 Jul 2012 21:23 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > > > On Sun 01 Jul 2012 23:08 +0800, Zero, Chien-An Cho wrote: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> First of all, I am sorry to bring political

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread 魏銘廷
I am the reporter of FS#30444, and I've filed and patched a bug of a little project with the identical problem: If you are using iso-codes from extra repo, there is a common name of “Taiwan, Province of China” which is named “Taiwan”. And by using that, “Taiwan, Province of China” and “Venezuela, B

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread BlissSam
user. Sam > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:52:07 +1000 > From: al...@archlinux.org > To: arch-general@archlinux.org > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues > > On 02/07/12 10:51, Andrew Hills wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 1

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/07/12 10:51, Andrew Hills wrote: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >> I have found a solution. All mirrors in countries with disputed names >> are just removed from the official mirrorlist. > > I believe servers south of the Mason-Dixon line should be listed under > the

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Andrew Hills
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > I have found a solution. All mirrors in countries with disputed names > are just removed from the official mirrorlist. I believe servers south of the Mason-Dixon line should be listed under the country name "Confederate States of America". Un

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/07/12 09:47, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Loui Chang wrote: >> Gimme a break. These kind of political issues aren't solved by "taking >> it upstream". Since when are politicians or people under the influence >> of politics known for their outstanding adherence to lo

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > Gimme a break. These kind of political issues aren't solved by "taking > it upstream". Since when are politicians or people under the influence > of politics known for their outstanding adherence to logic and reason? > It's not such a simple tech

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/07/12 05:49, Loui Chang wrote: > On Sun 01 Jul 2012 21:23 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Loui Chang wrote: >>> On Sun 01 Jul 2012 23:08 +0800, Zero, Chien-An Cho wrote: Hello, First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have >>

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Loui Chang
On Sun 01 Jul 2012 21:23 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > > On Sun 01 Jul 2012 23:08 +0800, Zero, Chien-An Cho wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have > >> been using ArchLinux for years, deplo

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > On Sun 01 Jul 2012 23:08 +0800, Zero, Chien-An Cho wrote: >> Hello, >> >> First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have >> been using ArchLinux for years, deployed on many servers, though I'm >> not joining the community unti

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Loui Chang
On Sun 01 Jul 2012 23:08 +0800, Zero, Chien-An Cho wrote: > Hello, > > First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have > been using ArchLinux for years, deployed on many servers, though I'm > not joining the community until now. The recent changes to the > ArchLinux webpages (ex

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread 逸冰欧阳
#x27;Taiwan' in the past > years) > > The fact is we don't want to talk a lot about political issues, but > changing its name to Taiwan is a good idea. > > > Sam > > > -------- > > From: itsz...@gmail.com > >

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread BlissSam
> From: itsz...@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 23:08:07 +0800 > To: arch-general@archlinux.org > Subject: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues > > Hello, > > First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have > be

[arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Zero, Chien-An Cho
Hello, First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have been using ArchLinux for years, deployed on many servers, though I'm not joining the community until now. The recent changes to the ArchLinux webpages (ex. Downloads, Mirror Status) is really offending Taiwanese people. I wo