Ahh, I thought so. It was only forked yesterday, so there is not much to
be expected in terms of changes right now. But going by the number of
veterans and others who have commented on it, I thought that it is
possible that this is legit. Also, the guys there are talking like they
are the one g
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Jayesh Badwaik
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Apparently, Gentoo has recently forked udev. [1] I am not completely
> sure since the main poster is a n00b according to the gentoo forum
> ratings, but rest of the discussions seems legit.
Actually, a guy forked it and announced it
Hi,
Apparently, Gentoo has recently forked udev. [1] I am not completely
sure since the main poster is a n00b according to the gentoo forum
ratings, but rest of the discussions seems legit.
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> I'm pretty sure at least Ubuntu will keep patches to make some of such
> apps work without systemd. I can maintain these in community if that
> time comes. But I can care about KDE only, making GNOME work without
> systemd would be a too difficult (I don't use it and they are much
> more likely t
> at some point other packages are
> likely to depend on you booting with systemd (NetworkManager, polkit,
> Gnome, etc.).
Do you mean the packages compiled for Arch with systemd enabled
options like firefoxes with dbus? I don't see these packages removing
more than half their userbase and I don't
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> "[...]its communication channels should be installed before the daemon is
> started up [...]"
This is the point. If a daemon has been customized for systemd (which
some have, and hopefully more will), then it will expect systemd to
s
On 28 August 2012 11:05, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky
> wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure at least Ubuntu will keep patches to make some of such
>> apps work without systemd.
>
> So far we see that whenever systemd is made optional, it is optional
> at compile
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:
> I'm pretty sure at least Ubuntu will keep patches to make some of such
> apps work without systemd.
So far we see that whenever systemd is made optional, it is optional
at compile-time rather than at run-time (which would have been ideal,
On 27 August 2012 18:16, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Lukas Jirkovsky
> wrote:
>> I can help (or at least try to) with support for initscripts
>
> Anyone who wants to help, please join arch-proje...@archlinux.org,
> review patches, use initscripts from git/testing and
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Guus Snijders wrote:
> Op 28 aug. 2012 10:06 schreef "Tom Gundersen" het volgende:
>> If that works, it would be great. However, I'm very skeptical. I don't
>> see how this could possibly work for services of type other than
>> "forking" (i.e., how to simulate so
Op 28 aug. 2012 10:06 schreef "Tom Gundersen" het volgende:
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht
wrote:
> > Notice that debian is working on a tool to automagically convert unit
> > systemd files into initscripts.
> >
> > https://github.com/akhilvij/systemd-to-sysvinit-converte
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> Notice that debian is working on a tool to automagically convert unit
> systemd files into initscripts.
>
> https://github.com/akhilvij/systemd-to-sysvinit-converter
If that works, it would be great. However, I'm very skeptical. I don't
On Monday 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :(
I use KDE regularly. It works perfectly fine with/without pulseaudio.
(Actually since archlinux does not install pulseaudio by default, I did
not notice it was not installed for a l
Thomas Bächler wrote:
> > Please support our traditional initscripts as long as possible, as I for
> > one really don't look forwards to systemd, at least not at this point
> > in time. Reasons excluded to avoid yet another flamefest...:(
>
> If you search the archives, you will notice that longe
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:
> I can help (or at least try to) with support for initscripts
Anyone who wants to help, please join arch-proje...@archlinux.org,
review patches, use initscripts from git/testing and report problems.
> if it's
> going to be a burden for you
On 27 August 2012 10:40, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> On Aug 27, 2012 10:32 AM, "Joakim Hernberg" wrote:
>> Please support our traditional initscripts as long as possible,
>
> I will. I just don't know how long that will be, so people should prepare
> to move.
>
> Tom
I can help (or at least try to) w
On 27/08/2012 9:39 AM, Heiko Baums wrote:
Am Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 +0200
schrieb Joakim Hernberg :
I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :(
Try Xfce. ;-)
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/consolekit/ would suggest
that xfce is not safe in this regard. lxde is
Am Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 +0200
schrieb Joakim Hernberg :
> I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :(
Try Xfce. ;-)
Heiko
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But this only concerns the booting itself. As consolekit is
unmaintained, polkit will soon depend on systemd. The next Gnome version
will require systemd - more to come
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Isn't it possible to start systemd daemon-like i
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:48:32 +0200
Thomas Bächler wrote:
> But this only concerns the booting itself. As consolekit is
> unmaintained, polkit will soon depend on systemd. The next Gnome
> version will require systemd - more to come.
I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :(
> Th
Am 27.08.2012 10:32, schrieb Joakim Hernberg:
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:48:48 +0200
> Tom Gundersen wrote:
>
>> Since the above quoted statement was made, a decision was taken to
>> move to systemd by default, so it clearly no longer applies. While you
>> are still free to use initscripts, at some
On Aug 27, 2012 10:32 AM, "Joakim Hernberg" wrote:
> Please support our traditional initscripts as long as possible,
I will. I just don't know how long that will be, so people should prepare
to move.
Tom
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:48:48 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
> Since the above quoted statement was made, a decision was taken to
> move to systemd by default, so it clearly no longer applies. While you
> are still free to use initscripts, at some point other packages are
> likely to depend on you boo
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Heiko Baums wrote:
> "Nobody is forcing systemd on anybody."
>
> Wasn't it this what was always said by the devs in all those long
> threads about systemd? And what are you doing now? Isn't this not
> forcing it on everybody?
No one were forcing systemd on anybody
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Geert Hendrickx wrote:
> A systemd upgrade question (not related to this particular update),
> do you generally need to reboot when systemd is upgraded?
In general, it is probably a good idea to reboot after upgrading
low-level packages. In the case of systemd, it
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 17:15:39 -0400, Dave Reisner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed on
> IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough
> audience. Some of you have probably already noticed that systemd 189 now
> provides,
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 08:24:21AM +0200, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
> Heiko Baums wrote:
>
> Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400
> schrieb Dave Reisner :
>
> > I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed
> > on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide e
Heiko Baums wrote:
Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400
schrieb Dave Reisner :
> I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed
> on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough
> audience. Some of you have probably already noticed that systemd 189
> now
Op maandag 27 augustus 2012 07:59:52 schreef Heiko Baums:
> Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400
>
> schrieb Dave Reisner :
> > I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed
> > on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough
> > audience. Some of you hav
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 07:59:52AM +0200, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400
> schrieb Dave Reisner :
>
> > I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed
> > on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough
> > audience. Some of you
Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400
schrieb Dave Reisner :
> I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed
> on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough
> audience. Some of you have probably already noticed that systemd 189
> now provides, conflicts,
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