Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 08:31:21 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: >On 08/03/17 08:14, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >> On 03/07/2017 05:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> I confirm that apulse-git works with Firefox 52.0-1 and an asoundrc >>> isn't required :). >> >> Keep in mind that firefox 52.0-2 us

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Allan McRae
On 08/03/17 08:14, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > On 03/07/2017 05:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:18:19 +0100, LoneVVolf wrote: >>> On 07-03-17 21:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:00:18 +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote: > As a workaround, have y

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/07/2017 05:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:18:19 +0100, LoneVVolf wrote: >> On 07-03-17 21:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:00:18 +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote: As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio emulation for A

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:18:19 +0100, LoneVVolf wrote: >On 07-03-17 21:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:00:18 +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote: >>> As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio >>> emulation for ALSA. Some time ago, I used it successfully to run >

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread LoneVVolf
On 07-03-17 21:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:00:18 +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote: As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio emulation for ALSA. Some time ago, I used it successfully to run Skype (which also depends on pulseaudio) without having pulseaud

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:00:18 +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote: >As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio >emulation for ALSA. Some time ago, I used it successfully to run Skype >(which also depends on pulseaudio) without having pulseaudio installed. I don't know, if the r

Re: [arch-general] Arch Nim package

2017-03-07 Thread Peter Munch-Ellingsen
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Doug Newgard wrote: > On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 13:05:46 -0500 > Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > > > On 03/07/2017 12:01 PM, Leonidas Spyropoulos via arch-general wrote: > > > On 07/03/17, Peter Munch-Ellingsen wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> the Nim package: https://www

Re: [arch-general] Arch Nim package

2017-03-07 Thread Doug Newgard
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 13:05:46 -0500 Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > On 03/07/2017 12:01 PM, Leonidas Spyropoulos via arch-general wrote: > > On 07/03/17, Peter Munch-Ellingsen wrote: > >> Hi, > >> the Nim package: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/nim/ > >> was marked out

Re: [arch-general] Arch Nim package

2017-03-07 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/07/2017 12:01 PM, Leonidas Spyropoulos via arch-general wrote: > On 07/03/17, Peter Munch-Ellingsen wrote: >> Hi, >> the Nim package: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/nim/ >> was marked out of date on 2016-10-24 but it's still not edited to reflect >> the new version of 0.1

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Christian Rebischke
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 05:32:30PM +0100, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: > So what? Is linux now about restricting user choice? > While I generally agree with the referenced text, using it to justify > restricting user chouce without reason is just > nonsence. The way it is used, it is also one

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Maxwell Anselm via arch-general
> > So what? Is linux now about restricting user choice? > Arch is a pragmatic distribution, both for the users and developers. Upstream decided to make pulseaudio a hard dependency specifically to reduce maintenance costs on their end. Arch devs really aren't in the business of adopting such main

Re: [arch-general] Arch Nim package

2017-03-07 Thread Leonidas Spyropoulos via arch-general
On 07/03/17, Peter Munch-Ellingsen wrote: > Hi, > the Nim package: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/nim/ > was marked out of date on 2016-10-24 but it's still not edited to reflect > the new version of 0.16.2. Would anyone be so kind to adopt this package? > If not could the pack

Re: [arch-general] Arch Nim package

2017-03-07 Thread Peter Munch-Ellingsen
Hi, the Nim package: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/nim/ was marked out of date on 2016-10-24 but it's still not edited to reflect the new version of 0.16.2. Would anyone be so kind to adopt this package? If not could the package be dropped to AUR? Peter

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread jjgaris via arch-general
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 05:23:42PM +0100, Christian Rebischke wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:26:55AM +0100, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: > > Building firefox takes hours making this not really an option for many > > users. > > Arch has deviated before from the upstream default, I see no re

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Christian Rebischke
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:26:55AM +0100, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: > Building firefox takes hours making this not really an option for many users. > Arch has deviated before from the upstream default, I see no reason why we > should follow upstream by restricting the > choice of the user.

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Óscar García Amor
And make a package for firefox-esr[1]? It could maintain the ALSA support and plugins support. [1]: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ 2017-03-07 16:14 GMT+01:00 jjgaris via arch-general < arch-general@archlinux.org>: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 04:00:18PM +0100, Carlchristian Ec

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread jjgaris via arch-general
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 04:00:18PM +0100, Carlchristian Eckert wrote: > As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio emulation > for ALSA. Some time ago, I used it successfully to run Skype (which also > depends on pulseaudio) without having pulseaudio installed. > I was just

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Carlchristian Eckert
As a workaround, have you tried using apulse? It is a pulseaudio emulation for ALSA. Some time ago, I used it successfully to run Skype (which also depends on pulseaudio) without having pulseaudio installed. Am 07.03.2017 um 10:49 schrieb SanskritFritz via arch-general: On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 14:09:16 +0100, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: >One solution I could think of is an alternative firefox package (not >in AUR) that still allows users to make their own choice. Would that >be a possibility? Hi, I build with [rocketmouse@archlinux firefox]$ grep enable-alsa PKG

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread jjgaris via arch-general
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 01:58:15PM +0100, Damjan Georgievski via arch-general wrote: > > Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken. > > nope, it works fine. > > alas, ALSA support in Firefox has become unmaintained … > this means if Arch reverts to ALSA it'll be shipping w

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Allan McRae
On 07/03/17 23:09, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: > One solution I could think of is an alternative firefox package (not in AUR) > that still allows users to make their own > choice. Would that be a possibility? No.

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread jjgaris via arch-general
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 12:48:59PM +0100, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: > On 2017-03-07 10:26, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 07:00:12PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > >> On 07/03/17 18:29, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: > >>> Since the update to firefox 52 the audio suppo

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Damjan Georgievski via arch-general
> Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken. nope, it works fine. alas, ALSA support in Firefox has become unmaintained … this means if Arch reverts to ALSA it'll be shipping worse code just for the few people that choose to not use Pulseaudio (for their own reasons). > Th

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 03/07/17 at 12:15pm, LoneVVolf wrote: > if we really want to follow firefox upstream, we should : > - stop replacing the libraries upstream bundles with system libs, > - disable gold linker > - disable pie > - disable rust support > > etc. > > We don't follow upstream firefox now, do you have

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Bartłomiej Piotrowski
On 2017-03-07 10:26, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 07:00:12PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: >> On 07/03/17 18:29, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: >>> Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken. >>> This seems to be because pulse audio is now a dependenc

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread LoneVVolf
On 07-03-17 10:00, Allan McRae wrote: Upstream changed to pulseaudio by default. Arch follows upstream You can compile firefox yourself to set it being alsa only. A Allan, if we really want to follow firefox upstream, we should : - stop replacing the libraries upstream bundles with syste

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:26:55 +0100, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: >Building firefox takes hours making this not really an option for many >users. On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:49:25 +0100, SanskritFritz via arch-general wrote: >Does a kind soul provide an alternative build of Firefox? Assuming time shou

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] AUR ToS (aka making AUR user names public)

2017-03-07 Thread Martin Kühne via arch-general
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:36 AM, fnodeuser wrote: > test This worked. Thanks for your effort. cheers! mar77i

[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] AUR ToS (aka making AUR user names public)

2017-03-07 Thread fnodeuser
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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] AUR ToS (aka making AUR user names public)

2017-03-07 Thread Bennett Piater
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[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] AUR ToS (aka making AUR user names public)

2017-03-07 Thread fnodeuser
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Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread SanskritFritz via arch-general
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:26 AM, jjgaris via arch-general < arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 07:00:12PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > > On 07/03/17 18:29, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: > > > Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken. > > > This se

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] AUR ToS (aka making AUR user names public)

2017-03-07 Thread YANG Ling via arch-general
fnodeuser writes: > Bartłomiej Piotrowski, > > it is the same email address that i have been using since the beginning. > > what opinions? > > i never talk with opinions. i always talk with facts. Hi. You may not notice your current reply function broke this thread. What is your mail client? I b

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread jjgaris via arch-general
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 07:00:12PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > On 07/03/17 18:29, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: > > Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken. > > This seems to be because pulse audio is now a dependency by default in > > firefox. > > However firefox can st

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] AUR ToS (aka making AUR user names public)

2017-03-07 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 03/07/17 at 10:03am, fnodeuser wrote: > Bartłomiej Piotrowski, > > it is the same email address that i have been using since the beginning. > > what opinions? > > i never talk with opinions. i always talk with facts. You broke the thread again. If you want to be taken serious atleast rep

[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] AUR ToS (aka making AUR user names public)

2017-03-07 Thread fnodeuser
Bartłomiej Piotrowski, it is the same email address that i have been using since the beginning. what opinions? i never talk with opinions. i always talk with facts.

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread Allan McRae
On 07/03/17 18:29, jjgaris via arch-general wrote: > Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken. > This seems to be because pulse audio is now a dependency by default in > firefox. > However firefox can still be build with ALSA support. > > Without getting into any dicussion

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] AUR ToS (aka making AUR user names public)

2017-03-07 Thread Bartłomiej Piotrowski
On 2017-03-07 09:36, fnodeuser wrote: > why are you talking on her behalf? why did she send a message to you instead > of one to the ML? > why is she not answering any questions in this ML? Why do you keep breaking threads on our mailing lists? Why you are incapable of using one e-mail address? W

[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] AUR ToS (aka making AUR user names public)

2017-03-07 Thread fnodeuser
Eli Schwartz, no one is paranoid here. we do not want security and privacy issues. YANG Ling, sharing the requested data will not benefit us in any way. Lukas Fleischer, why are you talking on her behalf? why did she send a message to you instead of one to the ML? why is she not answering any

[arch-general] Firefox 52 Audio broken

2017-03-07 Thread jjgaris via arch-general
Since the update to firefox 52 the audio support has been broken. This seems to be because pulse audio is now a dependency by default in firefox. However firefox can still be build with ALSA support. Without getting into any dicussion about issues about pulseaudio itself, I believe it should be p