Re: [arch-general] migrating crypttab to new way / luks swap problem

2012-07-31 Thread Aurko Roy
If you do man crypttab, there's an example for swap at the bottom. It is swap /dev/sda7 /dev/urandom swap HTH On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > I am fully up to date on testing repo. I have a laptop with encrypted > /home and swap. Both are luks. When I convert /etc

[arch-general] chromium crash when print dialog is invoked

2012-07-31 Thread Scott Weisman
I started experiencing a severe problem with Chromium recently that makes web browsing a very tedious experience. It took a while to narrow it down, but it seems that whenever the print dialog is invoked, either manually (eg ctrl-P on the keyboard) or by a page when clicking on the "printer friend

[arch-general] migrating crypttab to new way / luks swap problem

2012-07-31 Thread Genes MailLists
I am fully up to date on testing repo. I have a laptop with encrypted /home and swap. Both are luks. When I convert /etc/cryptab /home works fine but swap fails at boot time with Unlocking of swap failed. Legacy /etc/cryptab (works but get legacy warnings) home /dev/sda5

Re: [arch-general] Quick btrfs-root question

2012-07-31 Thread Zhengyu Xu
On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 21:50 -0400, Jameson wrote: > I apologize if I've missed it somewhere, but does grub support booting > from a multi-device btrfs root sub-volume without a separate /boot? > According to the wiki I think it's supposed to work, but when I chroot > to that root, and run grub-inst

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Kyle
According to Tom Gundersen: #Also, usind syslinux rather than grub is usually much simpler #(assuming you don't require some feature that is only required by #grub. Thanks Tom for suggesting syslinux. I now have a bootable system using syslinux, an ext2 /boot partition and BTRFS on the rest of

[arch-general] Quick btrfs-root question

2012-07-31 Thread Jameson
I apologize if I've missed it somewhere, but does grub support booting from a multi-device btrfs root sub-volume without a separate /boot? According to the wiki I think it's supposed to work, but when I chroot to that root, and run grub-install, it returns: Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Leonardo Dagnino
For what I understood, messing with the initcpio won't change anything, because GRUB doesn't even get to load it. Leonardo Dagnino 2012/7/31 Kyle > > > According to Tom Gundersen: > #On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> > #wrote: > #> why isn't it necessary? is

Re: [arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread brainworker
> Thunar doesn't use LC_COLLATE, it has its own sorting algorithms, which > had some bugs with Latin characters in the past. So this is an upstream > issue which should be reported to the Thunar devs. I wrote about it in thunar mailing list. Nobody replied.

Re: [arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread brainworker
> @Ray, he said it used to work before upgrading thunar, so I suspect it's > not a problem with his locale config. That's right. In another message I already said that. Everything was OK, until "update" came from repo.

Re: [arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread brainworker
> You may have more chance directly looking with the thunar-dev application > mailing list instead of Archlinux, which is an operating system. I wrote there already long time ago. No reply. Ignoring... By the way,.. I saw that people here discuss not only OS, but their problems with other applica

Re: [arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread brainworker
> You might check if "ls" sorts in this same odd fashion. It might be a > locale setting - if LC_COLLATE is set to your actual locale, it text > will be sorted as if were natural language (i.e., prose), rather than > sorting in the usual "technical" manner. This means that some kinds of > character

Re: [arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:13:24 -0400 schrieb Ray Kohler : > You might check if "ls" sorts in this same odd fashion. It might be a > locale setting - if LC_COLLATE is set to your actual locale, it text > will be sorted as if were natural language (i.e., prose), rather than > sorting in the usual "tec

Re: [arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread Alex Belanger
@Ray, he said it used to work before upgrading thunar, so I suspect it's not a problem with his locale config. On Jul 31, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:18 PM, wrote: >> Hello, folks, once again. >> >> Maybe somebody of you encountered with that problem in

Re: [arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread Alex Belanger
You may have more chance directly looking with the thunar-dev application mailing list instead of Archlinux, which is an operating system. On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:18 PM, brainwor...@lavabit.com wrote: > Hello, folks, once again. > > Maybe somebody of you encountered with that problem in thunar. >

Re: [arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread Ray Kohler
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:18 PM, wrote: > Hello, folks, once again. > > Maybe somebody of you encountered with that problem in thunar. > ...especially if you use cyrillic letters in file and directory names. > > So, I have installed the latest version of thunar (1.4.0), and it > incorrectly sorts

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Kyle
According to Tom Gundersen: #On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> #wrote: #> why isn't it necessary? is it loaded by default? because udev isn't #> running... # #btrfs, like all the other fs modules, should be loaded on-demand when #"mount" is called. Additionall

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Kyle
According to Tom Gundersen: #Kyle: a btrfs module (in rc.conf or otherwise) should not be necessary. I didn't think so, since I added btrfs to my HOOKS array in /etc/initcpio.conf right after filesystems, although that may not be necessary either. Better safe than sorry. #In my experience, li

Re: [arch-general] 11 minutes mode

2012-07-31 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> Anybody knows how to make sure that the kernel will not mess with the >> hardware >> clock every 11 minutes? The proper way would be to use a kernel that >> doesn't >> try to do it,

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > why isn't it necessary? is it loaded by default? because udev isn't > running... btrfs, like all the other fs modules, should be loaded on-demand when "mount" is called. -t

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
+1 for the ext2 boot partition why isn't it necessary? is it loaded by default? because udev isn't running... On Aug 1, 2012 1:25 AM, "Tom Gundersen" wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I'm sorry Kyle for screwing your topic... > > well, I

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm sorry Kyle for screwing your topic... > well, I think that you need an ext boot partition. > then, try to add the btrfs to modprobe.d (I don't remember exactly how...) > or to rc.conf (if using init scripts and not

[arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

2012-07-31 Thread brainworker
Hello, folks, once again. Maybe somebody of you encountered with that problem in thunar. ...especially if you use cyrillic letters in file and directory names. So, I have installed the latest version of thunar (1.4.0), and it incorrectly sorts contents of my folders. I can not even understand the

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
:-) nothing more to say (well the real challenge it to also have your hands tied on your back :-P ) um, well, grub in my opinion is pretty unstable... it's like a woman you never know! I always try to install grub in my arch installations, but sometimes it "just fails"! so, syslinux could be an op

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Kyle
According to "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας": #PS: WOW man, how can you even install Arch by being visually #impaired??? #You must be GENIUS Lol I use Chris Brannon's Talking Arch install media. http://the-brannons.com/tarch I stand on the shoulders of giants. :) #PS2: I'm not trying to say ANYTHING bad

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
PS2: I'm not trying to say ANYTHING bad about you and I'm sorry, if I offended you, I just think that it's very difficult... On Aug 1, 2012 12:47 AM, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > PS: WOW man, how can you even install Arch by being visually impaired??? > You must be GENIUS >

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
PS: WOW man, how can you even install Arch by being visually impaired??? You must be GENIUS On Aug 1, 2012 12:43 AM, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm sorry Kyle for screwing your topic... > well, I think that you need an ext boot partition. > then, try to add the btrfs to mo

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
I'm sorry Kyle for screwing your topic... well, I think that you need an ext boot partition. then, try to add the btrfs to modprobe.d (I don't remember exactly how...) or to rc.conf (if using init scripts and not systemd) by adding "btrfs" to the MODULES array On Aug 1, 2012 12:38 AM, "Kyle" wrote

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Kyle
More information about my initial problem: I was able to take a picture of part of my screen using my phone, and Google is telling me that GRUB is loading into rescue mode with an error that says something about "unknown filesystem." Sorry, I can't get much more detailed than that, because the t

Re: [arch-general] 11 minutes mode

2012-07-31 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > Anybody knows how to make sure that the kernel will not mess with the > hardware > clock every 11 minutes? The proper way would be to use a kernel that > doesn't > try to do it, but I want to use Arch's standard kernel, which has > CONFIG_GE

Re: [arch-general] 11 minutes mode

2012-07-31 Thread Uli Armbruster
* Myra Nelson [31.07.2012 18:43]: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >>> Anybody knows how to make sure that the kernel will not mess with the > >>> hard

Re: [arch-general] 11 minutes mode

2012-07-31 Thread Myra Nelson
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: >>> Anybody knows how to make sure that the kernel will not mess with the >>> hardware >>> clock every 11 minutes? The proper w

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-31 Thread Andreas Radke
Wow. I could never imagine such a crazy setup just to get a client printing. It has been now for years possible to get the clients printing with only libcups installed and no daemon needed at on the clients. This is all in our wiki! Again: if you know your server's IP or hostname you don't need t

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-31 Thread Damjan
So I guess that at this stage the definition of the printer using the splix packages on the client laptop fails to work properly for print files sent via dnssd - Files, or better said, print jobs are not sent via dnssd. dnssd is only used for service discovery so that you can avoid setting the

Re: [arch-general] tty0 not available anymore with systemd

2012-07-31 Thread Zhengyu Xu
On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 15:22 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Am 29.07.2012 21:00, schrieb C Anthony Risinger: > >> ... note the extra `system` in the path. do a: > >> [...] > >> ... it looks like you probably tried to manually reli

Re: [arch-general] AUR xaralx no libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

2012-07-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 13:57 +0200, Marek Otahal wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > > Why did you send this here? Its an AUR package, first of all, and > > should be discussed in the comments. Certainly not on arch-general. > thanks, fixed in -7 rel, in aur soon. PLease us

Re: [arch-general] AUR xaralx no libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

2012-07-31 Thread Marek Otahal
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: >> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10896 >> >> $ xaralx >> xaralx: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: >> cannot open shared object file: No such file or di

Re: [arch-general] 11 minutes mode

2012-07-31 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: >> Anybody knows how to make sure that the kernel will not mess with the >> hardware >> clock every 11 minutes? The proper way would be to use a kernel that doesn't >> try to do it, but

Re: [arch-general] 11 minutes mode

2012-07-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > Anybody knows how to make sure that the kernel will not mess with the hardware > clock every 11 minutes? The proper way would be to use a kernel that doesn't > try to do it, but I want to use Arch's standard kernel, which has > CONFIG_GENERIC

[arch-general] 11 minutes mode

2012-07-31 Thread Jorge Almeida
Anybody knows how to make sure that the kernel will not mess with the hardware clock every 11 minutes? The proper way would be to use a kernel that doesn't try to do it, but I want to use Arch's standard kernel, which has CONFIG_GENERIC_CMOS_UPDATE=y. Maybe something in /proc? I don't know whether

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-31 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> >> I have been reading that avahi-daemon needs to be running for printer >> >> discovery to work with the new version of cups > >> > >> > I just hope your kidding!!! >> > >> http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/whatsnew.html > > Thanks >

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-31 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Kevin Chadwick > wrote: >> "Bonjour Support; Bonjour printer sharing and discovery is now also >> supported using Avahi." >> >> Also supported? > > "Also supported" means "you can now use Avahi instead

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-31 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > "Bonjour Support; Bonjour printer sharing and discovery is now also > supported using Avahi." > > Also supported? "Also supported" means "you can now use Avahi instead of Bonjour", as DNS-SD support in previous versions was limited to Mac

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-31 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:40 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:34 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:58 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:50 PM, mike cloaked >>> wrote: >>> > OK I have avahi-daemon running on both client and server

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> >> I have been reading that avahi-daemon needs to be running for printer > >> discovery to work with the new version of cups > > > > I just hope your kidding!!! > > > http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/whatsnew.html Thanks "Bonjour Support; Bonjour printer sharing and discovery is now

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-31 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 30/07/12 23:31, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> I have been reading that avahi-daemon needs to be running for printer >> discovery to work with the new version of cups > > I just hope your kidding!!! > http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/whatsnew.html -- Jelle van der Waa signature.asc Descrip

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
well, I can format to ext4, but it would actually kill my sd On Jul 31, 2012 11:15 AM, "Leonidas Spyropoulos" wrote: > On 31 Jul 2012 01:49, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > yaffs2 would be faster than ext2? > > On Jul 31, 2012 3:21 AM, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com>

[arch-general] Texlive package install

2012-07-31 Thread Arno Gaboury
Dear list, I use Texlive + Texmaker to write some documents. I can't find an easy and solid way to install new packages from CTAN.Package tlmgr from AUR couldn't compil on my box and will not do the job.Installing manually new packages doesn't seem to be a good idea and is not very straightforwar

Re: [arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot

2012-07-31 Thread Leonidas Spyropoulos
On 31 Jul 2012 01:49, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > yaffs2 would be faster than ext2? > On Jul 31, 2012 3:21 AM, "Δημήτρης Ζέρβας" <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > hm... I curently use ext2 and I have installation in a partition of my sd > > card. wich fs would be better than e