Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

For people still care about this issue, I made a reply in a related issue of django-countries here: https://bitbucket.org/smileychris/django-countries/issue/16/capitalization-and-diacritics-in-some It is actually a fork of the original long-and-unmaintained project at google code, and is versioned

Re: [arch-general] Can't suspend or hibernate

That's interesting. In my case when I try and suspend the screen goes blank but the fans and hdds stay running the keyboard lights are still on but accept no input. I then have to do the same and pull the power out. Then it will boot but complains about no hibernate image if I hibernated it. I've r

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: > - linux, linux-lts (diff for linux here: http://paste.xinu.at/LLd/) I'm basing my modifications to my PKGBUILDs on this, simple enough, but a simple observation - ${pkgdir} is used throughout the PKGBUILD except in the diff =) ditto for ${_

Re: [arch-general] MPD volume problems after update -> mpd 0.17-1

[2012-07-03 22:11:18 -0400] Sébastien le Preste de Vauban: > El 03/07/12 21:32, Gaetan Bisson escribió: > >[2012-07-03 21:23:01 -0400] Sébastien le Preste de Vauban: > > > > > > > What's this? > > That's weird, it's one website I recently visited, how come i

Re: [arch-general] MPD volume problems after update -> mpd 0.17-1

El 03/07/12 21:32, Gaetan Bisson escribió: [2012-07-03 21:23:01 -0400] Sébastien le Preste de Vauban: if I attempt to change the volume of the current song being played by mpd (tested with ncmpcpp and sonata), the volume gets muted, no sound can be heard. This did not happen with older version

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 14:18:07 -0400, Dave Reisner wrote: > Worst case scenario, users of custom kernels can: > > - manually move /lib/modules/mycustomkernel to /usr/lib/modules/ until > they can do a proper rebuild. > - boot a stock -ARCH kernel (you DO have it listed as a fallback, > right

Re: [arch-general] MPD volume problems after update -> mpd 0.17-1

[2012-07-03 21:23:01 -0400] Sébastien le Preste de Vauban: > if I attempt to change the volume of the current song being played > by mpd (tested with ncmpcpp and sonata), the volume gets muted, no > sound can be heard. This did not happen with older version of mpd > 0.16.x. I haven't touched my mp

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

[2012-07-04 00:22:25 +0100] Kevin Chadwick: > I think I've been quite clear, similar to negative coding. You haven't, similar to people spreading FUD. Feel free to share your deep knowledge and thorough understanding of NTP with us ignorants by contributing to this neat little project you might h

[arch-general] MPD volume problems after update -> mpd 0.17-1

if I attempt to change the volume of the current song being played by mpd (tested with ncmpcpp and sonata), the volume gets muted, no sound can be heard. This did not happen with older version of mpd 0.16.x. I haven't touched my mpd.conf and mpd.log does not show anything suspicious.

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 00:21 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > I've never seen a system crash even due to a wildly drifting clock There's still the paradox, that using a kernel-rt we get relatively good timing for some apps, while the "real real time" might be completely out of timing (>= 10 seconds).

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> Worst case scenario, users of custom kernels can: >> >> - manually move /lib/modules/mycustomkernel to /usr/lib/modules/ until >> they can do a proper rebuild. >> - boot a stock -ARCH kernel (you DO have it listed as a fallback, >> right

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

> I believe the main reason for ntp in the main is to ensure avoidance of > broken clocks like an old tv system of mine that used to keep good time > has. If you take personal care of your systems it is likely just > unneeded risk. Maybe I should add that if I was Google I would certainly use ntp

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

> Worst case scenario, users of custom kernels can: > > - manually move /lib/modules/mycustomkernel to /usr/lib/modules/ until > they can do a proper rebuild. > - boot a stock -ARCH kernel (you DO have it listed as a fallback, > right?) until they can do a proper rebuild. Wouldn't another op

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

> > Attacker controlled or influenced time is actually more serious than > > you would think for crypto, logging etc., which is why OpenBSD put so > > much effort into it and don't allow the clock to go backwards. > > Are you claiming that the security problem of ntp is that it might cause > tim

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

> On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 17:32:40 +0100 > Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > > > Watches are perfectly acceptable time keepers especially considering I > > have a cheap watch stuffed in a drawer that I was surprised hasn't lost > > seconds in years. RTC: I'm fairly sure many older ones don't even have > >

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 06:42:09AM +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > On Jul 4, 2012 3:38 AM, "Tom Gundersen" wrote: > > > We all know that no one reads the news items, nor dev-public, so I > > think adding an extra warning should save us a few hundred > > mails/forumposts/IRC conversations. > > > > -t >

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

On Jul 4, 2012 3:38 AM, "Tom Gundersen" wrote: > We all know that no one reads the news items, nor dev-public, so I > think adding an extra warning should save us a few hundred > mails/forumposts/IRC conversations. > > -t I see a good opportunity to start pruning the list of users of all the abo

Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

On Jul 3, 2012 7:16 AM, "Karol Babioch" wrote: > After reading the appropriate man page (see [2]), I think the parameter > SUPPORT_URL is not appropriate. It is set to > "https://bbs.archlinux.org/";. Personally I have some sort of a problem > with the fact that only the forums get mentioned as a

Re: [arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

On Jul 3, 2012 3:41 PM, "Sébastien Leblanc" wrote: > > That might be somewhat of an issue as I am running systemd and not the > default initscripts, therefore there is no rc.conf file on my > system... Also, `ps` does not report a syslog process running. > > Running `systemctl start syslog.service

Re: [arch-general] Installing to RAID .. cannot reboot

Guus Snijders said the following at 07/03/2012 01:57 PM : > In the case of fresh install; would it be an option to start over from > scratch? This was a fresh install. My original problem (lack of /dev/md) was due to an ambiguity in the English in the various wiki pages. Once I got past that,

Re: [arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

2012/7/3 Sébastien Leblanc : > That might be somewhat of an issue as I am running systemd and not the > default initscripts, therefore there is no rc.conf file on my > system... Also, `ps` does not report a syslog process running. > > Running `systemctl start syslog.service` responded that the sysl

Re: [arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

Sébastien Leblanc wrote: > I deleted the /var/log/slim.log file, however the filesystem still > reports being full... That is weird. Sure, 27G files aren't a common > occurence. I hope my filesystem is not thrashed. > Have you restarted slim since deleting /var/log/slim.log? If not, the ru

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 22:15 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:14 +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:48:44 +0200 > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 08:40 +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > > > > Is your system of national importance NO do you have

Re: [arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

That might be somewhat of an issue as I am running systemd and not the default initscripts, therefore there is no rc.conf file on my system... Also, `ps` does not report a syslog process running. Running `systemctl start syslog.service` responded that the syslog service could not be found. And th

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:14 +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:48:44 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 08:40 +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > > > Is your system of national importance NO do you have top secret > > > millitary info on your system NO > > > > You're

Re: [arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

Hi Sébastien I have tried it once with SLiM, though the problem was that syslog-ng wasn't placed in DAEMONS in rc.onf... So you could check that. Sébastien Leblanc writes: > Dearest Arch Linux Mailing List, > > So I was installing a few packages on a fairly recent Arch install, > when I got an e

Re: [arch-general] Installing to RAID .. cannot reboot

2012/7/3 D. R. Evans : > Paul Gideon Dann said the following at 07/03/2012 02:35 AM : >> On Monday 02 Jul 2012 13:42:39 D. R. Evans wrote: >>> I have finally reached the point where the various /dev/md devices mount >>> during the reboot >>> >>> Now I get a large number of error messages of the

[arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM

Dearest Arch Linux Mailing List, So I was installing a few packages on a fairly recent Arch install, when I got an error message from pacman: 8<8<8<8< : Retrieving packages from community... error: failed retrieving file '' from : Failed writing body (143

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: > As with any large change, I'll mention on dev-public when this goes to > testing, and there will be an associated news item when it moves to > core. I suggest also adding a post-upgrade message to kmod. Something like: "Kernel modules are now

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:48:44 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 08:40 +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > > Is your system of national importance NO do you have top secret > > millitary info on your system NO > > You're mistaken Pete, > > if we would talk about our orders we would have t

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 17:32:40 +0100 Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > Watches are perfectly acceptable time keepers especially considering I > have a cheap watch stuffed in a drawer that I was surprised hasn't lost > seconds in years. RTC: I'm fairly sure many older ones don't even have > crystals but are

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

On Jul 3, 2012 8:18 PM, "Dave Reisner" wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 07:56:32PM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: > > Op dinsdag 3 juli 2012 11:41:08 schreef Dave Reisner: > > > Hey all, > > > > > > *** If you use a custom kernel, this will affect you. Please read the > > > big scary note at the end

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 07:56:32PM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: > Op dinsdag 3 juli 2012 11:41:08 schreef Dave Reisner: > > Hey all, > > > > *** If you use a custom kernel, this will affect you. Please read the > > big scary note at the end *** > > > > I'm taking today to work on the last roadblock

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal

Op dinsdag 3 juli 2012 11:41:08 schreef Dave Reisner: > Hey all, > > *** If you use a custom kernel, this will affect you. Please read the > big scary note at the end *** > > I'm taking today to work on the last roadblock before Allan can move > glibc out of /lib. This basically consists of a reb

Re: [arch-general] Installing to RAID .. cannot reboot

Paul Gideon Dann said the following at 07/03/2012 02:35 AM : > On Monday 02 Jul 2012 13:42:39 D. R. Evans wrote: >> I have finally reached the point where the various /dev/md devices mount >> during the reboot >> >> Now I get a large number of error messages of the form: >> init: failed to cr

Re: [arch-general] initscripts 20120631 and BTRFS

On Jul 3, 2012 7:37 PM, "arnaud gaboury" wrote: > > Sorry for the wrong subject. I had an error at boot, same as the one > described. I remember adding settings about checking LVM2 at boot when I > set up my LVM group. Currently traveling, so can'r give you more details, > but I guess new iniscrip

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Jul 3, 2012 6:33 PM, "Kevin Chadwick" wrote: > > > Watches are perfectly acceptable time keepers especially considering I > have a cheap watch stuffed in a drawer that I was surprised hasn't lost > seconds in years. RTC: I'm fairly sure many older ones don't even have > crystals but are probabl

Re: [arch-general] initscripts 20120631 and BTRFS

Sorry for the wrong subject. I had an error at boot, same as the one described. I remember adding settings about checking LVM2 at boot when I set up my LVM group. Currently traveling, so can'r give you more details, but I guess new iniscript broke something with LVM. Regards Sent from my Galax

Re: [arch-general] initscripts 20120631 and BTRFS

Sent from my Galaxy S2 running Cyanogenmod 9 Come and chat on Googletalk On Jul 3, 2012 7:06 PM, "Tom Gundersen" wrote: > > On Jul 3, 2012 4:36 PM, "Arno Gaboury" wrote: > > > > Dear list, > > > > I refer to this bug report: > > > >> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30517 > > > > > > I hav

Re: [arch-general] initscripts 20120631 and BTRFS

On Jul 3, 2012 4:36 PM, "Arno Gaboury" wrote: > > Dear list, > > I refer to this bug report: > >> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30517 > > > I have exactly the same situation at boot, and this didn't happend before. The bug report is about lvm, and your email appears to be about btrfs... Seems s

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 08:40 +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > Is your system of national importance NO do you have top secret > millitary info on your system NO You're mistaken Pete, if we would talk about our orders we would have to kill you ;). Greetings from my Mossad-PC, Ralf # ntpdate ntp.favey.

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

Watches are perfectly acceptable time keepers especially considering I have a cheap watch stuffed in a drawer that I was surprised hasn't lost seconds in years. RTC: I'm fairly sure many older ones don't even have crystals but are probably still good enough, though I have no accurate quantificatio

[arch-general] initscripts 20120631 and BTRFS

Dear list, I refer to this bug report: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30517 I have exactly the same situation at boot, and this didn't happend before. Form my kernel.log: Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373550] INFO: task btrfs-transacti:353 blocked for more than 120 seconds. Ju

Re: [arch-general] Error when upgrading "reflector"

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Wallace wrote: > On Jul 3, 2012 9:51 AM, "Szu-Han Chen" wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 09:28:03AM -0400, Benjamin Boudreau wrote: > > > Just got when doing a pacman -Syu: > > > > > > reflector-2012.7.1-1-any 10.8 KiB 672K/s 00:00 > > > [##

Re: [arch-general] Error when upgrading "reflector"

On Jul 3, 2012 9:51 AM, "Szu-Han Chen" wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 09:28:03AM -0400, Benjamin Boudreau wrote: > > Just got when doing a pacman -Syu: > > > > reflector-2012.7.1-1-any 10.8 KiB 672K/s 00:00 > > [#] 1 > > ... > > (14/14) checking for file conf

Re: [arch-general] Error when upgrading "reflector"

On 03/07/12 15:28, Benjamin Boudreau wrote: > Just got when doing a pacman -Syu: > > reflector-2012.7.1-1-any 10.8 KiB 672K/s 00:00 > [#] 1 > ... > (14/14) checking for file conflicts > [#] 100% > error: failed to commit transaction

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:10:55 +0100 Mauro Santos wrote: > On 03-07-2012 12:07, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > >> it sure isn't for consumer hardware. > > > > They could use better use of crystals in the main like watches but I > > think they are good enough for all except corner cases. One guy on the >

Re: [arch-general] Error when upgrading "reflector"

On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 09:28:03AM -0400, Benjamin Boudreau wrote: > Just got when doing a pacman -Syu: > > reflector-2012.7.1-1-any 10.8 KiB 672K/s 00:00 > [#] 1 > ... > (14/14) checking for file conflicts > [#] 100% > error: failed t

[arch-general] Error when upgrading "reflector"

Just got when doing a pacman -Syu: reflector-2012.7.1-1-any 10.8 KiB 672K/s 00:00 [#] 1 ... (14/14) checking for file conflicts [#] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) reflector: /usr/lib/python3.2/site-package

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On 03-07-2012 12:07, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> it sure isn't for consumer hardware. > > They could use better use of crystals in the main like watches but I > think they are good enough for all except corner cases. One guy on the > android list said research had come out with an average of two sec

Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

Hi, Am 03.07.2012 13:35, schrieb Tom Gundersen: > Why would we want this? I don't know much about it, so if there are > good reasons I'm interested to learn. I don't know much about it either, just stumbled upon it by reading the man page of "/etc/os-release". Looking at the database (see [1]), I

Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

Hi Karol, Thanks for your input. I'm answering to your original email, but I read the whole discussion... On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Karol Babioch wrote: > First of all I'm wondering why HOME_URL is set to the plain HTTP version > of archlinux.org, whereas the other two links are set to the

Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

Hi, Am 03.07.2012 13:08, schrieb Thomas Bächler: > Those are all valid concerns. I don't know why this particular URL was > chosen. > > I guess nobody has put nearly as much thought into this as you did. So you would appreciate it? I certainly can submit a patch for this one ;). > > > > h

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

> it sure isn't for consumer hardware. They could use better use of crystals in the main like watches but I think they are good enough for all except corner cases. One guy on the android list said research had come out with an average of two second slide sqew per week or something rediculous and

Re: [arch-general] compact view removed from Nautilus

On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:26:57 +0200 Olav Vitters wrote: > You have command line tools for gconf as well as dconf: > gconftool-2 > gsettings That's two interfaces that depend on installed binaries and you haven't listed them all yet, not only is the syntax rediculously long compared to for examp

Re: [arch-general] Asked for PIN during pairing of Bluetooth mouse

Hi, just to let you people know, I posted to the gnome-bluetooth mailing list (see [1]). So if you would participate it would probably the better place. Best regards, Karol Babioch [1] http://lists.usefulinc.com/pipermail/gnome-bluetooth/2012-July/001502.html signature.asc Description: Open

Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

Am 03.07.2012 12:51, schrieb Karol Babioch: > Hi, > > Am 03.07.2012 10:28, schrieb Thomas Bächler: >> The bbs and bug tracker are https-only. If you would go to the http >> link, you would be redirected to https. A user cannot login on the main >> website or send any sensitive information to it, s

Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

Hi, Am 03.07.2012 10:28, schrieb Thomas Bächler: > The bbs and bug tracker are https-only. If you would go to the http > link, you would be redirected to https. A user cannot login on the main > website or send any sensitive information to it, so there is no need to > force it to https. Personall

Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

On 3 July 2012 09:28, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 03.07.2012 01:16, schrieb Karol Babioch: >> After reading the appropriate man page (see [2]), I think the parameter >> SUPPORT_URL is not appropriate. It is set to >> "https://bbs.archlinux.org/";. Personally I have some sort of a problem >> with th

Re: [arch-general] CUPS not recognizing the printer

> Not sure if this is related, but after my update this morning I am > getting this message in my CUPS configuration. Searched the web and > only found bug report entry on the Ubuntu forms. Not sure of a > solution yet. > > *"The PPD version (5.2.7) is not compatible with Gutenprint 5.2.8." > *

Re: [arch-general] Installing to RAID .. cannot reboot

On Monday 02 Jul 2012 13:42:39 D. R. Evans wrote: > I have finally reached the point where the various /dev/md devices mount > during the reboot > > Now I get a large number of error messages of the form: > init: failed to create pty - disabling logging for job > and: > could not load /lib

Re: [arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements

Am 03.07.2012 01:16, schrieb Karol Babioch: > First of all I'm wondering why HOME_URL is set to the plain HTTP version > of archlinux.org, whereas the other two links are set to the secure > HTTPS version. This doesn't seem to be consequent. The example shows > that Fedora is using the HTTPS versio

Re: [arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 23:58:24 +0100 Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > My setup was with dcron and ntp. > > > > Considering servers don't get chance to run the RTC battery down. > > I've never understood why everyone uses NTP which is an unneeded > > security risk anyway (OpenBSDs ain't bad). Do we think