Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Archboot needs 320 MB RAM to run. Imho most systems ourdays have this amount of memory. -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tp...@archlinux.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Unofficial User Repositories

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
Hi Bernardo, On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 19:18 -0800, Bernardo Barros wrote: > `archaudio-preview' is pretty stable, `archaudio-production' is almost > empty. So I should change the order [1]. > I think the reason for that is people who use `-preview' are quite. > > They have some advantages over AU

Re: [arch-general] Unofficial User Repositories

2012-01-15 Thread Bernardo Barros
I mean `quiet'

Re: [arch-general] Unofficial User Repositories

2012-01-15 Thread Bernardo Barros
`archaudio-preview' is pretty stable, `archaudio-production' is almost empty. I think the reason for that is people who use `-preview' are quite. They have some advantages over AUR. You can group install all plugins (ladspa-plugins, lv2-plugins etc), and they are maintained by the same group of pe

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Thomas Misilo
>I find it extremely impolite to give such a statement before you even TRIED to >use the official image, which is linked on the official download page. Thomas, Sorry for making that statement, I was under the impression that I had tried at least one or two official cd's but they were all appa

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.01.2012 21:58, schrieb Thomas Misilo: > I was only trying the archboot cd, which wasn't working. Archboot is broken by design in that way. It works, if you have massive amount of memory (I think at least 1GB). From your first mail: > Before you ask WTF, I just want to say that this is the

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.01.2012 21:48, schrieb Pierre Schmitz: > In short: It's not worth trying. Agreed. I consider this impossible without a lot of time and intimite knowledge of the various problems that will occur. Actually, the only way I can imagine is booting a recent image and upgrading from there. > Bette

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 15.01.2012 21:58, schrieb Thomas Misilo: > I was only trying the archboot cd, which wasn't working. Using the > newest installer works. Sorry for not trying that first! That's what I > get for not labeling discs and just trying them :) archboot copies the whole image to ram first as everything

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Thomas Misilo
I was only trying the archboot cd, which wasn't working. Using the newest installer works. Sorry for not trying that first! That's what I get for not labeling discs and just trying them :) Thank you again, Tom -Original Message- From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org [mailto:arch-ge

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:48:56 +0100 Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am 15.01.2012 21:35, schrieb Thomas Misilo: > > Hello, > > > > I was wondering if there are any mirrors out there that still support > > upgrading from Don't Panic? As it seems the directory structure has > > changed a lot. > > > > Bef

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 15.01.2012 21:35, schrieb Thomas Misilo: > Hello, > > I was wondering if there are any mirrors out there that still support > upgrading from Don't Panic? As it seems the directory structure has > changed a lot. > > Before you ask WTF, I just want to say that this is the only version > of the

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Thomas Misilo wrote: > Before you ask WTF, I just want to say that this is the only version of the > ISO > I have found that actually boots the installer and doesn't panic.  (Due to > only have 256MB of ram) Are you saying that newer versions panic if you have j

[arch-general] Upgrading from Don't Panic Fresh Install

2012-01-15 Thread Thomas Misilo
Hello, I was wondering if there are any mirrors out there that still support upgrading from Don't Panic? As it seems the directory structure has changed a lot. Before you ask WTF, I just want to say that this is the only version of the ISO I have found that actually boots the installer and does

Re: [arch-general] OT: xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Don Juan
On 01/15/2012 12:12 PM, Ralf Madorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 14:53 -0500, Rob wrote: On 01/15/2012 07:04 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote: "Note that software rendering does require sufficient CPU power for a good experience." SSE2 is very resource hungry, so at least for audio usage GNOME is lost. I

Re: [arch-general] OT: xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 14:53 -0500, Rob wrote: > On 01/15/2012 07:04 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote: > > > > "Note that software rendering does require sufficient CPU power for a > > good experience." SSE2 is very resource hungry, so at least for audio > > usage GNOME is lost. I don't like the work flow when

Re: [arch-general] Lighttpd and passphrase protected SSL certificate

2012-01-15 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Jan 15, 2012 12:58 PM, "Mauro Santos" @ gmail.com > wrote: > > On 15-01-2012 16:38, Audric Schiltknecht wrote: > > > > Upstream says (http:// redmine.lighttpd.net /projects/1/wiki/

Re: [arch-general] OT: xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Rob
On 01/15/2012 07:04 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote: "Note that software rendering does require sufficient CPU power for a good experience." SSE2 is very resource hungry, so at least for audio usage GNOME is lost. I don't like the work flow when using GNOME3, but I'll install it again and test it, since X

Re: [arch-general] Lighttpd and passphrase protected SSL certificate

2012-01-15 Thread Mauro Santos
On 15-01-2012 16:38, Audric Schiltknecht wrote: > > Upstream says (http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/1/wiki/Docs:SSL) that > the SSL password must be enter manually on each lighttpd start (or to > remove the passwod from the key file, which I don't want to do :)) Just out of curiosity (and may

Re: [arch-general] Mouse C&P not working (SOLVED)

2012-01-15 Thread Peter Nikolic
Right then Big thanks to everyone got it solvedthe last thing i would have thought of the USB portjust switched it to another USB port ( USB 1.1) from a USB 2.0 port and instant sucsess methinks this mother board has got to go There is one more issue i will open a thread on lat

Re: [arch-general] Mouse C&P not working

2012-01-15 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Sunday 15 Jan 2012 16:24:34 Ralf Madorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 09:58 -0500, Qadri wrote: > > > Left & right together has no effect here too, I need to push the > > > wheel > > > button. > > > > > > Is this not the true 3-button mouse setup? > > This is default I get most of the times f

Re: [arch-general] Unofficial User Repositories

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 18:42 +0100, Karol Blazewicz wrote: [snip] On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 18:54 +0100, Karol Blazewicz wrote: [snip] Thank you :) excepted of some apps I'll anyway will compile from svn, e.g. Qtractor to enable translation, to compile it with proprietary headers etc., I seldom need la

Re: [arch-general] Unofficial User Repositories

2012-01-15 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Ralf Madorf wrote: > I guess a broken "studio" app won't break the complete Arch install, but > perhaps "mate" could cause issues regarding to GTK libs, that are able > to break the complete install. Booting into the console rather than straight to X may help a bi

Re: [arch-general] Unofficial User Repositories

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 19:23 +0200, Thanasis Georgiou wrote: > On 15 January 2012 19:00, Ralf Madorf wrote: > > Hi :) > > > > I've got some newbie questions regarding to the Unofficial User > > Repositories. > > Until now I only used some AUR packages and /etc/pacman.conf was set up > > like [1]. >

Re: [arch-general] Unofficial User Repositories

2012-01-15 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Thanasis Georgiou wrote: > I am not familiar with these extra repositories but by the naming, I > would suggest not to use 'archaudio-preview', 'archaudio-nightly' and > 'archaudio-experimental' if you want the maximum stability. The archaudio repos are described

Re: [arch-general] Unofficial User Repositories

2012-01-15 Thread Thanasis Georgiou
On 15 January 2012 19:00, Ralf Madorf wrote: > Hi :) > > I've got some newbie questions regarding to the Unofficial User > Repositories. > Until now I only used some AUR packages and /etc/pacman.conf was set up > like [1]. > Now I'll uncomment multilib and add > - archaudio-production > - archstud

[arch-general] Unofficial User Repositories

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
Hi :) I've got some newbie questions regarding to the Unofficial User Repositories. Until now I only used some AUR packages and /etc/pacman.conf was set up like [1]. Now I'll uncomment multilib and add - archaudio-production - archstudio - kxstudio-free - kxstudio-non-free - arch-fonts - mate - ar

Re: [arch-general] Lighttpd and passphrase protected SSL certificate

2012-01-15 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 01/15/2012 05:38 PM, Audric Schiltknecht wrote: > Le 15 janvier 2012 14:11, Sven-Hendrik Haase a écrit : > >> Audric Schiltknecht wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> I just have switched my webserver from debian to arch. However, I ran >>> into >>> some tricks with one of my sites which uses a pass

Re: [arch-general] Lighttpd and passphrase protected SSL certificate

2012-01-15 Thread Audric Schiltknecht
Le 15 janvier 2012 14:11, Sven-Hendrik Haase a écrit : > Audric Schiltknecht wrote: > > >Hi guys, > > > >I just have switched my webserver from debian to arch. However, I ran > >into > >some tricks with one of my sites which uses a passphrase protected SSL > >certificate. Indeed, because of the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] backup strategy for our servers

2012-01-15 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 03:31, Florian Pritz wrote: > On 15.01.2012 06:29, Myra Nelson wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 18:06, Allan McRae wrote: > > > >> On 15/01/12 06:05, Ionut Biru wrote: > >> > > >> > For that we need at least to rent a new server just for this job, > maybe > >> > an atom

Re: [arch-general] Mouse C&P not working

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 09:58 -0500, Qadri wrote: > > Left & right together has no effect here too, I need to push the wheel > > button. > > > > Is this not the true 3-button mouse setup? This is default I get most of the times for Linux installs. For me this sometimes cause trouble, since the wheel

Re: [arch-general] Mouse C&P not working

2012-01-15 Thread Qadri
> Left & right together has no effect here too, I need to push the wheel > button. > > Is this not the true 3-button mouse setup? > From what files is xfce4-mouse-settings getting it's information, resp. > to what files are changes written? Regarding to the buttons the GUI only > displays right h

Re: [arch-general] Email via mutt+offlineimap+msmtp

2012-01-15 Thread gt
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:15:50AM +0100, Ralf Madorf wrote: > I don't understand why that much people are using MUAs without a GUI, > anyway, a penfriend is blind, reading braille, a good reason to use a > GUI free MUA. An Email I received yesterday was written with User-Agent: > Alpine 2.00 (DEB

Re: [arch-general] Lighttpd and passphrase protected SSL certificate

2012-01-15 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
Audric Schiltknecht wrote: >Hi guys, > >I just have switched my webserver from debian to arch. However, I ran >into >some tricks with one of my sites which uses a passphrase protected SSL >certificate. Indeed, because of the way lighttpd is currently started, >it >is not possible to enter the pas

Re: [arch-general] Email via mutt+offlineimap+msmtp

2012-01-15 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
It would appear that on Jan 15, Ralf Madorf did say: > I don't understand why that much people are using MUAs without a GUI, > anyway, a penfriend is blind, reading braille, a good reason to use a > GUI free MUA. And a good reason to support email standards that are still friendly to plain-text

[arch-general] OT: xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 12:28 +0100, Stefan Wilkens wrote: > 2012/1/15 Ralf Madorf : > > [snip] > > It's good that Arch Linux still provide the nv driver, at least Debian > > dropped it, but it's known that nouveau doesn't work for many users, > > that there at least is the need to offend the GPL to

Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Stefan Wilkens
2012/1/15 Ralf Madorf : > [snip] > It's good that Arch Linux still provide the nv driver, at least Debian > dropped it, but it's known that nouveau doesn't work for many users, > that there at least is the need to offend the GPL to use the proprietary > driver with a kernel-rt, while at the same ti

Re: [arch-general] Mouse C&P not working

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 08:50 +, Peter Nikolic wrote: > On Sunday 15 Jan 2012 01:38:17 Ralf Madorf wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 16:13 -0800, Don Juan wrote: > > > See if you have xfce4-clipman-plugin installed if not maybe try > > > installing it. May be the missing ilnk for you or may be the

Re: [arch-general] [solved] xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Don Juan
On 01/15/2012 02:46 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 22:32 -0800, Don Juan wrote: Does anyone know how to control the nvidia fan when using this driver? [snip] Card: GeForce 360m Fortunately my graphics is passive. Regarding to your issue I did some research on German. I didn't find

Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Don Juan
On 01/15/2012 02:25 AM, Stefan Wilkens wrote: 2012/1/15 Don Juan: Does anyone know how to control the nvidia fan when using this driver? Its the only thing I am not able to figure out and my video card starts getting really hot after a bit. I have tried sensors and it does not detect anything(fa

[arch-general] Lighttpd and passphrase protected SSL certificate

2012-01-15 Thread Audric Schiltknecht
Hi guys, I just have switched my webserver from debian to arch. However, I ran into some tricks with one of my sites which uses a passphrase protected SSL certificate. Indeed, because of the way lighttpd is currently started, it is not possible to enter the passphrase for such certificates. For th

Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 10:20 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote: > On 01/15/2012 08:32 AM, Don Juan wrote: > > I honestly think the nouveau > > ones are worse than the proprietary > > don't use xf86-video-nv, use xf86-video-nouveau + nouveau-dri for 3d A lot of Nvidia users can't use the nouveau driver. It d

Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 22:32 -0800, Don Juan wrote: > Does anyone know how to control the nvidia fan when using this driver? > [snip] Card: GeForce 360m Fortunately my graphics is passive. Regarding to your issue I did some research on German. I didn't find how to solve your issue, but I read a re

Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Stefan Wilkens
2012/1/15 Don Juan : > Does anyone know how to control the nvidia fan when using this driver? Its > the only thing I am not able to figure out and my video card starts getting > really hot after a bit. I have tried sensors and it does not detect > anything(fan related). I also did the pci prog, can

Re: [arch-general] Email via mutt+offlineimap+msmtp

2012-01-15 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 01:19 -0500, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > And I note that as a multi-boot/multi-Linux-distribution user That the > "alpine" packages found in at least some of the distro's repositories > appears to be compiled from re-alpine sources since If I understand it > right, the las

Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Don Juan
On 01/15/2012 12:20 AM, Ionut Biru wrote: On 01/15/2012 08:32 AM, Don Juan wrote: Does anyone know how to control the nvidia fan when using this driver? Its the only thing I am not able to figure out and my video card starts getting really hot after a bit. I have tried sensors and it does not de

Re: [arch-general] Mouse C&P not working

2012-01-15 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Sunday 15 Jan 2012 01:38:17 Ralf Madorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 16:13 -0800, Don Juan wrote: > > See if you have xfce4-clipman-plugin installed if not maybe try > > installing it. May be the missing ilnk for you or may be the cause of > > the problem if installed. Not sure what else to lo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] backup strategy for our servers

2012-01-15 Thread Florian Pritz
On 15.01.2012 06:29, Myra Nelson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 18:06, Allan McRae wrote: > >> On 15/01/12 06:05, Ionut Biru wrote: >> > >> > For that we need at least to rent a new server just for this job, maybe >> > an atom server with lots of space. >> > >> >> Don't we have an unused server

Re: [arch-general] Email via mutt+offlineimap+msmtp

2012-01-15 Thread gt
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 01:19:29AM -0500, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > -- snip -- > > And I note that as a multi-boot/multi-Linux-distribution user That the > "alpine" packages found in at least some of the distro's repositories > appears to be compiled from re-alpine sources since If I understa

Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-nv question

2012-01-15 Thread Ionut Biru
On 01/15/2012 08:32 AM, Don Juan wrote: > Does anyone know how to control the nvidia fan when using this driver? > Its the only thing I am not able to figure out and my video card starts > getting really hot after a bit. I have tried sensors and it does not > detect anything(fan related). I also di