Re: [arch-general] Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231] - FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper

2011-12-16 Thread Alex Liu
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: >  I hope somebody can point me in the right direction. I have a small dell I > moved into our TV console to use as a media center box. I installed a wireless > usb adapter 'WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]' to join the box > t

[arch-general] Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231] - FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper

2011-12-16 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, I hope somebody can point me in the right direction. I have a small dell I moved into our TV console to use as a media center box. I installed a wireless usb adapter 'WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]' to join the box to our wireless network. The box dual-boots and works fine

Re: [arch-general] signoff linux-3.1.5-1

2011-12-16 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:47 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 12/16/2011 01:17 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: >> Maybe it's because >> http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2011-November/021972.html >> ? > > That was it.. Missed the dev post :( Don't feel bad, you're not the only one

Re: [arch-general] signoff linux-3.1.5-1

2011-12-16 Thread David C. Rankin
On 12/16/2011 01:17 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: > Maybe it's because > http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2011-November/021972.html > ? That was it.. Missed the dev post :( -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Re: [arch-general] signoff linux-3.1.5-1

2011-12-16 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 08:17:24PM +0100, Karol Blazewicz wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:14 PM, David C. Rankin > wrote: > > All, > > > >  I haven't seen tpowa's normal kernel signoff > > Maybe it's because > http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2011-November/021972.html > ?

Re: [arch-general] signoff linux-3.1.5-1

2011-12-16 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:14 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > All, > >  I haven't seen tpowa's normal kernel signoff Maybe it's because http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2011-November/021972.html ?

Re: [arch-general] signoff linux-3.1.5-1

2011-12-16 Thread David C. Rankin
All, I haven't seen tpowa's normal kernel signoff, so just dropping a note it's good on multiple x86_64 and i686 boxes here. Only issue this time, which I haven't seen in the past 4-5 kernels, was the x86_64 MSI box that had a problem with the boot image being placed in a location that leaves

Re: [arch-general] [Non-Bulk] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 16 December 2011 11:06, Ralf Madorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 11:01 -0500, Calvin Morrison wrote: > > On 16 December 2011 10:59, Ralf Madorf > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 15:33 +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > > [snip] If you ban someone they soon > > > > realise and could u

Re: [arch-general] [Non-Bulk] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 11:01 -0500, Calvin Morrison wrote: > On 16 December 2011 10:59, Ralf Madorf wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 15:33 +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > [snip] If you ban someone they soon > > > realise and could use a different email. [snip] > > > > +1 > > > > If somebody d

Re: [arch-general] [Non-Bulk] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread John K Pate
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 16:59 +0100, Ralf Madorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 15:33 +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > [snip] If you ban someone they soon > > realise and could use a different email. [snip] > > +1 > > If somebody does something bad, friendly [off-list] explain this person > that (s

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Raghavendra D Prabhu
* On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 07:47:03AM +0530, gt wrote: Hello folks, i'll probably get flamed for reviving a very controversial, yet consistently brought up topic. I have seen a similar thread last year, and every other day, someone points out to someone that top posting is bad. I was off the li

Re: [arch-general] [Non-Bulk] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 16 December 2011 10:59, Ralf Madorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 15:33 +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > [snip] If you ban someone they soon > > realise and could use a different email. [snip] > > +1 > > If somebody does something bad, friendly [off-list] explain this person > that (s)he migh

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Peter Lewis
On Friday 16 Dec 2011 15:37:01 Ralf Madorf wrote: > The Internet anonymity is grotesque, it's like talking to a chatbot like > ELIZA (Weizenbaum is one of my idols :). Did you note that most Linux users > use their real names :)? > > This is more important for me than thinking about top and bottom

Re: [arch-general] [Non-Bulk] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 15:33 +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > [snip] If you ban someone they soon > realise and could use a different email. [snip] +1 If somebody does something bad, friendly [off-list] explain this person that (s)he might should reconsider the style. If this person ignore your inqu

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:10:30 +0200 Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote: ,hee hee silly being your now well > Remember how others wrote that bottom posting forces us to contemplate on > the quoted parts? I don't know if you did, but I don't understand what you > are saying and, incidentally, you forgot

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Magnus Therning
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 03:17, gt wrote: > Hello folks, i'll probably get flamed for reviving a very controversial, > yet consistently brought up topic. > > I have seen a similar thread last year, and every other day, someone > points out to someone that top posting is bad. > > I was off the list

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Sebastian Schwarz
On 2011-12-16 at 11:16 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > I agree. > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > > (...) > > > > My favourite option is to have someone with admin access to > > the list (e.g. me...) just unsubscribe anyone who top posts. Agreeing to unsubscribing top poste

Re: [arch-general] Accented characters in X terminal?

2011-12-16 Thread Magnus Therning
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:36, Damjan wrote: [...] > The symptoms do not seem like a keyboard layout problem (which would > affect everything in X) or a font problem. > > Also, the font and layout settings in rc.conf (or /etc/vconsole.conf) > have NO effect for X. > > > > What this looks like is t

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.12.2011 04:47, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > Yeah lets all just spam fuck gmail devs because they won't add a automatic > bottom posting feature. > > Seriously... > > +++ > > Since I'm uncertain how to handle incoming emails in the future I still use > my providers M$ thingy. I prefer bottom po

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread G. Schlisio
Am 16.12.2011 15:41, schrieb Gaetan Bisson: > [2011-12-16 14:51:43 +0100] G. Schlisio: >> for me, top posting seemed to save scrolling time, and everything >> included after the reply i regarded as a reference for remembering >> discussion on the topic. > Did you see the movie "Memento"? > >> man,

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2011-12-16 14:51:43 +0100] G. Schlisio: > for me, top posting seemed to save scrolling time, and everything > included after the reply i regarded as a reference for remembering > discussion on the topic. Did you see the movie "Memento"? > man, i cant think of something more stupid… Well, do you

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Ralf Madorf
> On 12/16/2011 04:59, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > > i mean, people don't act the same way with their own family vs. > > the internet allows for obscene levels of > > anonymity that simply *cannot* exist in traditional/direct > > communication We are humans so it's not bad if we misbehave, act li

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 14:51 +0100, G. Schlisio wrote: > > Am 16.12.2011 11:20, schrieb Allan McRae: > > On 16/12/11 12:17, gt wrote: > > > > [snip] > > My favourite option is to have someone with admin access to the list > > (e.g. me...) just unsubscribe anyone who top posts. > > > > Allan > > > r

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread G. Schlisio
Am 16.12.2011 11:20, schrieb Allan McRae: On 16/12/11 12:17, gt wrote: I have seen a similar thread last year, and every other day, someone points out to someone that top posting is bad. I was off the list for a while, and now when i came back, the story is still the same. And your email has

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Ralf Madorf
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 11:33 +0200, Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote: > [snip] > I have tried reading some of your messages in the last days, but it was > too difficult to understand who you are talking with, what you are > replying to and what do multiple lines of "+++" mean. Thought I'd simply > ignore th

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Rogutės Sparnuotos
Kevin Chadwick (2011-12-16 11:20): > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:06:50 +0530 > Piyush P Kurur wrote: > > > I am in support for this action. Besides this adds an additional > > "feature" to the mailing list. Once one is tired of a mailing list, > > instead of unsubscribing via normal ways just sent a to

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Rodrigo Amorim Bahiense
On 12/16/2011 04:59, C Anthony Risinger wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Rodrigo Amorim Bahiense wrote: On 12/16/2011 02:03, Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr. wrote: I don't really think that people put any conscious thought into if they should top or bottom post. A majority of mail clients and

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Calvin Morrison > Sent: Fri 12/16/2011 04:21 > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited > > On 15 December 2011 22:07,

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:06:50 +0530 Piyush P Kurur wrote: > I am in support for this action. Besides this adds an additional > "feature" to the mailing list. Once one is tired of a mailing list, > instead of unsubscribing via normal ways just sent a top posted reply > to the next email from the lis

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Piyush P Kurur
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 08:20:42PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > And your email has changed the world and we will not see a repeat of > this in the future. Hooray! > > > My favourite option is to have someone with admin access to the list > (e.g. me...) just unsubscribe anyone who top posts. > I

Re: [arch-general] a plea for python 2

2011-12-16 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Alex Bolgarov wrote: >> you all think the proper fix is for >> me to put in the docs something like "on Arch systems you need to do >> [x] before building", whether [x] is "get the PKGBUILD with the patch >> from AUR" or even "run the sed-python-with-python2.sh inc

[arch-general] Re: Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 16/12/11, Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote: > I have tried reading some of your messages in the last days, but it was > too difficult to understand who you are talking with, what you are > replying to and what do multiple lines of "+++" mean. Thought I'd simply > ignore them, but since this is kind of

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Rafa Griman
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 16/12/11 12:17, gt wrote: [...] > My favourite option is to have someone with admin access to the list > (e.g. me...) just unsubscribe anyone who top posts. Power corrupts, absolute power ... is even more fun :D Rafa

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:19:59 +0100 "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > I don't really think that people put any conscious thought into if they > should top or bottom post. That is the real issue and banning top-posting solves most problems but can actually cost a reader time in some cases. Do unto others a

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Tom Gundersen
I agree. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 16/12/11 12:17, gt wrote: >> I have seen a similar thread last year, and every other day, someone >> points out to someone that top posting is bad. >> >> I was off the list for a while, and now when i came back, the story is >> st

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Allan McRae
On 16/12/11 12:17, gt wrote: > I have seen a similar thread last year, and every other day, someone > points out to someone that top posting is bad. > > I was off the list for a while, and now when i came back, the story is > still the same. And your email has changed the world and we will not se

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Sérgio Lenzi
On 16/12/2011, at 06:19, Rafa Griman wrote: > > There are other reasons I've seen: > - people that use "smart" phones have a limited screen size and > it's "easier" to top post. > - from a behavioural point of view, people follow these steps: > 1.- read the whole mail >

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Rogutės Sparnuotos
Ralf Mardorf (2011-12-16 04:47): > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Calvin Morrison > Sent: Fri 12/16/2011 04:21 > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited Your "M$ thingy" is kind of verbose ^^^.

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Rafa Griman
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr. > Sent: Fri 12/16/2011 05:03 > > I don't really think that people put any conscious thought into if they > should top or bottom post. A m

Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

2011-12-16 Thread Rafa Griman
HI :) On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > -Original Message- > From: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of Calvin Morrison > Sent: Fri 12/16/2011 04:21 > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Top Posting Revisited [...] > I'm