Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-24 Thread Myra Nelson
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 19:38, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: >> On (10/24/11 18:00), Karol Blazewicz wrote: >> -~> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Leonid Isaev >> wrote: >> -~> > Besides, one really doesn't have to enable testing in pacman.conf -- >>

Re: [arch-general] Forums down

2011-10-24 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:55 AM, Erwin José Lopez Pulgarin wrote: > Greetings > > Just to communicate that the archlinux forum pages are all down for the time > being, I guess you already know that but just wanting to make sure in case > you didn't. > Yup, forums are down. I've e-mailed Ioni, flo

[arch-general] Forums down

2011-10-24 Thread Erwin José Lopez Pulgarin
Greetings Just to communicate that the archlinux forum pages are all down for the time being, I guess you already know that but just wanting to make sure in case you didn't.

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-24 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On (10/24/11 18:00), Karol Blazewicz wrote: > -~> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > -~> > Besides, one really doesn't have to enable testing in pacman.conf -- > individual > -~> > pacman -U will do, imho. > -~> > -~> I'

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-24 Thread Dwight Schauer
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > There are two ways to solve this: either merge your / and your /usr > partitions, or make your initramfs mount /usr so init won't even know > that /usr is separate. > > We are currently working on adding support for the second approach, > but

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-24 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Dwight Schauer wrote: > I've been using Arch Linux for about 4 years now. I have it on a few > important systems at work and it has been doing very well. > > This morning I saw "/usr is not mounted. This is not supported." in my > boot up after a recent rc.sysinit

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-24 Thread Leonid Isaev
On (10/24/11 18:00), Karol Blazewicz wrote: -~> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: -~> > Besides, one really doesn't have to enable testing in pacman.conf -- individual -~> > pacman -U will do, imho. -~> -~> I've read that [testing] is all or nothing and you shouldn't -~> cherr

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Ionut Biru
On 10/24/2011 06:58 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Ionut Biru wrote: On 10/24/2011 06:37 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: While we're at it, what it the preferred way to contact our Dear Arch Overlords if something is malfunctioning? Pierre said "try to contact us immedi

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-24 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > Besides, one really doesn't have to enable testing in pacman.conf -- > individual > pacman -U will do, imho. I've read that [testing] is all or nothing and you shouldn't cherrypick packages because you might break something. Somewhat relevan

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Ionut Biru wrote: > On 10/24/2011 06:37 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: >> While we're at it, what it the preferred way to contact our Dear Arch >> Overlords if something is malfunctioning? >> Pierre said "try to contact us immediately" >> https://bbs.archlinux.org/view

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-24 Thread Leonid Isaev
On (10/24/11 09:37), Myra Nelson wrote: -~> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 06:53, Tom Gundersen wrote: -~> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Martti Kühne wrote: -~> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: -~> >> -~> >>> Maybe this requirement should be communicated more clearly (e.g

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Ionut Biru
On 10/24/2011 06:37 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Ionut Biru wrote: On 10/24/2011 05:30 PM, Taylor Hedberg wrote: Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are located

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Ionut Biru wrote: > On 10/24/2011 05:30 PM, Taylor Hedberg wrote: >> >> Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum >> seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are >> located on the same host). Does anyone know w

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Ionut Biru
On 10/24/2011 05:30 PM, Taylor Hedberg wrote: Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are located on the same host). Does anyone know what the situation is? the services had come back online in the

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Taylor Hedberg wrote: > Jelle van der Waa, Mon 2011-10-24 @ 16:41:53+0200: >> For now: Use google Cache, way back machine? Else pacman -Ss arch wiki >> (it's from 15 october so it should be fine) > > Thanks, I didn't know the wiki was available as a downloadable pa

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-24 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 24.10.2011 16:42, schrieb Dwight Schauer: > I've been using Arch Linux for about 4 years now. I have it on a few > important systems at work and it has been doing very well. > > This morning I saw "/usr is not mounted. This is not supported." in my > boot up after a recent rc.sysinit update. B

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-24 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On 2011-10-24 17:42, Dwight Schauer wrote: This morning I saw "/usr is not mounted. This is not supported." in my boot up after a recent rc.sysinit update. What is this, bait and switch? I've been running Linux and BSD systems since 1996 and typically always have /usr in a separate partition (as

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-24 Thread Sander Jansen
This is not a new thing, it has been "broken" for quite a while. http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken Sander On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Dwight Schauer wrote: > I've been using Arch Linux for about 4 years now. I have it on a few > important systems at work

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Taylor Hedberg
Jelle van der Waa, Mon 2011-10-24 @ 16:41:53+0200: > For now: Use google Cache, way back machine? Else pacman -Ss arch wiki > (it's from 15 october so it should be fine) Thanks, I didn't know the wiki was available as a downloadable package. That will suffice for now.

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Jesse Juhani Jaara
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:30:26AM -0400, Taylor Hedberg wrote: > Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum > seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are > located on the same host). Does anyone know what the situation is? There has been a ha

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Taylor Hedberg
Paul Gideon Dann, Mon 2011-10-24 @ 15:35:58+0100: > They both look fine to me. Maybe an issue with your local DNS? Strange, I've tried it from multiple hosts, including remote hosts in other cities/on other ISPs, all with the same result, no response from the server. I haven't seen a problem with

[arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-24 Thread Dwight Schauer
I've been using Arch Linux for about 4 years now. I have it on a few important systems at work and it has been doing very well. This morning I saw "/usr is not mounted. This is not supported." in my boot up after a recent rc.sysinit update. What is this, bait and switch? I've been running Linux a

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Monday 24 Oct 2011 09:38:19 Dwight Schauer wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > > On Monday 24 Oct 2011 10:30:26 Taylor Hedberg wrote: > >> Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and > >> forum > >> seem to have been down for at least a few

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 24/10/11 16:38, Dwight Schauer wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: On Monday 24 Oct 2011 10:30:26 Taylor Hedberg wrote: Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are l

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Nicolas Paris
Le Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:38:19 -0500, Dwight Schauer a écrit : > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Paul Gideon Dann > wrote: > > On Monday 24 Oct 2011 10:30:26 Taylor Hedberg wrote: > >> Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and > >> forum seem to have been down for at least

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Dwight Schauer
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > On Monday 24 Oct 2011 10:30:26 Taylor Hedberg wrote: >> Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum >> seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are >> located on the same host). Does any

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-24 Thread Myra Nelson
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 06:53, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Martti Kühne wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> >>> Maybe this requirement should be communicated more clearly (e.g. a >>> comment in the standard pacman.conf)? >> >> Great id

Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Monday 24 Oct 2011 10:30:26 Taylor Hedberg wrote: > Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum > seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are > located on the same host). Does anyone know what the situation is? They both look fine to me. Ma

[arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

2011-10-24 Thread Taylor Hedberg
Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are located on the same host). Does anyone know what the situation is?

Re: [arch-general] Quiet Updates Lately

2011-10-24 Thread Stefan Wilkens
bibleo.org doesn't appear in the current mirrorlist. assuming you mean ibiblieo, that last synced 10 days ago Could it be that your mirrorlist [1] is outdated? Perhaps check for /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew [1] http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/any/pacman-mirrorlist/ 2011/10/24 Steve Hol

Re: [arch-general] Quiet Updates Lately

2011-10-24 Thread Cédric Girard
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote: > I assume he meant ibiblieo, a giant internet archive/library. There is a mirror there: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/ But it has not been updated for 10 days. -- Cédric Girard

Re: [arch-general] Quiet Updates Lately

2011-10-24 Thread Calvin Morrison
2011/10/24 Cédric Girard : > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > >> I've been doing 'pacman -Syu' for several days in a row lately to see >> no updates.  Is bibleo.org still a good repo in the US? Is aArch all >> that quiet lately or am I missing something? >> > > Your mirror doe

Re: [arch-general] Quiet Updates Lately

2011-10-24 Thread Cédric Girard
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > I've been doing 'pacman -Syu' for several days in a row lately to see > no updates. Is bibleo.org still a good repo in the US? Is aArch all > that quiet lately or am I missing something? > Your mirror does not even appear here: https://www.a

Re: [arch-general] Quiet Updates Lately

2011-10-24 Thread Martti Kühne
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > I've been doing 'pacman -Syu' for several days in a row lately to see > no updates.  Is bibleo.org still a good repo in the US? Is aArch all > that quiet lately or am I missing something? > there's an up-to-date list of mirrors on archlinux.o

[arch-general] Quiet Updates Lately

2011-10-24 Thread Steve Holmes
I've been doing 'pacman -Syu' for several days in a row lately to see no updates. Is bibleo.org still a good repo in the US? Is aArch all that quiet lately or am I missing something?

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:24:26 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen : > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Oon-Ee Ng > wrote: > > A user basically is using [testing] without fulfilling the above > > requirements. Should the user be advised not to use [testing] or is > > this counter-productive to the purpose

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-24 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Martti Kühne wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> Maybe this requirement should be communicated more clearly (e.g. a >> comment in the standard pacman.conf)? > > Great idea. I mean, as a non-[testing] user I get that guinea pig > f

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-24 Thread Martti Kühne
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Maybe this requirement should be communicated more clearly (e.g. a > comment in the standard pacman.conf)? Great idea. I mean, as a non-[testing] user I get that guinea pig feeling which comes naturally with linux often enough. Don't miss

[arch-general] Proposal: Translate extension for the wiki

2011-10-24 Thread atilla ontas
Hi. I'm trying to translate some articles into Turkish. While looking to the net, i've found a wiki extension named Translate extension. Advantages of this extension as well as the contact information of authors can be found here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate Features incl

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-24 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > A user basically is using [testing] without fulfilling the above > requirements. Should the user be advised not to use [testing] or is > this counter-productive to the purpose of [testing]? It is very important that people use testing [0], so we

Re: [arch-general] System Cron jobs not running

2011-10-24 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Friday 21 Oct 2011 20:05:18 R7h0re4 wrote: > Just to be safe I added the full path to my script for the commands it > is calling. > > I also looked at the wiki again and nothing mentions the use of Cronie, > and system cron jobs. I also checked the file /var/spool and see anacron > which has th