Re: [arch-general] Removing padevchooser and paman

2010-05-07 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 22:39 -0500, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: > On 05/08/10 at 11:27am, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 20:54 -0500, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: > > > On 05/08/10 at 02:23am, Jan Steffens wrote: > > > > I would like to remove these two packages from c

Re: [arch-general] Removing padevchooser and paman

2010-05-07 Thread Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227)
On 05/08/10 at 11:27am, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 20:54 -0500, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: > > On 05/08/10 at 02:23am, Jan Steffens wrote: > > > I would like to remove these two packages from community and move them to > > > unsupported (AUR). Both are marked as obsolete by

Re: [arch-general] Removing padevchooser and paman

2010-05-07 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 20:54 -0500, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: > On 05/08/10 at 02:23am, Jan Steffens wrote: > > I would like to remove these two packages from community and move them to > > unsupported (AUR). Both are marked as obsolete by upstream[1] and weren't > > updated since 2007.

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 09:29 +0800, Ye Li wrote: > I have to say althogh he may not act so "experienced" when facing problems, > I still like guys like David, about his passion in pursuing Linux > deployment in layer offices. I still remember somebody said when David came > to this ML the first tim

Re: [arch-general] Removing padevchooser and paman

2010-05-07 Thread Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227)
On 05/08/10 at 02:23am, Jan Steffens wrote: > I would like to remove these two packages from community and move them to > unsupported (AUR). Both are marked as obsolete by upstream[1] and weren't > updated since 2007. > > padevchooser is a notification area app that allows choosing default sinks >

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Ye Li
I have to say althogh he may not act so "experienced" when facing problems, I still like guys like David, about his passion in pursuing Linux deployment in layer offices. I still remember somebody said when David came to this ML the first time that "this guy makes this mailing list more active rat

Re: [arch-general] Removing padevchooser and paman

2010-05-07 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 02:23 +0200, Jan Steffens wrote: > I would like to remove these two packages from community and move them to > unsupported (AUR). Both are marked as obsolete by upstream[1] and weren't > updated since 2007. > > padevchooser is a notification area app that allows choosing defa

[arch-general] Removing padevchooser and paman

2010-05-07 Thread Jan Steffens
I would like to remove these two packages from community and move them to unsupported (AUR). Both are marked as obsolete by upstream[1] and weren't updated since 2007. padevchooser is a notification area app that allows choosing default sinks and sources, as well as starting some other PulseAudio

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.33.3-2 (and aufs2)

2010-05-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 02 May 2010 17:49:13 +0200 Pierre Schmitz wrote: > This new kernel just exports some additional symbols for aufs2 which > was updated to a new snapshot. This should hopefully fix some issues > with the .33 kernel and aufs. Related aufs packages are: aufs2 > 2.6.33_20100425-2 and aufs2-uti

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Dave Morgan
On 07/05/10 at 10:07pm, Philipp wrote: > Excerpts from Robert Howard's message of 2010-05-07 18:46:24 +0200: > > Geez. I guess it's just hard for people like David and myself, in my case a > > loyal Arch user for the better part of a decade, to understand the > > how-dare-you post a question asshol

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Philipp
Excerpts from Robert Howard's message of 2010-05-07 18:46:24 +0200: > Geez. I guess it's just hard for people like David and myself, in my case a > loyal Arch user for the better part of a decade, to understand the > how-dare-you post a question asshole attitude that seems to have built up in > the

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux release Schedule

2010-05-07 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 7 May 2010 08:42:39 +0300 Nick Stepa wrote: > Archlinux have rolling releases. You can use *netinstall*.iso for > installing new software or just do `pacman -Syu` after install. updated images are good for support of new hardware, filesystems, .. Dieter

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux release Schedule

2010-05-07 Thread Nick Stepa
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:53:35PM -0400, Keith Hinton wrote: > Hi all. > I remember way back when Aaron G posted about how Arches goal would be to > release every four months or so to keep up with regular kernel releases and > frequent ISO images. > However, I remember the last official Iso was

Re: [arch-general] intel video & suspend

2010-05-07 Thread Nick Stepa
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:15:53PM -0600, Sergey Manucharian wrote: > Excerpts from Isaac Dupree's message of Thu, 06 May 2010 14:32 -0400: > > > On 05/06/10 11:49, Sergey Manucharian wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > Regularly I put my ThinkPad R61 into suspend twice a day, and > > > everything

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Redefining [testing] and a new [staging] repo

2010-05-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Fri, 7 May 2010 13:50:01 -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: > This makes me wonder, what about the TUs and [community-testing]? The > current use of that repo would make it seem sensible to rename it to > [community-staging] instead, since it's rare there's anything in there > but in-progress rebuilds. O

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Redefining [testing] and a new [staging] repo

2010-05-07 Thread Ray Kohler
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > On Fri, 7 May 2010 12:13:33 -0500, Aaron Griffin > wrote: >> So in effect, it seems we're saying the same things, except I am using >> REPO_NAME="foo-rebuild" for each rebuild "foo", and you are using >> REPO_NAME="staging" for *all* rebuild

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Frank Thieme
On Friday 07 May 2010 18:28:57 Xavier Chantry wrote: > Maybe try irc next time, at least people won't debate for hours > whether you should have searched first or not. > They will just tell you to read the f* news, possibly with a link :) using "pacmatic" could help, too Bye...Frank

Re: [arch-general] intel video & suspend

2010-05-07 Thread Ciprian Dorin, Craciun
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 21:32, Isaac Dupree wrote: > On 05/06/10 11:49, Sergey Manucharian wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Regularly I put my ThinkPad R61 into suspend twice a day, and >> everything worked perfectly until 2.6.32 and 2.6.33 kernels. >> >> Now from time to time (≈ once a week) when I wa

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Redefining [testing] and a new [staging] repo

2010-05-07 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 07 May 2010 13:12 -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: > Even though I'm just a user, I'd like to add my support to this idea. > I even considered proposing it myself less than a month ago. I run > [testing], since I want to contribute to finding problems before they > reach [core] and [extra], but I do

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Redefining [testing] and a new [staging] repo

2010-05-07 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> here is another crazy idea I was thinking about for some days. This should >> improve our overall package quality and simplify our work flow. The >> problem >> with out cur

Re: [arch-general] intel video & suspend

2010-05-07 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 05/07/10 04:13, Christoph Rissner wrote: Now from time to time (≈ once a week) when I wake it up, the screen remains black in both X and text console. Nothing can bring it back, What about suspending again, perhaps waiting a few seconds, and resuming again? Does that have a chance to help? (

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Redefining [testing] and a new [staging] repo

2010-05-07 Thread Ray Kohler
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Hi all, > > here is another crazy idea I was thinking about for some days. This should > improve our overall package quality and simplify our work flow. The > problem > with out current [testing] repository are these: > * it is only used by

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Robert Howard
Geez. I guess it's just hard for people like David and myself, in my case a loyal Arch user for the better part of a decade, to understand the how-dare-you post a question asshole attitude that seems to have built up in the mailing lists over the past few years. On May 7, 2010 12:29 PM, "Xavier Ch

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Guilherme M. Nogueira
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:08 PM, pyther wrote: > 2.3. Set http;//home.archlinux.ca as you homepage > Instead of just ignoring threads like this, I do a quick read of everything. Sometimes, it pays off. I did not know about this start page! Very nice, indeed =) Thank you, pyther. -- Guilherme

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > >        I have had vim and gvim installed side by side for 6 months+, today > during > update, pacman wanted to remove vim because it now conflicts with gvim. So I > removed gvim and updated. What is the conflict? Why a conflict n

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Øyvind Heggstad
On Fri, 7 May 2010 09:48:39 -0500 Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: > > > http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ > > > > * If you have gvim installed, the update will inform you that vim > > conflicts with gvim. This is the expected behavior. Installati

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 07/05/10 17:10, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Nathan Wayde wrote: On 07/05/10 15:48, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ * If you have gvim installed, the update will inform you

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Burlynn Corlew Jr
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Nathan Wayde wrote: > On 07/05/10 15:48, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: > >> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: >> >> http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ >>> >>> * If you have gvim installed, the update will inform you that vim >>> conflicts >>> with

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread pyther
On 05/07/2010 11:54 AM, Nathan Wayde wrote: On 07/05/10 15:48, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ * If you have gvim installed, the update will inform you that vim conflicts with gvim. This is the expected behav

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 05/07/2010 11:27 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: At the very least, I wish you would post your tech-support questions on the forums, which are designed for that kind of content (and are sadly already a bit overrun). This list, as I understand it, is intended as the primary means for users to communicate

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Nathan Wayde
On 07/05/10 15:48, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ * If you have gvim installed, the update will inform you that vim conflicts with gvim. This is the expected behavior. Installation of vim and gvim separately

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Ray Kohler
2010/5/7 Angel Velásquez : > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:57 AM, David C. Rankin > wrote: >> On 05/07/2010 09:48 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: >>> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: >>> http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ * If you have gvim installed, the update will i

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Ionut Biru
On 05/07/2010 11:43 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, I have had vim and gvim installed side by side for 6 months+, today during update, pacman wanted to remove vim because it now conflicts with gvim. So I removed gvim and updated. What is the conflict? Why a conflict now when there hasn

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 07 May 2010 10:01 -0500, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 9:57 AM, David C. Rankin < > drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > > > On 05/07/2010 09:48 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: > > > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: > > > > > >> http://www.archlinux

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Angel Velásquez
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:57 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 05/07/2010 09:48 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: >> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: >> >>> http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ >>> >>> * If you have gvim installed, the update will inform you that vim conflicts >>>  wit

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Burlynn Corlew Jr
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 9:57 AM, David C. Rankin < drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > On 05/07/2010 09:48 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: > > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: > > > >> http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ > >> > >> * If you have gvim installed, the update will

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread David C. Rankin
On 05/07/2010 09:48 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: > >> http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ >> >> * If you have gvim installed, the update will inform you that vim conflicts >> with gvim. This is the expected behavior. Installation of vim and g

Re: [arch-general] [xmonad] Screenshot of all workspaces?

2010-05-07 Thread Øyvind Heggstad
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:45:43 -0400 Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 16:31, Nick Stepa wrote: > > Hello all! I use xmonad and want to make screenshot of all > > workspaces at once. How can I do it? > > > > Plz don`t say: "For each workspace - switch to it and use scrot" (= > > > > >

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Burlynn Corlew Jr
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Johannes Held wrote: > http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ > > * If you have gvim installed, the update will inform you that vim conflicts > with gvim. This is the expected behavior. Installation of vim and gvim > separately is no longer required, the gvim package

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.12-1

2010-05-07 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Ionut Biru: > On 05/06/2010 08:06 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > > Hi guys, > > first try of lts bump to .32 series: > > - udev-compat is not needed anymore for this kernel > > - updated lts config to this kernel series > > - lzma compression is now used > > > > With

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.12-1

2010-05-07 Thread Ionut Biru
On 05/06/2010 08:06 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi guys, first try of lts bump to .32 series: - udev-compat is not needed anymore for this kernel - updated lts config to this kernel series - lzma compression is now used With this LTS release, i want to provide binary kernel modules too. Shall t

Re: [arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread Johannes Held
http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ * If you have gvim installed, the update will inform you that vim conflicts with gvim. This is the expected behavior. Installation of vim and gvim separately is no longer required, the gvim package now installs vim as well. -- Gruß, Johannes http://hehejo.d

[arch-general] Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?

2010-05-07 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, I have had vim and gvim installed side by side for 6 months+, today during update, pacman wanted to remove vim because it now conflicts with gvim. So I removed gvim and updated. What is the conflict? Why a conflict now when there hasn't been one in the past? Just checking... -- Da

Re: [arch-general] intel video & suspend

2010-05-07 Thread Christoph Rissner
Now from time to time (≈ once a week) when I wake it up, the screen remains black in both X and text console. Nothing can bring it back, What about suspending again, perhaps waiting a few seconds, and resuming again? Does that have a chance to help? (It helps me on my Intel card's graphic glit

Re: [arch-general] Is preload really working ??

2010-05-07 Thread Christoph Rissner
You mean that wikientry? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Speed-up_Firefox_using_tmpfs I did this to test how well tmpfs works for me: mv .mozilla /dev/shm/moz ln -s /dev/shm/moz .mozilla There was some difference, but not too much as expected. From what I understand this is to keep the