Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux on Freerunner

2009-07-09 Thread James Rayner
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Alper KANAT wrote: > Hey There, > > I've never heard of BeagleBoard. As a user of it, have you tried playing HD? > I really would like to have one if can play various formats of digital video > and of course on Arch! Apparently HD capable: http://beagleboard.org/ha

[arch-general] [signoff] device-mapper-1.02.33-1 & lvm2-2.02.48-1

2009-07-09 Thread Eric Bélanger
Hi, I just pushed device-mapper-1.02.33-1 & lvm2-2.02.48-1 in testing. device-mapper-1.02.33-1 : minor upstream update, removed unneeded readline depends (close FS#15205) lvm2-2.02.48-1 : minor upstream update Please test and signoff. Users are encouraged to signoff too as only a few devs use t

Re: [arch-general] makepkg security

2009-07-09 Thread James Rayner
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Alessandro Doro wrote: > ¹ Really theoretical, assuming that the user: >  · read the PKGBUILD, >  · trust the package source. Yeah... I think I'd be somewhat suspicious if I saw a PKGBUILD calling sudo. sudo -k wouldn't be very effective either. What if I run sud

Re: [arch-general] makepkg security

2009-07-09 Thread Alessandro Doro
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 08:45:26PM -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 20:25, Alessandro Doro wrote: > > A simple workaround could be a "sudo  -k" after each sudo invocation in > > the makepkg script. > > > > I don't think there should be any such behavior added. All we do is > fo

Re: [arch-general] makepkg security

2009-07-09 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 20:25, Alessandro Doro wrote: > A simple workaround could be a "sudo  -k" after each sudo invocation in > the makepkg script. > I don't think there should be any such behavior added. All we do is follow the settings the user has established -- no more and no less. Let's not

Re: [arch-general] makepkg security

2009-07-09 Thread Alessandro Doro
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 03:00:49PM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Square wrote: > > I noticed this in my typical routine when installing AUR packages. > > 'makepkg -sic' is the typical command I use, and most of the time if > > dependencies are installed before buildi

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 14:28, Lee R. Burton wrote: > Perhaps not needed, but could be useful, more folks complaining generally = > faster action on the part of a mirror admin (like yours truely)... although, > if someone comes back from vacation to an inbox full of 300 "YOUR MIRROR IS > OUTDATED

Re: [arch-general] makepkg security

2009-07-09 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Aaron Griffin schrieb: >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Square wrote: >>> >>> I noticed this in my typical routine when installing AUR packages. >>> 'makepkg -sic' is the typical command I use, and most of the time if >>> dependencies are

Re: [arch-general] makepkg security

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Aaron Griffin schrieb: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Square wrote: I noticed this in my typical routine when installing AUR packages. 'makepkg -sic' is the typical command I use, and most of the time if dependencies are installed before building sudo doesn't time out before the install - mea

Re: [arch-general] makepkg security

2009-07-09 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Square wrote: > I noticed this in my typical routine when installing AUR packages. 'makepkg > -sic' is the typical command I use, and most of the time if dependencies are > installed before building sudo doesn't time out before the install - meaning > I do not hav

[arch-general] VTs are unusable (too dim) after X starts

2009-07-09 Thread didier gaumet
Hi all, It is probably trivial and I surely am the dumbest poster of the week, but I can't use my VT's (so dim that it is unusable) after X is started. During the boot process, VT1 is "normal" (i.e. readable). If I boot in a non-graphical mode (init level <5) there is no problem. If I boot in grap

[arch-general] makepkg security

2009-07-09 Thread Square
I noticed this in my typical routine when installing AUR packages. 'makepkg -sic' is the typical command I use, and most of the time if dependencies are installed before building sudo doesn't time out before the install - meaning I do not have to re-enter a password for installing the package it

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux on Freerunner

2009-07-09 Thread Alper KANAT
Hey There, I've never heard of BeagleBoard. As a user of it, have you tried playing HD? I really would like to have one if can play various formats of digital video and of course on Arch! Cheers! Alper KANAT On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 09:00, Jaime Oyarzun Knittel < joyar...@alumnos.inf.utfsm.cl>

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread Lee R. Burton
Perhaps not needed, but could be useful, more folks complaining generally = faster action on the part of a mirror admin (like yours truely)... although, if someone comes back from vacation to an inbox full of 300 "YOUR MIRROR IS OUTDATED" messages, they might be understandably unhappy. Might b

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 13:44, Gerhard Brauer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 09.07.2009, 19:17 +0200 schrieb Gerhard Brauer: >> You also could easy check a mirror with this script: > Could we add such a check into pacman? I don't think that's really needed. We shouldn't have any consistantly outdated

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread Gerhard Brauer
Am Donnerstag, den 09.07.2009, 19:17 +0200 schrieb Gerhard Brauer: > You also could easy check a mirror with this script: Got an idea (hehe!) Could we add such a check into pacman? So pacman could warn if current used mirror was outdated, or a commandline option to check the user prefered mir

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread Gerhard Brauer
Am Donnerstag, den 09.07.2009, 11:54 -0400 schrieb David Rosenstrauch: > Allan McRae wrote: > > Such as http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html > > Yes - exactly such as that! :-) > > Thanks much! Didn't even know that page existed. You also could easy check a mirror with this scrip

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Thursday 09 July 2009 17:50:50 David Rosenstrauch wrote: > any way we could post status on a web page somewhere on > the last time each mirror has synched There is https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus You can sort the list by last sync time etc.. There is also a list with current proble

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:54:43 -0400 David Rosenstrauch wrote: > Allan McRae wrote: > > Such as http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html > > Yes - exactly such as that! :-) > > Thanks much! Didn't even know that page existed. > > DR Maybe we should link to it from the main page or h

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Allan McRae wrote: Such as http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html Yes - exactly such as that! :-) Thanks much! Didn't even know that page existed. DR

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread Allan McRae
David Rosenstrauch wrote: Gerhard Brauer wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 09.07.2009, 09:27 -0400 schrieb David Rosenstrauch: Anyone have contact info for the rit.edu mirror? It doesn't appear to have been updated since June 30. I have contacted on Tuesday all mirror admin from the affected US/CA/E

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Cool. Thanks much, Lee. Your mirror is great, btw. Nice and fast for us US Easterners! DR Lee R. Burton wrote: Sorry, just saw this email, RIT mirror is now syncing, ... seems a lockfile got stuck. Feel free to give me a call next time for a more rapid response to it. Thanks, Lee Burton lbu

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Gerhard Brauer wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 09.07.2009, 09:27 -0400 schrieb David Rosenstrauch: Anyone have contact info for the rit.edu mirror? It doesn't appear to have been updated since June 30. I have contacted on Tuesday all mirror admin from the affected US/CA/EU mirrors, which are not sy

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread Lee R. Burton
Sorry, just saw this email, RIT mirror is now syncing, ... seems a lockfile got stuck. Feel free to give me a call next time for a more rapid response to it. Thanks, Lee Burton lbur...@mrow.org 301 910 0246 - Original Message - From: "Gerhard Brauer" To: arch-general@archlinux.org Sent:

Re: [arch-general] [OT] Re: Are base packages assumed?

2009-07-09 Thread Xavier
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Marco wrote: > Edgar, > >> Off topic: The ~2 G size of the installed packages pacman >> shows is complete size of all updated packages not the >> difference between the currently installed size and the size >> after the upgrade, right? So the complete upgrade might >

Re: [arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread Gerhard Brauer
Am Donnerstag, den 09.07.2009, 09:27 -0400 schrieb David Rosenstrauch: > Anyone have contact info for the rit.edu mirror? It doesn't appear to > have been updated since June 30. I have contacted on Tuesday all mirror admin from the affected US/CA/EU mirrors, which are not synced and have all the

[arch-general] [OT] Re: Are base packages assumed?

2009-07-09 Thread Marco
Edgar, > Off topic: The ~2 G size of the installed packages pacman > shows is complete size of all updated packages not the > difference between the currently installed size and the size > after the upgrade, right? So the complete upgrade might > have worked for you. Bad experiences have thaught

[arch-general] Mirror not updating

2009-07-09 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Anyone have contact info for the rit.edu mirror? It doesn't appear to have been updated since June 30. Thanks, DR

Re: [arch-general] Are base packages assumed?

2009-07-09 Thread Edgar Kalkowski
Off topic: The ~2 G size of the installed packages pacman shows is complete size of all updated packages not the difference between the currently installed size and the size after the upgrade, right? So the complete upgrade might have worked for you. Sorry to interrupt the thread. ;) Edgar

Re: [arch-general] Are base packages assumed?

2009-07-09 Thread Marco
Hi Allan, > Are you sure it was a "-Syu" and not an "-Sy" followed by installing > something (which many people now have discovered is bad...).  The readline > and bash packages were one after the other so readline was in the [core] > repo without base for about one second.  It is unlikely any mir

Re: [arch-general] Are base packages assumed?

2009-07-09 Thread Allan McRae
Marco wrote: Hello, I recommend putting all dependencies in depends (including base packages), as direct dependencies are used by pacman to order updates - i.e. a package is upgraded after all of its dependencies. This sometimes avoids weird race condition on updates. However, we

Re: [arch-general] Are base packages assumed?

2009-07-09 Thread Marco
Hello, > I recommend putting all dependencies in depends (including base packages), > as direct dependencies are used by pacman to order updates - i.e. a package > is upgraded after all of its dependencies. This sometimes avoids weird race > condition on updates. > However, we usually do not put

Re: [arch-general] Are base packages assumed?

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Zé Ninguém schrieb: Hi there. I was wondering if base or base-devel packages should go in a package dependency list or not? What is the current policy about that? I noticed that the instructions to build a clean chroot tell to install base, base-devel and sudo, but does that means the package sh

[arch-general] Are base packages assumed?

2009-07-09 Thread Zé Ninguém
Hi there. I was wondering if base or base-devel packages should go in a package dependency list or not? What is the current policy about that? I noticed that the instructions to build a clean chroot tell to install base, base-devel and sudo, but does that means the package should be expecting them