Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread Jan Spakula
Excerpts from Andrei Thorp's message of Mi Jun 10 23:02:39 +0200 2009: > - Xmonad and Awesome are both initally based on DWM, though both of > them now have almost none of that original code left due to it being > not actually that great (plus the wms changed a lot) Just to crush the urban myth t

Re: [arch-general] Installing packages with different glibc

2009-06-10 Thread Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
Baho Utot wrote: > Does it create complications if I install packages built with a newer > glibc-2.10.1-2 on a system with an older glibc-2.9-7? > Yes and no. Depending if the executable or library that is linked to glibc uses a symbol with declaring what version use via ELF versioning. You obta

Re: [arch-general] Installing packages with different glibc

2009-06-10 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 19:45, Baho Utot wrote: > Does it create complications if I install packages built with a newer > glibc-2.10.1-2 on a system with an older glibc-2.9-7? > > According to LFS they say if you chnage glibc you should rebuilt all the > installed packages with the newer glibc. > >

[arch-general] Installing packages with different glibc

2009-06-10 Thread Baho Utot
Does it create complications if I install packages built with a newer glibc-2.10.1-2 on a system with an older glibc-2.9-7? According to LFS they say if you chnage glibc you should rebuilt all the installed packages with the newer glibc. Does this hold true for Arch?

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread hollunder
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:24:06 -0400 David Rosenstrauch wrote: > David C. Rankin wrote: > > Listmates, > > > > After reading the newsletter article about old boxes with > > minimal hardware collecting dust in a closet, I thought about the > > openbox desktop I had just given a run-through and

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread Damian
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:02:39 -0400 Andrei Thorp wrote: > Yeah, I think the big thing about using a tiling window manager is > that it works best if you have a lot of terminals -- though reasonable > ones (Awesome included) have a floating mode with regular windows with > titlebars that is a lot l

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Andrei Thorp wrote: Yeah, I think the big thing about using a tiling window manager is that it works best if you have a lot of terminals If you have a lot of terminals, a tabbed or split-screen terminal app, like Konsole or Terminator is probably more efficient. DR

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread Andrei Thorp
Yeah, I think the big thing about using a tiling window manager is that it works best if you have a lot of terminals -- though reasonable ones (Awesome included) have a floating mode with regular windows with titlebars that is a lot like typical window managers. And yeah, shame but: - Wmii isn't

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread Samuel Baldwin
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Andrei Thorp wrote: > Some of the best ones now seem to be: > >  - Xmonad >  - Wmii >  - Awesome WM (My personal favourite which comes with a run prompt, > menus, and notifications built in) dwm[0] is a great place to start as well, especially if you're familiar wi

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread ludovic coues
I've used Wmii some few times. But the last, I've finished sick, and I've had to stop my computer for one hour or two. Every windows taking all the place is a bit oppressing, especially with wide-screen. But I can give a try to Awesome, as an alternative Wm, for when KDE is broken. Or for every da

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Andrei Thorp wrote: As such, while we're on the topic, I think nothing really gives you your bang for your computer power like a tiling wm does. Some of the best ones now seem to be: - Xmonad - Wmii - Awesome WM (My personal favourite which comes with a run prompt, menus, and notifications b

Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

2009-06-10 Thread David Rosenstrauch
David C. Rankin wrote: On Wednesday 10 June 2009 11:21:01 you wrote: David C. Rankin wrote: If you have been in the same holding-pattern lately in your thinking about kde4 as well -- I bet you will be pleasantly surprised as well ;-) Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to give it a shot one of

Re: [arch-general] Stolen Logo

2009-06-10 Thread Andrew Przepioski
Damn, that's a nice story! That's probably how it all went down. ;)

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread David C. Rankin
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 07:47:04 Andrei Thorp wrote: > I come from a place where they say, "Friends don't let friends use > non-tiling window managers" ;) > > As such, while we're on the topic, I think nothing really gives you > your bang for your computer power like a tiling wm does. > > Some of

Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

2009-06-10 Thread David C. Rankin
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 11:21:01 you wrote: > David C. Rankin wrote: > > If you have been in the same > > holding-pattern lately in your thinking about kde4 as well -- I bet you > > will be pleasantly surprised as well ;-) > > Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to give it a shot one of these day

[arch-general] emacs toolbar icons disappeared

2009-06-10 Thread prad
problem on kdemod - blank icons with little x's in them. the usual icons just disappeared suddenly. reinstalling emacs didn't bring them back. this issue was brought up on the archlinux forums: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=69825 but no resolution seemed to be reached. -- In friends

Re: [arch-general] Stolen Logo - (hijacked) What about monthly delivery of the Newsletter?

2009-06-10 Thread David C. Rankin
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 07:48:40 Andrei Thorp wrote: > > On the topic of the Arch newsletter, it would be nice if it had the > > ability to be subscribed to and emailed each month to the subscriber > > list. To keep Arch in the forefront, many times people will visit and > > like what they see th

Re: [arch-general] Stolen Logo

2009-06-10 Thread David C. Rankin
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 06:34:20 Jozsef wrote: > what a strange people they are. first they steal the logo, then thay said > it was made by themself and now it's dissapeard from their website. wow :) > > Best, > Jozsef > > -- > "Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has c

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread David Rosenstrauch
David C. Rankin wrote: Listmates, After reading the newsletter article about old boxes with minimal hardware collecting dust in a closet, I thought about the openbox desktop I had just given a run-through and thought I would pass it along. You have several lightweight desktops to choose from

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread Sergey Manucharian
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:59:05 +0200 Johannes Held wrote: . > Paste something like this into you ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml and be > shure to have gmrun installed. > > > > gmrun > > . Another good program is "dmenu". You can bind "dmenu_run" to a key. When it's launched and you s

Re: [arch-general] Stolen Logo - (hijacked) What about monthly delivery of the Newsletter?

2009-06-10 Thread Andrei Thorp
> On the topic of the Arch newsletter, it would be nice if it had the ability to > be subscribed to and emailed each month to the subscriber list. To keep Arch > in the forefront, many times people will visit and like what they see then not > remember/be able to check back each month for the newsle

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread Andrei Thorp
I come from a place where they say, "Friends don't let friends use non-tiling window managers" ;) As such, while we're on the topic, I think nothing really gives you your bang for your computer power like a tiling wm does. Some of the best ones now seem to be: - Xmonad - Wmii - Awesome WM (My

Re: [arch-general] Stolen Logo

2009-06-10 Thread Jozsef
what a strange people they are. first they steal the logo, then thay said it was made by themself and now it's dissapeard from their website. wow :) Best, Jozsef -- "Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and

Re: [arch-general] Stolen Logo

2009-06-10 Thread Matthew
Alessandro Doro wrote: j: http://www.archlinux.org/feeds/news/ Well it looks as if the logo disappeared from their website. http://www.aceitutoring.com.au

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread Alessandro Doro
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 02:46:44AM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > only thing I didn't find was an Alt+F2 run command equivalent (I'm sure it's > there, I just haven't found it) You need an extrenal program. gmrun is very nice; TAB command completion and history search. > Additionally, t

Re: [arch-general] Stolen Logo - (hijacked) What about monthly delivery of the Newsletter?

2009-06-10 Thread Alessandro Doro
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 02:28:22AM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > OK... Old dog will have to look at learning new tricks. Thanks Allan! j: http://www.archlinux.org/feeds/news/

Re: [arch-general] Stolen Logo - (hijacked) What about monthly delivery of the Newsletter?

2009-06-10 Thread Thomas Bächler
David C. Rankin schrieb: On Monday 08 June 2009 13:51:46 Loui Chang wrote: Cheers! On the topic of the Arch newsletter, it would be nice if it had the ability to be subscribed to and emailed each month to the subscriber list. http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce signa

Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread Johannes Held
"David C. Rankin" : > The > only thing I didn't find was an Alt+F2 run command equivalent (I'm sure it's > there, I just haven't found it) You have to manage this by your own. Paste something like this into you ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml and be shure to have gmrun installed. gmrun In

[arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards

2009-06-10 Thread David C. Rankin
Listmates, After reading the newsletter article about old boxes with minimal hardware collecting dust in a closet, I thought about the openbox desktop I had just given a run-through and thought I would pass it along. You have several lightweight desktops to choose from, icewm, fluxbox,

Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

2009-06-10 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 09:22:55 David C. Rankin wrote: > 195367 fish_kio Fails in kde4.3 for konqueror, kate, kwrite, etc.. fish:// is just an evil hack which should removed imho. Use sftp:// instead. -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobi

Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

2009-06-10 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 09:22:55 David C. Rankin wrote: > Now where can I get 4.3 Beta for Arch? or at least a good > howto on how to download the build dependencies needed to build from > source. I'll check the wiki ;-) Subscribe to arch-dev-public and look for the kde-unstable repo. Yes, peopl

Re: [arch-general] Stolen Logo - (hijacked) What about monthly delivery of the Newsletter?

2009-06-10 Thread David C. Rankin
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 01:50:14 Allan McRae wrote: > David C. Rankin wrote: > > On Monday 08 June 2009 13:51:46 Loui Chang wrote: > > > > > >> Cheers! > > > > On the topic of the Arch newsletter, it would be nice if it had the > > ability to be subscribed to and emailed each month to the subscr

[arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop

2009-06-10 Thread David C. Rankin
Listmates, Having been a leading pessimist of KDE4 since a crippled 4.04 was dumped on the openSuSE community on 11.0 and then more disappointment dumped again with kde 4.1 in 11.1, I have been skeptical if the desktop, which from first looks was something developed by teenagers on way