Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread François Charette
What's german pronunciation for "Arch" by the way ? ['arç] ( ≠ Arsch)

Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread Pierre CHAPUIS
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:03:07 -0500, Jeffrey Parke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Brandon Martin wrote: > > Is this for real? > yes I'm willing to start a French fork then. :) What's german pronunciation for "Arch" by the way ? -- catwell

Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread Jeffrey Parke
yes Brandon Martin wrote: Is this for real?

Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread Brandon Martin
Is this for real? -- Brandon Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 02:46:12 +0200 Alessio Bolognino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon 2008-03-31 19:32 , Dan McGee wrote: > > [...] > > We are not dropping internationalization support- we have long been > > one of the best distros for

Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread Armando M. Baratti
Dan McGee wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:21 PM, pyther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I need you guys to recommend a new distro. Unfortunately I made a terrible mistake by taking Spanish two years ago (didn't learn much, but still...). This means I do not know German I will be unable to re

Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Hussam Al-Tayeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 19:32 -0500, Dan McGee wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:21 PM, pyther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I need you guys to recommend a new distro. Unfortunately I made a > terrible >

Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 19:32 -0500, Dan McGee wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:21 PM, pyther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I need you guys to recommend a new distro. Unfortunately I made a terrible > > > > mistake by taking Spanish two years ago (didn't learn much, but still...). > > > > T

Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread Alessio Bolognino
On Mon 2008-03-31 19:32 , Dan McGee wrote: > [...] > We are not dropping internationalization support- we have long been > one of the best distros for this. You will still have English-language > manpages and everything else. However, our site will be primarily in > German from this point out, so y

Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 20:21 -0400, pyther wrote: > I need you guys to recommend a new distro. Unfortunately I made a terrible > > mistake by taking Spanish two years ago (didn't learn much, but still...). > > This means I do not know German I will be unable to read man pages and what > > not! >

Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread John Canino
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:21:44 -0400 pyther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I need you guys to recommend a new distro. Unfortunately I made a > terrible > > mistake by taking Spanish two years ago (didn't learn much, but > still...). > > This means I do not know German I will be unable to read man

Re: [arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread Dan McGee
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:21 PM, pyther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I need you guys to recommend a new distro. Unfortunately I made a terrible > > mistake by taking Spanish two years ago (didn't learn much, but still...). > > This means I do not know German I will be unable to read man pages

[arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German

2008-03-31 Thread pyther
I need you guys to recommend a new distro. Unfortunately I made a terrible mistake by taking Spanish two years ago (didn't learn much, but still...). This means I do not know German I will be unable to read man pages and what not! I am looking for an ENGLISH distro that is as similar to Arch

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licenses: GPL permutations

2008-03-31 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Roman Kyrylych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/1, Loui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Do we need a GPL1 and GPL1+? > > > > Seems like we would need a GPL1. GPL1+ is logically the same as GPL > > since there are no previous versions (are there?) > > I haven't s

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licenses: GPL permutations

2008-03-31 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/4/1, Loui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [skipped] Thousands of PKGBUILDs use license=('GPL') for "version 2 or later" already, there's no point to change this just because of cosmethics (though I like cosmethics myself :-P). > > Do we need a GPL1 and GPL1+? > > Seems like we would need a GPL1. GPL1+

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licenses: GPL permutations

2008-03-31 Thread Loui
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:24:47 -0500 "Aaron Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Man, I'm the first one to admit that arguing semantics is awesome, but > don't you think we're getting WAY to picky here? > > Read the GPL2. It actually says somewhere in there that it scales up > to newer versions of

Re: [arch-general] problem with courier-imap-4.3.1-1-i686

2008-03-31 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/3/31, Jason R Begley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jason R Begley wrote: > > I can't get some mail clients to connect to courier-imap-4.3.1-1-i686 > > after reecnt upgrades... Was working file with > > courier-imap-4.2.1-2-i686, I have rolled back without problems. Only > > error I could find in

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licenses: GPL permutations

2008-03-31 Thread JJDaNiMoTh
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:24:47 -0500 "Aaron Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Loui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:32:54 +0100 > > "Raeven Bathory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Loui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > "Roman Kyr

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Thomas Bächler
Hans Janssen schrieb: I can use iwl3945 but the radio led on my acer laptop doesn't work with it, where it does with ipw3945. Not a big issue but it's nice to see if wireless is up at a glance. Hans. As I already said on the BBS, the LED is not implemented yet. IIRC, it will be in the upcomi

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Michael Schaefer
Xavier wrote: Hey, we know the wireless led doesn't work, it has always been said so! There is no need to repeat 10 times. And I personally couldn't even notice it, I don't see what's so critical about it. You find out whether the net is working or not the second you try to access something. An

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Simo Leone
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 07:12:40PM +0200, Xavier wrote: > Michael Schaefer wrote: >> Gave it a second try and works fine for me now. But i have the same issue >> with the non working wireless led. any solution for this? would be nice to >> see if wireless is up or not... >> > > Hey, we know the w

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread lists
Hans Janssen wrote: I can use iwl3945 but the radio led on my acer laptop doesn't work with it, where it does with ipw3945. Not a big issue but it's nice to see if wireless is up at a glance. Sane think here on my Thinkpad. Wireless works good but without the led.

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Xavier
Michael Schaefer wrote: Gave it a second try and works fine for me now. But i have the same issue with the non working wireless led. any solution for this? would be nice to see if wireless is up or not... Hey, we know the wireless led doesn't work, it has always been said so! There is no ne

Re: [arch-general] problem with courier-imap-4.3.1-1-i686

2008-03-31 Thread Jason R Begley
Jason R Begley wrote: I can't get some mail clients to connect to courier-imap-4.3.1-1-i686 after reecnt upgrades... Was working file with courier-imap-4.2.1-2-i686, I have rolled back without problems. Only error I could find in the log was imapd-ssl: couriertls: accept: error:1408A0C1:SSL ro

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Michael Schaefer
Hans Janssen wrote: I can use iwl3945 but the radio led on my acer laptop doesn't work with it, where it does with ipw3945. Not a big issue but it's nice to see if wireless is up at a glance. Gave it a second try and works fine for me now. But i have the same issue with the non working wirele

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Jakub Schmidtke
Thomas Bächler wrote: > Is there anyone who cannot use iwl3945 instead > of ipw3945? I was having various problems with getting iwl3945 to work. Most of the times I wasn't able to associate to any network before I run 'iwlist scan' manually. Also, when I finally connected, I got disconnected ever

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/3/31, Sergey Manucharian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:17:45 +0200 > > Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Michael Schaefer schrieb: > > > Sergey Manucharian wrote: > > >> Recently I was installing Archlinux on a notebook and the network > > >> was working fin

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licenses: GPL permutations

2008-03-31 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Loui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:32:54 +0100 > "Raeven Bathory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Loui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Roman Kyrylych" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > GPL2 "or, at your opinion, any later version" is

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Hans Janssen
Thomas Bächler wrote: After I discovered that my problems with the new Intel driver where related to dhclient and fixed the bug, I am now successfully using iwl3945 on my machine. It seems to be working perfectly, so I am considering dropping ipw3945 from core/support with the 2.6.25 release

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licenses: GPL permutations

2008-03-31 Thread Timm Preetz
On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 14:53 -0400, Loui wrote: > > > Loui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Roman Kyrylych" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > GPL2 "or, at your opinion, any later version" is not the same as > GPL2 > > > > only + GPL3 or later. ;) > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain why they are n

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Sergey Manucharian
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:17:45 +0200 Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Schaefer schrieb: > > Sergey Manucharian wrote: > >> Recently I was installing Archlinux on a notebook and the network > >> was working fine with iwl3945 during the installation, but after > >> reboot it couldn

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Emmanuel Benisty
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Michael Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sergey Manucharian wrote: > > Recently I was installing Archlinux on a notebook and the network was > > working fine with iwl3945 during the installation, but after reboot it > > couldn't find the module. Since I had

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Thomas Bächler
Michael Schaefer schrieb: Sergey Manucharian wrote: Recently I was installing Archlinux on a notebook and the network was working fine with iwl3945 during the installation, but after reboot it couldn't find the module. Since I had no time to investigate this I've just switched to ipw3945. Exa

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Michael Schaefer
Sergey Manucharian wrote: Recently I was installing Archlinux on a notebook and the network was working fine with iwl3945 during the installation, but after reboot it couldn't find the module. Since I had no time to investigate this I've just switched to ipw3945. Exactly the same here. kr

Re: [arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Sergey Manucharian
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:18:27 +0200 Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After I discovered that my problems with the new Intel driver where > related to dhclient and fixed the bug, I am now successfully using > iwl3945 on my machine. > > It seems to be working perfectly, so I am consider

[arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core

2008-03-31 Thread Thomas Bächler
After I discovered that my problems with the new Intel driver where related to dhclient and fixed the bug, I am now successfully using iwl3945 on my machine. It seems to be working perfectly, so I am considering dropping ipw3945 from core/support with the 2.6.25 release (so there will be no ne

Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future

2008-03-31 Thread Gerhard Brauer
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 07:58:21PM +0200, Gerhard Brauer wrote: > tzdata/tzselect on ISOs: > Meanwhile (i wrote on other mail) i would prefer to handle it like km. > Maybe it could be combined with the km hint in /etc/motd. So you must > not "hurt" the installer, but it is on a place where every u

Re: [arch-general] Something screwy with colour terminal output at shutdown

2008-03-31 Thread Neil Darlow
Hi Arvid, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: could be related to that. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/1186 Not sure it is. Colours at startup are OK. It's just shutdown that's messed-up. Regards, Neil Darlow

Re: [arch-general] Something screwy with colour terminal output at shutdown

2008-03-31 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Monday 31 March 2008 09:53:22 Neil Darlow wrote: > Since the last initscripts update (I think) my colour terminal output at > shutdown is messed-up. could be related to that. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/1186 -- best regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen Arvid Ephraim Picciani

[arch-general] Something screwy with colour terminal output at shutdown

2008-03-31 Thread Neil Darlow
Hi, Since the last initscripts update (I think) my colour terminal output at shutdown is messed-up. Use of colour at startup is correct but at shutdown the following is shown: 1) The preceeding :: appear dim-yellow 2) Daemon names don't appear 3) Daemon shutdown noise (e.g. postgresql's serve