[Bug 50171] Sound is a total mess.
Public bug reported: Ubuntu's (Breezy) sound "system" is broken out of the box. After months of messing with it, I got some semblance of it working by giving up on a huge bleeding chunk of it. First problem: Two sound cards, both purportedly supported by the sound system. One is a built-in one (whichever one is in the Sony PCG-FRV23 laptop) and one an external Sound Blaster USB. (A very basic Sound Blaster, not the various hyped-up jobs.) When both are in the system both work. The system, despite a bewildering variety of provided tests and workarounds given on the mailing list, cannot reliably use one over the other, however. Some apps will go to the preferred sound card (external). Some apps rigidly go to the internal sound card no matter what is attempted. More confusingly some apps (GAIM being a major offender in this) will switch randomly between one card and the other at each invocation. That is to say that I run GAIM, get the internal. I kill it, get the external. I run it again, get the external again. I run it again, get the internal. And so on. In each individual session it uses the card it selected at startup, but each session gives it a randomc ard. After weeks of messing with this I just gave up and tossed the external sound card aside and used the bad internal one. This leads to problem 2. Second problem: I have to switch between multimedia apps at random for each new multimedia file (movies especially) that I acquire. There is no automatic downmixing system in Ubuntu that I can see, so my internal sound card, with no AC3 capabilities, etc., gets the short end of the stick. Totem/gstreamer is a laugh. It works on fewer than half of my movies. Totem/xine is better, but still mysteriously fails on a wide variety of multimedia files (with the bizarre error message "device busy"). Just xine works on most files, but will occasionally offer no sound for no observable reason. The general procedure each time I want to play a movie is: try xine, failing that try xmms, failing that try VLC, failing that try The culprit here seems to be downmixing of audio. In Windows (if I'm permitted to name that OS on this tool) downmixing audio -- 5.1 to 2.0, say, or ACS to vanilla stereo -- is done automagically behind the scenes by the sound system based on what codecs are loaded and what their capabilities are. Any multimedia application can work on any device reliably (with, obviously, loss of functionality as downmixing occurs). This doesn't seem to be the case in Ubunut's various sound systems. Downmixing seems to be entirely in the realm of the application domain and thus requires each and every multimedia application to know each and every possible combination of codecs and paths to build an output stream matching device capabilities. Most apps are not this carefully constructed and, as a result, we have the mess that's in place now. Considering that this problem was solved in Windows 98 (that I can confirm) and likely as far back as Windows 95 (I no longer have access to a Windows 95 machine to confirm this), it seems pretty embarrassing to have a "modern" operating system that's working in the domain of MS- DOS in such a key user perception area. ** Affects: Ubuntu Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed -- Sound is a total mess. https://launchpad.net/bugs/50171 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 51279] Two themes screw up GNOME buttons from fresh install.
Public bug reported: In my case I installed a new Breezy, upgraded to Dapper and rebooted. The default Human theme has broken buttons (consult attached files for an example). One other theme exhibits the same behaviour. The legacy Human theme (also attached for comparison) doesn't exhibit this problem. ** Affects: Ubuntu Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed -- Two themes screw up GNOME buttons from fresh install. https://launchpad.net/bugs/51279 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 51279] Re: Two themes screw up GNOME buttons from fresh install.
Oops. I can't seem to upload a file to Malone. I could swear that used to be possible -- Two themes screw up GNOME buttons from fresh install. https://launchpad.net/bugs/51279 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 51279] Re: Two themes screw up GNOME buttons from fresh install.
** Attachment added: "First screenshot" http://librarian.launchpad.net/3201839/Screenshot1.png ** Attachment added: "Second screenshot." http://librarian.launchpad.net/3201842/Screenshot2.png ** Attachment added: "Countering example." http://librarian.launchpad.net/3201848/Screenshot3.png -- Two themes screw up GNOME buttons from fresh install. https://launchpad.net/bugs/51279 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 9870] Re: Better spam filtering for evolution
This bug has been opened since 2004. Isn't there some kind of interim fix that can be presented like putting some kind of spam filtering proxy in as an option that circumvents Evolution's nasty way of doing this? Or perhaps a preconfigured fetchmail/spambayes pairing that is installed together with Evolution? Or something? -- Better spam filtering for evolution https://launchpad.net/bugs/9870 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 51500] Evolution requires seahorse-agent, but not set up by default
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: evolution If I want to automatically sign messages in Evolution, it needs to have seahorse-agent running. Seahorse-agent is not running when the system is first installed. Further, the name "seahorse" isn't visible in any menu -- it's called "Encryption Key Manager". An end-user, when first using Evolution and signing a message, has to figure this out by themselves, run the inobviously-named Encryption Key Manager, go into preferences, find the part that talks about the seahorse-agent, run the seahorse-agent program (there's a button for it at least), and is then told to manually add the seahorse-agent to the startup programs. Couldn't we do that for the end-user upon installing Evolution? Seeing as how it's what Evolution needs anyway ** Affects: evolution (Ubuntu) Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed -- Evolution requires seahorse-agent, but not set up by default https://launchpad.net/bugs/51500 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 51500] Re: [Bug 51500] Re: [Bug 51500] Evolution requires seahorse-agent, but not set up by default
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 13:36 +, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote: > > If I want to automatically sign messages in Evolution, it needs to > > have seahorse-agent running. > > Not seahorse-agent per se. gpg-agent will do too Well, it names seahorse-agent in the dialog that comes up. There may well be other programs that fill the proper protocol. The point, however, isn't the specific program that's required. The point is that Evolution comes out of the box requiring a program -- seahorse-agent or gpg-agent; it doesn't really matter which -- that is not set up to be running. And that what it says you have to do doesn't point to a program name that's visible on any menu. And that it should really be set up to work out of the box instead of requiring the user to manually run anything at all anyway. -- Michael T. Richter Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery." --Abraham Lincoln -- Evolution requires seahorse-agent, but not set up by default https://launchpad.net/bugs/51500 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52165] Default bookmarks include link to Bugzilla, but not to Malone.
Public bug reported: Having temporarily forgotten the address for Malone, I clicked on my "Bookmarks->Ubuntu and Free Software links" in Firefox to find it. The only link there is to the outdated Bugzilla, not to the new Malone. Following it nets me a "Server Certificate Expired" message (expired, apparently, in 2004). I'm not sure this is what people want to see while reporting a bug. ;-) ** Affects: Ubuntu Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed -- Default bookmarks include link to Bugzilla, but not to Malone. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52165 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52167] DSL configuration is suboptimal.
Public bug reported: I recently installed Dapper onto my wife's computer. She, unlike me, connected to the Internet via DSL (with no router in between). When I installed Dapper for her, I also decided to get it net connected. (I didn't bother with this for Breezy since she only used Ubuntu at the time to play Supertux. Don't ask.) After a while of scraping around the system I found the program pppoeconf. It is not related in any way to the "System->Administration->Networking" network configuration utility and nor is it referred to by said utility. It is, instead, an aging, clunky CLI application. Copying the settings I needed from the Windows side of my wife's computer (and copying the password from her original invoice), I proceeded to try and get Dapper to talk to the outside world. Every attempt failed with "authorization failure" error messages from plog. I did note a couple of points, however. (I apologise if comparing Ubuntu to Windows hurts feelings.) 1. In Windows, I have three fields to enter: service provider, userid and password. Pppoeconf gives me only two: userid and password. 2. In Windows, I provide those three values and it Just Works. In pppoeconf, if I read the help, I find that I have to try about a dozen different variations of userid that incorporate the service provider and userid. 3. It took me literally less than a minute to make a new network connection in Windows and have it up and running with that same information. (This was a test to see if the password, et al were indeed the correct ones.) After about a half-hour of wrestling with pppoeconf I gave up without once having seen it work. Except for... 4. If I booted into Windows and connected to the Internet, then quickly restarted the system and booted into Dapper, the pppoeconf setup that refused to work suddenly connected. But... 5. If I repeated the experiment, delaying the restart (putting the GRUB menu up and leaving it there for a minute or so) the pppoeconf setup failed to connect again. I gave up after that and just shelled out the cash for a Netgear router. After plugging it in and setting up the wiring, I fired up Dapper and connected to the router. The router gives three values for PPPoE configuration: service provider, userid and password. And just like under Windows it connects on the first try with no hassles. (There seemed to be a short delay the first time I did it, but every subsequent connection was like lightning. I'm not sure what this signifies.) What this leads me to conclude is that it is, in fact, possible to have good quality, simple tools for connecting over PPPoE to DSL connections. I know from direct experience that Windows and Netgear routers both offer this functionality and I know from Mac users of my acquaintance that MacOS has had this functionality for a while too. I also know that Dapper does not. What is needed are: 1. In the short term, a good, well-written, easy-to-follow document needs to be provided and made visible to end-users (perhaps a Help click on the network configuration utility?) to point to pppoeconf and give simple instructions, replete with many examples, on how to get a DSL connection working. 2. In the longer term, the network configuration utility needs to be enhanced to work like Windows, Mac and Netgear (and likely all other routers for the mass market) do: you enter three fields, click "OK" and it Just Works. ** Affects: Ubuntu Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed -- DSL configuration is suboptimal. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52167 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52316] Video card in Haier H51 laptop not correctly recognised as SiS.
Public bug reported: I bought a new laptop today, a Haier H51. Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu all work fine on it with two exceptions. (The second exception is the subject of the next bug report.) The main problem, easily solved, is that the system fails to recognise that the built-in video is an SiS. The solution was to manually edit xorg.conf and put "Driver sis" and the appropriate resolutions into it. Given that the Device Manager recognises the device and names it properly, it would be best if xorg servers could figure this out for themselves. If anybody can give me the appropriate Magic Incantations for collecting the chipset information, etc. for debugging purposes reply to this with the appropriate command lines, files, etc and I'll try my best to get the information for you. ** Affects: Ubuntu Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed -- Video card in Haier H51 laptop not correctly recognised as SiS. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52316 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52319] Sound Card on Haier H51 laptop is recognised, but not functional.
Public bug reported: I bought a new laptop today, a Haier H51. Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu all work fine on it with two exceptions. (The first exception, semi- solved, is the subject of an earlier bug report.) This exception is the usual sound problem. The system recognises the sound card. /proc/asound/cards shows: 0 [SI7012 ]: ICH - SiS SI7012 SiS SI7012 with AD1888 at 0xe800, irq 177 This is pretty damned specific information, so I think it found it properly. Yet nothing comes out of the onboard speakers nor the headphone jack and no audio comes in via the built-in microphone nor the microphone jack. If someone can give me the Magic Incantations to get detailed information from the system, post them in reply and I'll go looking for the information and post it here. ** Affects: Ubuntu Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed -- Sound Card on Haier H51 laptop is recognised, but not functional. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52319 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52316] Re: Video card in Haier H51 laptop not correctly recognised as SiS.
lspci -vv | tee /tmp/lspci-vv.log -- Video card in Haier H51 laptop not correctly recognised as SiS. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52316 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52316] Re: Video card in Haier H51 laptop not correctly recognised as SiS.
lspci -vvn | tee /tmp/lspci-vvn.log -- Video card in Haier H51 laptop not correctly recognised as SiS. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52316 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52316] Re: Video card in Haier H51 laptop not correctly recognised as SiS.
dmesg | tee /tmp/dmesg.log -- Video card in Haier H51 laptop not correctly recognised as SiS. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52316 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52319] Re: Sound Card on Haier H51 laptop is recognised, but not functional.
I can't even figure out what the workaround was supposed to be there, frankly. I chmod-ed /dev/dsp to 666 (it was 660 for some unfathomable reason). But the rest? I just can't decode. What's an IEC-related option? How do I tell what's IEC-related and what's not? If it's identified by the string "IEC" in it somewhere, there's nothing in alsamixer that shows anything to do with IEC. (To me "IEC" means "International Electrotechnical Commission" and is usually paired with "ISO", you see.) -- Sound Card on Haier H51 laptop is recognised, but not functional. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52319 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 19648] Re: On-board SIS sound card needs muted "IEC958"
Thanks for the tip, Fabian, but I have no idea what an "IEC"-related option is nor how to turn it off. I'm not finding a lot of stuff on Google explaining the term either. -- On-board SIS sound card needs muted "IEC958" https://launchpad.net/bugs/19648 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52319] Re: Sound Card on Haier H51 laptop is recognised, but not functional.
Added package as requested by Daniel T. Chen. ** Attachment added: "uname -r && amixer" http://librarian.launchpad.net/3321466/Bug%20%2352319%20-%20001.txt ** Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => linux-source-2.6.15 -- Sound Card on Haier H51 laptop is recognised, but not functional. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52319 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52316] Re: Video card in Haier H51 laptop not correctly recognised as SiS.
Figured out the package this belongs to. ** Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => xserver-xorg-driver-sis -- Video card in Haier H51 laptop not correctly recognised as SiS. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52316 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52319] Re: [Bug 52319] Re: Sound Card on Haier H51 laptop is recognised, but not functional.
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 04:42 +, Daniel T Chen wrote: > First, try: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off > If sound is still inaudible, revert your change (unmute it). Sound still inaudible. (I'm using speaker-test as the sound source. If this is inadvisable, I'll try anything else you recommend.) I'll post the exact commands I typed along with the console feedback to make sure that everything is done the way it should be done. $ amixer set 'External Amplifier' off Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] $ amixer set 'External Amplifier' on Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] > Next, try: amixer set 'Master Surround' 80%,on && amixer set 'Spread Front to > Surround and Center/LFE' on > If sound is still inaudible, revert the change to 'Spread Front to Surround > and Center/LFE' only. No sound audible. $ amixer set 'Master Surround' 80%,on && amixer set 'Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE' on Simple mixer control 'Master Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 25 [81%] [on] Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] $ amixer set 'Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE' off Simple mixer control 'Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] > Next, try: amixer set 'Exchange Front/Surround' on Still nothing going on. During this entire time, speaker-test was running and giving output like this: $ speaker-test speaker-test 0.0.8 Playback device is plughw:0,0 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 8 to 16384 Period size range from 8 to 16384 Periods = 4 Buffer time size 2525 To choose buffer_size = 16384 To choose period_size = 4096 was set period_size = 4096 was set buffer_size = 16384 0 - Front Left Time per period = 2.646899 0 - Front Left Time per period = 2.986500 0 - Front Left Time per period = 2.986515 0 - Front Left Time per period = 2.986513 ... $ amixer set 'Exchange Front/Surround' on Simple mixer control 'Exchange Front/Surround',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] $ amixer set 'Exchange Front/Surround' off Simple mixer control 'Exchange Front/Surround',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] -- Michael T. Richter Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "[Blacks] secrete less by the kidneys, and more by the glands of the skin, which gives them a very strong and disagreeable odour." --Thomas Jefferson -- Sound Card on Haier H51 laptop is recognised, but not functional. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52319 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52319] Re: Sound Card on Haier H51 laptop is recognised, but not functional.
Is there any other things I can try on this? -- Sound Card on Haier H51 laptop is recognised, but not functional. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52319 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 53519] After kernel update, system cannot boot because menu.lst hacked badly.
Public bug reported: For bizarre reasons my notebook has the hard drive as the secondary master and the CD-ROM drive as the primary master. This means that my CD-ROM drive is hda and my hard drive is hdc. Upon updating the kernel from a security patch, menu.lst got overwritten with an assumption that my boot drive was /dev/hda. All references to /dev/hdc2 (the root partition) were studiously rewritten to /dev/hda2. This is a bit bizarre in that it seemed to be careful to keep my partitions correct (it kept the "2"), but changed the drive around for no observably good reason from c to a. This happened on the most recent set of updates for Dapper 6.06LTS. ** Affects: Ubuntu Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed -- After kernel update, system cannot boot because menu.lst hacked badly. https://launchpad.net/bugs/53519 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 53705] Touchpad input support needs bolstering.
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics This for Dapper 6.06 LTS. Synaptics support is installed by default in Dapper now (a step up from Breezy), but has the following shortcomings: 1) SHMConfig is not turned on by default in xorg.conf, making it hard to adjust if you don't know about that particular little bit of Mystic Incantation 2) The tools for adjusting Synaptics support by default are CLI-oriented and not particularly user-friendly. The following solutions could be used in the short term: 1) If a Synaptics touchpad is detected at all when configuring xorg, turn on SHMConfig right away. 2) For KDE desktops, ksynaptics should be a supported, automatically- loaded package. 3) For other desktops, qsynaptics should be a supported, automatically- loaded package. (Ksynaptics and qsynaptics are pretty small packages.) A longer-term solution would be to build in the functionality of k/qsynaptics into the System->Preferences->Mouse applet. Such a program should allow users to quickly and easily turn off Synaptics support (to prevent typing irritations) and should allow adjustments to the various facets of Synaptics support (scrolling, multi-finger taps, et al) as provided by the external programs. Ideally a hot-key to turn the support on and off, as per SCIM and input methods, would be perfection on a stick. ** Affects: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed -- Touchpad input support needs bolstering. https://launchpad.net/bugs/53705 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52167] Re: DSL configuration is suboptimal.
There has been two major releases since this bug was first reported. Is there any chance of this being repaired sometime soon? Like, say, by cribbing the source code already available at the URL posted above? -- DSL configuration is suboptimal. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52167 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 52167] Re: DSL configuration is suboptimal.
That spec seems to be missing the point entirely. The issue isn't just that it's CLI vs. GUI. It's that the CLI thing itself requires the user to try out about a thousand different ways to connect and provides no useful feedback (of any kind!) when it fails. Any sane user would rather have a CLI system that works and does the Right Thing (whatever that right thing may be) over a GUI system that is confusing, frustrating and poorly-documented. In short, the issue isn't the UI, it's the functionality proper. Pppoeconf doesn't work, out of the box, for any system I've ever used it on. I'm sure it works for some people somewhere, and I'm sure that if you're really tenacious you can make it work on any system anywhere, but when MICROSOFT can make something complex work simply and quickly out of the box, not to mention every router box in the world, and Linux can't? It's time to make Linux catch up with what the rest of the world has been able to do for years. Linksys, incidentally, has a lot of GPLed code for their router and DSL boxes. Linksys routers, by coincidence, are easy to connect up to DSL setups. Perhaps a quick peek at ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode";>ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode could make this happen quickly? -- DSL configuration is suboptimal. https://launchpad.net/bugs/52167 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs