[SM-USERS] SquirrelMail authenticated user in message headers

2005-04-21 Thread Alan in Toronto
From: Jonathan Angliss  squirrelmail.org>
Subject: Re: SquirrelMail authenticated user in message headers
Newsgroups: gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user
Date: 2005-04-20 15:33:32 GMT (1 day, 3 hours and 28 minutes ago)

>> Why, oh why, does SquirrelMail have this header in it's messages:

>> SquirrelMail authenticated user your_username

> You should read the archives for the development list.  This has come
> up a couple of times, and there is code in the development branch that
> allows the administrator to hide this.

Hello Jonathan:

I read your reply to that poster. I'm also interested in this issue, and
I've searched the Development archives but have not found *the* solution.
I found many posts discussing the issue and how it might be handled, but
not how to actually disable this.

Could you please let us know if it's possible to disable the display of
the "SquirrelMail authenticated user" header in the stable branch, as in
1.4.4?

Thanks.



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Re: [SM-USERS] SquirrelMail authenticated user in message headers

2005-04-21 Thread Alan in Toronto
Fredrik Jervfors said:

> I think it's:
> config/conf.pl
> 4.  General Options
> 7.  Hide SM attributions: true

Strange, I have that same option in 1.4.4, and it's set to true (Yes), but
this header is not hidden.



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Re: [SM-USERS] SquirrelMail authenticated user in message headers

2005-04-22 Thread Alan in Toronto
Tomas Kuliavas said:
> In some cases this header is not security problem, but security feature.
> If admin does not understand possible sender forging issues, removal of
> authenticated header creates security problem in default squirrelmail
> configuration.

Yes, I understand that. I am the administrator. However, it also creates a
security and privacy issue, and in fact I have received spam to the
address shown in this header even though that address is never used for
receiving mail. (The login address is used solely for login.)

I'd like to disable it, either systemwide or on a per-user basis. However,
I'd prefer not to have to manually hack the code. I hope someone will
provide this as an option in core or as a plugin.



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Re: [SM-USERS] OT: Ideal settings for text wrapping? # characters per line?

2005-04-23 Thread Alan in Toronto
Jonathan Angliss said:
> Hello Alan,
> Friday, April 22, 2005, 1:26:02 PM, you wrote:
>
>> I realize this is somewhat OT, but I hoped someone would know a good
answer or two.
>
> How can it be off-topic when it's about SquirrelMail? :)

I like your thinking! ;)

>> I'm tired of getting replies from people, in which I see
>> awkwardly-wrapped lines of irregular length such as this:
>
>>> in reply to your message, I have to tell you that your idea is crazy, as
>>> I dislike the
>>> taste of raw skunk. You may call it "harlequin sushi", but to me it's
>>>  still
>>> just gnarly road kill.
>
>> I've played with the settings for "Wrap Incoming Text At:" and "Size of
editor window", but I still get those irregularly-wrapped
>> replies.
>
>> Is there an ideal combination of settings?
>
> What version of SquirrelMail are you using? I have to sit down this
weekend and look over the code as I've noticed the word wrapping is a
little... broken :)

I apologize. I'm usually zealous about including relevant details, but I'm
a little distracted today. Here are my details:

SquirrelMail 1.4.4
PHP 4.3.10
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2002.325-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.33
CentOS 3.3
Browser: usually IE6, but sometimes Firefox, Mozilla, etc.


Addendum: I just remembered something else. If I Reply to a message, and
then Save Draft before sending, when I return to editing that draft the
line breaks are even more borked than usual. You might want to examine
that behaviour when you're evaluating the line wrapping.







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[SM-USERS] How to remove "Folders" text from folders frame ?

2005-04-22 Thread Alan in Toronto
I'm using SM 1.4.4. What do I have to edit out to remove display of the
"Folders" text heading from the folders frame? It takes up some vertical
space which, in conjunction with the other stuff I have in that frame, is
just sufficient to cause display of a vertical scrollbar. So, I want to
remove it.

I edited /src/left_main.php to remove "Folders" text in 1.4.2, but the
code has changed since then and I can't figure out what to edit out (since
I don't know PHP).

Can anyone please tell me what to edit out in /src/left_main.php to safely
remove display of "Folders" heading?

Thanks.




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Re: [SM-USERS] OT: Ideal settings for text wrapping? # characters per line?

2005-04-22 Thread Alan in Toronto
Jonathan Angliss said:
> Hello Alan,
> Friday, April 22, 2005, 1:26:02 PM, you wrote:
>
>> I realize this is somewhat OT, but I hoped someone would know a good
>> answer or two.
>
> How can it be off-topic when it's about SquirrelMail? :)

I like your thinking! ;)

>> I'm tired of getting replies from people, in which I see
>> awkwardly-wrapped lines of irregular length such as this:
>
>>> in reply to your message, I have to tell you that your idea is crazy,
>>> as
>>> I dislike the
>>> taste of raw skunk. You may call it "harlequin sushi", but to me it's
>>>  still
>>> just gnarly road kill.
>
>> I've played with the settings for "Wrap Incoming Text At:" and "Size
>> of editor window", but I still get those irregularly-wrapped
>> replies.
>
>> Is there an ideal combination of settings?
>
> What version of SquirrelMail are you using? I have to sit down this
> weekend and look over the code as I've noticed the word wrapping is a
> little... broken :)

I apologize. I'm usually zealous about including relevant details, but I'm
a little distracted today. Here are my details:

SquirrelMail 1.4.4
PHP 4.3.10
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2002.325-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.33
CentOS 3.3
Browser: usually IE6, but sometimes Firefox, Mozilla, etc.

Thanks




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[SM-USERS] OT: Ideal settings for text wrapping? # characters per line?

2005-04-22 Thread Alan in Toronto
I realize this is somewhat OT, but I hoped someone would know a good
answer or two.

I'm tired of getting replies from people, in which I see awkwardly-wrapped
lines of irregular length such as this:

> in reply to your message, I have to tell you that your idea is crazy, as
I dislike the
> taste of raw skunk. You may call it "harlequin sushi", but to me it's
>  still
> just gnarly road kill.

I've played with the settings for "Wrap Incoming Text At:" and "Size of
editor window", but I still get those irregularly-wrapped replies.

Is there an ideal combination of settings?




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Re: [SM-USERS] How to remove "Folders" text from folders frame ?

2005-04-26 Thread Alan in Toronto
p dont think said:

>> Can anyone please tell me what to edit out in /src/left_main.php to
>> safely
>> remove display of "Folders" heading?

> Yeah, it is kind of ugly, isn't it?

I think so. I find it entirely redundant, as it is self-evident that the
frame contains the folders list. Maybe "Folders" heading should be removed
from core.

> $ grep -rn "Folders" src/
> 
> 
> src/left_main.php:858:''. _("Folders") . " />\n\n";

Is that the line that I am to delete?



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[SM-USERS] One attachment drops off the message each time

2005-10-28 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.4
PHP 4.3.11
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2002.325-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.33
CentOS 3.3
Many plugins

Sorry, I can't find anything similar in my searches, and I'm not even sure
what to name this problem.

I compose a message and attach a few JPG images. I send the message, one
of the attachments drops off. When I open the copy of the message in the
Sent folder, sure enough one of the attachments is missing. If I click
"Edit Message as New" and send it again, now another attachment drops off
what is actually sent.

e.g. I attach 5 JPG images to a message. I send it, but when I open the
copy in Sent folder, it shows only 4 images. If I edit that as new and
send again, now the Sent copy shows only 3 images were sent.

Any ideas on things to check/test would be appreciated. Please reply to my
address, as I'm not currently receiving the list distribution.

Thanks.






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Re: [SM-USERS] One attachment drops off the message each time

2005-10-30 Thread Alan in Toronto
Jonathan Angliss said:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
>
> On Fri, October 28, 2005 15:53, Alan in Toronto wrote:
>> SquirrelMail 1.4.4
>> PHP 4.3.11
>> UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2002.325-cpanel)
>> Apache 1.3.33
>> CentOS 3.3
>> Many plugins
>>
>>
>> Sorry, I can't find anything similar in my searches, and I'm not even
>> sure what to name this problem.
>>
>> I compose a message and attach a few JPG images. I send the message, one
>> of the attachments drops off. When I open the copy of the message in the
>> Sent folder, sure enough one of the attachments is missing. If I click
>> "Edit Message as New" and send it again, now another attachment drops
>> off
>> what is actually sent.
>
> Any chance you might be able to test with a cvs snapshot?  I believe an
> issue was recently fixed which involved something very similar to this
> where if the encoding of the file was of a certain length, new line
> characters were not added properly.  This resulted in the last two
> attachments "merging".
>
> - --
> Jonathan Angliss
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Jonathan, thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, you're suggesting that
I do a parallel installation of 1.5.0? Does that mean that you suspect
that this problem exists in 1.4.4 and 1.4.5 and that there's nothing I
could do to my installation to fix it?





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Re: [SM-USERS] One attachment drops off the message each time

2005-11-01 Thread Alan in Toronto
Jonathan Angliss said:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
>
> On Sun, October 30, 2005 08:08, Alan in Toronto wrote:
>>>> SquirrelMail 1.4.4
>>>> PHP 4.3.11
>>>> UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2002.325-cpanel)
>>>> Apache 1.3.33
>>>> CentOS 3.3
>>>> Many plugins

>>>> I compose a message and attach a few JPG images. I send the message,
>>>> one of the attachments drops off. When I open the copy of the message
>>>> in the Sent folder, sure enough one of the attachments is missing. If
>>>> I click
>>>> "Edit Message as New" and send it again, now another attachment drops
>>>> off what is actually sent.

> Not at all... I'm suggesting you do a parallel install of 1.4.6-cvs.
> 1.5.0 is very old, and is a development version with known bugs.  If you
> really want to use a development version, you should use a 1.5.1-cvs
> snapshot.

Sorry, I hadn't been keeping up with SM issues, so I had a quick glance at
the downloads page and saw those versions. Now I see the CVS downloads
lower on the page.

>> Does that mean that you suspect that this problem exists in 1.4.4 and
>> 1.4.5 and that there's nothing I could do to my installation to fix it?
>
> If this is the same bug (you can verify by looking at the message details
> and seeing if you find a content-type header in the middle of an
> attachment block),

Do you mean to view the HTML source of the page? Sorry, I can't find what
you mean. I'll send you a test message.

> then the issue is with PHP changing their behaviour
> with one of their functions we use.  I believe it was reported on the
> users or devel list, but I don't have a reference right now, I'll rummage
> about however, and see what I can dig up.

It doesn't seem predictable, at least not based on my limited testing. I
attached three .PRN files yesterday, and all three were sent. But when I
attached four or five JPGs, at least one always "dropped off".

> As a side note, an upgrade is certainly suggested, 1.4.4 has known
> security issues.  Details of them can be seen here
> http://www.squirrelmail.org/security/

Yep, I know, I just haven't had time. If this problem is due to the issue
you think it is, is it fixed in 1.4.5? I'm just so busy right now (packing
and moving, in addition to work) that I don't really have time to test out
CVS versions. At least if I install a stable release, then that takes care
of my next upgrade.

Is it fixed in 1.4.5, so I could install that to try? Or, can I apply a
patch or just replace certain files? Or, is the team close to releasing
1.4.6 stable?

Thanks for your interest and advice, as always.



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[SM-USERS] register_globals=on error in new 1.4.6 installation, though 1.4.4 on same server is fine

2006-03-03 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.4.1
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2003.339p-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.34
CentOS 4.2 i686
Our webserver runs as nobody.

Hello all. I'm installing 1.4.6, though I have been using 1.4.4 for a
while now on the same server.

I ran SquirrelMail configtest on the new 1.4.6 installation, and it
stopped at this error:
 ERROR: You have enabled php register_globals. Running PHP installation
with register_globals=on can cause problems. See security information
about register_globals.

I've read the link and also several posts on various lists, but I'm not
much wiser. Can someone please summarize:
 - what is the problem and is it serious?
 - can the problem be easily solved without breaking something else?
 - I'm on shared hosting (it's not my server) so can I solve this?
 - Is there any way to let the configtest bypass the register_globals
error so that it will run the remaining tests?

Because I'm on a shared server I override some PHP values locally in an
.htaccess file, such as to enable attachments greater than 2 MB. So, I
added the following to the .htaccess file in the new 1.4.6 directory:
 php_value register_globals Off

I then ran phpinfo.php, and it showed that while the Master Value is still
"On", the Local Value for register_globals is now "Off". Yet when I re-run
SquirrelMail configtest it still says that register_globals=on even though
it has been overridden locally.

Help please, this is beyond my knowledge. Thanks.







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Re: [SM-USERS] register_globals=on error in new 1.4.6 installation, though 1.4.4 on same server is fine

2006-03-04 Thread Alan in Toronto
Tomas Kuliavas said:

> php_flag register_globals off
>
> not php_value. register_globals is boolean.

Okay, that worked!
Strange that when I used "php_value register_globals Off", phpinfo.php
showed that the Local Value for register_globals did go "Off" so it
appeared successful.

> Your webhosting provider must
> allow use of htaccess files in apache configuration.

It does, and I use htaccess to override various values such as "php_value
upload_max_filesize" to increase attachment size.

> It is strongly recommended to run SquirrelMail and other PHP scripts with
> register_globals turned off. Provider should turn globals only when
> scripts are broken, don't work in rg=off and you can't fix those scripts.

So, should I recommend that my web host turn register_globals off for the
entire server? I'm all right now, as adding your line to my htaccess file
has solved the issue for my SM install, but should I make my web host
aware of this issue?

> We are trying to prevent use of insecure SquirrelMail and PHP setups.

Sounds prudent. :)

Thanks Tomas!





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Re: [SM-USERS] register_globals=on error in new 1.4.6 installation, though 1.4.4 on same server is fine

2006-03-04 Thread Alan in Toronto
Casey Allen Shobe wrote:

> FWIW, I help run a hosting company, and we follow Tomas's stance which I
> agree
> with fully.  We've seen exploits in older code using register_globals, and
> a
> whole lot more possible exploits that fortunately remained undiscovered.
> It's not an automatic fix-all to turn register_globals off - there's still
> a
> lot of lousy PHP code out there, but it's a big help.
>
> You might want to take a look at the information we've posted about our
> php.ini settings, recommendations, and ways to workaround/fix here:
> http://help.seattleserver.com/?page=website_php
>
> Also read the comments at the top of the php.ini-recommended file that
> comes
> in the php archive downloadable from php.net.

Thanks very much for your opinions and the information. It is indeed
helpful. BTW, your help site is well done!

Thanks.



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Re: [SM-USERS] register_globals=on error in new 1.4.6 installation, though 1.4.4 on same server is fine

2006-03-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
Tomas Kuliavas said:

> It is strongly recommended to run SquirrelMail and other PHP scripts with
> register_globals turned off. Provider should turn globals only when
> scripts are broken, don't work in rg=off and you can't fix those scripts.
>
> You can use SquirrelMail 1.4.6 in rg=on setup, but you won't pass
> configtest. I'll protest, if somebody tries to make rg=on check non-fatal
> in SM-1_4-STABLE branch. We are trying to prevent use of insecure
> SquirrelMail and PHP setups.

A PHP coder I know had this to say:
If you want to pass on my comments, tell them to stop using uninitalised
variables and not to use extract($_POST) because it's almost the same as
register_globals on.





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Re: [SM-USERS] Downloading or Exporting sent mail

2006-03-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
Ash Lawn-Highland said:
> How do I download or export mail in the sent mail folder?  I have
> inherited
> a problem and need to empty a sent folder that my boss refuses to empty.
> She "needs to save it".  Help please!  I am not highly computer literate
> either so simple instructions would be appreciated!

You may find the  Archive Mail plugin to be useful:
http://www.squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=121






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RE: [SM-USERS] Downloading or Exporting sent mail

2006-03-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
Ash Lawn-Highland wrote:
> I can't get the file unzipped.  Any suggestions?

Yes.

1. Don't top-post. It makes it difficult to follow the conversation.

2. Keep the discussion on the list, so that others may benefit.

3. WinZip 9 will open it on a PC, as will many untar tools on the web
server. I don't know what else to tell you: I just tried it, and it opened
fine for me. It's not a SquirrelMail problem; you need to have an
appropriate tool to untar unzip archives.




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Re: [SM-USERS] downloading/exporting sent mail

2006-03-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
Ash Lawn-Highland wrote:
>
>
> I have winzip 10 and it will not let me unzip the archive mail plug in. As
> I mentioned in my first email I am not highly computer literate.  What is
> untaring?
>
> Is there any other way to download or export the sent mail?


I've created a standard .zip archive for you and sent it to your address.
That might be easier for you.










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[SM-USERS] Awkward line wrapping: what are ideal settings for incoming and editor line length?

2006-03-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
I'm tired of getting replies from people, in which I see awkwardly-wrapped
lines of irregular length such as this:

> in reply to your message, I have to tell you that your idea is crazy, as
> I dislike
> the taste of raw skunk. You may call it "harlequin sushi", but to me
> it's
> still just gnarly road kill.

I've played with the settings for "Wrap Incoming Text At:" and "Size of
editor window", but I still get those irregularly-wrapped replies.

Is there an ideal combination of settings?



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[SM-USERS] Save Draft causes more awkward line wrapping than usual

2006-03-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
In replies,I see awkwardly-wrapped lines of irregular length such as this:

> in reply to your message, I have to tell you that your idea is crazy, as
> I
> dislike the taste of raw skunk. You may call it "harlequin sushi", but to
> me
> it's still just gnarly road kill.


If I Reply to a message, and then Save Draft before sending, when I return
to editing that draft the line breaks are even more borked than usual. You
might want to examine that behaviour when you're evaluating the line
wrapping.



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RE: [SM-USERS] downloading/exporting sent mail

2006-03-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
Ash Lawn-Highland wrote:
> Thank you for the archive.  I could unzip it but beyond that I am
> clueless.

Ah, I'm sensing the real issue here. Are you the administrator for your
SquirrelMail installation? What I sent you is a plugin, which must be
installed on your SquirrelMail server. It does not run on a PC.

If you are not the SquirrelMail administrator, then I suggest that you
forward the plugin to your administrator.



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[SM-USERS] Awkward line wrapping: what are ideal settings for incoming and editor line length?

2006-03-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
Sorry, I neglected to include my installation details:
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.4.1
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2003.339p-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.34
CentOS 4.2 i686
Our webserver runs as nobody.


I'm tired of getting replies from people, in which I see awkwardly-wrapped
lines of irregular length such as this:

> in reply to your message, I have to tell you that your idea is crazy, as
> I
> dislike the taste of raw skunk. You may call it "harlequin sushi", but to
> me
> it's still just gnarly road kill.

I've played with the settings for "Wrap Incoming Text At:" and "Size of
editor window", but I still get those irregularly-wrapped replies.

Is there an ideal combination of settings?





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[SM-USERS] Save Draft causes more awkward line wrapping than usual

2006-03-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
Sorry, I neglected to include my installation details:
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.4.1
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2003.339p-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.34
CentOS 4.2 i686
Our webserver runs as nobody.


In replies,I see awkwardly-wrapped lines of irregular length such as this:

> in reply to your message, I have to tell you that your idea is crazy, as
> I
> dislike the taste of raw skunk. You may call it "harlequin sushi", but to
> me
> it's still just gnarly road kill.


If I Reply to a message, and then Save Draft before sending, when I return
to editing that draft the line breaks are even more borked than usual. You
might want to examine that behaviour when you're evaluating the line
wrapping.





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Re: [SM-USERS] Upgrading SquirrelMail

2006-03-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
William R. Mussatto said:
> Again, the messages (unless like us you are also changing your IMAP server
> and mail directory setup at the same time) and user configurations seem to
> go over smoothly.  But you need permission to access your server as root.

You don't need root access. I have an account on a shared web server, so I
don't have server root access. I was able to install SquirrelMail in my
web hosting account. The server already had Apache, SMTP and sendmail,
IMAP and PHP.



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RE: [SM-USERS] Awkward line wrapping: what are ideal settings for incoming and editor line length?

2006-03-09 Thread Alan in Toronto
Marc Powell wrote:

>> I'm tired of getting replies from people, in which I see
> awkwardly-wrapped
>> lines of irregular length such as this:
>>
>> > in reply to your message, I have to tell you that your idea is
> crazy, as
>> > I dislike
>> > the taste of raw skunk. You may call it "harlequin sushi", but to me
>> > it's
>> > still just gnarly road kill.
>>
>> I've played with the settings for "Wrap Incoming Text At:" and "Size
> of
>> editor window", but I still get those irregularly-wrapped replies.
>>
>> Is there an ideal combination of settings?


> I've found this plugin to be useful --
>
> http://www.squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=231


Thanks, I'll try that. However it doesn't solve the fundamental problem of
lines getting messed up, and getting even more messed up when "Save Draft"
or "Edit Message as New" are used. I recall last year Jonathan wrote that
this was an issue that needed review, but perhaps he hasn't had a chance
to dig into it yet.





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Re: using asian fonts when composing (was: Re: [SM-USERS] using Thai characters when composing, interface in english)

2006-03-09 Thread Alan in Toronto
Johannes Egger wrote:

>> SquirrelMail supports utf-8. If you use utf-8 or any other multibyte
>> character set, use of SquirrelMail 1.4.6cvs or 1.5.1cvs and PHP with
>> mbstring extension is recommended. Older SquirrelMail versions don't
>> encode headers correctly. If mbstring extension is not present,
>> interface
>> does not break, but it reverts to broken quoted-printable encoding.
>
> This is a production machine and I am reluctant to use cvs versions. Do
> you consider them stable enough to use in a production environment?

1.4.6 is now in full stable release, so you could try that. I installed it
a few days ago and have had no issues with it. In fact, it has cured some
problems I was having in 1.4.4.



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Re: [SM-USERS] Re: [SM-PLUGINS] Announcement: SquirrelMail patch forum

2006-03-15 Thread Alan in Toronto
Johannes Egger wrote:

>>>   ==> SquirrelMail (SM) patch forum <==

> Personally I'd also rather use official code, and I'm sure a lot of
> other users feel the same. New users might get confused by references to
> other sites, and might not know what it entails to "risk" using
> third-party patches that may or may not do what they intend.
>
> I'd rather wait for the author of the plugin to commit changes

I agree with you. I'd rather participate in the established groups, and
with authors, to provide ideas and suggest changes. I'd rather use the
established system so that new versions are distributed via the official
site. This provides better opportunity for changes to be well tested and
any glitches to be reported, discussed and remedied.

I have no interest in some unofficial forum with quick hacks that aren't
well tested, and possibly written by authors who can't be bothered to
follow SM guidelines.





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[SM-USERS] Re: [SM-DEVEL] Re: [SM-PLUGINS] Announcement: SquirrelMail patch forum

2006-03-16 Thread Alan in Toronto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Lessons learned: Never work with CVS code.

LOL. I believe they try to make those releases fairly stable, but of
course they are in active development so glitches can occur. I install
only the stable series 1.4.x for that reason.

> Uuh... I think you sould differentiate a bit more. There are users out who
> tries first to find an solution and only ends up on mailing list. Anyway,
> I
> think we should always try to give us all room for improvements by
> offering additional or new ways to find answers to the questions.

Is there not some way to integrate or connect what you're doing to the
existing SM community? It's great if you can revise plugins that are in
need of revision, where the authors aren't interested. But, most SM folks
won't find your web site so the existing community won't benefit from your
work and you won't benefit from their comments and testing.

Isn't there some way you can still do your work, but discuss and
communicate it within the existing SM community?



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Re: [SM-USERS] Re: Style of Quoted Text

2006-03-22 Thread Alan in Toronto
Daniel Watts wrote:

> Is there a way to turn off quoting altogether? Some users find the ">"'s
> annoying (dispite their usefulness for readability!).

Options | Display Preferences






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Re: [SM-USERS] SM And Ajax?

2006-03-30 Thread Alan in Toronto
Marc Groot Koerkamp wrote:

> But, most of what you want can be achieved by normal html/css/js/dom
> ussage without the need for ajax.

Agreed, but it first requires some change on the part of SM coders. We
need them to stop putting so much content into fixed-width tables, to make
better use of structural modelling, and to make liberal use of class and
ID attributes. That way even if SM doesn't ship with CSS styling, those of
us who know CSS can add our own styling and formatting on top.



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Re: [SM-USERS] SM And Ajax?

2006-03-30 Thread Alan in Toronto
Marc Groot Koerkamp wrote:

> If you download SM 1.5.1 or 1.5.2 CVS you will see we are transforming
> everything to CSS. So the transition already started ...

That sounds encouraging, thanks. Now if only we can get plugin authors to
do the same. Some of the fixed-width fixed-font layouts really are
awkward.





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Re: [SM-USERS] SM And Ajax?

2006-03-30 Thread Alan in Toronto
Fredrik Jervfors wrote:
>>> If you download SM 1.5.1 or 1.5.2 CVS you will see we are transforming
>>> everything to CSS. So the transition already started ...
>>
>> That sounds encouraging, thanks. Now if only we can get plugin authors
>> to
>> do the same. Some of the fixed-width fixed-font layouts really are
>> awkward.
>
> The eggs will come when we have a chicken. It's hard for the plugins to
> mimic a behaviour that isn't implemented yet.


Actually, no. Many improvements could be made now just by avoiding fixed
widths and tables. The work involved is relatively minor, but it requires
people who code HTML, as I do, using better structure with DIVs and other
elements rather than fixed-width tables. That allows them to flexibly
adapt to any screen, and allows users to style them more readily to alter
both layout and formatting.

I posted about it in reference to the Notes plugin a while back:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.squirrelmail.plugins/11259/match=notes+horizontal




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Re: [SM-USERS] cpanel hosting

2006-04-01 Thread Alan in Toronto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Perhaps cpanel was hosting squirrelmail prior to Tuesday, March 27,
> 2006 and I didn't realize it, however, as of last Tuesday I am now
> required to login through cpanel in order to access my squirrelmail
> account.  As a result, I have been unable to access my admin page via
> the internet address www.mywebsite.com/admin that I used to be able to
> use prior to last Tuesday.  How do I access my admin features for my
> website under this new hosting scenario?

You'd better ask your web host. You've posted to a list that is used by
developers and users of the SquirrelMail software. These people don't run
your hosting.

It sounds as though you've been using the SquirrelMail that is packaged
with cPanel, whereas most people on this list install SquirrelMail
separately.

FWIW, I use cPanel hosting but I don't have any default admin page at
www.mywebsite.com/admin. I access cPanel at mywebsite.com/cpanel, and WHM
at www.mywebsite.com/whm. Your "admin" page must be something you or your
web host set up, as it doesn't appear to be part of standard cPanel or
SquirrelMail.





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[SM-USERS] Messages sent via SquirrelMail often flagged as spam

2006-04-06 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.4.1
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2003.339p-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.34
CentOS 4.2 i686
Our webserver runs as nobody.

Many of my recipients don't receive my messages, sent from SquirrelMail,
because my messages end up in their spam folders or are filtered out by
their ISP or employer as spam. Why does this happen so often with
SquirrelMail-sent messages?

I know about the "bug" in one version of Spam Assassin, that mistakently
assigns messages sent by SquirrelMail with a higher spam score than is
warranted.

I also have some recipients who find that my messages end up flagged in
the subject line with "Bayesian Filter detected spam". With some such
recipients, an initial message makes it through cleanly, but if I reply to
their message then it will be flagged "Bayesian Filter detected spam".

With some other recipients it's unclear what spam filtering is in place,
but my messages always end up in their spam folder.

Yes, users should check their spam folders. But, some users aren't clued
in enough to remember to do that. From a non-informed user perspective, it
would be better if we SM administrators could do something to minimize the
chances that our mail is flagged or blocked as spam.

What causes so many SquirrelMail-sent messages to be flagged as spam? Is
there anything we can do about it?






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Re: [SM-USERS] Messages sent via SquirrelMail often flagged as spam

2006-04-07 Thread Alan in Toronto
Tomas Kuliavas wrote:

Hi again Tomas. Thanks for the help.

>> SquirrelMail 1.4.6
>> PHP 4.4.1
>> UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2003.339p-cpanel)
>> Apache 1.3.34
>> CentOS 4.2 i686
>> Our webserver runs as nobody.
>>
>> Many of my recipients don't receive my messages, sent from SquirrelMail,
>> because my messages end up in their spam folders or are filtered out by
>> their ISP or employer as spam. Why does this happen so often with
>> SquirrelMail-sent messages?
>>
>> I know about the "bug" in one version of Spam Assassin, that mistakently
>> assigns messages sent by SquirrelMail with a higher spam score than is
>> warranted.
>>
>> I also have some recipients who find that my messages end up flagged in
>> the subject line with "Bayesian Filter detected spam". With some such
>> recipients, an initial message makes it through cleanly, but if I reply
>> to
>> their message then it will be flagged "Bayesian Filter detected spam".
>>
>> With some other recipients it's unclear what spam filtering is in place,
>> but my messages always end up in their spam folder.
>>
>> Yes, users should check their spam folders. But, some users aren't clued
>> in enough to remember to do that. From a non-informed user perspective,
>> it
>> would be better if we SM administrators could do something to minimize
>> the
>> chances that our mail is flagged or blocked as spam.
>>
>> What causes so many SquirrelMail-sent messages to be flagged as spam? Is
>> there anything we can do about it?
>
> Bayes is trained spam detection engine. If users misuse it or train it
> incorrectly

I agree. However, the recipients affected by this are not the ones who
administer the spam detection. Their ISP or employer is marking my
messages as spam.

> If users send emails from broadband addresses, some spam filtering engines
> might check ip address in first Received header and assign extra points
> when address is listed in DUL RBL.

Do you mean my ISP connection IP? I do use broadband (DSL) as my ISP
connection. Is there somewhere I can lookup addresses on DUL RBL? I
Googled but didn't find a list or query form.

> If you have server on DSL connection,
> filters can check second received header.

No, I don't run a local server. My web server (which runs SM) is in the
Pegasus/Fortress ITX datacentre in New Jersey. It's a shared hosting web
server, so I am not the only account on it.

> SquirrelMail 1.4.6 allows to
> hide user's ip address. Two different options are available. One option is
> in 4. General options section and another is in SMTP/Sendmail options.

Sorry, I don't see those options. I use the Administrator plugin in 1.4.6.
Here are the options displayed in those two sections:

(-) Server Settings
Mail Domain
IMAP Server Address  127.0.0.1
IMAP Server Port  143
IMAP Server Type University of Washington's IMAP server
IMAP Folder Delimiter/
Use TLS for IMAP Connections No   Requires PHP 4.3.x! Experimental.
IMAP Authentication Type IMAP
Use Sendmail Binary No   Choose "no" for SMTP
Sendmail Path
SMTP Server Address  127.0.0.1
SMTP Server Port  25
Use TLS for SMTP Connections No   Requires PHP 4.3.x! Experimental.
SMTP Authentication Type   No SMTP authLogin
POP3 Before SMTP?  No
Header Encryption Key
Invert Time


(-) General Options
Data Directory
Temp Directory
Hash Level Hash Disabled
Default Left Size
Usernames in Lowercase YesNo
Allow use of priority YesNo
Hide SM attributions YesNo
Enable use of delivery receipts YesNo
Allow editing of identities YesNo
Allow editing of full name YesNo
Remove username from headers YesNo   Used only when identities can't be
modified
Use server-side sorting YesNo
Use server-side thread sorting YesNo
Allow server charset search YesNo
UID support


> If you use sendmail (http://www.sendmail.org) and SquirrelMail is
> configured to use /usr/sbin/sendmail, sendmail can add extra headers about
> untrusted senders. These headers can trigger spam filters too.

I use SMTP.

> Are you sure that X-AntiAbuse headers are added to all email users? If
> they are present only in SquirrelMail emails, headers might trigger some
> filtering engines too.

I just checked Outlook, which I use occasionally if my SM server is down,
and its headers do not include X-AntiAbuse.

I'd like to do what I can to decrease the odds of my mail being blocked by
spam filters. The recipients who are affected by this aren't technically
savvy, so they can't provide much help other than to say that my mails
don't arrive or end up in spam folders.








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Re: [SM-USERS] Messages sent via SquirrelMail often flagged as spam

2006-04-07 Thread Alan in Toronto
Tomas Kuliavas wrote:

[snip]

>>> If users send emails from broadband addresses, some spam filtering
>>> engines
>>> might check ip address in first Received header and assign extra points
>>> when address is listed in DUL RBL.
>>
>> Do you mean my ISP connection IP? I do use broadband (DSL) as my ISP
>> connection. Is there somewhere I can lookup addresses on DUL RBL? I
>> Googled but didn't find a list or query form.
>
> http://www.dnsstuff.com
>
> First form in second column.
>
>>> If you have server on DSL connection,
>>> filters can check second received header.
>>
>> No, I don't run a local server. My web server (which runs SM) is in the
>> Pegasus/Fortress ITX datacentre in New Jersey. It's a shared hosting web
>> server, so I am not the only account on it.
>>
>>> SquirrelMail 1.4.6 allows to
>>> hide user's ip address. Two different options are available. One option
>>> is
>>> in 4. General options section and another is in SMTP/Sendmail options.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't see those options. I use the Administrator plugin in
>> 1.4.6.
>> Here are the options displayed in those two sections:
>>
>> (-) Server Settings
> ...
>> Header Encryption Key
>
> Encryption key allows to hide SquirrelMail Received: headers
> in outbound messages. Interface uses encryption key to encode
> username, remote address and proxied address, then stores encoded
> information in X-Squirrel-* headers.
>
> Warning: used encryption function is not bulletproof. When used
> with static encryption keys, it provides only minimal security
> measures and information can be decoded quickly.
>
> Encoded information can be decoded with decrypt_headers.php script
> from SquirrelMail contrib/ directory.

Sorry, that is greek to me. ;) What is it that you suggest that I enter
there, and will it help this situation?

>> (-) General Options
> ...
>> Remove username from headers ...
>
> SquirrelMail adds username information to every sent email. It is done in
> order to prevent possible sender forging when end users are allowed to
> change their email and name information.
>
> You can disable this header, if you think that it violates user's privacy
> or security. Please note, that setting will work only when users are not
> allowed to change their identity.

That's the problem. We do allow users to edit multiple identities: it's
very useful to be able to send FROM multiple addresses, all within a
single SM login.

As I recall, a while back this was discussed on one of the lists, and many
people felt that this was a privacy issue. They, and I, would like to see
an administrator option to disable the header showing username
information, even if we do allow use of multiple identities.

> ...
>>> If you use sendmail (http://www.sendmail.org) and SquirrelMail is
>>> configured to use /usr/sbin/sendmail, sendmail can add extra headers
>>> about untrusted senders. These headers can trigger spam filters too.
>>
>> I use SMTP.
>>
>>> Are you sure that X-AntiAbuse headers are added to all email users? If
>>> they are present only in SquirrelMail emails, headers might trigger
>>> some filtering engines too.
>>
>> I just checked Outlook, which I use occasionally if my SM server is
>> down, and its headers do not include X-AntiAbuse.
>>
>> I'd like to do what I can to decrease the odds of my mail being blocked
>> by
>> spam filters. The recipients who are affected by this aren't technically
>> savvy, so they can't provide much help other than to say that my mails
>> don't arrive or end up in spam folders.
>
> If your server adds this header, try testing spam filters when this header
> is disabled or does not contain 'abuse' word.

Hard to do, as the recipients with the spam filtering aren't technically
savvy. Even getting them to provide headers info is difficult.





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Re: [SM-USERS] Messages sent via SquirrelMail often flagged as spam

2006-04-07 Thread Alan in Toronto
Tomas Kuliavas wrote:
[snip]
> Any password string will work.
>
> if encryption string is not set, SquirrelMail adds
> ---
> Received: from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>   (SquirrelMail authenticated user some-username)
>   by webserver-address with HTTP;
> ---
>
> If encryption string is set, SquirrelMail adds
> ---
> X-Squirrel-UserHash: FRwJBxQoFRwUCQsBEl0IEg==
> X-Squirrel-FromHash: VEtTUFZQUEE=
> ---
> or something similar.
>
> First header looks like standard email header and can be parsed by email
> scanners. Second header is custom. Why should scanners care about it.

Interesting. I've set that now. I don't think it will help with my problem
of SquirrelMail-sent messages being blocked, but it will make my login
address more private by not displaying it in plain text.

Thanks Tomas.






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Re: [SM-USERS] Errors on thread view of over 20k messages folder

2006-04-10 Thread Alan in Toronto
eCet wrote:

> This is for all develpoers of SM:
>
> I see, that You don't take care of my performance bugreport, and
> feature request. You can't even say that you don't get my emails
> through this list.
>
> I think, that I'm worthy to get a reply for my emails.
>
> What You are doing, is spineless.

Who pissed in your cornflakes?

You may not be aware, but the developers of SM are not paid for their
work. This is a volunteer community. In my experience, they do good work
and are generous with assistance.

If your request went unanswered, it may be that members were too busy to
respond. It may be that they didn't have a good response to make. It may
be that the feature you requested was not widely needed or would be
onerously difficult to code. Either way, you have no right to slam group
members just because you didn't get what you wanted.






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Re: [SM-USERS] Lost squirrelmail?

2006-04-12 Thread Alan in Toronto
Elena O'Donnell wrote:
> For the past 2 years my website host company ~ Dixie Systems ~ provided
> Squirrelmail for my website email.  Wellthe particular host site
> www30. crashed and I lost my site as well as my email.
>
> Here is my question.  Is it possible to retrieve my lost emails from you
> directly?

No. We don't have your mail. This is a discussion list for developers and
administrators of SquirrelMail, which is the software that your web host
installed and that you used. Asking this group if they have your mail is
like asking Microsoft if they have the MS Word documents that got
accidentally deleted from your PC.

Ask your web host if they have backups. They should have daily and weekly
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Re: [SM-USERS] Attachment Problems

2006-04-13 Thread Alan in Toronto
Tomas Kuliavas wrote:
>> Hi. For some reason, I'm having trouble receiving an attachment as an
>> Excel
>> or Word document. My supplier has sent it to me in both formats, and
>> every
>> time the attachment comes through as winmail.dat. The file size is 198
>> k,
>> so
>> I hope it's not a size problem. Please let me know what I might do to
>> remedy
>> this.
>
> Install attachment_tnef plugin or ask email sender to stop using Rich Text
> format in Microsoft Outlook.

Agreed. Ask the sender to change the option in Outlook to format mail
messages as "plain text". That way it will be readable by any recipient.





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Re: [SM-USERS] Unsafe Images

2006-05-05 Thread Alan in Toronto
Doug Appleton wrote:
> Hello all.. Another silly question.. Is there a way with SQ to allow the
> users to see the images embedded into an email without having SQ block
> it out??

It's only silly because you neglected to search the archives or even the
SM site, either of which would have answered your question.

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[SM-USERS] Change username of mail account, or move mail to new account

2006-06-16 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.3.11
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2003.339p-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.34
CentOS 4.3
Our webserver runs as nobody.

Greetings all. I realize this isn't strictly an SM question, but I figured
that the smart people here may be the best source of an answer.

I want to change the username of a mail account that is accessed with SM.
e.g. I want to change it from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Domain stays the same, but mail user name changes.)

What's the best way to do this, so logging in with the new mail user name
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will show all the mail and folders that were in Moe's
account and all prefs are changed to the new name?

Or, if that's too complicated, I could create the new user account
[EMAIL PROTECTED] separately, and manually recreate the various SM prefs.
In that case, how would I move or copy all the mail and folders from the
old account to the new account, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for considering this puzzle.





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[SM-USERS] test

2006-06-18 Thread Alan in Toronto




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[SM-USERS] Unable to send or save draft of message with specific content

2006-06-18 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.3.11
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2003.339p-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.34
CentOS 4.3
Our webserver runs as nobody.


I am unable to send or save a specific message. I'm trying to reply to a
message from this list, that was posted by Chris Hilts (as a reply to my
original query). Chris's reply was on Friday, June 16, with Subject line:
"Re: [SM-USERS] Change username of mail account, or move mail to new
account"

It's the weirdest thing. I've been trying to reply to Chris's message,
including the quoted stuff, but I can't. Everytime I try to send the
message or to save it as a draft, I get the following error page:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /~domain/src/compose.php on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an
ErrorDocument to handle the request.

--

Apache/1.3.36 Server at secure32.dnsvelocity.com Port 443



I've tried various tests, and it seems that it's the content of the
message that is the barrier. Even if I compose a brand new message, if I
paste the quoted stuff from the message and my new reply, I'm unable to
send or save the message but instead receive that error.

Any ideas?





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Re: [SM-USERS] Unable to send or save draft of message with specific content

2006-06-18 Thread Alan in Toronto
Tomas Kuliavas wrote:
>> SquirrelMail 1.4.6
>> PHP 4.3.11
>> UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2003.339p-cpanel)
>> Apache 1.3.34
>> CentOS 4.3
>> Our webserver runs as nobody.
>>
>>
>> I am unable to send or save a specific message. I'm trying to reply to a
>> message from this list, that was posted by Chris Hilts (as a reply to my
>> original query). Chris's reply was on Friday, June 16, with Subject
>> line:
>> "Re: [SM-USERS] Change username of mail account, or move mail to new
>> account"
>>
>> It's the weirdest thing. I've been trying to reply to Chris's message,
>> including the quoted stuff, but I can't. Everytime I try to send the
>> message or to save it as a draft, I get the following error page:
>>
>> Forbidden
>> You don't have permission to access /~domain/src/compose.php on this
>> server.
>>
>> Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use
>> an
>> ErrorDocument to handle the request.
>>
>> -
>>
>> Apache/1.3.36 Server at secure32.dnsvelocity.com Port 443
>>
>>
>>
>> I've tried various tests, and it seems that it's the content of the
>> message that is the barrier. Even if I compose a brand new message, if I
>> paste the quoted stuff from the message and my new reply, I'm unable to
>> send or save the message but instead receive that error.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> Check source of compose window. Compare it with email message that works.

The compose window is always the same. The only difference is the content
text that I put in the message composition field.

> If you think that error is triggered by message text,

It seems to be so. It's the variable that causes the failure. I can e-mail
to the same recipients and with the same subject line, but without that
text content, and it works. Anytime I paste that text content, which
includes quoting Chris' message to the list, the 'send' or 'save draft'
fails.

> create empty html form and try posting email text in it.

Do you mean create a form-to-mail form on a web page on the same server?

> If you have some form filtering software on your server, make sure that it
> is working correctly.

Not that I'm aware of, but I'll check.

Thanks. Any further thoughts are appreciated.




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Re: [SM-USERS] Unable to send or save draft of message with specific content

2006-06-19 Thread Alan in Toronto
Tomas Kuliavas wrote:

> If it works - test script with .php extension.
>
> If it still works - add hidden input fields from compose form that does
> not work.
>
>>> If you have some form filtering software on your server, make sure that
>>> it is working correctly.
>>
>> Not that I'm aware of, but I'll check.
>>
>> Thanks. Any further thoughts are appreciated.
>
> Find compose form part that triggers error. Make sure that you can
> reproduce it without gpg, html_mail or any other plugin that uses compose
> form hooks.


Thanks Tomas. I tested with a few forms, and that and your other advice
helped me narrow it down.

I discovered that my web host uses mod_security on their servers.
Apparently that is blocking the entire message, or form input, due to one
little line of Chris' message. That line shows forward slashes and
directory names, to indicate some directories Chris was pointing me to.
For some reason mod_security rejects the message or input because of that
line.





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Re: [SM-USERS] Change username of mail account, or move mail to new account

2006-06-19 Thread Alan in Toronto
Chris Hilts wrote:
> Alan in Toronto wrote:
>> SquirrelMail 1.4.6
>> PHP 4.3.11
>> UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2003.339p-cpanel)
>> Apache 1.3.34
>> CentOS 4.3
>> Our webserver runs as nobody.
>
>> I want to change the username of a mail account that is accessed with
>> SM.
>> e.g. I want to change it from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> (Domain stays the same, but mail user name changes.)
>
> Hmmm.  Well, the SquirrelMail side is easy - just rename Moe.* in your
> $data_dir to Curly.*  (Slightly more complicated if you use the gpg
> plugin or hashing, but you get the idea)
>
> As far as the IMAP side of things, I've never tried what you're asking
> with uw-imap.  In theory, as I understand it: rename the home directory,
> the user entry in [various directories].

[directory paths edited out, because on my server mod_security is blocking
my reply if it includes those paths]

> If you want a slightly-less-optimal solution, you could always just make
> Curly an alias to Moe, and have the user alter their From: header..
>
> Hope this helps, and good luck.  When you find the solution that works
> for you, go ahead and post it for the archives.. Maybe it'll help
> someone else out someday.


Thanks, that's a start. I'll pass that to the server admin in hopes that
he can refine it to a complete solution. (I can't use the idea of just
forwarding, because I want to :fail the original address due to way too
much spam.)

So, I could still use more detailed directions if anyone knows them.

Thanks Chris.






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Re: [SM-USERS] Change username of mail account, or move mail to new account

2006-06-19 Thread Alan in Toronto
Freddie Cash wrote:
> On Mon, June 19, 2006 7:26 am, Alan in Toronto wrote:
>>>> SquirrelMail 1.4.6
>>>> PHP 4.3.11
>>>> UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2003.339p-cpanel)
>>>> Apache 1.3.34
>>>> CentOS 4.3
>>>> Our webserver runs as nobody.
>
>>>> I want to change the username of a mail account that is accessed
>>>> with SM.
>>>> e.g. I want to change it from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> (Domain stays the same, but mail user name changes.)
>
> Look into the imapsync program.  It will allow you to move or copy
> messages from one account to another.  The accounts can be on the same
> IMAP server or on two different servers.  It runs on any Unix-like
> system.  I've used it very successfully to transfer accounts between
> servers (from UW-IMAP to Cyrus, from Courier to Cyrus, and from Cyrus
> to Cyrus).
>
> Using imapsync, the process to "rename" an account would be:
>   - create a new account with the new name
>   - use imapsync to copy/move all messages from the old account to the
> new account
>   - copy the SquirrelMail .abook, .sig, and .pref files over to the
> new account name in the SM data directory

Interesting. Thanks for that.





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[SM-USERS] SquirrelMail suddenly painfully slow and often "page not found" errors - something wrong on server?

2006-09-25 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.4.4
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2004.357-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.37
CentOS 4.4
Our webserver runs as nobody.
IMAP Server Address: 127.0.0.1

Many plugins, including: Auto Complete; Folder Synch; Select Range; etc.
I ran configtest, and it reports: "Congratulations, your SquirrelMail
setup looks fine to me!"

My SquirrelMail has become so painfully slow that it is often
unusable, and often it fails and displays "page not found" error pages
in the folder list frame, the message list frame, or both frames.

SquirrelMail was fine before about 3 or 4 weeks ago, and I have made
no changes to SquirrelMail in that time. I rent space on a shared web
server, and I'm sure there have been changes to the server config in
that time. However, the server loads are normal and the support guys
can't find anything to explain the SM slowness.

The problem is not with any individual mail account. This problem
exists no matter which mail account I use.

Please give me some idea of what the problem could be, or what to
check, or what server config/admin I should ask the web host tech
support to check. Thanks for any help.

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Re: [SM-USERS] SquirrelMail suddenly painfully slow and often "page not found" errors - something wrong on server?

2006-09-25 Thread Alan in Toronto
On 9/25/06, Tomas Kuliavas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > SquirrelMail 1.4.6
> > PHP 4.4.4
> > UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2004.357-cpanel)
> > Apache 1.3.37
> > CentOS 4.4
> > Our webserver runs as nobody.
> > IMAP Server Address: 127.0.0.1
> >
> > Many plugins, including: Auto Complete; Folder Synch; Select Range; etc.
> > I ran configtest, and it reports: "Congratulations, your SquirrelMail
> > setup looks fine to me!"
> >
> > My SquirrelMail has become so painfully slow that it is often
> > unusable, and often it fails and displays "page not found" error pages
> > in the folder list frame, the message list frame, or both frames.
> >
> > SquirrelMail was fine before about 3 or 4 weeks ago, and I have made
> > no changes to SquirrelMail in that time. I rent space on a shared web
> > server, and I'm sure there have been changes to the server config in
> > that time. However, the server loads are normal and the support guys
> > can't find anything to explain the SM slowness.
> >
> > The problem is not with any individual mail account. This problem
> > exists no matter which mail account I use.
> >
> > Please give me some idea of what the problem could be, or what to
> > check, or what server config/admin I should ask the web host tech
> > support to check. Thanks for any help.
>
> 1. man top. Check apache processes.

What is "man top"? And are there specific apache processes that I
should ask  the web host's tech support to check, or direct them to
check for certain things?

> 2. Make sure that cpanel updates haven't turned off server side sorting in
> SquirrelMail

I still have the following settings in my own config:
Use server-side sorting Yes
Use server-side thread sorting  Yes

And when I click "IMAP server information" in "Options", it returns this:

Server Capability response:
* CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LITERAL+ IDLE NAMESPACE MAILBOX-REFERRALS
BINARY UNSELECT SCAN SORT THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT
MULTIAPPEND SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS AUTH=LOGIN

Does that indicate that sorting is still supported? Or, is there a
test I can enter in that  "IMAP server information" screen to check?

> 3. Make sure that dns and indent services work on web server. uw checks
> client's reverse dns address and indent by default.

Is there any way I can test this, or do I need to contact the web
host's tech support?

> 4. Check session directory usage

Will the web host's tech support know what that means when I make that
request? Should I ask them to check for anything in particular?

> 5. If you use imapproxy, check proxy debugging options.

Can I check if they use imapproxy, or must I ask them?

One further piece of information that might help someone to solve this
puzzle: when I use the shared SquirrelMail installation that comes as
part of cPanel, it seems somewhat faster than my own installation and
doesn't get the "page not found" errors. That shared installation is
also 1.4.6, but is just the basic install with no extra plugins. My
own installation has many plugins, and my config options are somewhat
different.

Thanks for your help Tomas!

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Re: [SM-USERS] SquirrelMail suddenly painfully slow and often "page not found" errors - something wrong on server?

2006-09-25 Thread Alan in Toronto
On 9/25/06, Tomas Kuliavas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks for all the suggestions Tomas. I'll dig into this more
tomorrow, try running without plugins and get my web host support to
check various things.

Alan



On 9/25/06, Paul A. Franz, P.E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have that problem too. But only when there the account has a lot of e-mail 
> in it.


My situation occurs even with an account that is almost empty, so
that's not a factor.

> Apparently, this behavior is normal and some say that IMAP usage, say with
> SM, just must be limited to when you are away from your main location
>  where you can POP mail.


I've used SM as my primary mail client for years, and it is generally
quite fast. The slowness and "page not found" errors are quite recent.

Thanks for the information. I'm going to do more investigation and
testing tomorrow.

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[SM-USERS] Sendmail vs. SMTP - - pros, cons?

2006-09-26 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.4.4
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2004.357-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.37
CentOS 4.4
Our webserver runs as nobody.
IMAP Server Address: 127.0.0.1
SMTP Server Address: 127.0.0.1
Server side sorting is enabled
Server side thread sorting is disabled
register_globals are off for my installation, but they are on for the
rest of the server
Many plugins, including: Auto Complete; Folder Synch; Select Range; etc.

For my SquirrelMail installation I had been using SMTP to send the
outgoing messages. However, I've been trying to isolate another
problem so today I've been trying it using Sendmail instead.

Can anyone provide some comparison between Sendmail and SMTP for
sending outgoing mail from the server? Are there advantages of one
over the other, or disadvantages? Are there reasons why I should use
one rather than the other for SquirrelMail?

Thanks.

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Re: [SM-USERS] Sendmail vs. SMTP - - pros, cons?

2006-09-29 Thread Alan in Toronto
On 9/26/06, Paul Lesniewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 9/26/06, WJCarpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Can anyone provide some comparison between Sendmail and SMTP for
> > > sending outgoing mail from the server? Are there advantages of one
> > > over the other, or disadvantages? Are there reasons why I should use
> > > one rather than the other for SquirrelMail?
> >
> > With sendmail, you probably get a mild efficiency improvement.
> >
> > With sendmail, you probably get a boatload of generally tolerable quirky
> > behavior.

Anything that would affect me as an SM user or SM administrator? (I am
not the server admin, which is run by my web host.)

I have been using SMTP for years, but yesterday I switched to Sendmail
because it seems to solve or at least workaround a problem that was
occurring when using SMTP.

> I am partial to SMTP because you get immediate feedback (on the
> compose screen) for some types (certainly not all) of errant mails

Agreed, that is a nice benefit, although not a "deal breaker" for me.

> SMTP is really nice if you do things like set up a specific port for
> your webmail senders in Postfix for which a different set of
> restrictions/filters is applicable compared to your outward-facing
> SMTP service/port.

I don't do any of that. I simply need a way for SquirrelMail to send
outgoing mail. Is there any reason I should avoid using Sendmail and
instead try to uncover the source of the problem so that I can return
to using SMTP? Or for my use, is Sendmail just as good as SMTP?

Thanks guys.




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[SM-USERS] Sendmail vs. SMTP - - pros, cons? follow-up

2006-10-10 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.4.4
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2004.357-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.37
CentOS 4.4
Our webserver runs as nobody.
IMAP Server Address: 127.0.0.1
SMTP Server Address: 127.0.0.1
Server side sorting is enabled
Server side thread sorting is disabled
register_globals are off for my installation, but they are on for the
rest of the server
Many plugins, including: Auto Complete; Folder Synch; Select Range; etc.

I was looking for some comparison between Sendmail and SMTP for sending
outgoing mail from the server? Are there advantages of one over the other,
or disadvantages? Are there reasons why I should use one rather than the
other for SquirrelMail?

Paul and WJCarpenter replied, and I have some follow-up questions to their
replies.

On 9/26/06, WJCarpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With sendmail, you probably get a mild efficiency improvement.
>
> With sendmail, you probably get a boatload of generally tolerable
> quirky behavior.

Is there anything that would affect me as an SM user or SM administrator?
(I am not the server admin, which is run by my web host.)

I have been using SMTP for years, but recently I switched to Sendmail
because it seems to solve or at least workaround a problem that was
occurring when using SMTP.


On 9/26/06, Paul Lesniewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am partial to SMTP because you get immediate feedback (on the
> compose screen) for some types (certainly not all) of errant mails

Agreed, that is a nice benefit, although not a "deal breaker" for me.

> SMTP is really nice if you do things like set up a specific port for
> your webmail senders in Postfix for which a different set of
> restrictions/filters is applicable compared to your outward-facing
> SMTP service/port.

I don't do any of that. I simply need a way for SquirrelMail to send
outgoing mail. Is there any reason I should avoid using Sendmail and
instead try to uncover the source of the problem so that I can return to
using SMTP? Or for my use, is Sendmail just as good as SMTP?

Thanks guys.





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Re: [SM-USERS] Sendmail vs. SMTP - - pros, cons? follow-up

2006-10-11 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Tue, October 10, 2006 11:38 am, Paul Lesniewski wrote:

> It's always good to figure out what the source of your problem is, but
> if it's out of your control and you don't see any funky behavior or
> slower performance or other adverse effects, then Sendmail is fine --
> that's why both options are there in the end -- they both work
> reasonably well.

Thanks Paul. Clear, succinct and helpful, as usual. :)





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[SM-USERS] Bounceback: Invalid character in mail header

2006-10-24 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.4.4
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2004.357-cpanel)
Apache 1.3.37
CentOS 4.4
Our webserver runs as nobody.
IMAP Server Address: 127.0.0.1
Sendmail for outgoing mail
Server side sorting is enabled
Server side thread sorting is disabled
register_globals are off for my installation, but they are on for the rest
of the server

I received the following "bounceback" message saying my message could not
be delivered to the intended recipient. I've never seen this warning
before. I Googled it and checked some help sites, but I can't find an
explanation of what the problem is.

Is this some problem with how SquirrelMail wrote the headers, or a problem
with my web host's mail server?

-- Text of bounceback warning below ---

INVALID CHARACTERS IN HEADER

Non-encoded 8-bit data (char C8 hex) in message header 'X-Source'
  X-Source: \310(\365\267,\034\236\277\312\n
^

This nondelivery report was generated by the amavisd-new program
at host mail. Our internal reference code for your message
is 10172-04.


WHAT IS AN INVALID CHARACTER IN MAIL HEADER?

  The RFC 2822 standard specifies rules for forming internet messages.
  It does not allow the use of characters with codes above 127 to be used
  directly (non-encoded) in mail header (it also prohibits NUL and bare CR).

  If characters (e.g. with diacritics) from ISO Latin or other alphabets
  need to be included in the header, these characters need to be properly
  encoded according to RFC 2047. This encoding is often done transparently
  by mail reader (MUA), but if automatic encoding is not available (e.g.
  by some older MUA) it is the user's responsibility to avoid the use
  of such characters in mail header, or to encode them manually. Typically
  the offending header fields in this category are 'Subject', 'Organization',
  and comment fields in e-mail addresses of the 'From', 'To' and 'Cc'.

  Sometimes such invalid header fields are inserted automatically
  by some MUA, MTA, content checker, or other mail handling service.
  If this is the case, that service needs to be fixed or properly configured.
  Typically the offending header fields in this category are 'Date',
  'Received', 'X-Mailer', 'X-Priority', 'X-Scanned', etc.

  If you don't know how to fix or avoid the problem, please report it
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Re: [SM-USERS] Bounceback: Invalid character in mail header

2006-10-25 Thread Alan in Toronto
I guess that means that either my host's mail server is incorrectly
configured, or that the headers were somehow corrupted on this message. If
it happens again I'll contact my host's support.

Thanks Tomas.

On Tue, October 24, 2006 3:31 pm, Tomas Kuliavas wrote:
>> SquirrelMail 1.4.6
>> PHP 4.4.4
>> UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2004.357-cpanel)
>> Apache 1.3.37
>> CentOS 4.4
>> Our webserver runs as nobody.
>> IMAP Server Address: 127.0.0.1
>> Sendmail for outgoing mail
>> Server side sorting is enabled
>> Server side thread sorting is disabled
>> register_globals are off for my installation, but they are on for the
>> rest
>> of the server
>>
>> I received the following "bounceback" message saying my message could
>> not
>> be delivered to the intended recipient. I've never seen this warning
>> before. I Googled it and checked some help sites, but I can't find an
>> explanation of what the problem is.
>>
>> Is this some problem with how SquirrelMail wrote the headers, or a
>> problem
>> with my web host's mail server?
>
> http://www.cpanel.net/docs/whm/Tweak_Settings.htm
> 
> * Track the origin of messages sent though the mail server by adding the
> X-Source headers (exim 4.34+ required) - Shows the source information of
> incoming emails including their source server and directory.
> 
>
> You can't store source server and directory information in 9 bytes. Header
> contains some corrupted data or some foreign text.
>
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Re: [SM-USERS] a) folders b) storing sent messages

2006-10-30 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, October 27, 2006 4:17 pm, Peter Kerville wrote:

> Sorry if these are dumb questions but I HAVE read the documentation:

But not the posting guidelines. ;)

> b) I want to set up folders to file (say) my incoming mail
> into 'General',
> 'Personal', 'Business' etc. but when I go to 'Folders' and try to create
> a folder, the pull-down menu doesn't allow me to specify that the new
> folder is to be a sub-folder of INBOX.  The pulldown menu simply
> says '(None)' and can't be encouraged to offer any other alternatives.

You can still create your folders. Your system's config is simply telling
you that they won't be sub-folders of Inbox. Why do they need to be?

The behaviour of folders, sub-folders and Inbox are greatly affected by
both the SM configuration that's been entered and the particular IMAP
server in use. UWIMAP, for example, won't allow a folder to contain both
folders and messages, so new folders therefore can't be sub-folders of
message-containing Inbox.

But, you haven't said what IMAP server is in use so we have no way to know
what the behaviour should be on your system or whether it has been
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[SM-USERS] Can buttons be changed to links?

2006-11-03 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
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Apache 1.3.37
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Server side sorting is enabled
Server side thread sorting is disabled
register_globals are off for my installation, but they are on for the rest
of the server


There are many buttons (e.g. form buttons) in SquirrelMail. For example,
in Messages lists: Move, Forward, Read, Unread, Delete, etc. On Compose
page: Signature, Addresses, Save Draft, etc.

Do they have to be buttons? Could they be displayed as links instead?

Links take up less space and will scale in size according to the browser's
font settings.





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Re: [SM-USERS] Can buttons be changed to links?

2006-11-03 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, November 3, 2006 9:43 am, Rainer Sokoll wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 09:34:54PM -0500, Alan in Toronto wrote:
>
>> There are many buttons (e.g. form buttons) in SquirrelMail. For example,
>> in Messages lists: Move, Forward, Read, Unread, Delete, etc. On Compose
>> page: Signature, Addresses, Save Draft, etc.
>>
>> Do they have to be buttons? Could they be displayed as links instead?


> As these buttons are used to submit form data, I think the answer is
> "No".

True, except even within SM sometimes those functions are invoked by
links. For example, on the message listing "Forward" is a button, but when
reading a message "Forward" is a link. Likewise, the Spam Buttons plugin
uses "Spam" and "Not Spam" buttons a message list, but does them as links
when reading a message.

Even if the function needs to appear as a button once, maybe that large
button could be shoved to the bottom of the page and the function called
with links in the more convenient part of the page.


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Re: [SM-USERS] Can buttons be changed to links?

2006-11-03 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, November 3, 2006 10:35 am, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:
>> True, except even within SM sometimes those functions are invoked by
>> links. For example, on the message listing "Forward" is a button, but
>> when
>>  reading a message "Forward" is a link.
>
> That's because you can forward one, or more than one, message from the
> message listing, but not when reading a message. A link won't be able to
> understand which checkboxes you've selected.
>
>> Likewise, the Spam Buttons plugin
>> uses "Spam" and "Not Spam" buttons a message list, but does them as
>> links when reading a message.
>
> Dito.
>
>> Even if the function needs to appear as a button once, maybe that large
>> button could be shoved to the bottom of the page and the function called
>> with links in the more convenient part of the page.
>
> When the template engine is done you can move the buttons where you want.
> Mabye it's even possible to use JavaScript to replace the buttons with
> links, but that's not going to happen in SquirrelMail 1.4.

Thanks Fredrik. That clarifies things. Good informative responses.




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[SM-USERS] Attachments sometimes unreadable when downloaded with SM

2006-11-06 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.6
PHP 4.4.4
UWIMAPD (IMAP4rev1 2004.357-cpanel)
mbox mail storage format
Apache 1.3.37
CentOS 4.4
Our webserver runs as nobody.
IMAP Server Address: 127.0.0.1
SMTP Server Address: 127.0.0.1
Server side sorting is enabled
Server side thread sorting is disabled
register_globals are off for my installation, but they are on for the rest
of the server

.htaccess entries for SquirrelMail directory:
php_value upload_max_filesize 14M
php_value post_max_size 25M
php_value max_execution_time 180
php_value max_input_time 180
php_flag register_globals off
php_value memory_limit 70M
SecFilterEngine Off
SecFilterScanPOST Off
Many plugins, including: Auto Complete; Folder Synch; Select Range; etc.

Sometimes attachments e-mailed to me are unreadable if I download them via
SquirrelMail. Usually these are JPG or graphics files such as AI or PDF. I
use the "Download" link in SM to save them to my PC.

Most attachment files work fine through that process, but periodically I
find that some are unreadable when downloaded via SquirrelMail. The files
are either corrupted or the header info is mangled such that the graphics
or image viewer can't load them. The problem is specific to certain
messages or attachments, even though other messages and attachments of the
same type from the same sender may open okay.

When this problem occurs, I then download the message using MS Outlook and
save the attachments from there. Those files are readable.

What might cause this inability to view attachments from certain messages
in SquirrelMail?




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Re: [SM-USERS] Attachments sometimes unreadable when downloaded with SM

2006-11-06 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Mon, November 6, 2006 9:51 am, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:

>> Sometimes attachments e-mailed to me are unreadable if I download them
>> via SquirrelMail. Usually these are JPG or graphics files such as AI or
>> PDF. I use the "Download" link in SM to save them to my PC.
>>
>> Most attachment files work fine through that process, but periodically I
>> find that some are unreadable when downloaded via SquirrelMail. The
>> files
>> are either corrupted or the header info is mangled such that the
>> graphics
>>  or image viewer can't load them. The problem is specific to certain
>> messages or attachments, even though other messages and attachments of
>> the same type from the same sender may open okay.
>>
>> When this problem occurs, I then download the message using MS Outlook
>> and save the attachments from there. Those files are readable.
>>
>> What might cause this inability to view attachments from certain
>> messages
>>  in SquirrelMail?
>
> Have you tried it in an installation without any plugins enabled, i.e. is
> the problem in a plugin or in the core?
>
> Sincerely,
> Fredrik

Good idea. No, I haven't. The problem is that this occurs randomly and
only occasionally, so I might have to run without plugins for weeks until
I again experienced a message with unreadable attachments.





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Re: [SM-USERS] Attachments sometimes unreadable when downloaded with SM

2006-11-06 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Mon, November 6, 2006 10:14 am, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
> On 11/6/06, Alan in Toronto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, November 6, 2006 9:51 am, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:
>> 
>> >> Sometimes attachments e-mailed to me are unreadable if I download
>> them
>> >> via SquirrelMail. Usually these are JPG or graphics files such as AI
>> or
>> >> PDF. I use the "Download" link in SM to save them to my PC.
>> >>
>> >> Most attachment files work fine through that process, but
>> periodically I
>> >> find that some are unreadable when downloaded via SquirrelMail. The
>> >> files
>> >> are either corrupted or the header info is mangled such that the
>> >> graphics
>> >>  or image viewer can't load them. The problem is specific to certain
>> >> messages or attachments, even though other messages and attachments
>> of
>> >> the same type from the same sender may open okay.
>> >>
>> >> When this problem occurs, I then download the message using MS
>> Outlook
>> >> and save the attachments from there. Those files are readable.
>> >>
>> >> What might cause this inability to view attachments from certain
>> >> messages
>> >>  in SquirrelMail?
>> >
>> > Have you tried it in an installation without any plugins enabled, i.e.
>> is
>> > the problem in a plugin or in the core?
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Fredrik
>>
>> Good idea. No, I haven't. The problem is that this occurs randomly and
>> only occasionally, so I might have to run without plugins for weeks
>> until
>> I again experienced a message with unreadable attachments.
>
> Why?  When you have the problem, go into config/config.php, comment
> out all the plugin lines by adding/*   before the first plugins
> line and*/ after the last one.

I'll do that. I was thinking of it differently, thinking that the message
could be affected even once I'd viewed it in SM. Your approach makes more
sense, to think of it as a download problem, so that plugins wouldn't need
to be disabled in advance of receiving such a message.

I'll try that next time I receive one. Thanks Paul and Fredrik!




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Re: [SM-USERS] Receiving emails sent to another address

2006-11-13 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Mon, November 13, 2006 10:49 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello, I set up the qmailrocks package, and I am having a problem with
> spam. I am getting emails sent to another address being dropped into my
> account. For example, I have the email account [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I am
> receiving emails sent to things like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I
> tried setting catchall to delete in qmailadmin, but this is still
> happening (if not more!). What can I do to stop these emails from being
> dropped into my mail account?

It sounds as though you're still receiving the "catchall" mail. On my
system, "delete" is not a valid destination for catchall. It should be
something valid and recognizable to the system, such as :fail: or
:blackhole:, depending upon the behaviour you want to occur.


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Re: [SM-USERS] mac mail and squirrel mail

2006-11-16 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail doesn't contain your mail. SquirrelMail is simply software to
view IMAP mail accounts. It is an IMAP mail client.

If you want to use a different web application or desktop software to
either view your mail account via IMAP or download your mail via POP, just
enter the appropriate settings (server names, account name, password,
etc.) into your software. If you don't know those settings, check the web
site or help desk of your mail account provider.


On Thu, November 16, 2006 11:50 am, Kathryn Jones wrote:
> I am not a web professional so am having difficulty negotiating the
> terms that would alllow me to import my squirrel mail into my mac
> mail program so that I can get all my mail from the same window...
>
> is squirrel mail a pop or an imap...
>
> incoming mail server would be??
>
> thanks!
> Kathryn Jones
> BiSi Entertainment LLC
> Producer/Writer "It's All Good"
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [SM-USERS] mac mail and squirrel mail

2006-11-16 Thread Alan in Toronto
1. This isn't spam. This is a discussion list to which you must have
subscribed.

2. Why are you asking me directly? E-mail the list.

3. List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users



On Thu, November 16, 2006 1:09 pm, darling wrote:
> how do I unsubscrible to this spam?


> - Original Message -
> From: "Alan in Toronto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [SM-USERS] mac mail and squirrel mail
>
>
>> SquirrelMail doesn't contain your mail. SquirrelMail is simply software
>> to
>> view IMAP mail accounts. It is an IMAP mail client.
>>
>> If you want to use a different web application or desktop software to
>> either view your mail account via IMAP or download your mail via POP,
>> just
>> enter the appropriate settings (server names, account name, password,
>> etc.) into your software. If you don't know those settings, check the
>> web
>> site or help desk of your mail account provider.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, November 16, 2006 11:50 am, Kathryn Jones wrote:
>>> I am not a web professional so am having difficulty negotiating the
>>> terms that would alllow me to import my squirrel mail into my mac
>>> mail program so that I can get all my mail from the same window...
>>>
>>> is squirrel mail a pop or an imap...
>>>
>>> incoming mail server would be??
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>> Kathryn Jones
>>> BiSi Entertainment LLC
>>> Producer/Writer "It's All Good"
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 917-992-2217
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Re: [SM-USERS] mac mail and squirrel mail

2006-11-16 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Thu, November 16, 2006 2:04 pm, darling wrote:
> Cause I keep getting emails from you and a bunch of others??

Get a clue. You're not getting e-mail from me, you're getting e-mail from
this list to which your address has subscribed.

> How do I get unsubscribed? UGH..]

I already gave you the link:
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Re: [SM-USERS] thanks for the help

2006-11-16 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Thu, November 16, 2006 4:16 pm, Kathryn Jones wrote:
> Alan... It was my intention to send to the list... which judging from
> the additional topics I did successfully... I apologize if however
> you are receiving a personal email.. and..

No, I don't think so. You posted properly to the list.

I did receive some messages directly off-list from some other poster, with
the name of "darling", who demanded to know how to unsubscribe from this
"spam". But yours came from the list, as they should. :)

> thank you!  You were a huge help and I managed to successfully import
> my squirrel mail

You're welcome. I'm glad to hear you were able to do what you wanted.




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Re: [SM-USERS] send warning to user before leaving while in the middle of composing

2006-11-23 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Thu, November 23, 2006 12:49 am, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
> On 11/22/06, Daminto Lie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I was wondering if anyone might be able to help me here.
>>
>> I've been noticing that my current squirrelmail 1.4.6 doesn't provide
>> any
>> warning when user who's in the middle of composing an email, tries to
>> get
>> out.
>>
>> I notice that with other webmail, it will ask you whether you want to
>> save
>> it or not before it allows you to move away from it.
>
> There are too many ways for the user to leave that the browser has
> little or no knowledge or control over.  The user can click any link
> on the top menu, any link on the left frame, navigate to another site
> by clicking a bookmark or typing something in the address bar, etc
> etc.
>
> Instead, the current best solution is to simply save the message contents:
>
> http://squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=8

I used to use this, as I think it's a great idea. I disabled it because it
seemed to cause performance problems. After a session had been running for
a while and a few messages composed, browser response would suffer and
would sometimes hang.




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[SM-USERS] Spam Buttons plugin with SpamAssassin on cPanel server?

2006-11-30 Thread Alan in Toronto
Is anyone using the Spam Buttons plugin with SpamAssassin on a cPanel
hosted server?

I've been trying to enable such a combination, but am having difficulty
getting the Spam Buttons plugin working. It could be due to cPanel's
implementation of SpamAssassin, so I'd like to hear from anyone who
has enabled this combination.









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[SM-USERS] Error code "2" for SpamAssassin and/or SA-learn

2006-11-30 Thread Alan in Toronto
Does anyone know what Error code "2" means for SpamAssassin and/or SA-learn?


I installed the Spam Buttons plugin for SquirrelMail.

I enablee Report-By-Shell Command Options. In the config file, I
enabled the following lines:

$is_spam_shell_command = '/usr/bin/sa-learn --spam';
$is_not_spam_shell_command = '/usr/bin/sa-learn --ham';

Note that those commands do work on our server when run outside
SquirrelMail. When SA Learn is run on a batch of messages in a folder, it
returns feedback like this:

spam SA Learn: Learned tokens from 9 message(s) (12 message(s) examined

We just haven't been able to achieve similar success when using the plugin.

I selected five messages and clicked the "Spam" button, and received this
feedback:

ERROR 2: Problem reporting message ID 392: Learned tokens from 0
message(s) (1 message(s) examined)

It always says it has learned from 0 messages, always examined only 1
message, always shows Error 2.

I've Googled extensively to find a list of SpamAssassin error codes, but
cannot find such a list.

Can anyone provide more detail on what "ERROR 2" signifies?



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Re: [SM-USERS] Error code "2" for SpamAssassin and/or SA-learn

2006-12-01 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Thu, November 30, 2006 6:05 pm, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
> On 11/30/06, Alan in Toronto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anyone know what Error code "2" means for SpamAssassin and/or
>> SA-learn?
>
> Why are you not asking on the sa-users list?

D'oh! You had posted: "> Maybe ask on the sa-users list then?" For some
reason my brain read that as posting on the SM users list. I'll search out
the sa-users list and post the error codes question there.

> What about followups to
> my suggestions on the last thread you had started (running the command
> as the web server user)?  I think you should keep that thread alive,
> as it is much more helpful to people trying to search the mailing list
> archives and follow a thread to its conclusion.

That thread is still active. I'm waiting for my SpamAssassin expert
colleague to return to complete further tests before posting results in
that thread. This thread here was simply to see if anyone had knowledge of
SA error codes, which no one in the Plugins list did.




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Re: [SM-USERS] CPU usage

2006-12-01 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, December 1, 2006 2:31 am, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:
>> we installed squirrelmail on our dedicated server. my account uses about
>> 20 filters on the INBOX
>> and also calls about 15 pop servers that are on the same server.
>>
>> we recognized that this procedure causes a lot of CPU usage.
>>
>> is there a "smarter" way to call the pop accounts or a way to decrease
>> CPU usage?!
>
> If you have administration rights at the server, you should try to
> implement this as server side solutions instead of doing them in
> SquirrelMail. I don't know what OS you're running at your server, so I'm
> going to assume UNIX (or something similar).
>
> One well known solution to fetch mail from other servers is a program
> called Fetchmail, and there's a SquirrelMail frontend for it.
> http://fetchmail.berlios.de/
> http://squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=50

What's the benefit of installing that plugin, rather than using Mail Fetch
which is included in SM core?



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Re: [SM-USERS] CPU usage

2006-12-01 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, December 1, 2006 10:54 am, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:
>>> One well known solution to fetch mail from other servers is a program
>>> called Fetchmail, and there's a SquirrelMail frontend for it.
>>> http://fetchmail.berlios.de/
>>> http://squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=50
>>>
>>
>> What's the benefit of installing that plugin, rather than using Mail
>> Fetch
>> which is included in SM core?
>
> The Mail Fetch plugin (included with SquirrelMail) makes SquirrelMail do
> all the filtering, i.e. it makes  PHP and the webserver do it. This
> consumes a lot or server resources. If you install Fetchmail at your
> server, the server can do it on its own without going through the
> webserver, i.e. it does the same thing, only better (more options) and
> without using as much server resources. The Mail Fetchmail plugin, which I
> linked to above, is just at front end which makes it possible for the end
> users to update their configuration files regaring the services that
> Fetchmail provides.

If there is no filtering involved, just pulling mail from external POP
accounts, is there any difference between Mail Fetch and Fetchmail? I use
Mail Fetch to grab mail from other POP accounts, but do not use SM for
filtering. (Any filtering is done on the server using other tools.) Given
that we only want to get POP mail, is there any advantage to using
Fetchmail over Mail Fetch?


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Re: [SM-USERS] CPU usage

2006-12-01 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, December 1, 2006 4:10 pm, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:
> One well known solution to fetch mail from other servers is a
> program called Fetchmail, and there's a SquirrelMail frontend for
> it. http://fetchmail.berlios.de/
> http://squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=50

 What's the benefit of installing that plugin, rather than using Mail
 Fetch which is included in SM core?
>>>
>>> The Mail Fetch plugin (included with SquirrelMail) makes SquirrelMail
>>> do all the filtering, i.e. it makes  PHP and the webserver do it. This
>>> consumes a lot or server resources. If you install Fetchmail at your
>>> server, the server can do it on its own without going through the
>>> webserver, i.e. it does the same thing, only better (more options) and
>>> without using as much server resources. The Mail Fetchmail plugin,
>>> which I linked to above, is just at front end which makes it possible
>>> for the end users to update their configuration files regaring the
>>> services that Fetchmail provides.
>>
>> If there is no filtering involved, just pulling mail from external POP
>> accounts, is there any difference between Mail Fetch and Fetchmail? I
>> use
>> Mail Fetch to grab mail from other POP accounts, but do not use SM for
>> filtering. (Any filtering is done on the server using other tools.)
>> Given
>> that we only want to get POP mail, is there any advantage to using
>> Fetchmail over Mail Fetch?
>
> I have to adjust my former statement. Both the Mail Fetch plugin and
> Fetchmail with the Mail Fetchmail plugin are about pulling mail from other
> servers, not about filtering.
>
> The advantage of using Fetchemail and the Mail Fetchmail plugin are higher
> speed and using less server resources, aka. better perfomance, compared to
> the Mail Fetch plugin. The Mail Fetch plugin should only be used as a last
> resort when you have no control over the server itself, for instance at a
> webhotel.

Boy, it would be helpful if that were documented somewhere. I'm sure that
most people use the Mail Fetch plugin because it is packaged with core.
There's nothing in its files or on the Plugins site to tell us that we
should install Mail Fetchmail instead.

Thanks Fredrik, that's very useful.

P.S. What is a webhotel?




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Re: [SM-USERS] SM Upgrade 1.43a - ?

2006-12-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, December 8, 2006 11:35 am, Dan Goldfield wrote:
> I am a little behind on my upgrades and am evaluating upgrading.
> I see 1.4.9a is released and also 1.5.1
>
> Should I move to 1.5.1 or go to 1.4.9a first.
>
> I'm also a little rusty on upgrades...can someone point me to the how-to
> pages.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan

1.4.9a is latest stable release. Upgrade to that. 1.5.1 is in the
development tree, so it's not guaranteed to be stable.

Lots of install and upgrade info at http://www.squirrelmail.org/
For example:
http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/en_US/UpgradingSquirrelMail
http://www.squirrelmail.org/docs/admin/admin-4.html






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Re: [SM-USERS] User Idendity gets reset to default every few days/weeks

2006-12-08 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, December 8, 2006 11:32 am, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've got the following problem: My IMAP-server has two e-mail addresses
> configured for my domain, say [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 
> first one
> is a catchall-address.
> With address a everything works fine.
> When I logged on to Squirrelmail with [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the very first
> time, I was surprised to find unter Options/Personal Information the very
> same data that I had entered for a! As Email Address [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
> defined, so whatever I sent with Squirrelmail had [EMAIL PROTECTED] as sender.
> Incomin mail was treated correctly, I only see the mail folder of b.
> So I changed the Personal Information, entered name, signature and
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] as EMail address. Now everything works fine. But: After a 
> few
> days (sometimes weeks) this automtically gets reset to the personal
> information of [EMAIL PROTECTED] User b is very surprised, as suddenly his
> emails have [EMAIL PROTECTED] as sender address! After changing this back to 
> b,
> everything works, until after a few days it reverts to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> again!
>
> Apparently this does not only concern the Personal Information, but all
> the settings made by b. We set a different display theme, but it also got
> reset the same day that the Personal Information was reset.
>
> At first I thought some update I did on the server would have caused this.
> But now within a few days the settings got reset without me touching the
> server one single time!
>
> Is this already know? What can I do about it?
>
> My config:
>
> Squirrelmail: 1.4.4
> IMAP: courier-imap 3.0.8-4sarge
> PHP: 4.3.10-18
> Apache 2.0.54
> Debian Sarge system (all packages installed via aptitude)
>
> installed plugins:
> calendar
> delete_move_next
> message_details
> mail_fetch
> newmail
> abook_take
> filters
> ldifimport
>
>
> --
> Gruß/Rgds,
> Carsten


Is it possible that these users are logging into SquirrelMail on the same
computer? If userA is logged into SquirrelMail on a PC, and userB comes
along and logs in on the same PC without first logging out userA, then
there can be an exchange of user prefs. This is a long-standing issue, so
users need to know to never have two SquirrelMail sessions running on the
same computer concurrently.




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Re: [SM-USERS] Delete

2006-12-11 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Mon, December 11, 2006 4:46 pm, Sylvia Senensky wrote:
> Please delete me from you list.  Sylvia

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[SM-USERS] SM doesn't match upper-case address to lower-case identity

2006-12-14 Thread Alan in Toronto
SM 1.4.9a
(I won't include my usual list of installation details, as I think it's
not relevant for this issue.)

I allow use of Advanced Identities, so each user can have multiple
identities. (Multiple addresses, names, etc.)

One of the great features of SM is that as long as each address has an
identity, when replying SM automatically inserts the same FROM address as
the original message to me was addressed TO. IOW, if someone sends to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], when I reply then that address will be used as the FROM
address. If someone sends to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then as long as I have
an identify for that SM will insert that as the FROM address when I reply.

Problem: SM seems to get fooled by mail addresses in all caps. Even though
I have an identity for [EMAIL PROTECTED], if someone mails to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then when I reply SM inserts my default identity in
FROM instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems that SM doesn't match the
all-caps address to the lower-case identity even though they are the same
address. Unfortunately French companies often put mail addresses in all
caps, so this is a problem for me.

Can SM be tweaked to recognize identity addresses irrespective of case?








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Re: [SM-USERS] Installing SquirrelMail When Horde Is Already Installed

2007-01-03 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Wed, January 3, 2007 7:05 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I already have Horde installed as a default on my Plesk server... Any ideas 
> how to
> install SM over the top of this?
>
> Cheers,
> Tom


Why do you need to install SquirrelMail "over the top" of Horde? (I'm not even
entirely sure what that means.) A server can contain installations of 
SquirrelMail
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Re: [SM-USERS] Installing SquirrelMail When Horde Is Already Installed

2007-01-05 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Thu, January 4, 2007 10:58 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I mean install it over the top, as in in replace of Horde. If I install two 
> webmail
> apps. Horde & SquirrelMail... When I user goes to the webmail.theredomain.com 
> won't
> it open up Horde?

That depends entirely on your setup. If the index.html or index.php file in that
directory sends visitors to a Horde login, then change it to point to a 
SquirrelMail
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Re: [SM-USERS] download instal

2007-02-05 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Sun, February 4, 2007 7:54 pm, Rosemary Chance wrote:
> Dear Squirrel mail,
> I love your mail (I use 1.4.3a) which I've used all over the world but now
> I'm v busy & I need the messages to come in in order (they turn up
> anywhere on the list).

Try clicking on the little icons next to the headings in the message list. You 
can
sort by From, Subject or Date. You'll want to sort by Date, and you may need to
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Re: [SM-USERS] Personal Information automatically changes

2007-02-06 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Tue, February 6, 2007 8:46 am, Nabin Limbu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When multiple users access their webmail account from same computer then
> "Personal Information" of webmail automatically changes to previous users
> unknowingly while trying to compose new mail. How can I restrict or avoid
> this.

This is a known issue. The problem occurs when two SquirrelMail sessions, with
different users, are logged in concurrently on a particular computer. You must
educate your users to logout of their SquirrelMail session before leaving the
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[SM-USERS] OT: PHP include path question

2007-04-13 Thread Alan in Toronto
Sorry, this is OT, but I'm a complete newbie to PHP and I know there are some 
smart
PHP coders in this group. If you would indulge me, could you please let me know 
the
best way to define paths for includes.

Currently I'm working on a site that is located in a sub-directory of my web 
hosting
account. When it's complete, I'll move it to the server of the non-profit group 
I'm
doing this for, where presumably it will live at the web root (directly under 
the
domain name). Ideally I'd like to have to change some central variable rather 
than
have to change paths on every page or in every script.

I found the attached posts in various PHP forums. I'm sure you are familiar with
many of those approaches. Please help my understanding and/or let me know what 
is
the best approach to use.

Thanks very much for any assistance, and for understanding and allowing an
occasional OT post.


someone in a forum wrote:

PHP should set its DOCUMENT_ROOT variable to the root folder, so try using the 
following form of include statements, and that should work on most servers I 
believe.

CODE

The DOCUMENT_ROOT variable should automatically always get the right path to 
your root html folder on the server, and from there you know the file structure.




someone else wrote:

The first file included in every script is a small config file (in the
same directory as the script itself, so it's guaranteed to be found in a
default PHP setup) which sets the include paths. In that file I have
something like this:

ini_set('include_path', ini_get('include_path') . ':' .
realpath('relative/path/to/include_directory'));

Because of the 'realpath' function, which translates relative paths to
absolute paths, I can copy the directory tree of my application to
another machine and everything will keep working, even if the directory
structure 'above' my application is different.




someone else wrote:

Include "paths.inc" into every file. The file
"paths.inc" contains variables each containing the path to a directory,
relative to the directory that particular "paths.inc" file is in.

For example, I have a paths.inc file in the root directory that has these
variables:
$includesDir = 'includes/';
$cssDir = 'css/';
$jsDir = 'js/';

I also have one in a "photos" subdirectory that has these variables:
$includesDir = '../includes/';
$cssDir = '../css/';
$jsDir = '../js/';

That way the relative paths to several directories can be written to any
file anywhere in my site's hierarchy.





Here are the posts I found via Google:


someone wrote:

Where you left that space for the menu, include this piece of code:


Then save the file. As long as you have the correct path to your menu.php code 
this will work once you upload both pages to your PHP compatible server.

I don't suggest using the previous code since it relies on relative paths, and 
since you will want to use these page includes across your site you will want 
to use absolute paths.

To use absolute paths, use the following code where the first slash indicates 
starting from the domain name:


To be efficient, you should make a folder where all your pages indended for 
including will go. Name the folder includes or incl or template or snippets or 
whatever you would like.



someone else said:

The path you specify in a PHP include or require statement is a path in the web 
server's file system, not a URL. The path is relative to the current page, or 
to the 'include_path' variable from php.ini.
If you know the file system path to the directory where your include file is, 
you can do this:
Code:


The $separator is OS-dependent; usually colon on unix/Linux systems and 
semi-colon on Windows.

You can find the file system path to your root directory by examining a server 
variable:
Code:




someone else said:
Say your web root is /path/to/webroot/, and you have a site served from 
/path/to/webroot/mysite/, you just create a folder below the web root for your 
includes, such as /path/to/includes/

In your PHP files, e.g. /path/to/webroot/mysite/index.php, you can include 
files from that folder using:

include "/path/to/includes/myinclude.inc.php";

or

include "../../includes/myinclude.inc.php";

Personally I’d recommend the former method - using relative paths can quickly 
get messy in more complex sites. I would also declare a global variable 
containing the include path (or paths), which makes moving to another server or 
another location on your server painless.

@Mike: Hopefully that will make it clear. No-one can access myinclude.inc.php 
directly, since it resides outside the web root (i.e. 
http://mysite.com/index.php will include the file, but 
http://mysite.com/includes/myinclude.inc.php doesn’t exist).




someone else said:
There is another, easier way to access an include directory outside of the root 
directory. In the php.ini file is a section called “Paths and Directories”. In 
there is a parameter called “include_path”. This sets all of the directories 
where the PHP inter

Re: [SM-USERS] OT: PHP include path question

2007-04-14 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, April 13, 2007 8:52 pm, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
> On 4/13/07, Alan in Toronto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Currently I'm working on a site that is located in a sub-directory of my web
>> hosting
>> account. When it's complete, I'll move it to the server of the non-profit 
>> group
>> I'm
>> doing this for, where presumably it will live at the web root (directly 
>> under the
>> domain name). Ideally I'd like to have to change some central variable 
>> rather than
>> have to change paths on every page or in every script.

> Much of this depends on WHAT you are working on.

It's a script to enable the site navigation menu to live in a separate HTML 
file,
currently Menu.htm. I want to keep most of the PHP in a separate file or files, 
such
as currently in Menu.php. That way the content web pages are mostly straight 
HTML
with just a small amount of PHP at the top such as the includes.

Each web page will ultimately grab Menu.htm via PHP include. This enables easier
maintenance of the navigation menu, as only that one file needs editing when new
pages are added or links changed. When the file is included, PHP will also 
identify
the currently-viewed page by writing an attribute into the Anchor of the nav 
menu
link to that currently-viewed page.

> It also depends where you are needing to use this kind of code.

The include is inserted in each content web page where I want the navigation 
menu to
appear. It would be good to do this in such a way that the include_once 
statement
always uses the same path, so that it doesn't need to be different for web pages
calling the include from varying levels of nested directories. IOW, the site 
will
have content pages in directories and sub-directories and it would simplify site
creation and addititions if the include_once line were always the same and did 
not
have to change depending upon what directory level the content web page resides 
in.

Using your "home" directory variable idea, at the top of each content web page
(before the doctype declaration) I have this (yes, I realize I can name SM_PATH
whatever I want, but for now that makes it obvious to me what I'm doing and 
that it
was your suggestion):



Later in the page, where I want the menu to appear, I have this:



Menu.php contains, in addition to other code, this line:
$nav = file_get_contents("CSSetc/Menu.htm");

Menu.htm is just the navigation menu, HTML only.

> define your own "home" directory variable (constant is better)
> and use it EVERYWHERE you refer to a file in PHP.

> here is how SM does it.  Look at /src/compose.php:
> First thing it does is define the relative path to the main
> application directory.  After that, all files are included using that
> constant.

/src/compose.php contains:
define('SM_PATH','../');

/plugins/newmail/newmail.php contains:
define('SM_PATH','../../');

Thanks, I've now added something similar to my pages, and it works, so that's 
one
issue you've solved. So, I need to ensure that in that "define" line I add 
another
"../" each time a page is in a lower-level sub-directory. I'm not missing 
something,
that there's some automated way to accomplish that, am I? I assume that when 
adding
that "define" line to each page that you must first know how many directory 
levels
deep the page will be, so as to add the right number of  "../"

> if you have things like links and image tags in plain HTML, then just
> make sure all the files those point to are done with RELATIVE links.

Yes, that's what I always do. e.g. I always use references such as
 link rel="stylesheet" href="../../CSSetc/Mainsite.css"
That's fine for linking a stylesheet or images, but is a problem in the Menu.htm
because it gets included into content web pages that live in varying directory
levels. So a relative link in Menu.htm that works from one directory deep 
doesn't
work from two directories deep. Your sqm_baseuri() idea might be that way to 
deal
with that.

> If you need to calculate hrefs and things like that in the PHP code,
> it can be a little more complicated, but doesn't have to be for simple
> sites.  See how SM calculates $base_uri in the sqm_baseuri() function
> in strings.php in STABLE (note that $PHP_SELF is constructed in the
> function php_self()).  In most simple cases, you can simply include a
> "startup" file (after you define the constant pointing to your main
> app dir per above), and in that startup file, just set another
> constant that contains the base URI for use in hrefs and such things
> throughout the code.  Then you only have to change that value when you
> move the site.

Sorry, could you spell that out a little more 

Re: [SM-USERS] email problems

2007-04-18 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, March 30, 2007 8:27 am, john huff wrote:
> I have been using squirrel mail as a way to access my email away from the 
> offfice.
> It has worked great. I am getting an error and not allowed to do anything 
> now. the
> error is below.
>
>
> Query: COPY 12984 "INBOX"
> Reason Given: Over quota
>
> Can you help me with this problem?

I could be way off here, but is it possible that your mail account is near or 
over
its assigned quota?

Try deleting some messages. If you can't, because in IMAP a message must be 
copied
to "move" it to the Trash, then disable Trash so the message deletes.

If you don't think you have sufficient messages and attachments in your account 
to
reach quota, then perhaps you have a spam folder or automated spambox that has
gotten rather full.


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Re: [SM-USERS] unable to pull up sqirrelmail

2007-04-18 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Wed, April 18, 2007 1:55 pm, Andrew Garrity wrote:
> I was trying to access squirrelmail as usual and all of the sudden it won't
> pull up.  the service is running on my server and the server is running
> fine...what should I do?

You should check the posting guidelines. Think about it: how can anyone help 
you,
how can anyone possibly know what the problem is? You've provided no information
whatsoever about your server, the config, even your version of SM. I don't even 
know
what "it won't pull up" means: it won't login; it won't load the login page; it 
logs
in but won't display the Inbox; it won't pull up to the curb and pick you up?






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Re: [SM-USERS] ERROR: Could not append message to mail/sent & ERROR:Could not complete request.

2007-04-19 Thread Alan in Toronto

> "Alan in Toronto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 19/04/2007 13:29
>
>
> To: "Deborah Roelfsema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc:
> Subject:Re: [SM-USERS] ERROR: Could not append message to 
> mail/sent
> & ERROR:Could
> not complete request.
>
>
> On Wed, April 18, 2007 9:37 pm, Deborah Roelfsema wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I really need your help, I have been asked to answer and reply to emails
>> for a voluntary organisation (none of them are computer literate and I'm
>> not much better).  I am having a lot of trouble with it at the moment as
>> it wont let me delete any of the spam and there is one email in there
> that
>> has attachments that it wont let me delete either, it wont let me send
> at
>> the moment either.  All round, I am buggered. I know that you request
> that
>> I supply all the details, but I really dont know how to find them (I'm
> SO
>> sorry), I just don't know what to do.  I am desperate for help.  These
> are
>> the errors I am getting;
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ERROR:
>>
>>
>> ERROR : Could not complete request.
>> Query: EXPUNGE
>> Reason Given: EXPUNGE failed: Unable to extend mailbox: Disk quota
>> exceeded
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ERROR:
>>
>>
>> ERROR : Could not append message to mail/Sent.
>> Server responded: APPEND failed: Error finishing scratch file: Disk
> quota
>> exceeded
>> Solution: Remove unneccessary messages from your folder and start with
>> your Trash folder.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by
> (output
>> started at /var/www/squirrelmail/functions/page_header.php:31) in
>> /var/www/squirrelmail/src/compose.php on line 406
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ERROR:
>>
>>
>> ERROR : Could not complete request.
>> Query: COPY 123 "mail/Trash"
>> Reason Given: COPY failed: Message copy failed: Disk quota exceeded
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope this helps.  Please tell me if there is anything (with
>> instructions) I may be able to do to help.
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>
> I think you need to delete mail to reduce the quota usage. Begin with some
> really
> tiny messages with no attachments, because you might have enough space to
> delete
> them. Then empty the trash and delete some more small messages, gradually
> working
> your way up while periodically emptying the trash.
>
> If you're already right at or exceeding quota, then you or your SM
> administrator
> needs to change the config so that you won't have a Trash folder but
> instead
> deletions will actually get immediately deleted.
>
> Also check to see if you have a spambox active, which may itself be pretty
> full and
> contributing to your quota usage. On my host we see this happening all the
> time:
> people enable SpamAssassin and the Spambox, but forget to ever check the
> Spambox.
> Consequently the Spambox gradually eats up more of the available quota but
> the user
> has no idea why.


On Thu, April 19, 2007 12:22 am, Deborah Roelfsema wrote:
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> How do I check to see if spambox is active?  It wont even let me delete
> the ones in the trash folder.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Debbie Roelfsema

1. Please keep replies on-list. That way others can benefit. Also, if you write 
only
to me, I may not have the answer whereas other list members may.
2. This group prefers bottom posting, so a sequence of communication may be 
followed.

I don't know how to check if your spambox is active, because you didn't tell us
anything about your system. If it's cPanel, then you access the Spam Assassin 
page
where there's a function "Clear Spam Box", or FTP to see if a spam folder has 
been
created in the mail directory. Or use POP3 to check the spam box, just add 
"/spam"
(without the quotes) to the end of your POP3 login. (Example: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/spam)

You can't delete messages because you're at quota, and in IMAP a delete is 
actually
a copy followed by a delete. You have no available quota left, so there's no 
room
for the copy, which is why I suggested you start with the smallest message in 
case
you have a tiny bit of room remaining.

I suggest you talk to your administrator, as he could disable the trash folder 
and
also check for a spam box.

Another way to clear the inbox to free up space is to download messages via 
POP3.




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Re: [SM-USERS] OT: PHP include path question

2007-04-25 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Wed, April 25, 2007 12:16 am, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
> Apologies for the late reply.


> On 4/14/07, Alan in Toronto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, April 13, 2007 8:52 pm, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
>> > On 4/13/07, Alan in Toronto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Currently I'm working on a site that is located in a sub-directory of my 
>> >> web
>> >> hosting
>> >> account. When it's complete, I'll move it to the server of the non-profit 
>> >> group
>> >> I'm
>> >> doing this for, where presumably it will live at the web root (directly 
>> >> under
>> the
>> >> domain name). Ideally I'd like to have to change some central variable 
>> >> rather
>> than
>> >> have to change paths on every page or in every script.
>>
>> > Much of this depends on WHAT you are working on.
>>
>> It's a script to enable the site navigation menu to live in a separate HTML 
>> file,
>> currently Menu.htm. I want to keep most of the PHP in a separate file or 
>> files,
>> such
>> as currently in Menu.php. That way the content web pages are mostly straight 
>> HTML
>> with just a small amount of PHP at the top such as the includes.
>>
>> Each web page will ultimately grab Menu.htm via PHP include. This enables 
>> easier
>> maintenance of the navigation menu, as only that one file needs editing when 
>> new
>> pages are added or links changed. When the file is included, PHP will also
>> identify
>> the currently-viewed page by writing an attribute into the Anchor of the nav 
>> menu
>> link to that currently-viewed page.
>
> FWIW, have a look at SM's php_self() function to see how we try to get
> the current page request in a reliable manner.  That value is useful
> when you need to do things like indicate what page is currently being
> viewed.
>
>> > It also depends where you are needing to use this kind of code.
>>
>> The include is inserted in each content web page where I want the navigation 
>> menu
>> to
>> appear. It would be good to do this in such a way that the include_once 
>> statement
>> always uses the same path, so that it doesn't need to be different for web 
>> pages
>> calling the include from varying levels of nested directories. IOW, the site 
>> will
>> have content pages in directories and sub-directories and it would simplify 
>> site
>> creation and addititions if the include_once line were always the same and 
>> did not
>> have to change depending upon what directory level the content web page 
>> resides
>> in.
>
> Each page request is stateless, so you always have to make some sort
> of determination as to where other files are that you need for every
> page requested.  That's, in the SM world, the determination of SM_PATH
> near the beginning of each page request.
>
>> Using your "home" directory variable idea, at the top of each content web 
>> page
>> (before the doctype declaration) I have this (yes, I realize I can name 
>> SM_PATH
>> whatever I want, but for now that makes it obvious to me what I'm doing and 
>> that
>> it
>> was your suggestion):
>>
>> > define('SM_PATH','../');
>
> Right.  This has to, of course, be maintained on a per-file basis
> unless you do something more complex like SM 1.5.x does.
>
>> $file_name = basename($_SERVER['PHP_SELF']);
>
> If you don't need to worry about portability, this is fine, but see my
> comment about php_self().  I'd also recommend a better variable name.
>
>> include_once(SM_PATH . 'CSSetc/Menu.php');
>> ?>
>>
>> Later in the page, where I want the menu to appear, I have this:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Menu.php contains, in addition to other code, this line:
>> $nav = file_get_contents("CSSetc/Menu.htm");
>>
>> Menu.htm is just the navigation menu, HTML only.
>
> Then there is no reason to go round-about by reading the file into a
> variable and echoing it.  Remove all this stuff and simply use one
> line where the menu should be output:
>
> 
>
> If the menu needs any dynamic stuff, make it a php file.
>
>> > define your own "home" directory variable (constant is better)
>> > and use it EVERYWHERE you refer to a file in PHP.
>>
>> > here is how SM does it.  Look at /src/compose.php:
>> > First thing it does is define the relative path to the main
>> >

Re: [SM-USERS] Preferences overwritten problem

2007-04-29 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Sat, April 28, 2007 7:45 pm, Adam Forsyth wrote:

> The problem involves 2 users.   User 1 will suddenly realize that when
> they send mail their mail is being sent with the name and email address
> of User 2 on the from line of the message.  When I look at
> /usr/local/apache2/htdocs/squirrelmail-1.4.8/data/prefs/user1.pref I
> find that the original contents of the user 1's preference file is gone
> and replaced with contents that match those of user 2.
>
> When we question the user that reports the problem, they always know the
> second user, and can think of some scenario where the two of them might
> have been logged in from the same computer at the same time.  So I think
> the problem is that when 2 squirrel mail sessions start from 2 different
> users using the same browser on the same PC, the 2 sessions get mixed up.

That is correct. This is a known issue. Do not allow two concurrent users on the
same client, otherwise user prefs can be overwritten or corrupted.

> What I don't understand is why we're seeing so many more cases like this
> now that we're running 1.4.8, than we have with any of the other
> versions of squirrelmail that we've run over the past 6 years or so that
> we've been using squirrelmail.  I've seen this problem periodically
> before the upgrade (maybe I'd hear about and fix 1 or 2 cases a year.)
> Since the upgrade, I'm fixing at least 1 case a week.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions on a solution to this problem or a way to
> make it happen less frequently?  We of course tell each student that
> reports this problem that it happens when 2 users log into squirrelmail
> from the same compter at the same time, and tell them to make sure that
> the first user logs off before a second user logs on.

AFAIK, that is the only solution. You might search the archives in case someone 
has
offered a method that auto-logouts the previous session when a new login begins 
on
the same client.


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Re: [SM-USERS] switching hosting companies

2007-05-02 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Tue, May 1, 2007 9:53 am, Joe Macri wrote:
> Hello all
> we are going to switch to a different hosting company, we have the squirrel
> mail and plug ins all set to go on the new server. The problem is, we need to
> transfer mail from all the folders on the current server over to the same
> folders on the new server. How can this be done?

It depends upon the type of mail format you have, which you didn't specify, but
usually mail folders can be transferred. I've done it a couple of times.

> And, what will happen to the
> mail during the time it takes to make the DNS switch?

Again, you haven't given us any specifics, so I'll have to give you some general
steps. Much depends upon whether your primary nameserver is on the same box as 
your
domain, web site, mail, etc., (such as in a cPanel host) or whether you use an
external box for primary nameserver.

1. At least a week prior to the move, you should edit the DNS zone file to 
reduce
the SOA values. That will help to reduce propagation delays when you do make the
switch.

2. When you're ready to use the new server, edit the domain's "A" record in the 
DNS
zone on the old server to specify the new IP. That will also assist 
propagation, as
traffic hitting the old box will be given the new IP.

3. If you use personal nameservers, you'll have to update them with the new IPs
through a panel at your domain registrar.

4. Just in case you do have some mail end up on the old box after the move, 
check
your mailboxes on the old server for a week or so either via SquirrelMail or 
via IP
address rather than hostname.

I could provide more information, but without knowing your specifics I can't 
know
what to tell you. If you follow the steps I provided, that will help you 
execute a
seamless move.


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Re: [SM-USERS] OT: PHP include path question

2007-05-04 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, May 4, 2007 3:07 am, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:
>> Also, is there a reason why PHP comments in SM files begin with slash and
>> two asterisks?
>
> "/**" is for extracting documentation with phpDocumentor [1]. Comments
> using "//" or "/*" are ignored by phpDocumentor.
>
> Sincerely,
> Fredrik
>
>
> [1] http://phpdoc.org/

I was not familiar with phpDocumentor.
Thanks Fredrik!



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Re: [SM-USERS] switching hosting companies

2007-05-09 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Wed, May 9, 2007 1:54 pm, InterSense, inc. wrote:
> Hello Alan
> Thank you for your help. We are ready to move on this now. They use Squirrel
> Mail on their current server, and I have it installed and ready to go on my
> end.
>
> So my question really is how to move the folders and mail from one squirrel
> mail system to another?. What other types of things would you need me to
> specify? My set up is I have a mail server, a domain name server, and web
> site server. It is leased dedicated hosting through Peer1. I can certainly
> find out any specifications that you might need on this.
>
> Thank you again for your help,
>
> Joe macri

It's best if you keep the replies on the list, for two reasons: you may benefit 
from
the expertise of several list members, rather than just me, and; others can 
benefit
from the help provided.

You still haven't provided any detail about your setup, not even the items that 
I
raised in my earlier response. For example, if your existing mail format is the 
same
as your new server's mail format, and if it's something like maildir whereby 
each
message is a file, you may be able to just do a file transfer. You had asked 
about
DNS delays, and the steps I provided will assist with that.

More information usually leads to better help. The Posting Guidelines may be 
useful.


> - Original Message -
> From: "Alan in Toronto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [SM-USERS] switching hosting companies
>
>
>> On Tue, May 1, 2007 9:53 am, Joe Macri wrote:
>>> Hello all
>>> we are going to switch to a different hosting company, we have the
>>> squirrel
>>> mail and plug ins all set to go on the new server. The problem is, we
>>> need to
>>> transfer mail from all the folders on the current server over to the same
>>> folders on the new server. How can this be done?
>>
>> It depends upon the type of mail format you have, which you didn't
>> specify, but
>> usually mail folders can be transferred. I've done it a couple of times.
>>
>>> And, what will happen to the
>>> mail during the time it takes to make the DNS switch?
>>
>> Again, you haven't given us any specifics, so I'll have to give you some
>> general
>> steps. Much depends upon whether your primary nameserver is on the same
>> box as your
>> domain, web site, mail, etc., (such as in a cPanel host) or whether you
>> use an
>> external box for primary nameserver.
>>
>> 1. At least a week prior to the move, you should edit the DNS zone file to
>> reduce
>> the SOA values. That will help to reduce propagation delays when you do
>> make the
>> switch.
>>
>> 2. When you're ready to use the new server, edit the domain's "A" record
>> in the DNS
>> zone on the old server to specify the new IP. That will also assist
>> propagation, as
>> traffic hitting the old box will be given the new IP.
>>
>> 3. If you use personal nameservers, you'll have to update them with the
>> new IPs
>> through a panel at your domain registrar.
>>
>> 4. Just in case you do have some mail end up on the old box after the
>> move, check
>> your mailboxes on the old server for a week or so either via SquirrelMail
>> or via IP
>> address rather than hostname.
>>
>> I could provide more information, but without knowing your specifics I
>> can't know
>> what to tell you. If you follow the steps I provided, that will help you
>> execute a
>> seamless move.
>>
>>
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Re: [SM-USERS] how to implement https in squirrelmail

2007-05-15 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Tue, May 15, 2007 2:01 am, Daminto Lie wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to be able to set up https for the squirrelmail i have so that user's
> username and password are securely protected. I wonder if anyone who might 
> have done
> this, would like to share some ideas with me.
>
> I've got squirrelmail 1.4.6 version and my machine runs on windows XP Pro.
>
> Thank you in advance

There are plugins to achieve this, so check the plugins page. I don't use a 
plugin
for this purpose.

I do it by redirecting traffic for SquirrelMail login to an https login, via an
.htaccess file:

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^a.mydomain.com$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.a.mydomain.com$
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ https://mydomain.com/s/src/login.php [R=301,L]



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Re: [SM-USERS] Strange login

2007-05-16 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Wed, May 16, 2007 6:02 am, Jevos, Peter wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Randomly I login with username [EMAIL PROTECTED]' and password that
> matchs to login [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> SM logged me in and created another pref file [EMAIL PROTECTED]'.pref
> I tried to use another characters like " or \ sm logged me in also and
> created another pref files like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]".pref
> When I used character ; or / it didn't logged me in ( bad username or
> pasword )
>
> Do you know about this issue ?

I have seen something similar a couple of years ago. I don't think this is a
SquirrelMail issue.

Your mail server's config determines what logins are acceptable. If you are 
able to
login to SM using extra characters, that's because your mail server is allowing
that.

You will see extra prefs files because SM must create one for each login. If you
change from lower case to upper case and your mail server still enables the 
login,
SM will create a new prefs file matching the new text case.


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Re: [SM-USERS] moving folders to trash in courier

2007-05-18 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Fri, May 18, 2007 7:47 am, Bryan Loniewski wrote:
>>From the 1.4.9 Changelog, one of the entries is "Allowed moving
> folders to trash in courier." I can't figure out what this actually
> allows me to do? Can someone clarify (how would I move a whole folder
> to the trash, instead of having to select all messages?) I'm
> confused..

On the "menu bar" of links/functions at the top of the right-hand frame:
 Folders | Delete Folder


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Re: [SM-USERS] Smail to grab mail from other accounts?

2007-05-24 Thread Alan in Toronto


> On 5/23/07, Paul Kelso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello, everyone,
>>
>> I am wondering after searching the support, plugins and other pages on the
>> SquirrelMail website, if SMail can be used as a master email server. By that
>> I mean, make a centralized area for all email accounts. Such as go to the
>> various accounts like aol account, your own domain account, gmail account,
>> and grab all the new email from those accounts, then when you sign into
>> SMail, its all there in one place.
>> If not, do you know of a file (php or other) that can do the above?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Paul

On Thu, May 24, 2007 2:22 pm, Wayt Gibbs wrote:
> Paul:
>
> If you run SquirrelMail on a Linux box, you can use the program Fetchmail to
> collect mail from other accounts feed it to your IMAP server.
>
> Otherwise, have a look at the Mail Fetch plugin (
> http://www.squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=17), which allows users to
> manually retrieve messages from POP3 mail accounts into their
> SquirrelMail-managed IMAP account. I run SquirrelMail on a personal Windows
> XP machine and use this plugin to periodically collect mail sent to my ISP.
> As far as I know, there is no way to make the plugin download mail
> automatically, unfortunately--it requires a user to click the "Fetch Mail"
> button in SquirrelMail to initiate the transfer.

Not so. It can indeed be automated, as that functionality is already built in 
to the
Mail Fetchmail plugin with these options:

  Check mail at login
  Check mail at folder refresh










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[SM-USERS] concurrent SM sessions on a single client box - different browsers?

2007-07-18 Thread Alan in Toronto
SquirrelMail 1.4.9a

I know that a well-known issue is that you can't have concurrent SM sessions on 
a
single client box. Doing so can result in corrupted or miswritten pref files.

Can the problem be avoided if the concurrent SM sessions on the single box are 
in
two different browsers? e.g. one account logged in via SquirrelMail in Internet
Explorer; the other account via SquirrelMail in Firefox.

Has anyone tested that situation, or knows whether it avoids the problem or is 
still
vulnerable to the problem?




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Re: [SM-USERS] concurrent SM sessions on a single client box - different browsers?

2007-07-18 Thread Alan in Toronto
On Wed, July 18, 2007 4:03 am, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
> On 7/18/07, Alan in Toronto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> SquirrelMail 1.4.9a
>>
>> I know that a well-known issue is that you can't have concurrent SM sessions 
>> on a
>> single client box. Doing so can result in corrupted or miswritten pref files.
>>
>> Can the problem be avoided if the concurrent SM sessions on the single box 
>> are in
>> two different browsers?
>
> Yes
>
>> e.g. one account logged in via SquirrelMail in Internet
>> Explorer; the other account via SquirrelMail in Firefox.
>>
>> Has anyone tested that situation, or knows whether it avoids the problem or 
>> is
>> still vulnerable to the problem?
>
> It works.


Thanks Paul. Succinct, accurate and helpful, as usual. I'll use Firefox or 
Opera in
conjunction with IE when I need to run concurrent sessions.

Hope your summer is going well.





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