[opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

2010-03-31 Thread L. Christopher Bird
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Gareth Nelson wrote:

>
> LL as copyright holder (or joint holder) can change the GPL with extra
> restrictions as much as they like - so long as they make it clear.
>
>
Sure they can, but they must call this license something OTHER than GPL. If
they want to restrict freedoms granted by the GPL, then it ceases to be GPL
and becomes a new beast. Licensing under GPL which LL has done in the past
gives developers certain rights in the use of that code.  Some freedoms and
rights that the TPV curtails.

LL is free to license their code however they want. What they can't do is
gut the parts of GPL they disagree with and still call it GPL.

By licensing the viewer under GPL and the preamble to the TPV seems to
indicate this is their desire to continue to do so, implies a certain
promise to allow certain things to be done with the software.  If LL wants
to restrict or take away rights granted by the GPL THEY MUST NOT CALL THEIR
LICENSE GPL OR USE THE GPL PREAMBLE IN THEIR LICENSE.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ModifyGPL

 -- ZenMondo
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Re: [opensource-dev] Malicious payloads in third-party viewers: is the policy worth anything?

2010-08-22 Thread L. Christopher Bird
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jesse Barnett  wrote:

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>
> Ignoring this and giving the all clear with no other action taken on the
> part of Linden Lab will instead demonstrate that the TPV is a worthless
> scrap of paper.
>
>
Correction, it only exist on paper if printed. The proper phrase is "a
worthless configuration of pixels"

The TPVP makes it clear what the consequences are for breaking the policy.
8c says:

"If a Third-Party Viewer or your use or distribution of it violates this
Policy or any Linden Lab policy, your permission to access Second Life using
the Third-Party Viewer shall terminate automatically. You acknowledge and
agree that we may require you to stop using or distributing a Third-Party
Viewer for accessing Second Life if we determine that there is a violation."

So either the lab will enforce this, or they will say "Well you are so
popular you can screw around all you want".  Is Emerald the viewer "too big
to fail"?

-- ZenMondo
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Re: [opensource-dev] lslwiki

2010-11-20 Thread L. Christopher Bird
LSL Wiki has an interesting history.

Back when LL was ALL about user generated content (and support!) the LSL
wiki was resident run, and hosted on Linden Servers.  Then came the great
break in via the website that stole user passwords and everyone's password
had to be reset and Linden decided that it could not host any user generated
content.  So the LSL wiki went into private hands and its own website and
bounced around for a short while before landing at lslwiki.net.  As far as I
know it is maintained by Catherine Winters aka Catherine Omega.  I sent her
a note via the contact page on her blog. We will see what the story is.  But
it seems to be the red-headed step-child of the LL run LSL Portal.
Personally I like the wiki if for no other reason it does not use mediawiki
and entries do not have to have a capital letter so its llSay and not LlSay.

-- ZenMondo

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM,  wrote:

> Hey, y'all!  Does anybody know what happened to the lslwiki?  (lslwiki.net
> )
>
> It's been down a coupla days.  Do we know who runs the site?  LL support
> says it's not LL.
>
> Thx!!
>
> - AK
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