Overwhelmed newbie
Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly overwhelmed with choices about which I know nothing! I only need the ability to dial-up and network, surf the internet (I have Opera for Linux ready to install), and do some Office type stuff (I have OpenOffice for Linux ready to install, as well) at this point. But, when installing, I am faced with long lists of packages that I must choose whether to install. Can anybody give me a good list of what to choose? I am installing Debian 3.0 r4 i3. Please don't make me go back to Windows :( Thanks in advance. Fritz Brown -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
Well, I don't have any idea what's what when I begin the install. I have 7 CDs (booting from the CD), and get through the partitioning OK, but am utterly without a clue when it starts asking about packages with cryptic names and cryptic descriptions on the second bootup (or is it the third?). > > As long as you've selected the Internet capability you can always add > stuff later using `apt-get` or `aptitude` so you can ignore the rest. > Also, you can always remove stuff at a later date. > -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
I have a copy of Knoppix (don't think it's the latest) that I am poking at to get a feel for Linux. I will have to try and find where to change the windows manager. Fritz Brown - Original Message - From: "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andy Streich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Overwhelmed newbie Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:51:20 -0400 > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 05:16:32PM -0700, Andy Streich wrote: > > On Friday 16 September 2005 12:55 pm, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > > > > Most importantly, this is _debian_-user. If you want to advocate > > > > other distributions willy-nilly, it's not the place. > > > > That kind of isolationism is something I think you will find > > very little > support for in the free software community. I think > > most people will > agree that we want to direct people to what is > > best for them. > > > > I am also an overwhelmed newbie, one who could not have been > > using Debian for the last 9 months without the kind (and > > sometimes terse and abrupt) help from people on this list. It > > takes a remarkable amount of dedication and time to become > > comfortable configuring a desktop Debian system on a machine with > > modest resources where you can't run KDE or GNOME without a > > significant performance problem. The choice of window managers > > for a desktop systems is, to really go out on a limb, fairly > > important. The best advice I've gotten is that I should just > > start installing and trying out all the others. That's not too > > appealing but I accept the reality. > > > > I keep staring at my Ubuntu disks and wondering if I should > > switch horses. Yet I can't begin to estimate the costs involved > > -- in terms of my time and in the quality and maintainability of > > the resulting system. Would a few months of using Ubuntu cause > > me to come running back to Debian? I have no idea. > > > > Any pointers to useful reading material would be appreciated. > > > If you are interested in trying out a multitude of window managers, I > would get a Knoppix DVD (or CD if the DVD will not work for you). That > way you can try out the 5 or six different window managers that are > part of Knoppix without going through the overhead of installing and > uninstalling each individually. If you are accustomed to Windows and > want something similar, then IceWM is probably adequate. If you want > something with maximum flexibility then something like WindowMaker (my > personal favorite) or Fluxbox or Enlightenment would probably work for > you. > > -Roberto > > -- > Roberto C. Sanchez > http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto << 2.dat >> -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: how to use mailing lists
Mailing lists are an inefficient way to get an answer to a single question because you will get loads (I'm on 1,000 since I signed on here) of responses to things that don't even remotely relate to your question. However, it is also a GREAT way to really get into a subject. And, to get a good variety of answers to your problem - as folks correct each other, or fill in gaps. The only "problem" with THIS mail-list is the incredible number of threads going on it at one time. Wow! But, yes, you need to provide as much information as possible, and be as precise as possible when asking your question. Otherwise, everybody gets a lot of white noise (e-mails that must be weeded out) while folks ask you questions to get the information. Fritz Brown > > On Sunday 18 September 2005 09:21 pm, linux wrote: > > is it just me or is this mailing list useless? > > i posted my question ages ago and have recieved nothing but heaps of > > responses to other questions that i don't understand are mailing > > lists meant to work like this? -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: Overwhelmed newbie
OK, everybody, THANKS! I finally got it installed without it asking me for all the extra packages (which is where the overwhelming part came in). Now, the only thing is I don't know how to start the GUI. I took most of the default settings (this is Woody, BTW - may try to get Sarge a little later) in the installer, and it comes up to a command line. Do I need to run apt to find a GUI and install it? Oh yeah, and what is the login for root? I assumed it was "root", but I should abviously read something informative before I go installing new OSs.... Fritz Brown - Original Message ----- From: "Fritz Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Overwhelmed newbie Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:20:21 +0500 > > Help! I have recently begun an attempt to install Debian on a Sony > laptop (Mobile AMD K6-2 550MHz, 64MB RAM), and am thoroughly > overwhelmed with choices about which I know nothing! > > I only need the ability to dial-up and network, surf the internet > (I have Opera for Linux ready to install), and do some Office type > stuff (I have OpenOffice for Linux ready to install, as well) at > this point. But, when installing, I am faced with long lists of > packages that I must choose whether to install. Can anybody give > me a good list of what to choose? I am installing Debian 3.0 r4 i3. > > Please don't make me go back to Windows :( > > Thanks in advance. > Fritz Brown > > > -- > ___ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
> > Please read the Debian Reference. One of the main reasons to use Debian > is to use software packaged from Debian repositories rather than > downloading generic binaries and source. > > Which may explain why I am having trouble understanding how to install Opera. I got a .deb of the latest version, and am trying to follow the instructions on various websites concerning dpkg, and I keep getting messages that I make it appear I am not using the proper attributes And, yes, I am trying to read the Debian reference, etc. It ain't easy, but I will get through it. Fritz Brown -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
> > I see only old versions of firefox and tbird. I want 1.0.6, not 1.0.2. > You probably want to go with 1.0.7, as there are a couple of major security issues fixed. -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
> > You need to run > > sudo dpkg -i [whatever it is].deb > Aaaahh. Will try that. Everything else had me doing a dpkg -i | --install [whatever].deb. And, it really didn't like that "| --install" part. (Running Woody till I get this thing as a going concern. Then I will upgrade.) Fritz -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: Responses to the list (oops)
Using my browser (online e-mail), when I click on "Reply All", I get both the list and the original sender in the "To:" line. Is that unusual, compared to Thunderbird? (I know the same thing happens in Outlook.) I simply delete the extra addressee and send. I'm not flaming, I'm just wanting to know if the issue is different than I percieve. (And, I will want to run Thunderbird on the laptop when I get it finished, and need to know any quirks) Fritz - Original Message - From: "Antony Gelberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Responses to the list (oops) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 17:39:18 +0100 > > Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > [Sorry for replying in that other thread, here is a new one:] > > > > > > Ok, now I'm confused. I've seen so much "respond this way" on the list > > lately. I'm using Tbird, and when I hit "reply" it replies to the > > poster only. When I hit "reply-all" it goes to the poster, the list, > > and maybe a few others that got picked up along the way. I thought this > > was done on purpose so as not to munge email headers with mailman, > > but... now I've seen people say: > > > > 1) CC me because I'm not on the list (ok done - hit reply-all) > > 2) Respond to the list and don't CC me > > > > So in this case, do we hit reply-all, and cut and paste the list email > > as the To: line, removing all others, etc? > > > > It seems to me if this is the behavior desired, then the mail headers > > should be munged in mailman like so many others lists do. > > Please read the archives. This has been discussed many times. > > As far as Thunderbird goes, I believe there is an outstanding bug to > provide reply-to-list functionality. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
> > Yes. So you should be able to login as root (su), and perform > dpkg -i package.deb > > if you don't want to mess with sudo > I was logged into the system as root, and opened an xterm, then tried dpkg. That should work, if I ignore that "--install" stuff? Fritz -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
Re: XP / Samba authentication
It sounds like it doesn't like the domain you are trying to log-in to. It is "switching" to the local machine as the domain (I assume that's where you have the account set-up). The machine is setup for a workgroup, possibly, and may need to be joined to a domain for it to go outside the individual box for some log-in credentials. Fritz - Original Message - From: "Del Boy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-Users" Subject: XP / Samba authentication Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:26:26 +0100 > > I have implemented Samba with XP workstations on a number of situations, > without login problems. > I have now come across a site where I can log into Samba from a win2k > laptop without problem, but their XP Pro workstations do not log into Samba. > These workstations were previously set to NOT ask for a login on boot > up, and were mapping a drive on a win2k server, all automatically. > > I have set up a user on the XP Pro box, and given that user membership > of ALL groups. I also have that user/password set up on debian/samba. > When I try to map a drive to the samba server, windows asks for the > login name/pass, but does not login. > > The machines name is XXX > User name is jimmy > > the windows login rejects the login, and redisplays the login dialog > with the username changed to XXX\jimmy > > Any ideas please ??? > del -- ___ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/
