Re: problem with "at"
I tried the script below. This does show that "nice" works for me. But there is something strange with lavrec. It doesn't matter if I use "nice" or not, it still doesn't record very well. It is probably related to lavrec So I'll take it to the mjpegtools mailing list. Thanks for your help. Dirk On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 03:12:59PM +0200, Jon Haugsand wrote: > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Yes, I also made a bash script. But "nice" didn't seem to help. > > Let work be some program, e.g.: > > #!/bin/sh > for (( i=$1; i; i=i-1)); do > j=$i > done > > And the following be the script nicetest: > > #!/bin/sh > cd /home/nbjhh1/tmp > /usr/bin/time nice -n 0 ./work 30 >> nicetest.out 2>&1 & > /usr/bin/time nice -n 20 ./work 30 >> nicetest.out 2>&1 & > > > Then doing 'at -f ./nicetest 15:10' gives the following in > nicetest.out: > > 13.83user 0.29system 0:16.80elapsed 84%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k > 0inputs+0outputs (354major+40minor)pagefaults 0swaps > 13.87user 0.24system 0:29.60elapsed 47%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k > 0inputs+0outputs (354major+40minor)pagefaults 0swaps > > Nicing and ating is clearly possible. Your problem may be how to set > really nice values maybe. Try to run it as root with negative nice > values. > > -- > Jon Haugsand, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.norges-bank.no > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no NFS connection
Noah L. Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Wolfgang Hlawatsch wrote: > >> >> I installed the NFS in the pentium. But when I try to use the pentium >> (obelix.whlnet) as a server for installing the operating system to the >> 486 (troubadix.whlnet) the troubadix gives me the message: "obelix does >> not appear to be a NFS server". I have been reading the NFS-HOWTO, but I >> did not find a hint to solve this problem. > >On obelix (the server) install the nfs-server package. Then edit >/etc/exports to specify which directories are mountable via NFS. You >probably want to export /cdrom (assuming that's you CD-ROM mount point), >so simply add '/cdrom' to the exports file. > >Then, run /etc/init.d/nfs-server start. You should be able to verify that >it's running by running 'ps ax | grep nfs'. > >On the client machine, run 'mount -t nfs obelix:/cdrom [local_mp]' where >[local_mp] is the local mount point. > >Those steps worked for me; they seem pretty generic, so they'll probably >work for you, too. Good luck. > I have installed debian this way but I had one irritating problem. I didn't dive into it (yet) so maybe this is totally obsolete. When I nfs mount /cdrom to my other pc it works, but I cannot unmount /cdrom on the nfs server side. My system still thinks /cdrom is busy. Of course I unmounted it where I could and when I try fuser -v it says there is a kernel mount. Anyway, this happened with RH6, now for the moment it happens with storm. The only solution I have found so far is to restart my nfsd. BTW, this means that it is not possible to install debian via multi cdrom nfs option, as soon as you need the other cd you are not able to change cd's. (at that moment I hadn't discovered yet the restart of nfsd) Dirk -- Do you do Linux? :) Get your FREE @linuxstart.com email address at: http://www.linuxstart.com
Re: ISDN newbie
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 03:27:08PM -0300, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: > > > Well, my doubts are: is it possible to use this RS232 to connect > to Linux serial port and then to use ISDN4Linux? I don't think so. I had an external dynalink ISDN modem for some time but I just used wvdial for it. > I read the ISDN4Linux faq but as far as I could understand, the > faq deals only with the case where one has and isdn adaptor inside his > PC. That is not my case, yet! When I used this dynalink thing I didn't find out how to use some ISDN utils with it. For the computer it is just another external modem. Now I have an internal modem and that works a bit different. (better) Anyway, AFAIK you can't do ISDN things with this external modem. But I am not an expert on this. I only know that the internal modem is a lot easier to use (after some configuration startup problems) Dirk
voodoo3 3000
Hi all. I searched dejanews and the debian-user archive but couldn't find anything of use. Of course, my voodoo3 3000 doesn't work, that is, 2D works but 3D doesn't. I am running potato, used only debs for glide, 3dfx etc. Furthermore I used apt-get to install everything so I assume everything is installed ok (maybe this is where I go wrong) I compiled the 3dfx module, I can insmod it, lsmod indeed says it is installed. When I try test3Dfx I get a black screen, then a blue with the line in the upperrightcorner "press any key to quit" I thought that instead of of a blackscreen I should see the 3Dfx logo. Next I tried the mesademos, compiled a few, but this looks more than "seconds per frame" instead of "frames per second". So, to me it seems the 3D part isn't working. A real problem to me is that I can't find error messages, it all seems to work ok. I have got different resolutions in my XF86Config, all working with 16bpp. (also started X with "startx -- -bpp 16") Another problem is that I can't reach linux.3dfx.com. I don't know if I can find a solution there but for now I can't check. Dirk
procmail & postfix
Hi All. Can someone here explain if there is something special about postfix and procmail? I am far from an expert of MTA's and don't intend to become one. I only want to sort the mailinglists to which I am subscribed. Just following simple examples doesn't work (right away) so I am curious if I should do (or don't do) something different when using postfix instead of exim or sendmail or so. TIA, Dirk
Re: procmail & postfix
On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 11:27:27PM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > hmm, when i used postfix some time ago, i had to enable procmail in > the main.cf. search in the main.cf for "procmail" or "command" or > something... :) > > moritz I found that one but it doesn't work (yet). Dirk
Re: procmail & postfix
Well, it works. Sometimes it is so hard to RTFM en edit the nescessary files without mistakes. See http://www.faqs.org/faqs/mail/filtering-faq this is what I used to get it working (and the postfix faq) Now it's working it seems so easy, should have done it a long time ago. Dirk
email alias postfix procmail
Hi all. I thought I had some simple problem, but I don't have any clue how to solve it. I made an alias for my own emailadress and this alias I want to use for another user. I have a dial-up machine and I am almost the only user. I am subscribed to several mailing lists and sort them out using procmail. This works fine. But now I want to filter out messages for the alias and send them to the other user. What do I have to do to accomplish this? I thought postfix could do it, but I can't find out how. It is also possible to have a systemwide procmailrc but how does this work? Does this procmailrc have to contain my personal mailfilters, or does it run procmail again for my personal mail if I keep my ~/procmailrc? About this alias, this is not on my local machine but at my ISP. Tia, Dirk
Re: email alias postfix procmail
Problem solved. I hate it when things are sooo easy once you have figured it out. Just to save a few hours for someone else: Use fetchmail. There seem to be some issues about multidrop stuff, read the man page. using fetchmail, your fetchmailrc looks like this: set postmaster "dirk" poll pop.xs4all.nl aka xs4all.nl with proto POP3 user "dirk" there with password "very-secret" to dirk to adb=anna limit 10 warnings 3600 this "to adb=anna" delivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This configuration wasn't hard to find, but, it didn't work without the "aka xs4all.nl" So I spent hours looking for what was wrong and just overlooked this simple aka. I am curious why it is important. If someone could explain? Dirk
Re: SB Live! (XGamer)...
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 04:24:04PM -0700, Rick Macdonald wrote: > On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Matthias Czapla wrote: > > > In Kernel 2.2.17 there is direct Support for SB Live!. Just compile it > > in. > > I keep hearing this and I keep looking and I can't find it in my 2.2.17 > source (from potato debian package). > > _Please_ point me to a file! The 2.2.17 kernel in potato is not the final version. I am still running 2.2.17 from potato and used the emu10k1 to get the SB live! working. Dirk
Re: email alias postfix procmail
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 07:01:08PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote: > On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 05:38:12PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ... > > I am curious why it is important. If someone could explain? > > have a look at the description of the 'dns' option. > It has to do with controlling to whom the mail is addressed too. > The aka option enlarges the list of properly formed addresses by, It was clear to me that aka would enlarge the list, but, now I added xs4all.nl does it look at all subdomains of xs4all? So mailserver.xs4all.nl and whatever.xs4all.nl? Dirk
Re: Q: Sound in/Alsaconf done: Linux 1 Human 0
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 09:47:44PM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote: > Hi, > > Well, I've compiled in the sound module, OSS and SB16 for my SB16PnP card > and ran update modules. Yet nothing is in /etc/modules except my vfat and I > see on my boot sceen no sb being loaded. What's up? Did you do a "make modules-install"? > > Also it is related to the fact that three cd players I have used don't 'see' > my cdrom drive to play, eject, whatever? > Maybe a symlink to the wrong device? So, /dev/cdrom pointing to /dev/hdb whiel your cdrom is actually /dev/hdc? Dirk
Re: recommended TV/radio cards for potato
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 03:31:44PM -0600, Michael Janssen (CS/MATH stud.) wrote: > In robert_wilhelm_land's email, 21-11-2000: > > Would someone kindly share his experiences in using a combo TV/radio > > card on Deb 2.2.17? > > > > Having a look on the internet I found the two cards at reasonable > > prices: > > > > > > 1.) Hauppauge WinTV Primio FM TV/Radio-Karte PCI Mono/Stereo > > I can attest to this card working fine. I have one installed in my system. > Just compile the support in, and install xawtv (and some radio app, I don't > use > mine for radio so I can't tell you about that part) > > This is in the USA, mind you. I can't attest to non-NTSC formats :P > I have got mine for 1, no for 2 years I think. Works great. But I also use it only for TV, not for radio. (this PAL format, Netherlands) Dirk
Re: Hi there
On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 06:25:39PM +0100, Andre en Hennie wrote: > Hi, > We are new at this list and at debian. > We are Andre and Hennie and as a couple very much interested in linux . > > Can anyone help us by giving advises how to download and instal > debian/linux?, The sites are very difficult to us becouse we dont know what > to download and what not.. > Since you are from Holland you can easily buy CD's in Holland. Look at: http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/debian/cd/index.html You can also order a manual to get started Good luck, Dirk
Re: scanner doesn't scan...
On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 12:36:37AM +0100, Peter Wollny wrote: > Hello, > > I've got a Mustek 6000SP scanner which refuses to work with Debian. I tried > to use the same configuration as with SuSE 6.3 but xsane still prompts "no > devices available". > > I made MAKEDEV sg, Hmm, I know I had this problem when I installed my scanner. I can't recall the solution that worked for me, but here is what I have: I have a /etc/sane/mustek.conf which points to /dev/scanner, furthermore, /dev/scanner is a symlink to /dev/sg0. I don't know much about scsi stuff, I only have a scsi card for the scanner and in the past for a DAT tape streamer. Well, this isn't much help, but maybe it is enough. Dirk
Re: scanner doesn't scan...
On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 04:06:31AM -0500, Alec Smith wrote: > I think what Dirk meant was he's got an /etc/sane.d/mustek.conf which has > a line > > /dev/scanner > > as its contents. > > After the mustek.conf file includes that line, /dev/scanner should be > symlinked to /dev/sg0. > Indeed, this is what I meant. Dirk
Re: Laptops for Debian GNU/Linux?
I just got me a Toshiba 3440CT portege. I am struggling to get things working, but that's part of the fun. What I managed so far is to get X working, that is by far the most important. Sound on this thing is not so interesting, unless you hook it up to some decent speakers. Didn't try IrDA yet (compiled the modules, but didn't checked if my palmpilot could communicate) The CD player is separate and it still has to be delivered so I don't know nothing about it yet. Ethernet works right out of the box, no problem at all. I have been looking around for many weeks to choose a nice laptop. I knew what I wanted to spent, and then started looking. So, if you want something portable look for something like a 3440 portege, if you don't want the trouble of all these seperate devices and use it more as desktop, get an all-in-one (like a thinkpad A20, my other possible choice) Another thing I considered important was the screen resolution, I wanted 1024x768 or more. Dell has some inspirons with high res, but they are HEAVY. My portege has 1024x768 and it is light. But it is not as small as vaio SR11K (same res, smaller screen). Oh, modems, this one has a lucent modem, there is only a binary module for 2.2.12 available, I get it inserted in 2.2.17, and wvdial finds it, but since I have ISDN I don't know if it works (yet). If you are not sure, buy a pcmcia modem, they work. Just make a wishlist and start looking around. If you have a specific question maybe I can help, I just ended my quest for the perfect laptop. Dirk
Re: scanner doesn't scan...
On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 10:24:50PM +0100, Peter Wollny wrote: > Ok, I have this line in the /dev/sane.d/mustek.conf file. > But the thing still doesn't work. > I don't understand why everythig seems to recognize the scanner except xsane. > > I am afraid I can't help here. I will give the info I have on my system. Maybe that can help you. In /proc/scsi/scsi it says: Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00 Vendor: SCANNER Model: Rev: 2.02 Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS My /etc/sane/mustek.conf says: option strip-height 1 /dev/scanner option linedistance-fix option lineart-fix scsi MUSTEK * Scanner option linedistance-fix option lineart-fix scsi SCANNER option linedistance-fix option lineart-fix /dev/scanner is a symlink to /dev/sg0, permissions are: crw-rw-rw-1 root root 21, 0 Jul 4 00:25 /dev/sg0 I don't know what else there is to tell. Dirk
SQL question about performance...
Hi! (I've asked this before but my account seemed to be deleted for some reason...) I have the choice between VARCHAR(8) and INT(10) to store unsigned crc32 values in hex or as decimal integer. Which one would result in more speed after putting an INDEX on it? VARCHAR(8) or INT(10)? ...I use mySQL.. Thanks, Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
I have installed proftpd and it worked great for days... Now, without an reason, it gives me: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection when I log in... or sometimes after I logged in and enter "ls" Why? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
I have installed proftpd and it worked great for days... Now, without an reason, it gives me: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection when I log in... or sometimes after I logged in and enter "ls" Why? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
I have installed proftpd and it worked great for days... Now, without an reason, it gives me: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection when I log in... or sometimes after I logged in and enter "ls" Why? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
I have installed proftpd and it worked great for days... Now, without an reason, it gives me: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection when I log in... or sometimes after I logged in and enter "ls" Why? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
I have installed proftpd and it worked great for days... Now, without an reason, it gives me: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection when I log in... or sometimes after I logged in and enter "ls" Why? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Windows is the better OS for running a FTP server
"421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection" proftpd, wu-ftpd, (netkit) ftpd ... they all suck ass! (Yeah, I'm ultimately pissed after reading too many sloppy howto's) Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows is the better OS for running a FTP server
Chris Howie wrote: > Dirk wrote: > >>"421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection" >> >>proftpd, wu-ftpd, (netkit) ftpd ... they all suck ass! >> >>(Yeah, I'm ultimately pissed after reading too many sloppy howto's) >> >> >>Dirk > > > If you want an answer, ask, don't attack. It sounds like trolling. > > Now fuck off. > I get "421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection" when I log into my ftp server. It worked for days, but now it doesn't work anymore. I tried proftpd, wu-ftpd and (netkit) ftpd they're all GREAT!!! I love problems! I love to solve them with the help of wonderful people! Could someone give me a hint how I can get rid of this 421? Many thanks to all of you, loved members of the community! Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows is the better OS for running a FTP server
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:06:21PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > >>On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 20:52:10 +0200, Dirk wrote: >> >>>"421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection" >>> >>>proftpd, wu-ftpd, (netkit) ftpd ... they all suck ass! >>> >>>(Yeah, I'm ultimately pissed after reading too many sloppy howto's) >>> >>> >>>Dirk >> >>If a head and a book collide, and it sounds hollow, this is not >>necessarily the book's fault. - Lichtenberg >> >>-- >>Regards, >> Florian >> >>P.S. You most likely have a configuration problem with a firewall or >> with (x)inetd. Many people on this list know how to fix such >> things, but few are inclined to help rude trolls. > > > Damn, here we were trying to fan the flames on a smoldering banana > peel while this guy is over here with a blowtorch and a can of > gasoline (petrol). > > Dirk, > > are there any logs pertinent to the ftp server? if not, you might want > to turn them on. turn up the logging/verbosity on your ftp > client. plus review EVERYTHING you did to your sytem in the last few > days. And don't give us a bunch of crap about how windows is a better > ftp server. go out and see how many public ftp sites are run on *nix > varieties with no trouble for years on end. > > A > > "Now we got some heat around here." -- me > Ah, you know how it is... You get only attention if you troll... So, this is from the log of proftpd: > Passive data transfer failed, possibly due to network issues > Check your PassivePorts and MasqueradeAddress settings, > and any router, NAT, and firewall rules in the network path. > FTP no transfer timeout, disconnected > FTP session closed. I also tried to run it w/o xinetd but that didn't help. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For the love of...
Why was xorgcfg removed by the last update Am I supposed to install some retarded KDE to configure xorg.conf now? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GTK drag'n'drop broken in testing?
When I use Drag'n'Drop in Mozilla or other GTK apps it seems to hang sometimes. Meaning the pointer doesn't return back into his normal state and everything left to do it ctrl+alt+bs... You can reproduce this problem (and I'm sure it not only on my machine) by selecting some text in Mozilla and try to drag it like a idiot... after a short time the pointer doesn't return to the normal state anymore. I tested it on two machines.. but wanted to report here before I fight my way through the bug report dings bums.. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X key repeat broken in testing?
Another problem I have is with key repeat in X(org) in testing. When I "xset r on" and press a key once it gets sometimes repeated 2, 3 or.. yeah... 100 times... it's all random and I already wiped all X stuff from the installation and reinstalled it. I have this problem since a update several months ago. I don't use the desktop that much but maybe someone else has the same problem? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For the love of...
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:58:45AM -0400, rs wrote: > >> >>Try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". >> > > > the package description (from packages.debian.org) notes the existence > of xorgcfg in the 6.9 series but recommends usage of debconf tools > (dpkg-reconfigure). looks like that recommendation is now a > requirement. > I want it BACK Best X setup tool there is... (IMHO) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For the love of...
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 07:23:46PM +0200, Dirk wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:58:45AM -0400, rs wrote: Try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". the package description (from packages.debian.org) notes the existence of xorgcfg in the 6.9 series but recommends usage of debconf tools (dpkg-reconfigure). looks like that recommendation is now a requirement. I want it BACK Best X setup tool there is... (IMHO) alias xorgcfg=vim should do the trick for you :) of course on my box, I also have alias vim=emacs A DIE!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Locales destroy X key repeat!
when I dpkg-reconfigure locales and set "All locales" the key repeat in X is broken afterwards (random numbers of the same char no matter how long or short i press the key) I installed debian from zero (because I couldn't fix the "could not find 'fixed' font" error that a lot of people, who had to purge and reinstall xorg, had) so I comment everything in /etc/enviroment because I don't like how it messes up the "dir" output in bash (case-insensitive sorting) but the broken keyrepeat is again NOT fixable... This REALLY sucks. And if someone could tell me how to fix this mess it would really be appreciated. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xfonts-dosemu broken
I installed xfonts-dosemu because I want a font in xterm that does NOT suck when I use something that uses curses... But it can't find the font (it did work before). What must I do to restart some-font-cacheing-something... or what? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xfonts-dosemu broken (2)
I installed xfonts-dosemu because I want a font in xterm that does NOT suck when I use something that uses curses... But it can't find the font (it did work before). What must I do to restart some-font-cacheing-something... or what? UPDATE: even dosemu doesn't find the font... this SUCKS! finished the new installation just 30 minutes ago and the system seems to be completely broken again! FUCK! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How does inetd work?
I know inetd forwards a programms (servers) stdout to the client... but where does it forward the requests from a client to? It's not stdin.. It there any simple example server available that was written to work with inetd? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How does inetd work?
I know inetd forwards a programms (servers) stdout to the client... but where does it forward the requests from a client to? It's not stdin.. It there any simple example server available that was written to work with inetd? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How does inetd work?
John L Fjellstad wrote: > Dirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>I know inetd forwards a programms (servers) stdout to the client... but >>where does it forward the requests from a client to? It's not stdin.. >> >> >>It there any simple example server available that was written to work >>with inetd? > > > There is Stephens' UNIX Network Prgramming, vol 1, 2nd edition. > > To summarize: > inetd listen to some given port (given by /etc/inetd.conf). > When a connection happens, inetd forks the server. The child process > closes all the file descriptos except for the new socket connection. It > call dup2() three times, duplicating 0, 1, 2 (stdin, stout, > stderr). Closes the socket. Child exec() the server. The server > therefore uses stdin, stdout, and stderr to communicate with the other > side. > At the parent, the parent (inetd) closes the socket. > > I think proftpd can work with inetd. > that's exactly how i do it... but somehow my server does not get an eof() from stdin :-( he reads the http request from stdin but continues forever trying to get more stuff from it... Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How does inetd work?
John L Fjellstad wrote: > Dirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>I know inetd forwards a programms (servers) stdout to the client... but >>where does it forward the requests from a client to? It's not stdin.. >> >> >>It there any simple example server available that was written to work >>with inetd? > > > There is Stephens' UNIX Network Prgramming, vol 1, 2nd edition. > > To summarize: > inetd listen to some given port (given by /etc/inetd.conf). > When a connection happens, inetd forks the server. The child process > closes all the file descriptos except for the new socket connection. It > call dup2() three times, duplicating 0, 1, 2 (stdin, stout, > stderr). Closes the socket. Child exec() the server. The server > therefore uses stdin, stdout, and stderr to communicate with the other > side. > At the parent, the parent (inetd) closes the socket. > > I think proftpd can work with inetd. > i found the reason for my problem.. i didn't taker keep-alive connections into account why the eof() for stdin didn't happen... Thanks, Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_short_ debian package creation HOWTO?
I need to know HOWTO create debian packages. But all HOWTO's I've found are too long to read. Is there one available with less than 1000 words? Thanks, Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm looking for a specific firewall...
1) It must be written in C 2) It must be able to block connections from a specific IP Thanks, Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proxy examle code needed
Where do I find an example proxy code in C, with less than 100 lines and no dependencies? I mean C. C is nothing different than C. Thank you! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is it possible to install ftp servers w/o 421 Service not available errors?
Seriously, I've tried proftpd, vsftpd and another one I don't remember on different machines (all with debian) and randomly they bitch around giving me 421! Is it possible to run a ftp server with debian? Or will I finally have to switch to FreeBSD like so many did since they've started putting unstable stuff into 2.6.x.y instead of 2.7.x. Sorry for being an ass but I'm lightly pissed about Linux turning into a bitch lately. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HOWTO setup a shoutcast server....
I downladed the shoutcast server from nullsoft and _DID_ RTFM... i changed the password i replaced ./content with the path where my mp3's are... started the server when i then start xmms with the playlist it says "401 Service unavailable"... Any ideas why I fail to setup shoutcast which is so incredibly easy to setup? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
serious Reiser4 fsck problem
Hello, will using fsck.reiser4 --build-fs result in data loss? I mean to fix the partition - NOT to lose the data on it.. The manual page is also not very specific about if data will be lost or not when using this option... Using --fix resulted in a message that I should use --build-fs to remove corruption... Thanks, Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla or firefox package-what is the difference?
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > J F wrote: > >> Mozilla or firefox package-what is the difference? >> >> I guess I'm a little confused about which one is better/newer or >> the one to use? >> > > I favor Seamonkey (Mozilla suite replacement): > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ > over Firefox for one reason: > > When you use a login page to something, and nowadays there are zillions, > in FF you *seem* to have to enter the userid first and FF will supply > the password. In Seamonkey he offers a list of userids: I don't have to > remember my userids, which I do not. > > BTW FF, TB and Seamonkey all got security updates July 27th. > > H > > why not just answer the question he asked and say... firefox = browser only seamonkey (still revered to as mozilla) = browser, mails (thunderbird), html-editor (composer), irc chat in one ...? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which algorythm produces such hashes?
Which algorythm produces such hashes? file_hashes = [ R5QJH6P4LII46TP3QD5FNMZR7GAEI77F; ITWFKQ3AL2XSFG6CUMLBCGTYB5YI5A2G; WDMXZP647MTXGZPLPIXKNP3RKWEE2IF6; H536HKNOD2DWU3H7SVU2VUM35RADXUC2; NQIEOGJWWDMWLRX7VTI7PLHH2O2WN4RM; PACSVI4MHFM3DXEAKGJBZCRAWYS2RS4T; XKJKZKZ25MEZMG37KVXYIN5PLQ6JW2IA; ??? Thank you, Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which algorythm produces such hashes?
Hex Star wrote: > oh can I play too? :P > > how about this one: > > safkaskfs9030rawkldkΩkci9wr9qrw90ras9ofcozx∂ßåß˚∆∂ˆ™ª™dfgfjisdmksdfdz.><>o0320d∆ßß≈Ωµ∑ß˚∂ˆ™´ª™∑å'∂åß«ååß"Ω≈æç≥Ω÷≥≤µçΩçµåª™º≠™–™¢•∑ª´ß˚Ω˜ > > å∆™¨™•£´∂∆˚∂ß∂kdskfzmzzzZKADEI29449020∂˚∂µßµ˚çå߈∂º™ ??? > hehe... Cool! Where do you live? Can I have your address? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Current Mozilla (stable) is broken!
The single-file-download-dialog won't close after the download has been finished. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon
is w/o reinstalling the whole debian distribution and hopeing that it will be installed automatically? Slightly annoyed question about Debian package system X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon is w/o reinstalling the whole debian distribution and hopeing that it will be installed automatically? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Slightly annoyed question about Debian package system
Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon is w/o reinstalling the whole debian distribution and hopeing that it will be installed automatically? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SQL insert dupe prevention problem
I have a SQL problem INSERT INTO table (a, b, c, d, e, f) VALUES ( "72fa545b9cc60c3b0af851c155128a9d", "a", "b", "c", 1158935640, "f" ) IF NOT EXISTS ( SELECT * FROM table WHERE ( table.a = "72fa545b9cc60c3b0af851c155128a9d" ) ) ; what I'm doing wrong? I want to check table.a to prevent inserting dupes... it says... #1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'IF NOT EXISTS (SELECT * FROM rsstool_table WHERE (rsstool_table THANKS!!! Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WARNING: reiser4 (kernel 2.6.16 w/ reiser4 patch) breaks stuff when the hdd is full
When a reiser4 partition is full and some process keeps writing to it you can revive it only with fsck.reiser4 -y --fix --build-fs /dev/... afterwards... I had all kinds of FUBAR behaviour.. clips that contained fragments of pictures and sound of other clips i downloaded and files that did show different sizes with "ls" and "du"... Just wanted to let everyone know who thought reiser4 might yet be worth a try just because it's in ubuntu or so... There were no problems as long as the partition had enough space left... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed,15.Jul.09, 17:55:49, Nate Bargmann wrote: I actually like HAL as it has relieved me of a great deal of tedium. That said, I'm sure there are corner cases where it can be a pain. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide has some explanation of why hal is needed. Until now, HAL wasn't and will never be needed by me and many others. It is enforced per dependency now, but not needed. The absence of stuff like HAL was what made me switch from Windows to Linux in the first place. Why don't people, who like it, use the real Windows instead of turning Linux into it and forcing advanced users down to their level? It does seem as though there is a strong sentiment against HAL from several users. You might contact the Xorg developers and ask nicely for them to remove the dependency. I don't think this is such a good idea. The Debian X Strike Force (Xorg maintainers) already received a lot of heat over this. Providing an alternative would be better. Anyway, see #515214. Regards, Andrei Yes, an alternative would be to remove the dependency and make the HAL package optional again. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Thursday 16 July 2009 12:50:22 Dirk wrote: Why don't people, who like it, use the real Windows instead of turning Linux into it and forcing advanced users down to their level? Dirk What level are you taking about? This will look quiet insulting to many people not only using debian to the best of their knowlegde, but also to Windows users, who dont need to be treated as such, they already suffer of having to use it. Thierry Awww... what about the feelings of people who, since months now, want HAL to be reduced to a option again and who get ignored for no reason? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
You would have much more credibility in this thread if you provided solid technical reasons why HAL is bad rather than stomping your feet while saying "I don't like it!" Please provide a technical reason why HAL is unacceptable. HAL causes enough technical problems and negative side-effects. Just Google for that. But don't shift the focus away to "Is there a technical problem?" while the real problem is the /whole idea/ of HAL. Long time Linux users require choice, transparency, and CONTROL. HAL is the complete opposite and now it is needlessly enforced per dependency in Debian. One "Hardware Abstraction Layer" (the Linux Kernel) should be enough. People who want more than one can install Ubuntu which is a good distribution. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Dirk schreef: You would have much more credibility in this thread if you provided solid technical reasons why HAL is bad rather than stomping your feet while saying "I don't like it!" Please provide a technical reason why HAL is unacceptable. HAL causes enough technical problems and negative side-effects. Just Google for that. But don't shift the focus away to "Is there a technical problem?" while the real problem is the /whole idea/ of HAL. Long time Linux users require choice, transparency, and CONTROL. HAL is the complete opposite and now it is needlessly enforced per dependency in Debian. One "Hardware Abstraction Layer" (the Linux Kernel) should be enough. People who want more than one can install Ubuntu which is a good distribution. I think the point Nate is making is that you can just configure X as not to use HAL (see the link in one of the previous mails). If you also not want hal installed, just make a "nohal" dummy package with a "provides:hal" attribute set. This is very convenient to say, right? Of course, one can make a dummy package and spend his time searching Google and this mailing list for hints to make X11 work again without HAL. But it turns out to be a moving target and a waste of time with every update of the distribution. I've done so. More than once. And that is that. Yet, the X.org dev's (not the debian devs) are moving to using hal for xorg (at least, that's my understanding). So that's why debian is too. Discussing there makes more sense. I did. According to them DeviceKit is going to replace HAL. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DeviceKit Why do they, /themself/, see a need to replace HAL? And will devicekit be more acceptable to people who care more than even I do? Will it be a choice? And, finally, you haven't answered the question on what's wrong with hal. I'm using it without problems, and even still feel in control when needed by altering the .fdi files in /usr/share/hal. So no, I don't see the problem, please explain. Geeez... the problem is that it was promoted to a requirement for running a Debian Desktop while there was no need for it in the first place with alternatives like Ubuntu or Windows(!) at hand. Another problem are the people who think they need to turn Linux into something like a Windows to appeal to people who don't even care/know enough about which OS they use. By this HAL is neglecting the best part of Linux for the sake of "Linux, ready for the desktop?" headlines on Slashdot. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Avi Greenbury wrote: Dirk wrote: Geeez... the problem is that it was promoted to a requirement for running a Debian Desktop while there was no need for it in the first place with alternatives like Ubuntu or Windows(!) at hand. Another problem are the people who think they need to turn Linux into something like a Windows to appeal to people who don't even care/know enough about which OS they use. By this HAL is neglecting the best part of Linux for the sake of "Linux, ready for the desktop?" headlines on Slashdot. What is the 'best part of Linux' that HAL neglects? The complete absence of automation if I choose not to want/need it. The ability to mount devices myself, or not. The ability to do what I want. You keep coming back to this thing of being like Windows. That, in and of itself, is not a bad thing > (there are at least a few things that Windows got right). It is a bad thing if other things are negatively affected by being like Windows. You've not yet explained what these negative effects are. Could you please do so without reference to Windows or Ubuntu? Ok, let us assume I wouldn't be able to remove HAL from a installed Debian without breaking X11 permanently and I have a random problem (pick one from this list: http://www.google.com/search?q=HAL+problem+linux). So I turn here and ask how to solve the problem. The answers will very likely force(!) me(!) to learn to understand how to alter the HAL configuration while it should be possible not to install HAL in the first place if it wasn't made a needlessly requirement(!) for running a Debian desktop. Is that enough of an answer or is there any HAL fanboy left who want's to battle choice? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Jeff Soules wrote: Is that enough of an answer or is there any HAL fanboy left who want's to battle choice? I'm not a HAL fanboy. In fact, I couldn't care less. From the descriptions, it sounds like HAL (like every other piece of software ever written) solves some problems while potentially creating others. Such is life. But your argument against HAL is: Ok, let us assume I wouldn't be able to remove HAL from a installed Debian without breaking X11 permanently and I have a random problem [...snip...] The answers will very likely force(!) me(!) to learn to understand how to alter the HAL configuration Or basically: "What if I have to use HAL, and then what if HAL breaks? I might have to learn how to fix it!" ...so? Technology moves forward. You do have a choice; I mean, if you liked you could even just run XFree86 on a Potato box, or something. But did you start using Debian because you dislike learning new things? It's unpleasant to have your old tools taken away, but surely you have more concrete objections than what you've voiced so far? I'd love to agree with you. I don't have a dog in this fight; I'm ready to be convinced. But I'm afraid that right now you're coming across as yelling at HAL to get off your lawn, and that's probably not the strongest case you could make. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Dirk wrote: What is the 'best part of Linux' that HAL neglects? The complete absence of automation if I choose not to want/need it. The ability to mount devices myself, or not. The ability to do what I want. You've not yet explained what these negative effects are. Could you please do so without reference to Windows or Ubuntu? Ok, let us assume I wouldn't be able to remove HAL from a installed Debian without breaking X11 permanently and I have a random problem (pick one from this list: http://www.google.com/search?q=HAL+problem+linux). So I turn here and ask how to solve the problem. The answers will very likely force(!) me(!) to learn to understand how to alter the HAL configuration while it should be possible not to install HAL in the first place if it wasn't made a needlessly requirement(!) for running a Debian desktop. Is that enough of an answer or is there any HAL fanboy left who want's to battle choice? Dirk I start to wonder how much words and effort the actual package maintainers would use to avoid turning a dependency back into a recommendation when the users already have such a mindset. Poor Linux. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Dirk wrote: Jeff Soules wrote: Is that enough of an answer or is there any HAL fanboy left who want's to battle choice? I'm not a HAL fanboy. In fact, I couldn't care less. From the descriptions, it sounds like HAL (like every other piece of software ever written) solves some problems while potentially creating others. Such is life. But your argument against HAL is: Ok, let us assume I wouldn't be able to remove HAL from a installed Debian without breaking X11 permanently and I have a random problem [...snip...] The answers will very likely force(!) me(!) to learn to understand how to alter the HAL configuration Or basically: "What if I have to use HAL, and then what if HAL breaks? I might have to learn how to fix it!" ...so? Technology moves forward. You do have a choice; I mean, if you liked you could even just run XFree86 on a Potato box, or something. But did you start using Debian because you dislike learning new things? It's unpleasant to have your old tools taken away, but surely you have more concrete objections than what you've voiced so far? I'd love to agree with you. I don't have a dog in this fight; I'm ready to be convinced. But I'm afraid that right now you're coming across as yelling at HAL to get off your lawn, and that's probably not the strongest case you could make. HAL is not "technology moving forward". It is a project dedicated to taking away the right to do what you want. And the persistance of not understanding this that I face here is just sad. You people don't seem to know what door you leave open here and how it could affect the future and usability of Linux in a negative way. Isn't one trainwreck of an operating system enough? Do we really need to turn Linux into another trainwreck at all costs to attract more users from trainwreck #1? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Jochen Schulz wrote: Dirk: Ok, let us assume I wouldn't be able to remove HAL from a installed Debian without breaking X11 permanently and I have a random problem (pick one from this list: http://www.google.com/search?q=HAL+problem+linux). Previously, you said not only HAL itself is the problem, but the *idea* behind it. I have no reason to doubt that HAL isn't necessarily the best implementation of the idea but that doesn't mean the whole idea is bad. So I turn here and ask how to solve the problem. The answers will very likely force(!) me(!) Nobody forces you to do anything. You can compile patch X.org yourself, run oldstable, switch to another distribution or throw your computer out of the window. Or you could just accept HAL and go on with your life. You suggest that everyone compiles X11 him-/herself now? To downgrade or to even switch whole distributions because of a single stubborn package maintainer? How about that package maintainer just turns a dependency back into a recommendation to make /everyone/ happy? (Did I suggest that before?) to learn to understand how to alter the HAL configuration while it should be possible not to install HAL in the first place if it wasn't made a needlessly requirement(!) for running a Debian desktop. Previously, it was required to know how to edit xorg.conf and how to change (e.g.) the keyboard layout for virtual terminals. Now you don't need that anymore, but you are required to configure system wide defaults for both the console and X. I fail to see how the situation has become worse. "Now you don't need that anymore" ...because you're /forced/ to install HAL. Is that enough of an answer or is there any HAL fanboy left who want's to battle choice? Actually, I couldn't care less about HAL. I am just asking myself whether the X.org devs battle choice or whether you are battling progress. J. I don't care of the "progress" that comes with HAL. Because I don't want to be forced to install it. I DON'T WANT TO BE FORCED TO INSTALL HAL because Linux works fine without a 2nd "Hardware Abstraction Layer". Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Jeff Soules wrote: HAL is not "technology moving forward". It is a project dedicated to taking away the right to do what you want. I'm sorry, your argument is "HAL hates freedom?" Seriously? You believe there is an entire team of malicious devs who've devoted their weekends to oppressing your choice of mouse buttons? And the persistance of not understanding this that I face here is just sad. You people don't seem to know what door you leave open here and how it could affect the future and usability of Linux in a negative way. All right, I'll bite. How specifically could it affect the future and usability of Linux in a negative way? What disasters might happen, what door are we leaving open here? What does HAL do that you don't like? It takes away my right to do what I want. And it does so because its installation is enforced per dependency. I can imagine making Linux safer to use for beginners by having a daemon in the background running that overwrites changed config files with default values to prevent clueless people from trashing their system. That daemon could be enforced as a dependency of the Linux Standard Base to ensure less questions like "Help! My Linux doesn't work anymore." in this mailing list. That would be very convenient and to hell with people who don't need it. You can't be too upset with us for not understanding that when you've made very little effort to explain it (beyond "I might have to learn how to fix it"). It is not: "I might have to learn how to fix it" It is: "I can't deinstall it even though it could be possible" Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
steef wrote: Dirk wrote: Jochen Schulz wrote: Dirk: Ok, let us assume I wouldn't be able to remove HAL from a installed Debian without breaking X11 permanently and I have a random problem (pick one from this list: http://www.google.com/search?q=HAL+problem+linux). Previously, you said not only HAL itself is the problem, but the *idea* behind it. I have no reason to doubt that HAL isn't necessarily the best implementation of the idea but that doesn't mean the whole idea is bad. So I turn here and ask how to solve the problem. The answers will very likely force(!) me(!) Nobody forces you to do anything. You can compile patch X.org yourself, run oldstable, switch to another distribution or throw your computer out of the window. Or you could just accept HAL and go on with your life. You suggest that everyone compiles X11 him-/herself now? To downgrade or to even switch whole distributions because of a single stubborn package maintainer? How about that package maintainer just turns a dependency back into a recommendation to make /everyone/ happy? (Did I suggest that before?) to learn to understand how to alter the HAL configuration while it should be possible not to install HAL in the first place if it wasn't made a needlessly requirement(!) for running a Debian desktop. Previously, it was required to know how to edit xorg.conf and how to change (e.g.) the keyboard layout for virtual terminals. Now you don't need that anymore, but you are required to configure system wide defaults for both the console and X. I fail to see how the situation has become worse. "Now you don't need that anymore" ...because you're /forced/ to install HAL. Is that enough of an answer or is there any HAL fanboy left who want's to battle choice? Actually, I couldn't care less about HAL. I am just asking myself whether the X.org devs battle choice or whether you are battling progress. J. I don't care of the "progress" that comes with HAL. Because I don't want to be forced to install it. I DON'T WANT TO BE FORCED TO INSTALL HAL because Linux works fine without a 2nd "Hardware Abstraction Layer". Dirk dirk, i support you on this most principal point: your outcry for the persistence of the freedom of choice under debian (linux). without (of course well-meaning) patronizing developers. i have followed this intriguing thread with some surprise: allmost nobody seems to understand fully the impact of the word 'free' any more. regards, steef steef van duin publicist, research-journalist I guess we will have to stick it out until HAL has been replaced. Hopefully the trend of writing UI's and games (QuakeLive) that run in a browser will continue and some day X11, HAL and all that mindset ballast decending from what they know from other operating systems will become obsolete and in a paradigm shift a(ny) browser, itself, becomes a Desktop using simple, clean interfaces supplied by the 1st Hardware Abstraction Layer (the Kernel). Something like that. Then we won't have to deal with this short-sighted stuborness of cloning "nanny-features" anymore which we thought we left behind when we switched to Linux in the early nineties... Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Celejar wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:58:12 +0200 Dirk wrote: Avi Greenbury wrote: ... What is the 'best part of Linux' that HAL neglects? ... The ability to mount devices myself, or not. This is just wrong; HAL *doesn't automount anything* on its own. It merely passes information to a *volume manager*, which can be configured to do whatever you want. I run HAL, and I've never had devices automounted. When I tried once more, before firing off this message, lo and behold my USB key did indeed automount, but I investigated and realized that it was some component of xfce that was doing it. When I unchecked the box "Settings / Removable Drives and Media / Storage / Mount removable drives when hot-plugged", the old behavior returned. I am happy for you. But how does this prevent me from having to install HAL? The ability to do what I want. Again, *what* exactly do you want to do that HAL is confounding? I don't want to be forced to install and/or care about it. Because I never did need it. I don't need it. I will never need it. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Brian Nelson wrote: Dirk writes: Jochen Schulz wrote: Nobody forces you to do anything. You can compile patch X.org yourself, run oldstable, switch to another distribution or throw your computer out of the window. Or you could just accept HAL and go on with your life. You suggest that everyone compiles X11 him-/herself now? To downgrade or to even switch whole distributions because of a single stubborn package maintainer? X.org is maintained by a team of developers, and its usage of HAL has been discussed on the general developers' mailing list. There is no single maintainer acting alone, and if there were a consensus that X's dependency on HAL is as bad as you say (which there isn't), the technical committee could overrule them anyway. I meant the package maintainer of the debian package and the refusal to reduce HAL to a recommendation instead of making it a requirement. In the X.org mailinglist I was told that the necessity for HAL can be enabled/disabled at compile time. So there should be no problem for the maintainer to do so. I guess the next reply will suggest, again, that everyone who doesn't want HAL should compile X11 himself. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problem with DVD drive mounting
thomas.ferry wrote: Ive been having problems with my DVD/RW mount each time I insert a disc it causes a hard lock of the drive and i gotta reboot the system. Im using Debian sid with the 2.6.30-bigmem kernel. Debian/unstable? Do you mount manually or does HAL mount it? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problem with DVD drive mounting
thomas.ferry wrote: Ive been having problems with my DVD/RW mount each time I insert a disc it causes a hard lock of the drive and i gotta reboot the system. Im using Debian sid with the 2.6.30-bigmem kernel. If HAL does mount it you could try to rename /etc/init.d/hald to /etc/init.d/hald_ and reboot since /etc/init.d/hald stop wont suffice... after you booted X11 might not work anymore because of the missing HAL so you might have to use the cmdline to mount the DVD manually... Let us know if that worked or not... Afterwards you rename /etc/init.d/hald_ back to /etc/init.d/hald and reboot again... Maybe someone has a better idea how to disable hal... but this is how i would do it... Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
sidplay broken since... uh... a long time now... :o
Hello, i wanted to write a proxy filesystem using FUSE and sidplay (sid2wav) to create virtual WAV files beside SID files just for the heck of it... But now I notice that SID playback in Debian/Stable (an older stable and a updated stable) and Debian/Unstable is too fast and the package maintainer obviously doesn't check the result of his work. Anyone knows if there is a fix. The project on Sourceforge seems pretty much dead since 2004. I've heard new features in GCC4 are to blame. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
HOWTO enhance Debian by removing HAL
Hello, i would like to start a thread where everyone posts his solution for removing HAL or says why "nanny-features" like HAL shouldn't be enforced in Linux. Disable HAL in Xorg on Debian / Ubuntu http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/341.html Disable automatic polling of CD/DVD-ROM drives to save power (and time) http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/07/24/tip-disable-automatic-polling-of-cd-roms-to-save-power/ I wonder why people who need "nanny-features" like HAL refuse to just use windows instead. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Losing Debian to the cancer known as HAL
Hello, I have been using Debian/Unstable for more than 7 years. Now I am switching to Gentoo because it really has become more attractive since Debian+HAL really isn't the operating system anymore I want to work with. I was happy with Debian being an alternative with the choice and control for experienced users who wanted things go their way. Ubuntu was the Debian derivate that took the other route of making Linux easier for people who don't need/care about that. Now Debian is trying too hard to get where Ubuntu already is and makes itself redundant and obsolete by doing so. We have now another operating system that tries to emulate Nanny-features we know from Windows and it enforces them by making HAL a dependency of XOrg. There is no way to run Debian/Unstable without HAL anymore. It will be completely broken. Even the alternative configuration scrits have been purged from the package lists. That is the future Debian/Stable has to offer for experienced users. A cancer-like process that sits in the background doing things they don't want. So, If you dislike the service HAL has to offer you as much as I do let me suggest you have a look at Gentoo. Their system seems to be exactly what we want. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml (the root partition should be 4+GB large and the inode size 4096 or smaller) You can boot their CD in VirtualBox and run: net-setup eth0;passwd;/etc/init.d/sshd start and then you can connect from outside with ssh into the Gentoo system and configure eveything by copy&pasting the instructions of that quick install manual. After that you will have a base system pretty much like the Debian base system. Then you can continue installing X11. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml You will notice that installing X11 in Gentoo does not require or depend on HAL. I am not affiliated with Gentoo but I see a raising demand for Linux without HAL http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+remove+HAL (Yes, almost 500.000 results) And since I used Debian until this day I come here to tell you how I solved the HAL problem myself. Take this mail the way you want. For me Debian stopped making sense when they tried to become another Ubuntu. We don't need two Ubuntu's with HAL. One is good enough. Debian should have stayed with the professional users who know best how their Linux should work. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Losing Debian to the cancer known as HAL
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,13.Sep.09, 23:12:00, Dirk wrote: Hello, I have been using Debian/Unstable for more than 7 years. Now I am switching to Gentoo because it really has become more attractive since Debian+HAL really isn't the operating system anymore I want to work with. [snip] If that's not flamebait... Regards, Andrei A flamebait? Why do you think it would provoke an angry response? Because I am right and nothing else than an /angry/ response is left? Whatever. I will not reply to any further posts. If anyone is interested in all the arguments for and against HAL he may refer to the archive. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/07/msg00944.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/08/msg00023.html If one needs help with installing Gentoo he can go to http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml there is a gentoo-users list. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Why do xorg developers hate gamers and use that stupid mouse acceleration to anger them?
I have to run "xset m 0 0" everytime i start a game that uses mouse and in between... Why does that useless/stupid mouse acceleration enable itself again and interfere? It renders having a expensive mouse pretty much worthless. How can i disable it permanently? Right now I have made a cronjob of it that disables X's mouse acceleration every minute... it sucks :C Sometimes it enables itself with different acceleration... it's like bad magic... I recommend removing desktop mouse acceleration from xorg completely... nobody needs it and it makes Linux a lousy operating system for serious gaming.. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Is there no way to RELIABLY disable mouse acceleration in Linux?
Everytime I start a game the mouse input is accelerated or just messed up... I turned "xset m 0 0" into a cronjob now that runs the command 30 times every minute... Is there a way to disable it permanently.. like in... Windows? :D Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Linux desktop without mouse acceleration. Is it possible?
Is it possible to permanently(!) disable mouse acceleration without having a cronjob running "xset m 0 0" every minute? It would really make Linux a better gaming system if this ^%$!@ mouse acceleration would be permanently(!) disabled by default. Thanks, Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Linux desktop without mouse acceleration. Is it possible?
Is it possible to permanently(!) disable mouse acceleration without having a cronjob running "xset m 0 0" every minute? It would really make Linux a better gaming system if this ^%$!@ mouse acceleration would be permanently(!) disabled by default. Thanks, Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Linux desktop without mouse acceleration. Is it possible?
Thierry Chatelet wrote: On 26 February 2009 16:19:36 Dirk wrote: Is it possible to permanently(!) disable mouse acceleration without having a cronjob running "xset m 0 0" every minute? It would really make Linux a better gaming system if this ^%$!@ mouse acceleration would be permanently(!) disabled by default. Thanks, Dirk In KDE, control center->periphericals->mouse->Mouse Navigation it will re-enable itself randomly... i guess i need to compile xorg myself and remove mouse acceleration or something... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Linux desktop without mouse acceleration. Is it possible?
Aneurin Price wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Dirk wrote: Is it possible to permanently(!) disable mouse acceleration without having a cronjob running "xset m 0 0" every minute? It would really make Linux a better gaming system if this ^%$!@ mouse acceleration would be permanently(!) disabled by default. Thanks, Dirk Is it possible to block this person from spamming the list? All of his posts that I've seen have been either straight-up trolls or questions which have been repeatedly reposted, ignoring any replies given. I've been posting before without subscribing because I used to receive the replies even without being subscribed. That doesn't seem to work anymore. So I kept asking. If you have a problem with trolling... well... let me welcome you to the internet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Linux desktop without mouse acceleration. Is it possible?
Dotan Cohen wrote: If you have a problem with trolling... well... let me welcome you to the internet. Well, then please go to the internet. We are not the internet, we are debian-user, a mailing list that just happens to be mirrored to the internet. You _could_ have just introduced him to goatse or something! geeez... the original goatse.cx was started like 10 years ago and suspended by christian-controlfreak-nazis like 5 years ago... i'll rather go to 4chan to ask for linux expertise next time... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?
(see subject) i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just a log file (IMO))... Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
HOWTO run xorg without hal
some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from your installation and adding this - Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices""false" EndSection to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf FUCK YOU! whoever did that... Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
HOWTO run xorg without hal
some true a**hole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from your installation and adding this - Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices""false" EndSection to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf F*CK YOU! whoever did that... Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal
Javier Barroso wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dirk wrote: some true a**hole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from your installation and adding this - Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices""false" EndSection This days I'm reading about hal is not very opportune in some cases [1]. I did a fast google search and google tells about HAL opens tries to open too files [2]. Do you have any interesting (rational) link about these issues ? Regards, [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515214 [2] http://www.linux.com/feature/55903 no... hal turns linux into a sinking ship... i won't wait until hal also opens dialogs telling me "The Error contains an error." or something... i will have stopped using linux before that happens... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: (see subject) i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just a log file (IMO))... Unix without an MTA??? Why not install exim, then look at the filters section of the docs. Exim can do the same kinds of filters as procmail for each user. Don't have an alias for root's mail, put a filter in /root/.forward (or wherever its supposed to go; its been a while), and then have that filter put the mail wherever you want. If you really don't want the mail, the filter can delete it without it being read. Doug. nah.. instead of configuring a package i don't want to install in the first place i just run a cronjob that de-installs the MTA every 30 minutes using dpkg --force-all --purge exim4 ..so i can run updates and the cronjob makes sure it turns out the way i want it.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?
Martin Kraus wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:28:08AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: (see subject) i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just a log file (IMO))... have 40 machines and go throught the log files on every one of them several times every day and manage to get some other work done as well. mk :O you should install an MTA then... but /I/ dont wanna... :/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal
Randy Kramer wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote: some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... Just for clarification, is this in Debian stable or test? Randy Kramer unstable.. if it was already in stable i wouldn't bother complaining here because it would be too late... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?
Michael Pobega wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: (see subject) i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just a log file (IMO))... Dirk Install nullmailer, I'm pretty sure that's what you're looking for. i thought so too.. but it doesn't seem to do what it name implies... it's config kept asking where to redirect the mails too... and "/dev/null" wasn't an option :( it seems i really have to understand MTA's to live without them... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal
Thorny wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:22:59 +0200, Dirk posted: Randy Kramer wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote: some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... Just for clarification, is this in Debian stable or test? Randy Kramer unstable.. if it was already in stable i wouldn't bother complaining here because it would be too late... Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they might not like the way you explain your complaint. well this post was a complaint wrapped in a howto for avoiding hal because i thought that was important... but i posted in debia...@lists.debian.org too.. just for the case the package maintainers don't know what they do when they compile xorg with an installed hal-devel... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal
John Hasler wrote: Thorny writes: Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they might not like the way you explain your complaint. File a bug against xserver-xorg and firmly but _politely_ explain your objection. someone already did... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515214 and the replies, nitpicking and bullshitting already took more place, energy and time than turning hal from a dependency back into a recommended package... and i just found out that ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work anymore without hal... despite the... Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" hal is such a cancerous piece of crap that it would be interesting to know in what companies the hal developers spend their working time... and in what companies the xorg and had debian package maintainers spend their working time... Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal
Jochen Schulz wrote: Dirk: John Hasler wrote: File a bug against xserver-xorg and firmly but _politely_ explain your objection. someone already did... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515214 Well, the first messages in this bug report weren't very polite either... and i just found out that ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work anymore without hal... despite the... Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" If you had spent some time reading TFM instead of insulting developers you would have found out that this change is completely unrelated to hal. You are making yourself ridiculous. hal is such a cancerous piece of crap that it would be interesting to know in what companies the hal developers spend their working time... and in what companies the xorg and had debian package maintainers spend their working time... You are free to help with the enormous task of maintaining X.Org in Debian. Before you can do that, you need to acquire some manners, though. You current attitude will not help your case. J. and the replies, nitpicking and bullshitting already took more place, energy and time than turning hal from a dependency back into a recommended package... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Hello, the X11 in debian/unstable is very broken right now. It requires HAL which i replaced with a dummy package and now the "DontZap" option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is also broken... I can't quit X11 with ctrl+alt+bs anymore... Is there a fix or a different option than "DontZap" for this? Is that HAL dependency supposed to make it into stable? I would like to know so because then I can move our machines to another distro soon enough before the shit hits the fan. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Jochen Schulz wrote: Dirk: the X11 in debian/unstable is very broken right now. It requires HAL which i replaced with a dummy package and now the "DontZap" option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is also broken... I can't quit X11 with ctrl+alt+bs anymore... I have that problem as well and I am using the real HAL package. Is that HAL dependency supposed to make it into stable? I suppose yes, but I don't know. And I think it has nothing to do with the DontZap problem. I would like to know so because then I can move our machines to another distro soon enough before the shit hits the fan. Dude, calm down. It's just a package. :) J. if i remember correctly "DontZap" was supposed to fix ctrl+alt+bs in X11 when no HAL was installed... now it seems i can't even change the X11 resolution anymore without HAL... it's not just a package... it's an indicator for debian losing touch with it's main user base: people who dont want all that stuff Ubuntu offers, especially annoyingly, interfering junk like HAL... i bet it wont even matter anymore if i compile X11 myself, huh? debian should really have waited until HAL was obsoleted by something better like devicekit... Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
How do I get the japanese font back that is broken since the last update?
debian/unstable Thanks for shutting the fuck up if you don't have the solution. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
How do I get the japanese font back that is broken since the last update? (2)
found it.. myself(!).. http://dspnet.fr.eu.org/~lonewolf/LinuxJapan/Howto_English_Japanese.html Thanks for nothing! and no.. i'm still not interested in what you think about using debian/unstable... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do I get the japanese font back that is broken since the last update? (2)
PS: I am curious why you sounds so angry. You will get more help by being more patient and friendly. It's called trolling... and I wasn't asking for help.. I was just lazy... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
X fonts broken, again
Who is responsible for breaking the font settings of my X with every update I make? Now I have, again, wrong fonts that have no antialiasing. How can I get anitaliased fonts back? No packages had been de-installed. Just the config must have been broken. Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HOWTO make apt(itude) ignore dependencies
Hi, I had to compile libSDL myself after adding glFinish() into a certain place to stop the mouse lag I got since I upgraded to a better GFX card. Now... how do I stop apt(itude) from breaking it? It insists to install the, for me, broken SDL to resolv dependencies. How can I force apt(itude) to ignore certain dependencies? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HOWTO make apt(itude) ignore dependencies
Hi, I had to compile libSDL myself after adding glFinish() into a certain place to stop the mouse lag I got since I upgraded to a better GFX card. Now... how do I stop apt(itude) from breaking it? It insists to install the, for me, broken SDL to resolv dependencies. How can I force apt(itude) to ignore certain dependencies? Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE
http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51624c5c.5010...@mailinator.com
vga=ask doesn't work anymore
hello, do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs i found online surely doesn't work... so i reverted to grub-legacy... doesn't anybody check the crap that makes it into debian anymore? because when i look in the documentation of the linux kernel it sure says that vga=ask is still there... but something retarded as a boot loader removes kernel options now? wow... just wow.. i thought the linux desktop would have tiles like windows8 but this is even worse... a bootloader breaks the kernel features... it really shows that linux is used by too many idiots now... i'll start a wiki on this bullshit.. how linux step-by-step becomes a badly re-invented windows.. as a warning for freebsd... i don't care about the user base my OS of choice has... but the linux marketing has started writing the linux code now.. so it is bye bye... Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5199757f.8050...@pwnoogle.com
Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore
On 05/20/13 04:57, staticsafe wrote: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote: hello, do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs i found online surely doesn't work... so i reverted to grub-legacy... doesn't anybody check the crap that makes it into debian anymore? I would love for you to tell that to the face of the Debian developers who work very hard on every release. i know they work hard.. that is probably the reason why such rather subtle regressions escape them.. because when i look in the documentation of the linux kernel it sure says that vga=ask is still there... but something retarded as a boot loader removes kernel options now? Althought the vga=ext option is deprecated with the linux command in Grub2, it is still available with the linux16 command in Grub2 as it is with the linux command in Grub-legacy. If Grub2 displays "vga=ext is deprecated. Use set gfxpayload=text before linux command instead" you don't need to downgrade to grub-legacy. Just replace linux and initrd by linux16 and initrd16 in each menuentry bloc you want to use VGA mode and add vga=ext or vga=F01 near the end of the linux16 line to get 80x50 text consoles instead of framebuffer. You may also replace ext by F00, F01, F02, F03, F05, F06 or F07 to get alternate VGA text resolutions (respectively 80x25, 80x50, 80x43, 80x28, 80x30, 80x34 and 80x60). Use vga=ask to get a chance at boot time to list all available VGA/VESA resolutions and chose one interactively before Grub2 passes control to the kernel. If you edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg instead of /etc/grub.d/10_linux remember your changes will be dropped if update-grub is launched. By the way, vga=normal is equivalent to vga=F00 and vga=ext is equivalent to vga=F01. - http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition#fndef-231bbb76472490d8f289f110d30d2d982e08a663-0 thanks for your effort explaining this... but... i ask myself: /why/ i am supposed to read and memorize all this when even /lilo/ is still working...? lilo, then grub, then grub2... no real change in functionality... a kernel gets booted.. that's it... but all three function differently... it is like someone wants to keep frustrating 08/15-users before linux has even booted... wow... just wow.. i thought the linux desktop would have tiles like windows8 but this is even worse... a bootloader breaks the kernel features... it really shows that linux is used by too many idiots now... Perhaps you are referring to yourself there? no i refer to people to whom it doesn't make a difference if they use windows or linux... people who do not care... but to whom everyone is catering and ruining linux as an operating system.. just look at all the bloat the ubuntu desktop requires to "start a program by clicking on a little icon"... it is a total joke.. i'll start a wiki on this bullshit.. how linux step-by-step becomes a badly re-invented windows.. as a warning for freebsd... i don't care about the user base my OS of choice has... but the linux marketing has started writing the linux code now.. so it is bye bye... Goodbye, and don't let the door hit you on the way out. not so fast.. there is still gentoo... :( Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5199956a.8030...@pwnoogle.com
